[07:50] <taeaad> Is it possible to burn a single song of 78 minutes to a CD but to cut it into tracks with no delay between them?
[07:51] <taeaad> Say you cut it into 10 minute tracks. Can you set the CD delay to 0 between songs? And is there a way to cut the song without cutting up the WAV file?
[08:06] <bengan> taeaad: there are some caveats doing this. outlined here: https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/burning_music_files_to_a_cd.html#gapless
[08:06] <bengan> you could check out this to: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Gapless_Audio_CD_Creation_from_MP3s
[08:07] <taeaad> bengan: Thanks! I see that you could do this in Audacity with a .cue file?
[08:09] <bengan> yes. so it seems. long time since I burned an audio cd so I can't confirm that.
[08:10] <taeaad> Thanks.
[08:13] <bengan> you're welcome
[08:19] <Iamthehuman1> Archi Wiki <3 <3
[08:20] <Iamthehuman1> if you need clearheaded explanation of thing X and/on Linux, the Arch wiki is almost always really nice place to look at
[08:20]  * Iamthehuman1 that has installed zero Archs in his life lol
[08:33] <bengan> Iamthehuman1: agreed. before that it was Gentoos and now it's Archs
[08:34] <Iamthehuman1> should man up and learn the right way to install and conf it... not to replace US, but just not to be missing out ... got 24GB of RAM so could just do it in virtualbox, till I "get" it
[08:38] <wonko[m]> I've never used arch either but I'd be lost without that wiki
[08:48] <Iamthehuman1> yeah... wiki is too challenging to install and conf for most people, coz the route is so different, but "everyone" knows that Arch is really fine (if you knew what you were doing when conffing it)
[08:48] <Iamthehuman1> s/wiki/Arch/
[09:15] <wonko[m]> The fact that it takes so much effort to setup is why the wiki is so good.
[09:15] <wonko[m]> Also, currently the best VFIO docs on the internet. :-D
[14:42] <taeaad> Hmm, looks like I can't use cdrdao since the file is sampled at 48000 and not 44100
[14:43] <taeaad> Can I burn with something else? I made the .toc file but I guess I can change it into a .cue file. Is there a burner that I can use for a .wav music file with a .cue track index?
[14:56] <rgh> taeaad: can't you resample first? 
[15:11] <taeaad> rgh: I would avoid that rather.
[15:12] <taeaad> The file is from a very good studio so I don't want to alter it in any way.
[15:12] <taeaad> (professional studio)
[15:13] <taeaad> I just want to send out a CD of my song to a friend, basically. But I don't want to go down the rabbit hole of actually altering the file. The only thing I am trying to do is to specify track so that they don't have to always listen to the full 78 minutes.
[15:14] <taeaad> So, I partitioned it at logical points along the way down in my notes at exact seconds, but I don't want to actually cut up the file and have it have that two second delay. Also like I say I am hesitant to alter something recorded properly that I could damage by resampling or something like that.
[15:15] <taeaad> Also, I don't need to use cdrdao, I just tried it since I prefer a CLI.
[15:15] <taeaad> But any tool in Ubuntu Studio is fine.
[15:54] <OvenWerks> taeaad: if you want the "CD" to play on cd player, the SR has to be 44k1. Otherwise put a file system on the cd and put either wav files or flac on the file system. A TOC would not be needed
[15:56] <OvenWerks> taeaad: the other possibilty is to code it as video and put it on DVD or a DVD style file system as the video standard is 48k
[15:57] <OvenWerks> taeaad: SRC has come a long way since the 90s. This is why many studios work in 48k (which is the digital standard for everything except CD) and SRC after to 44k1
[16:42] <taeaad> OvenWerks: Hmm, OK. But can I still have tracks show up?
[16:42] <taeaad> Without delay between tracks?
[16:43] <OvenWerks> taeaad: in which case are you talking about? Separate files? generally not unless the player prebuffers from file to file.
[16:46] <OvenWerks> In DVD format with a DVD menu? maybe. however, I don't know enough about that format to really comment. I know videos are large files and bookmarks can access a position within that file.
[16:47] <taeaad> OvenWerks: I have one .wav file but I want to have it as separate tracks at exact minute:seconds points that I have noted down.
[16:47] <taeaad> I'd prefer sticking to CD so if I have to convert then so be it. But I thought perhaps I can have the .wav plus a .cue in a folder and just burn it.
[16:48] <OvenWerks> the wav would have to be at 44k1
[16:50] <OvenWerks> There may be utilities that do that all in one operation but I would want to know what SRC code was being used for the conversion and so would do that as two different operations
[16:53] <taeaad> I don't mind doing that.
[16:53] <taeaad> I would be able to use cdrdao if you can suggest how to convert to 44k1?
[16:54] <taeaad> Then I can use the .toc file I have created already and call cdrdao.
[16:55] <OvenWerks> Right. I would probably use zita-resampler
[16:57] <OvenWerks> I am not sure, but I think for cd you want 16bit not 24
[16:59] <OvenWerks> The wav you have may well be float.
[17:05] <taeaad> OvenWerks: What about XfBurn? It shows up when I search for a CD burner.
[17:05] <taeaad> Or should I stick to cdrdao and just try zita-resampler?
[17:05] <OvenWerks> I am not sure if it does DAO
[17:10] <taeaad> DAO?
[17:11] <taeaad> Sorry for the cluelessness.
[17:11] <OvenWerks> Disk at once
[17:11] <OvenWerks> It means writing the whole disk at one go instead of separate writes for each file
[17:12] <OvenWerks> If you want no gaps in audio DAO is the only solution
[17:14] <OvenWerks> If the CD write sw allows to just give one file and one toc (or due) file, it has a good chance of doing the right thing.
[17:14] <OvenWerks> s/due/cue/
[17:15] <taeaad> I think it does DAO: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Gapless_Audio_CD_Creation_from_MP3s
[17:15] <taeaad> The title says MP3 but actually it's for WAV.
[17:16] <OvenWerks> They are using cdrdao
[17:16] <taeaad> Yes.
[17:17] <taeaad> So I think the only thing I am missing is to convert to 44k1 WAV from 48k, right?
[17:17] <OvenWerks> The dao in cdrdao means disk at once
[17:17] <taeaad> Oh, right.
[17:17] <taeaad> So you were referring to XfBurn.
[17:17] <OvenWerks> yes
[17:17] <OvenWerks> yes
[17:18] <taeaad> OK I think I'll be fine from here, I just need to resample and possibly convert to 16bit.
[17:18] <OvenWerks> (both src and about xfburn
[17:21] <taeaad> I could use Audacity for the conversion, right?
[17:27] <OvenWerks> probably, I do not know how it's sample rate conversion compares to others
[17:31] <taeaad> It's running... I feel like the alien calling home in District 9.
[17:31] <taeaad> Thank you very much for the help.
[17:32] <OvenWerks> your welocome
[19:12] <taeaad> OvenWerks: I tested the CD, it plays back exactly as expected.