[03:45] <TurboTech> Oh my gosh the second time in a week I had to reinstall Ubuntu.  I can not for the life of me to get Wine installed in Ubuntu Studio 20.04
[05:55] <rgh> TurboTech: sudo apt install wine doesn't work ?
[09:14] <wonko[m]> Are you trying to use the distro wine or install the official wine stuff? I would recommend wine-staging. It's always been very stable and you get all sorts of fun new stuff.
[11:09] <TurboTech> In standard Ubuntu 20.04 it worked ok.  I was able to just download it from the store and it worked fine.  I tried to download it in multiple ways for Ubuntu Studio 20.04 after I updated from 18.04 and it does not seem to work.  I need it so I can run my Photographic ROES system with my color lab.  
[11:31] <TurboTech> john@Office:~$  wine -version
[11:31] <TurboTech> 0009:err:module:__wine_process_init L"C:\\windows\\system32\\-version.exe" not found
[11:31] <wonko[m]> two --
[11:31] <wonko[m]> wine-6.14 (Staging)
[11:32] <wonko[m]> bah
[11:32] <wonko[m]> ➜ wine --version
[11:32] <wonko[m]> wine-6.14 (Staging)
[11:32] <TurboTech> Ok let me figure this out. 
[11:35] <TurboTech> I think I tried wine staging and i might have run into some issues with previous packages that I could not remove.  there is always something that stands in my way.  I know just enough to be dangerous so that is why I usaully screw things up leading to me having to do a full new install. 
[11:50] <TurboTech> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:50] <TurboTech>  winehq-staging : Depends: wine-staging (= 6.14~hirsute-1)
[11:50] <TurboTech> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[11:53] <wonko[m]> Did you follow this? https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu
[11:54] <wonko[m]> also, did you put the right repo? hirsute is 21.04
[11:55] <TurboTech> ohn@Office:~$ sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[11:55] <TurboTech> john@Office:~$ wget -nc https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/winehq.key
[11:55] <TurboTech> File ‘winehq.key’ already there; not retrieving.
[11:55] <TurboTech> john@Office:~$ sudo apt-key add winehq.key
[11:55] <TurboTech> OK
[11:55] <TurboTech> I will try the hirsute main
[11:56] <TurboTech> I thought I did that last night and maybe i needed the focal main
[11:56] <wonko[m]> but did you put the focal one or the hirsute one?
[11:56] <wonko[m]> you want the focal one
[11:57] <TurboTech> john@Office:~$ sudo add-apt-repository 'deb https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/ focal main'
[11:57] <TurboTech> Hit:1 https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu hirsute InRelease
[11:57] <TurboTech> Hit:2 http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable InRelease        
[11:57] <TurboTech> Hit:3 https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu focal InRelease      
[11:57] <TurboTech> Hit:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal InRelease           
[11:57] <TurboTech> Hit:5 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-security InRelease
[11:57] <TurboTech> Hit:6 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates InRelease
[11:57] <TurboTech> Hit:7 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-backports InRelease
[11:57] <TurboTech> Reading package lists... Done
[11:57] <TurboTech> for some reason the hirsute is in the repository
[11:58] <TurboTech> I uninstalled wine every way I know how and the hirsute repository is still there. 
[11:59] <TurboTech> Hit:1 http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable InRelease
[11:59] <TurboTech> Hit:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal InRelease                      
[11:59] <TurboTech> Hit:3 https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu hirsute InRelease               
[11:59] <TurboTech> Hit:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates InRelease     
[11:59] <TurboTech> Hit:5 https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu focal InRelease      
[11:59] <TurboTech> Hit:6 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-backports InRelease 
[11:59] <TurboTech> Hit:7 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-security InRelease
[11:59] <TurboTech> Reading package lists... Done
[12:00] <TurboTech> Just went into software updates and unchecked that repository
[12:01] <TurboTech> Focal main is the only one checked now
[12:03] <TurboTech> Ok seems to be working
[12:03] <TurboTech> It is actually installing something now. 
[12:27] <TurboTech> And just like everything else.  It failed. 
[12:27] <TurboTech> This is beyond frustrating.
[12:28] <TurboTech> wine-6.14 (Staging)
[12:28] <TurboTech> That is there. 
[12:53] <TurboTech> Ok it set up my ROES link automatically.  Unfortunately the program gets hung up at creating products as it tries to load.  It worked fine under standard 20.04.  
[12:53] <TurboTech> Oh well. 
[12:54] <wonko[m]> :(
[12:56] <TurboTech> Tried to fix.  When clicked on the icon it says Unrecognized configuration section <user Setings> 
[14:25] <TurboTech> Well I tried to go into my older Ubuntu Studio 18.04 on my other disk and Wine did not work.  I came back to this one (20.04) I tried to install a different program MSI program from a different color lab (Same basic software)  and it works ok.  The ROES software from White House color lab seems to not want to play well.  It gets stuck in the program startup.
[14:27] <TurboTech> If anyone is willing to give it a go here is the link to the ROES program Click on Launch ROES and it will download the MSI file.  If you can get to the log in page then it is successful. https://www.whcc.com/customer-service/ordering
[14:27] <TurboTech> Mine is getting hung up on "Creating Products"
[14:54] <wonko[m]> I don't even get that far
[14:54] <wonko[m]> are there any dependencies that need to be installed in wine like dotnet or something?
[14:55] <wonko[m]> `Exception in thread "main" java.lang.Error: IP Helper Library GetIpAddrTable function failed`
[15:01] <TurboTech> The funny thing is that it worked fine in Standard 20.04
[15:02] <wonko[m]> I'm on 21.04
[15:02] <wonko[m]> as a datapoint
[15:03] <TurboTech> This is from a different color lab.  Same program with their style. 
[15:03] <TurboTech> https://www.roeslaunch.com/ROES/labs/millers/launch.msi
[15:03] <TurboTech> It is a little hokey, but I can work with it.
[15:04] <wonko[m]> same exact error for me
[15:04] <TurboTech> I do not get it.
[15:05] <TurboTech> For me there has always been this with Wine.  
[15:05] <TurboTech> "Like this"
[15:06] <wonko[m]> It's all just Java, I wonder if you can't somehow extract the java bits and just run them natively.
[15:08] <wonko[m]> Although it could be java wrapped in some windows bullshit so that may or may not even work.
[15:09] <TurboTech> Yes
[15:09] <TurboTech> But the problem is the Java program was dropped 1.6
[15:10] <TurboTech> They upgraded to 1.8 and it does not work with it. 
[15:10] <TurboTech> ICEDTEA that is.
[15:10] <wonko[m]> ah, that's a hassle then
[15:12] <TurboTech> I had so many broken packages on my old Ubuntu Studio 18.04 it could never fully update or upgrade, so the MSI file worked until I had to reinstall and all the updates went along with it. 
[15:53] <Eickmeyer> Woah there....
[15:53] <Eickmeyer> !paste | TurboTech
[15:57] <TurboTech> So what part was off topic?
[15:57] <Eickmeyer> TurboTech: No, wasn't off-topic, just pasting into the chat is not OK.
[15:59] <TurboTech> Noted. 
[15:59] <TurboTech> Did not have my Webserver set up yet.  Will not happen again. 
[15:59] <Eickmeyer> TurboTech: NO, you don't need to have a webserver set up. We have paste.ubuntu.com for your convenience.
[16:00] <TurboTech> I understand that too.
[16:00] <Eickmeyer> Matrix also has a built-in mechanism for multi-line text if you wish to use that.
[16:01] <TurboTech> No problem. 
[16:01] <TurboTech> Thank you all for your help and again thank you for working on the Flatpak Display Cal
[16:02] <Eickmeyer> TurboTech: To be fair, I only discovered it. I'm working on the snap, but am running into roadblocks. Unfortunately, ${DAYJOB} has me quite busy.
[16:03] <TurboTech> Ultimately it I think there is some room to grow for Ubuntu Studio  for professional photographers.  There might be a Capture One coming for Debian.  Pay for of course but professional grade Raw converter.  Understand about real job.  I am a Clinical Lab Scientist and I work with Sars CoV-2 Virus 
[16:04] <TurboTech> So these days I am extreamly busy at work.
[16:35] <Eickmeyer> TurboTech: Wow, you have your work cut-out for you. As far as software for Ubuntu Studio, anything that is in the Debian repositories also exists for Ubuntu (and therefore Studio since it is Ubuntu). 
[16:35] <Eickmeyer> TurboTech: However, inclusion in Ubuntu (Studio) requires that the software first be licensed as free and open source.
[16:36] <Eickmeyer> TurboTech: For instance, we can't include software that is packaged to be installed by Debian but not actually in the repositories.
[16:37] <Eickmeyer> TurboTech: Capture One, for instance, would not be allowed.
[16:37] <Eickmeyer> However, a great alternative would be Darktable. I encourage you to try it out.
[16:52] <TurboTech> I have been using Darktable and Raw Therapy and Gimp for the last three years with Ubuntu Studio and that is all I use with the exception of the Stand Alone Neat Image.  My point was that there are many professionals who I know that are waiting for a reason to leave windows and Apple.  The current open source derivatives are not doing it.  My point was that if they do come out with a pro level stand alone version for linux, you m
[16:53] <TurboTech> ht see a good deal of pros leave the dark side and moved toward Linux and hopefully Ubuntu Studio. 
[16:54] <rgh> It requires a dedicated mindset to leave apple/windows behind for linux
[16:55] <rgh> the most important thing to learn is that's absolutely not a replacement for those two OS
[16:56] <rgh> but seeing the sh#t windows and apple is putting their users through, I get that people want an alternative
[16:56] <rgh> but again, usually they want Windows/OSX .. without the crap, and I'm not sure any linux fits that bill
[16:57] <rgh> this is probably more a topic for the 'cafe' 
[17:03] <TurboTech> Well, I have talked with Phase one and they are looking into it since they are getting daily inquiries on the message boards with people saying they run both Linux and windows and only use windows because they have to for photography.   You are right this is more for the cafe. Sorry again.