=== Sven_vB_ is now known as Sven_vB === greknod5 is now known as greknod [00:48] Is it possible with 21.04 to get rid of snaps entirely while still using other applications? For instance, I read that trying to install chromium with apt forces the use of snap [00:50] nightstrike: While one may remove snap - there are those apps that are only (couch - chromium) that are only available in the snap format. // I run slimjet as my alternative to chromium. [00:52] you could also add 3rd party repos [00:52] there are a couple, including some providing chromium builds [00:55] ppa:xtradeb/apps extra deb packaging .. not that i use it. [00:56] yt downloader updated is nice [00:57] I see [00:57] are snaps here to stay for the forseeable future? [00:57] and, can I at least use gnome with snap? [00:57] they certainly give developers a cure to headaches [00:58] some want you to have the latest patched version.. but no. silly users want full control. [00:59] if you know what you are doing, it is fine, but ubuntu wants to guarantee an user experience. [00:59] without* [01:00] I don't really want someone else deciding what's right for me, personally [01:00] i like snapt for the controlled hooks, limitited to home folder, devices and such [01:00] do that with debs.. [01:00] if I wanted someone else to control how I used my computer, I'd use windows 10 [01:00] if they only had implemented snaps less messy towards other residents of linux [01:01] ls /dev/ with a bunch of containers mounted just looks shit [01:01] snaps on corporate level.. [01:01] make another folder for snaps [01:02] I want my devices [01:02] interesting.. the other folders of your linux system look fine? [01:02] yeah, typing "mount" used to be a useful tool. cgroups made it bad. Snaps make it worse. [01:03] go for flatpak then? [01:03] is that an option on ubuntu? [01:03] I am liking snaps they fix a lot of issues with dependencies and seem to just work [01:03] certainly, but not installed standard [01:03] toddc: have you ever had a problem with just "apt install X"? [01:04] chromium is a nice example; it is horrible to maintain.. [01:04] I'm fairly new to this side of the house, but on the RH side, "yum install X" generally always just works, too [01:04] yes [01:04] oerheks: so I can still keep gnome, and use flatpak, and not have to have forced updates on my virtual machine? [01:05] nightstrike: you can choose to purge snapd, and prevent installing packages which will return it. === bigpod0 is now known as bigpod [01:06] nope, 21.04 does not have that kernel update livepatch, so you are free [01:06] *to disable snapd and such [01:06] livepatch is lts only, afaik [01:10] tomreyn: I know how to disable it, but what I don't know, and what I'm probably not communicating clearly, is how to deal with software that I want that is currently available as a snap. For chrome, I'll just switch to firefox, that's easy. For Gnome, oerheks mentioned flatpak, but I haven't found a guide yet on it [01:11] nightstrike: is gnome installed as a snap in your ubuntu release? i kind of doubt that. what are you running? [01:12] as some of us mentioned, other chrome build exist from 3rd party apt repositories, so no need to switch your preferred browser. [01:12] you can introduce flatpak as a third way of managing packages, if you need to [01:13] nightstrike: I use a lot of LXC/LXD containers on my servers. snap are just that easy prebuilt work on any platform easy to move or migrate update [01:13] but those are all seperate topics, for all i can tell [01:14] tomreyn: yes. 21.04 [01:14] "how to deal with software that I want that is currently available as a snap" -> if you don't want that installed as snaps, then install it some other way. [01:14] snap list shows "gnome-3-34-1804 0+git.3556cb3 72 latest/stable/… canonical✓ " [01:14] that's backward compatibility libs [01:14] ah, so I can remove that? [01:15] i think so. you can remove it on 20.04 LTS and on 18.04 LTS [01:15] I also have "gtk-common-themes 0.1-52-gb92ac40 1515 latest/stable/… canonical✓ -" [01:15] everything else in the list is just snap itself [01:16] just give it a try, purge it all, reboot, see whether gnome works. i think you'll be fine. [01:17] ok, ty [01:18] chrome is not a snap, chromium us [01:18] it's a vm, so I can just roll back [01:18] c/is === M4he is now known as mahe [01:40] nightstrike: the other desktop environments have less snaps than gnome; you might want to switch to e.g. kde, mate or xfce if you like ubuntu but don't like snaps [01:40] E.g. on mate I start with `apt purge snapd`, and I only lose the software boutique and mate-welcome [01:40] yeah, that's what I may do. I've install Gnome first but then added plasma and are on plasma mostly. [01:40] While I think that on kubuntu, `snap list` is actually empty after installation [01:40] clean plasma or xfce install maybe. [01:41] gnome installs bunch of snaps [01:45] oerheks: "chrome is not a snap" => afaik ubuntu refused to import the chrome package from debian; has anything changed since I last looked? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium/+bug/1855594 [01:45] Launchpad bug 1855594 in chromium (Ubuntu) "Sync chromium 78.0.3904.108-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist, Won't Fix] [01:46] alzgh: "sysop@2004x-c:~$ snap list >> No snaps are installed yet. Try 'snap install hello-world' " where I am on xfce :D [01:46] alkisg: google chrome is the proprietary software, chromium refers to its open source code [01:47] tomreyn: ah, he meant the proprietary one, got it, ty [01:48] yes, i would think so === blackest_mamba_ is now known as blackest_mamba === seednode8 is now known as seednode [03:47] no, I meant chromium [03:47] but much like that bug report, when packagers force a snap, my response is "use a different package", be it firefox or proprietary google chrome === AndrewYu is now known as liberacom === liberacom is now known as AndrewYu [04:33] back on the topic of snap... just curious... if the idea of a snap is that all the deps are included in its container, doesn't that defeat the purpose of a shared library, and further increase the amount of duplicate libraries you have on disk/ [04:34] yes [04:34] but you do not have to use snaps at all [04:34] right, I just finished removing them entirely [04:35] just curious, is all [04:35] I hope that ubuntu backs off from them [04:37] nightstrike: normally disk space is not a big issue and it solves issues of different versions of dependencies IE PHP each can use its own version [04:42] nightstrike: if you dont like them, sudo apt purge snapd, the users choice [04:46] testing [04:55] hey all [04:57] heyo [04:57] Swift110-mobile: welcome [04:58] thanks toddc [04:58] ah matsaman u here too lol [05:00] lotuspsychje: right, I already finished removing them entirely [05:07] Swift110-mobile: everywhere =P [05:34] nightstrike: canonical has invested a lot of money in developing snaps; I doubt they'll back off soon; I just hope that they won't try to enforce snaps more, to people that prefer plain old .debs [06:34] hello I am looking for help starting off on ubuntu and encrypting a partition with luks. Can I get help here? [06:36] webchat95 yes :) === EriC^^_ is now known as EriC^^ [06:45] is there a gui method other than kde partition manager to create luks encrypted partitions on ubuntu 20.04? [06:45] kde partition manager does not seem to work with this version of ubuntu [06:46] I can use a terminal, but am very cautious against using sgdisk since I've never used it before and do not want to delete other partitions [06:47] webchat95 so you want to format a partition for luks? [06:48] mechanic yes I do. I have an unallocated partition I want to use to install ubuntu 20.04 [06:49] I am dual booting windows and ubuntu. Windows 10 is already on the one partition. Want to install a luks encrypted ubuntu partition next [06:49] sudo cryptsetup luksFormat /dev/sdxY [06:50] if you want to format [06:50] as you would need to === EriC^ is now known as EriC^^ [06:54] rn I'm running ubuntu from a usb and have not allocated partition. For next step then I create 2 partitions for data and swap and encrypt them both with cryptsetup and then use the install ubuntu on the desktop? [06:55] apologies if any of this is unclear [07:05] webchat95 no idea about swap, but yes you can just luksFormat, open them afterwards and then install ubuntu. But wouldnt it be better to just use the ubuntu installer for that? (it can just use the rest of the free space) or you can manually tell it, where to install what with what encryption etc [07:06] can I use ubuntu installer and afterwards use luks for everything? [07:06] I read luks only works before installation [07:08] webchat95 the installer can encrypt the install for you [07:08] oh I must have missed this option the first time! I will do this then. thanks! [07:09] * enyc meows [07:10] webchat95: these days separate swap partition is not normally used (but no reason you can't have) [07:10] zram and a ''swapfile'' seems to be more normal, not sure if ubuntu defaults to enabling the former yet [07:12] I'm not seeing an option in the ubuntu installer to encrypt things with luks [07:14] mechanic I see the install alongside windows and something else options. the something else option does not offer luks as a format [07:14] alongside should give you an option for encryption (probably on the next page?) [07:20] mechanic it does not seem to be offering encryption [07:24] I tried this option for a test install yesterday and it did not seem to offer luks then either [07:28] just checked online. This only works with erase disk [07:36] ugh, okay that's weird :/ === lordrishav is now known as LordRishav [09:11] How do I find out what packages are going to be installed from iso file? [09:12] You could chroot into it and run `dpkg -l` [09:12] But in general, you'd see the iso seeds [09:13] so loop mount. where do I find seed files? [09:14] this is before I've booted into it. I've only downloaded it so far. [09:14] Thank you for the reply, btw. [09:15] Yes, loop mount. The seeds are in launchpad, e.g. https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/seeds/ubuntu-mate.focal/desktop [09:15] You don't need to boot it to loop mount/chroot into it [09:16] Awesome. Thanks [09:43] how to crack gmail password === popey5 is now known as popey === pasiz6 is now known as pasiz [10:07] aaa aaaaaaad [10:08] pan_: can we help you with something? [10:26] hi [11:08] When mark a program on hold using apt to not update that program, does that also imply holding that programs dependencies aswell? [11:11] Using apt-mark that is [11:11] no clue but i'd say it's logical === jelly-home is now known as jelly [11:12] Would think so too [11:50] vlm: that depends on how the dependency is filed. if it says "i depend on the very version n.n.n of library x", then said dependency will remain installed. if it says "i depend on version n.n.n *or newer* of library x", then said dependency may be updated/upgraded. less strictly dependended-on packaged (recommends, suggests) could even be removed (uninstalled). [11:51] hello, does anyone know how the audio source can be specified in mpv? [11:55] GuiToris: i don't knowmyself, but its man page seems to explain. are you into man pages, yet? [11:55] !man | GuiToris [11:55] GuiToris: The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal | Manpages online: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/ [11:56] the latest man page (for "impish" / Ubuntu 21.04) is also available online at http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/impish/en/man1/mpv.1.html [11:57] The "PROTOCOLS" section explains how you can access sources. The general usage of the MPV command (i.e. how to specify the source when running mpv) is given in the "SYNOPSIS" section on the top of the page. [11:58] Hi [11:59] hey zteam [12:04] So I have been having a very weird issue where my luks-encrypted harddrive with EXT4 randomly fails to mount... Today I did decide to investigate things further, so I booted up my system from a live-usb running Ubuntu 21.04, it refuses to mount everytime complaining about bad superblock, booting up Ubuntu 18.04 however the drive mounts correctly everytime, and there is no complains about any bad superblock either [12:08] I have tested this multiple times (around 10 times now),I did try running fsck to correct the filesystem and it confirmed the issues and gave up (then my installed Ubuntu 21.04 refuesed to mount), I also tried running fsck then drive mounted as expected and it found no complains at all, running TestDisk on the drive it found nothing wrong with the partition table... [12:09] I just feel clueless here :-/ [12:11] @TJ- any ideas man? :-) [12:12] TJ-, any ideas ? [12:15] zteam: check the drive health with smartctl [12:16] !smart | zteam [12:16] zteam: smart is Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology, a monitoring system for hard drives. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools [12:17] Hello [12:17] zteam: also post the full command you run and the output of an fsck which fails. [12:18] (to a pastebin) [12:18] hi webchat73 [12:18] I'm installing kubuntu on my pc right now from live usb and i want to ask some questions please [12:19] I'm at (disk setup) process [12:19] There's 4 options : [12:19] zteam: finally, post dumpe2fs -b from the system which reports bad superblock and the system which does not [12:19] Guided - use entire disk [12:19] tomreyn, done (althought by Gnome-disk it doesn't list any complains (long self-test passed too) [12:19] zteam: actually dumpe2fs -h [12:20] Guided - use entire disk and set up lvm [12:20] Guided - use entire fisk and set up encrypted lvm [12:20] And manual [12:21] There's bars showing before and after statues of the partitions after.installing kubuntu [12:21] zteam: feel free to share the smartctl output as well (pastebin). [12:22] webchat73: soooo - what's your question? [12:22] I want to use encryption.. full desk encryption... [12:22] Will my files be lost after ??? [12:22] I have 4 partitions [12:22] But 1 disk [12:23] webchat73: so this is roughly the screen you're looking at, right? https://i.stack.imgur.com/7pdlr.png [12:24] Before bar: shows 4 partitions with different colors [12:24] Yes all (ntfs) instead of unknown [12:24] But different colors instead of only orange [12:25] webchat73: so you've got muliple partitions on this disk you want to install to already. and you'd like to use full disk encryption. i *assume* that full disk encrpytion will destroy all data on the disk (I do not know this for sure). [12:26] generally. when installing any OS on a disk which has existing data on it, you should ensure that that data is fully backed up. [12:26] tomreyn: webchat73 Yes, the FDE options all will as it says "use entire disk" [12:27] The disk is 500 Gb but i don't have means to back it up [12:27] tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mNzHVSpTfH/ [12:27] I thought it could only erase the C: partition [12:27] webchat73: maybe you don't need to backup the entire partition, but just the data that's relevant to you, maybe that's less than 500 GB? [12:28] if you don't have local storage you can create a backup on, maybe you can backup to the cloud? [12:28] Around 300 GB [12:28] Manual won't erase my files? [12:28] (or you could acquire storage for this purpose) [12:29] probably not, but no guaratees are given. see my general statement above. [12:29] webchat73: first things first; is there free space in the existing NTFSs that you can reclaim to make space for Ubuntu ? [12:29] I want to show u [12:30] How upload screenshot [12:30] I'd recommend getting a separate ssd or disk, if you can manage that. [12:30] you can take a screenshot (or digital photo) and upload it to imgur.com [12:30] or partition your existing disk from the start [12:31] webchat73: generally, the method is to use Windows Disk Management to shrink NTFS(s) (and their parent partition(s)) prior to starting the Ubuntu installer. At that point the installer will see free space it can use [12:31] you won't be able to do a full disk encrypted installation that way either, though [12:31] tomreyn, so.... dumpe2fs -h /dev/dm-0 (it's mysterious device) [12:32] zteam: that's probably the encrypted device, isn't it? [12:33] tomreyn, correct :-) [12:33] well that won't have a readable file systemon it [12:33] no surprise there [12:33] zteam: what does "sudo file -s /dev/dm-0" report ? [12:34] (if it's device-mapper it's likely an LVM PV ) [12:34] actually that should be the luks opened device, i am still waking up [12:34] right, with LVM inside [12:35] possibly, yes [12:35] Hi it's me [12:35] https://imgur.com/a/xpteBfC [12:35] This is screenshot [12:36] webchat30: okay, this shows that the full disk would be used for kubuntu if you were to use the "Guided - use entire disk and set up encrypted LVM" option. [12:36] by means of the colored bars on the bottom [12:37] I want kubuntu to be installed on the windows 10 partition only [12:37] And encrypt the rest [12:38] So i don't lose personal files [12:38] webchat30: the kubuntu installer can only encrypt the full disk or nothing at all. [12:38] I can do same encryption manually later? [12:39] not easily [12:39] tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SRVtxXvYyd/ [12:39] it would be a complex, difficult, process, requiring a higher level of experience [12:40] full disk encrpytion is best done during installation [12:40] zteam: that's from which system? [12:41] Ok.. [12:41] So full disk encryption will make my partition into one partition... But will it erase alllllll? [12:42] full disk encryption will encrypt the full disk, i.e. it will erase anything that's on the disk. [12:42] Ok thank you [12:42] Thank God i asked [12:43] see the "After" line on the bottom [12:43] it depict what you would get, Kubuntu spanning the entire disk [12:43] where there were multiple partitions (with data) previously [12:44] But wait a second.. so everytime i want to install a new version or distro for example with FDE.. it will erase my disk? [12:44] in plain terms, it would wipe out all Windows data [12:44] so all of the three installation options that are "Guided" would destroy any data you have [12:45] Guided is dangerous [12:45] I will go with manual [12:46] TJ-, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YWbKSSh9Q5/ [12:46] webchat30: well, "manual" is also dangerous, if by "dangerous" you mean that you could delete the existing data. you *can* also do that with 'manual' [12:46] tomreyn, the one which refueses to mount the the filesystem [12:47] webchat30: and manual will not even offer full disk encryption. [12:47] zteam: so that's the LV (Logical Volume) with the problem file-system? [12:48] Tomreyn: yes but i will ar least selecet where kubuntu will be installed right? All i have to do is choose the right partition to be wiped? Right? [12:49] webchat30: yes, this should usually work, if you do it right. but do make note my earlier general statement: generally. when installing any OS on a disk which has existing data on it, you should ensure that that data is fully backed up. [12:49] webchat30: are you going to delete one of the Windows NTFS partitions and all its data? [12:50] Yes [12:50] The blue partition [12:50] That has windows [12:51] Tomreyn: ok thank you... I think i should do it anyway with very caution :( [12:51] webchat30, you want to dualboot or only re-use existing personal files from the ntfs partition? [12:52] Coconut: use existing personal files from the NTFS part [12:52] TJ-, I'm not very sure these even contains any LVM (I encrypted these drives long time ago with Gnome-disk (not the partition wizzard you use during install) [12:53] Please answer this ( if i choose to move data on external hard disk):. .. ... ... .. so everytime i want to install a new version or distro for example with FDE.. it will erase my disk? [12:53] zteam: let's see the error message you get when trying to mount /dev/dm-0 then. [12:54] zteam: it's LVM - "sudo dmsetup info /dev/dm-0" [12:54] zteam: if not, you've got the ext4 directly inside the LUKS container, which is unusual [12:55] it's obviously a device-mapper node [12:55] webchat30, i would so the partitioning in two phases, first creating ubuntu on / and home on /home, then boot and copying files to the home. After that you could run the intaller again to get rid of the ntfs partition and make your /home partition bigger to the boundaries of the disk.(can be dangerous of you do not backup before!) [12:56] *do [12:56] TJ-, I'm not so sure about that, but here is the output anyway https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6v5nb4n6Xb/ [12:57] webchat30: if you redo the encryption then of course you'll wipe everything. But once encryption is in place it can be re-used as long as the to-be-installed distro installer supports it [12:57] zteam: that shows it is a LUKS v1 container, so no LVM [12:58] TJ-, which means it resides on an LVM (I had a memory about Gnome-disk listing the the LVM but that seems to be wrong) [12:58] Coconut: so first do notmal install then move all data to one partition? [12:59] TJ-, yeah exactly :-) [12:59] Tj-: what if i did ( manual) on the other distro? The encryption from previous installer will still exist? [12:59] zteam: no, no LVM there. The clue is that the LUKS is dm-0 so there's nothing else device-mapper before it. See "lsblk" [13:00] webchat30: depends on how you do it, but in the typical configuration of encryption > LVM then to install another distro only requires space in the LVM VG for additional LVs (Logical Volumes) to install the other distro to [13:01] Okay [13:01] Thnk you so much everyone [13:01] For your help [13:01] And I'm sorry i might be stupid with these questions [13:01] webchat30, first thing is to create an ext4 partition for /, and one ext4 for /home(you would need enough free disk space inside one of the ntfs partitions to get started with that). After that you can copy files and re-use the old ntfs space for you /home parition. [13:02] webchat30: ubuntu installers won't be able to re-use existing encrpyted storage. i assume this is the same for most other linux diustros. [13:02] tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sfyWXwbkhq/ [13:03] webchat30, nothing has to do with stupid with this... it is just not the easiest thing to do. [13:03] webchat30: (you can manually intervene to make it possible to still do so, but this, too, weould require a good general understanding of the different layers and the intallation process in general) [13:04] webchat30, there is nothing stupid about asking questions, without asking questions just harder to learn ;-) [13:04] zteam: what OS/release are you using to try to mount that file-system? [13:04] webchat30: you're welcome, and yes, not stupid at all - this is not easy for anyone the first time around, and the next time, too. [13:06] TJ-, Ubuntu 21.04 (works great to mount in Ubuntu 18.04), and it worked randomly with 21.04, now it doesn't seem Ubuntu 21.04 always fails to mount the drive [13:06] zteam: has the file-system been moved from another device (is it a cloned device) ? [13:07] zteam: can you also show the output of sudo file -s /dev/mapper/luks-c845bd3f-1d60-47d8-b90d-dd1e95ec58d7 [13:08] TJ-, no :-) [13:08] zteam: have you resized the partitions on the device containing that file-system? [13:09] Hiiii I'm so sorry ...... I don't know what to do with this [13:10] I went with manual [13:10] https://imgur.com/a/3mw41zW [13:10] tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/k4nxbxyXwR/ [13:10] hard to say what you are doing [13:10] What do I need to install (or do) to get tab completion with systemctl (in lxc)? [13:11] Aavar: sudo apt install bash-completion [13:11] zteam: and for dm-0 that gives? [13:11] hello again .. https://termbin.com/9bam am I missing anything? it worked fine but there was lots of warnings and a couple of errors [13:12] Ali-Karam: we only support ubuntu on this channel [13:12] try #linux [13:12] okay [13:12] TJ-, nope (not recently anyway, maybe several years ago), I also think it was converted from ext3, but I'm not sure if it was that Disk or not (but none of this is done recently anyway) [13:12] thanks [13:13] tomreyn: THank you, but that did not help unfortunately. Even after a reboot of the container. [13:13] Can i pm someone for help please [13:13] Through installer [13:14] webchat8: please ask your questions here on the channel. there's also #kubuntu which is less busy [13:14] tomreyn, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Z23Rk443ts/ [13:15] zteam: I was considering if the container of the file-system had shrunk and therefore the file-system was having some of its data (most likely at the very end) over-written [13:15] Ok Here it lists all my partitions and I'm not sure what to do : https://imgur.com/a/3mw41zW [13:16] When i click change on something there's so mny formats and options [13:16] tomreyn, TJ- also note that Ubuntu 18.04 seems as happy as ever to mount the volume (I tried this over 10 times, it works as expected every single time) [13:18] zteam: i noticed that running the same file command against ext4 file systems i have on a 18.04 system also reports "(64bit)" (as a file system feature), but yours does not. i'm not sure whether or not that's a red herring, though. [13:19] I never noticed the sda2 partition on windows before.. and it shows 553 mb used.. [13:20] Wht boot loader device should i use? [13:21] zteam: are both architectures 64-bit? [13:22] I also been attempting to dig around with dmesg -wH (it list events as they happens) but the only thing I was able to find was that it complains about the superblock on 21.04 whereas Ubuntu 18.04 seems happy about it, I'm not really able to draw any conclusions from this [13:22] webchat8: /dev/sda should be fine if you have just this one disk installed. [13:23] You only have one device. SDA is fine [13:23] tomreyn, all pastes here is from Ubuntu 21.04 so far. [13:24] But it looks like you need to resize your windows partition. As the installer can't figure out how much is in use you may not be able to resize it [13:24] zteam: so, would you like to compare to the other system then? [13:24] TJ-, yes :-) [13:24] Usually there why Windows did not completely shut down and blocks Access [13:24] So you would need to go back to windows and do a complete shutdown [13:25] Maybe google how to do that. Was something like holding shift while pressing shutdown [13:25] tomreyn, I be happy to, just need to reboot first [13:25] ravage: webchat8 plans to replace the windows OS installation on sda1 [13:25] zteam: my feeling is some file-system flags are affecting this [13:25] Oh ok [13:25] Ok, so if i want to clean the windows 10 and install kubuntu on the same partition.. mark it blue only? And click install now? Also is 74 GB enough for Kubuntu? Should i keep formats as ntfs? [13:25] 74gb will be ok for a normal installation yes [13:26] But you have way too many partitions. I would backup data and just do the installation on a clean drive. But it will work on the 74gb [13:26] Hi all [13:27] TJ-, well, I tried to commeent out the the entries in /etc/fstab for /dev/dm-0 but it didn't do any difference [13:27] I'm so confused and worried T-T [13:27] TJ-, tomreyn BRB, just need to reboot into 18.04 [13:27] webchat8: if you want to destroy the windows installation to make room for Kubuntu, you should first of all click on the /dev/sda1 device, then click on "delete". this should provide "available space" which you can then select and use to "add" partitions for Kubuntu in. [13:27] Nothing to worry about with a backup [13:27] Never do anything without it [13:28] webchat8 has no backup. we previously recommended against continuing until backups are available. [13:29] As usual wise advice here :) [13:30] Indeleted sd1 [13:31] It's now free space in gray [13:31] When i click... It ask logical or primary? [13:31] Beginning or end [13:32] create an ext4 partition and assign / as the mount point. primary partitiion at the beginning [13:32] nad I'm back again [13:32] Use as... And mount point [13:32] that should be all you need to stat the installation [13:32] *start [13:33] Primary - beginning of this space - ext4 journaling file system - / [13:33] Click ok? [13:33] zes [13:33] yes [13:34] TJ-: you had probably asked about resizing due to the mismatch of FS size and physical size at https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mNzHVSpTfH/ ? [13:34] TJ-: (this is output zteam had previously posted) [13:35] I clicked ok... But now the free space gray.. turned bck to (blue windows 10 (ext4) [13:35] thats just the name [13:35] should be fine [13:35] Click install? [13:35] yes [13:36] webchat8, ravage: this is missing /boot [13:36] you dont need /boot with ext4 [13:36] uh no, ignore this [13:36] tomreyn: I never saw that - that's the problem Zteam [13:36] A warning came up [13:37] webchat8, maybe a little more detail? [13:37] No efi system partion was found... This sistem will likely not be able to boot success ly and the installation process may fail [13:37] oh. do you know if you have EFI enabled in windows? [13:38] I don't know what is efi [13:38] anyway we should just create one [13:38] Zteam: so as I surmised; the LUKS container is 1060864 bytes smaller than the ext4 file-system it contains [13:38] Go back? [13:38] yes [13:38] webchat8: are you dual booting? [13:38] you need a EFI partition at the beginning of the drive. 100 megabyte or so is enough [13:38] webchat8 / ravage: there is no EFI system partition on this disk, even though there is a windows installation. we will need to assuem that windows was installed in bios mode, and that the kubuntu installer was boote din uefi mode [13:39] i think the partition type is called EFI? or boot? [13:39] I'm not dual booting.. I'm on live usb and i want to delete windows and install kubuntu [13:39] if he's dual booting and windows is using legacy, it would be better to just reboot the live usb in legacy mode [13:39] i dont remember the installer 100% [13:39] true [13:39] ah ok webchat8, then create an efi partition, ~300mb close to the start of the disk [13:40] ravage: /boot would be something else, it would be called EFI or ESP by the installer, it would be a FAT32 / VFAT file system. [13:40] im not sure if he has enough primary partition sleft [13:40] with all his partitons already setup [13:40] Could it be that 856 partition i. Don't know what it has on? [13:40] ravage: there's no need to make the ubuntu / a primary partiton [13:40] maybe the smartest way is to reboot and start withour EFI [13:41] TJ-, I see [13:41] Wht should i do now [13:41] webchat8: are you making any custom partitioning? if not you could just go back and choose erase disk and install ubuntu [13:41] Zteam: this should be solvable with "resize2fs /dev/dm-0" [13:42] ravage: your suggestion to create an ESP (on a primary partition) in addition to the Ubuntu / partition (which could be an extended partition) should actually work. [13:42] Zteam: that should ensure the file-system is the same size as the container [13:42] good morning folks [13:42] ok lets do that then, webchat8 [13:42] remove the ext4 partition. create a 300M ESP partiton [13:43] Ravage: please i don't want to wipe my data on other partions please note ok [13:43] EriC^, he wants to re-use personal files after installation [13:43] after that create the ext4 partition with mountpoint / again with the rest of the free space [13:43] oh i see coconut [13:43] Click Undo all changes? [13:44] webchat8, if you only delete the one you created it will not delete anything else. but as we all said before: no backup, no mercy [13:44] yes undo should be ok [13:44] TJ-, tomreyn nice catch guys :D [13:45] Ok it's back to the imgur screenshot again [13:45] https://imgur.com/a/3mw41zW [13:45]