| jibel | Good morning all | 06:50 |
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| didrocks | good morning | 06:57 |
| jibel | salut didrocks | 06:58 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 06:59 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks & jibel | 06:59 |
| didrocks | salut jibel, oSoMoN | 06:59 |
| duflu | Morning jibel, didrocks, oSoMoN | 07:01 |
| jibel | salut oSoMoN duflu | 07:01 |
| oSoMoN | hey duflu | 07:01 |
| didrocks | hey duflu | 07:03 |
| jpnurmi | good morning | 07:04 |
| ricotz | good morning everyone | 07:09 |
| ricotz | hey jibel didrocks oSoMoN duflu jpnurmi | 07:09 |
| oSoMoN | good morning jpnurmi, ricotz | 07:10 |
| duflu | Morning jpnurmi and ricotz | 07:10 |
| didrocks | hey jpnurmi, ricotz ! | 07:10 |
| duflu | We are down two people today. Still want to do the meeting later? | 07:12 |
| ricotz | oSoMoN, fyi https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1721326 -- seems thunderbird 78 runs fine with glibc 2.34, but firefox-esr 78 doesn't | 07:12 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 1721326 in Core "Port to glibc 2.34 dynamic PTHREAD_STACK_MIN" [S4, Resolved: Fixed] | 07:12 |
| jpnurmi | hi ricotz oSoMoN duflu didrocks | 07:14 |
| duflu | I guess we have other teams attending usually so should stick with it | 07:15 |
| oSoMoN | ricotz, the bug only affects impish and is fixed in 91.1 ESR, so it looks like we're covered? | 07:18 |
| GunnarHj | duflu: I tried the no-overview@fthx extension yesterday, but couldn't make it work (at least not with the default Ubuntu extensions in place). | 07:18 |
| duflu | GunnarHj, luckily it's not important. It looks similar to what I did but in a more hacky/racy way | 07:21 |
| duflu | If more people raise the issue in future (when they're using GNOME 40/41) then we can revisit | 07:22 |
| ricotz | oSoMoN, it affects firefox-esr 78 which ftbfs and has runtime issues, I don't see those runtime problems with thunderbird 78 though, but probably it is affected too | 07:23 |
| GunnarHj | duflu: I think it would be good if you could fix it somehow. It makes little sense to start in the overview at login. | 07:23 |
| ricotz | oSoMoN, e.g. tor-browser (based on 78) is not usable with glibc 2.34 either | 07:24 |
| duflu | GunnarHj, that extension is doing the wrong thing really because gnome-shell forces it to. That's why I proposed fixing gnome-shell. We could patch something like my fix into gnome-shell for Ubuntu but I wasn't going to consider that yet | 07:25 |
| GunnarHj | duflu: +1 for patching :) | 07:26 |
| duflu | Particularly because doing that would create the problem Florian was concerned about -- a new interface that might go away, or worse only exists in Ubuntu | 07:26 |
| duflu | Although we could patch it without the public interface. Just always off | 07:26 |
| duflu | The problem is that's backwards and would be true for people (like me) who disable ubuntu-dock | 07:27 |
| GunnarHj | duflu: Would it be possible with a patch which enables it only when ubuntu-dock is active? | 07:28 |
| duflu | GunnarHj, I was thinking that. But instead of naming the extension, detect any extension like it | 07:31 |
| duflu | Maybe later. Too contentious for a Friday afternoon as I want to approach de-stressing | 07:31 |
| GunnarHj | :) | 07:32 |
| callmepk | good afternoon | 07:32 |
| duflu | Hi callk | 07:33 |
| duflu | Hi callmepk | 07:33 |
| callmepk | hi duflu | 07:33 |
| oSoMoN | ricotz, regarding thunderbird, I'm in the process of packaging 91.0 for impish, I'll test against glibc in impish-proposed | 07:37 |
| jpnurmi | hey callmepk | 07:37 |
| oSoMoN | I suppose tor-browser will rebase on firefox 91 at some point in the near future | 07:38 |
| oSoMoN | hey callmepk | 07:38 |
| ricotz | oSoMoN, ok, I expect upstream to handle this for 78 too though while there are two 78 point releases left, still I wanted you to be aware | 07:42 |
| oSoMoN | ricotz, thanks for the heads up! | 07:42 |
| ricotz | oSoMoN, I am patching and rebuilding firefox-esr 78 which hopefully fixes the problems I am seeing | 07:44 |
| callmepk | hi jpnurmi oSoMoN and also ricotz | 07:55 |
| shailangsa | does anybody know of a good desktop environment closes to windows, GNOME seems off? | 21:47 |
| guiverc | is 5GB the current minimum disk space required for Ubuntu Desktop installs? it seems too small? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements | 23:23 |
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