| ens | does canonical accept volunteer efforts at creating and maintaining packages for the system the same way debian have a community of volunteers... or is this a different kinda gig? | 00:23 |
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| matsaman | ens: launchpad/ppa? | 00:27 |
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| ens | matsaman: i suppose so but i was thinking more along the same kind of lines as debian where there are a lot of volunteer efforts to help maintain the most recent packages and such. i was kinda wondering how to best get involved with ubuntu as a contributor to an open source project. | 00:35 |
| matsaman | ens: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu | 00:39 |
| Bashing-om | ens: Here - see: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/contribute/ as a place to start :D | 00:39 |
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| kylin | is there anybody | 01:09 |
| kylin | hello ? | 01:09 |
| Simmer | Hey guys, nextcloud prompts me to update but I don't know how. I've run apt update and upgrade but it doesn't catch it. I don't wanna mess anything up and have multiple copies... I downloaded the tar from nextcloud downloads site but what do I do now? | 01:15 |
| tomreyn | Simmer: you installed a software that's not part of ubuntu. you are looking for support with it. the best place to turn to will be the same place you got the software from usually. If you look for "support" on nextcloud.com, you'll find a link to documentation, which also explains how to install updates or upgrades (those are different). | 01:25 |
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| Simmer | Ah, okay. Thank you. | 01:27 |
| tomreyn | Simmer: generally, before you make major changes to a software installation, it's wise to do a backup. this process will also be documented. | 01:27 |
| Simmer | Of the software itself or Ubuntu? | 01:28 |
| tomreyn | of what you are going to change | 01:28 |
| tomreyn | if you won't upgrade ubuntu, then you don't need to make an additional backup of it. but, of course, you should be backing up ubuntu regularly if any data or configurations you have there would take you a lot of time or effort to manually re-create. | 01:29 |
| Simmer | Just the nextcloud client | 01:30 |
| Simmer | I should look into Ubuntu backups for sure, that would be nice. | 01:30 |
| Simmer | I'm still very new and trying to understand why some programs have to be managed various ways :| | 01:31 |
| tomreyn | !backups | 01:31 |
| ubottu | There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup, !borg, and !cloning | 01:31 |
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| Simmer | Ah thank you for that link info | 01:31 |
| tomreyn | those with !exclamationmarks are trigger terms. you can chat to ubottu in a private messgae nad ask it (its a bot) about it | 01:32 |
| Simmer | Awesome, thanks | 01:32 |
| tomreyn | good luck (bbl) | 01:32 |
| rhrf | Good evening all, I am trying to run BIND and have it write a log file. I start BIND with sudo service named start, but when I check the status it says that it has failed. I checked syslog and it says that BIND has failed to start because BIND does not have permission to write the file that I have created for the log. I have created a directory called bind in /var/log and chowned the directory to be owned | 01:37 |
| rhrf | by the bind user and bind group. Further more I have set permissions on the directory and files to 774. Is there something I am missing as to why BIND is not being allowed to write this directory. | 01:37 |
| leftyfb | rhrf: why do you need it writing out it's own log file? Why not just use "journalctl -u bind9" to read logs? | 01:39 |
| oerheks | leftyfb, +1, sudo journalctl -eu named >https://www.linuxbabe.com/ubuntu/set-up-local-dns-resolver-ubuntu-20-04-bind9 | 01:40 |
| rhrf | leftyfb: I am trying to get it to write queries to the server. | 01:41 |
| leftyfb | oerheks: the systemd service is called bind9, not named | 01:41 |
| leftyfb | rhrf: rndc querylog | 01:42 |
| leftyfb | rhrf: sudo rndc querylog | 01:42 |
| leftyfb | rhrf: that will turn on query logging. Hit it again to turn it off | 01:42 |
| leftyfb | rhrf: then use journalctl to read the logs | 01:42 |
| rhrf | I have another server running ubuntu that is setup the same though an older version of ubuntu and it had no issue in writing the log file with named. | 01:43 |
| rhrf | I will look into journalctl. | 01:44 |
| jimmy | Anybody have problem with video distortion on ubuntu live iso's? | 01:46 |
| TJ- | jimmy: You presumably!? | 01:47 |
| jimmy | YES LOL | 01:47 |
| jimmy | Misery loves company. | 01:47 |
| TJ- | jimmy: better to describe the issue (or show a photo) :) | 01:49 |
| carnophage2 | there is a fix | 01:49 |
| carnophage2 | i had similar on a debian distro | 01:50 |
| TJ- | jimmy: which release, which architecture, make/model of PC | 01:50 |
| TJ- | jimmy: and of course which GPU! | 01:50 |
| jimmy | Trying ubuntuce 20.02.2 | 01:52 |
| TJ- | jimmy: there is no 20.02 ... do you mean 20.04 ? | 01:52 |
| jimmy | dell optiplex 740 | 01:52 |
| leftyfb | jimmy: ubuntu CE? | 01:53 |
| jimmy | Yes 20.04.2 | 01:53 |
| TJ- | the versions are YY.MM (year.month of release (April -04 - and Octover - 10 - each year) | 01:53 |
| leftyfb | jimmy: is his what you are running? https://www.ubuntuce.com/ | 01:53 |
| TJ- | jimmy: Optiplex 740 ... that's quite an old system I think, unless Dell are recycling model numbers? | 01:54 |
| oerheks | nvidia quardro nvs210s / nForce 430 | 01:54 |
| jimmy | Right now I'm running mint 20, but trying to load ubuntuce on another pc | 01:54 |
| jimmy | it is an older pc | 01:55 |
| leftyfb | jimmy: please download ubuntu 20.04 from ubuntu.com. Neither Linux Mint nor UbuntuCE are supported here | 01:55 |
| oerheks | such an old card, maybe supported with the 304 driver? | 01:56 |
| leftyfb | jimmy: https://releases.ubuntu.com/20.04.2.0/ubuntu-20.04.2.0-desktop-amd64.iso?_ga=2.48500710.1747931294.1629078942-801535174.1593701673 | 01:56 |
| leftyfb | oerheks: they're not running ubuntu | 01:56 |
| jimmy | AH. O.K. Thanks. Trying to try out ubuntu christian edition. | 01:57 |
| oerheks | i know, so he got his answer; too old for serious 3d/videoacceleration | 01:57 |
| leftyfb | jimmy: that is not supported here | 01:57 |
| TJ- | oerheks: jimmy I found the nouveau driver was fine with those nvidia GPUs | 01:57 |
| oerheks | maybe it catches fire... so old | 01:57 |
| TJ- | Using an dual-GPU NVS-420 with 4 monitors @ 1920x1200 | 01:57 |
| jimmy | no way to change drivers on a iso, is there ? | 01:58 |
| TJ- | jimmy: indeed no | 01:58 |
| TJ- | jimmy: the ISO will be using the nouveau (mainline kernel) driver | 01:59 |
| jimmy | Thank you guys so much. Il'' look for another (newer ) pc | 01:59 |
| jimmy | I had the same problem before with Kubuntu. Guess I need a newer pc. | 02:01 |
| jimmy | Yhank you all so much | 02:01 |
| jimmy | Good night | 02:01 |
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| bdju | getting "Sorry, there is nothing that matches your search." no matter what I type in the ubuntu search thing that the super key open. including with nothing typed. there was a really rough upgrade process getting this from 16.04 to 18.04 and then finally 20.04 including a loss of power early in the process and have to delete lock files and run dpkg configure stuff. anyway, is there a package I should try to | 03:13 |
| bdju | reinstall to possibly fix this? | 03:13 |
| bdju | I don't really use ubuntu on other devices but the fact that I can't seem to make anything useful come up tells me it's probably broken. this is the standard gnome version, btw. | 03:13 |
| mechanic | bdju did you make sure that after the powerloss that everything works as it should? | 03:15 |
| Swift110-mobile | sup fosklksol | 03:15 |
| guiverc | bdju, early in the process implies to me the download; which shouldn't impact anything.. but removal of lock files is a dangerous sign.. | 03:15 |
| bdju | early in the process as in during the 16.04 to 18.04 upgrade, not necessarily early into *that part* of the process | 03:15 |
| Swift110-mobile | sup folks I meant | 03:16 |
| bdju | mechanic: well, it's a device I hadn't used before trying to upgrade it. I don't know how well it worked before. it's a gpd pocket and it's got all sorts of weirdness with rotation and scaling and trouble waking from suspend and graphical glitches, but for all I know they may have happened anyway | 03:16 |
| Swift110-mobile | bdju: what is the specs of that device? | 03:17 |
| bdju | after the power loss I think I had to boot an old kernel to get back into the system and then I just did all I had to to let it try to upgrade stuff again | 03:17 |
| bdju | Swift110-mobile: it's some sort of Intel Atom, so it's x86 at least. 8GB of RAM and maybe around 120GB of flash storage (not full, btw) | 03:17 |
| Swift110-mobile | oh cool | 03:17 |
| mechanic | bdju ugh, hopefully it's even official ubuntu then | 03:17 |
| bdju | good point. I'm not 100% sure if it is. maybe there were weird downstream things on it | 03:18 |
| bdju | it was my brother's and he gave it to me, I saw it was on an ancient version so I just starte upgrading things right away | 03:18 |
| bdju | considered just wiping it to put a fresh install of something on there, but was worried about how strange the device is and possibly making things worse, so went the upgrade route instead | 03:19 |
| bdju | btw, in the "Displays" program, when I set a rotation and scale, is that supposed to persist across reboots? after a reboot the scaling was back to 1.0 | 03:20 |
| bdju | although I think I held in the power button to get it off because it was having trouble waking from suspend last time I used it. I'd see gdm for a few moments and it would flicker and go black again, like it was repeatedly sleeping | 03:21 |
| bdju | I think I disabled suspend now, hopefully | 03:21 |
| bdju | https://www.reddit.com/r/GPDPocket/comments/odul0u/ubuntu_2004_gdm3_greeter_not_rotating/ I also hit this issue where despite fixing rotation after logging in, GDM is sideways when I log out | 03:21 |
| bdju | the thing seems to use a tablet screen (but in landscape) so everything is default sideways and has to be flipped | 03:22 |
| Swift110-mobile | oh I see bdju | 03:22 |
| bdju | I'm gonna go do something else for a bit, but if anyone can answer if stuff changed in Displays is supposed to be persistent or how to make it persistent, feel free to ping me and I'll be back in a while | 03:25 |
| bdju | also how do I tell if I'm using Wayland or not? is it the default? I was thinking I might get less glitches if I used Wayland (it sorta looked like tearing in some instances) | 03:26 |
| mechanic | bdju yes they should be persistent | 03:26 |
| bdju | ah okay good to know. maybe just wasn't because I powered it off with the button | 03:27 |
| mechanic | honestly sounds like you should search around more, if it's really official ubuntu, and probably start fresh | 03:27 |
| bdju | if I'm gonna start fresh I'll probably put Void or something on here (no offense to you guys), but I will consider that route | 03:27 |
| mechanic | bdju eh, just make sure that you can recover | 03:29 |
| Bashing-om | bdju: "how do I tell if I'm using Wayland or not?" One way is in terminal execute: ' echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE ' . | 03:31 |
| bdju | ah, says x11. thanks for the tip. | 03:33 |
| Bashing-om | bdju: :D I may not help much - but there's a little. | 03:37 |
| Swift110-mobile | do u use the gpd for more than gaming? | 03:39 |
| bdju | only been using this for a day or so and wasn't planning to game on it. it's not one of the ones with game controls. just a keyboard and trackpoint clone | 03:40 |
| Swift110-mobile | oh I see | 03:40 |
| john2kbr | s | 03:42 |
| Batzy | im trying to get doom emacs up on ubuntu, and it turns out i installed emacs 26 which is a lower version than what i need. and now i can't uninstall it: https://bpa.st/STUQ | 03:57 |
| Batzy | what do i do | 03:57 |
| Batzy | oh wait i think i did it | 04:01 |
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| xb | i was found in an abyss. | 04:58 |
| xb | .of hope. | 04:58 |
| xb | i owe allegiance | 04:59 |
| xb | to the bards of Avila. | 04:59 |
| xb | like never say 'allegiance' ever again. | 05:02 |
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| tcz | Since everyone has tons of processing power and memory, and devices are loaded only when needed are custom kernels still worth it? | 05:24 |
| matsaman | tcz: it's a fair argument, but there will always be people who want the control | 05:35 |
| matsaman | and some for good reasons, like security | 05:35 |
| xb | emile durkheim | 05:45 |
| matsaman | xb: too right | 05:50 |
| xb | Charles Dunkirk? | 05:50 |
| * matsaman shrugs | 05:51 | |
| xb | then Emile Durkheim it is. | 05:51 |
| xb | Tally ho! | 05:52 |
| Tabmow | Looks like the AU apt mirrors are broken... | 07:00 |
| guiverc | Tabmow, switch to another https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors instead of using aarnet | 07:06 |
| Tabmow | I've switched to just the standard one for now - I normally just use 'au' without selecting a specific mirror | 07:07 |
| guiverc | the AU mirror is mirror.aarnet.edu.au so you were using it even if you didn't realize it | 07:08 |
| guiverc | Tabmow, you can raise a ticket with aarnet & they'll fix I'm sure; I've done it numerous times with iinet; but it'll take time (often gets fixed by updates or package no longer wanted before they act on ticket) | 07:09 |
| Tabmow | Will do | 07:10 |
| guiverc | thanks Tabmow | 07:15 |
| dimuter05 | test | 07:19 |
| dimuter05 | О, работает | 07:19 |
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| Samian | what's the proper words for "ssh'd" in saying "I'm ssh'd into a remote terminal" | 08:41 |
| Samian | argh the entire sentence sounds wrong' | 08:41 |
| geirha | "logged in via ssh"? | 08:42 |
| Samian | yesss | 08:42 |
| Samian | logged into a server | 08:42 |
| Samian | geirha but "logged into" is a broader term | 08:44 |
| geirha | yes hence the "via ssh" (or maybe "with ssh"?) | 08:46 |
| Samian | ok | 08:50 |
| Samian | thanks | 08:50 |
| bionade24 | Hello, does apt have some dependency tree shower like pactree? | 08:50 |
| Kubuntulinux | hello and good morning | 08:56 |
| Kubuntulinux | i can't seem to be able to edit and delete files on the partitions | 08:57 |
| surpriseLeto | Hello, I was using isolinux/txt.cfg to make custom installation until 20.04 but it's not there in 21.04, I tried to look around and could not find any information about this. Is this related to the move to flutter? | 09:05 |
| ahmetlii | Kubuntulinux: do you have GParted installed? (I think there automatically should be on Kubuntu but) | 09:05 |
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| Ali-Karam | Hello, I'm connected using my mobile's hotspot and I can't use "Ubuntu Software" because it says the connection is metered. If I want to change the setting I should click Open Netwrok Settings .. when I click it .. nothing happenes | 09:25 |
| Ali-Karam | any idea how to go to network settings | 09:25 |
| TJ- | Ali-Karam: first, identify the name (ID) of the connection with "nmcli con show --active" than for that ID, do "nmcli con modify XXXX connection.metered no" where XXXX is the connection ID (name) | 09:36 |
| Ali-Karam | thanks .. that worked | 09:37 |
| TJ- | "nmtui" would have been another option, for a dialog-box like environment to the connection editor | 09:38 |
| TJ- | but text mode and thus available from the terminal | 09:38 |
| Ali-Karam | TJ-, tried nmtui and there was no metered option | 09:41 |
| TJ- | hmm! | 09:41 |
| Ali-Karam | so the first answer is wonderful | 09:41 |
| Ali-Karam | thanks TJ- | 09:41 |
| Ali-Karam | can you recommend any system monitoring tools? | 09:42 |
| Ali-Karam | maybe one which shows up on the background like a widget | 09:42 |
| TJ- | Ali-Karam: my eyes :) | 09:43 |
| Ali-Karam | heheh can I borrow your eyes? | 09:43 |
| TJ- | oh, desktop stuff? no, I use network-level monitoring too | 09:43 |
| TJ- | tools | 09:43 |
| Ali-Karam | I have htop | 09:43 |
| TJ- | You can have them - I'm quickly going blind spending too much time staring at monitors | 09:43 |
| arl | hi | 09:55 |
| arl | hello | 09:55 |
| Hekatte | hi | 09:55 |
| arl | How's going on ? | 09:55 |
| lotuspsychje | arl: you joined the ubuntu support channel, how can we help you? | 09:56 |
| aakashi2001 | https://pastebin.com/pbHYMcz5 | 10:20 |
| aakashi2001 | how do i resize the /boot partition | 10:21 |
| alkisg | aakashi2001: sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 | 10:23 |
| busterkvm | hey Bardon | 11:05 |
| busterkvm | hey pong | 11:05 |
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| merpnderp | It's been a really long time since I've ran Ubuntu. But switching back from MacOS. Does Ubuntu have some sort of built in antivirus like Mac and Windows have? | 12:26 |
| Mekaneck | merpnderp: Ubuntu has no build in antivirus and it's not needed on linux | 12:27 |
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| lotuspsychje | merpnderp: apparmor helps security internal inside ubuntu | 12:29 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:30 |
| lotuspsychje | merpnderp: you can also install security minded software from the repos if you like | 12:30 |
| merpnderp | lotuspsychje: The only one I remember is the one to auto-install security updates. What are some others? | 12:31 |
| lotuspsychje | merpnderp: what exactly is your security purpose/concern, maybe volunteers can think along with you | 12:32 |
| merpnderp | lotuspsychje: just curiosity at this point. Wondering if there is something synonymous with with Mac and Windows Defender. | 12:42 |
| BluesKaj | !antivirus | 12:44 |
| ubottu | An "antivirus" is primarily a concept from the Windows ecosystem and usually a program like that is not needed on Linux because the threat model is different. Malware on Linux does exist, however. Google up "rkhunter" and "linux intrusion detection systems". Also look up !clamav | 12:44 |
| KubuntuLinux | hello i have some questions | 12:59 |
| KubuntuLinux | why my linux crashes when i try to change some settings in dolphin? and widgets.. etc | 12:59 |
| KubuntuLinux | and every time i log out or turn off my pc and restart again it asksk for wifi password | 13:00 |
| KubuntuLinux | and i still can't edit files on my old hard disk partitions | 13:00 |
| loganrun | I am notcing a very high memory usage on my computer, but I don't see any processins using it. how can I tell what is going on | 13:25 |
| kongzilla | is it used for buffer/cache? | 13:25 |
| kongzilla | free -h | 13:25 |
| loganrun | Mem: 62Gi 35Gi 10Gi 8.0Mi 16Gi 26Gi | 13:26 |
| loganrun | total used free shared buff/cache available | 13:26 |
| loganrun | looks like 35 used, 16 buffer catch | 13:27 |
| loganrun | out of 64 GB only 26 is available, doesn't make sense | 13:27 |
| tomreyn | loganrun: use top and ps to get the rundown of memory allocation per application | 13:40 |
| tomreyn | KubuntuLinux: those are a couple different issues, let's focus on one of them first - "why my linux crashes when i try to change some settings in dolphin? and widgets.. etc" - which is your "linux"? run this in a terminal / konsole window: lsb_release -ds | 13:41 |
| leftyfb | loganrun: use htop. Look at the memory bar colors and determine you memory usage by going over the last section from https://www.cloudsavvyit.com/7847/color-bars-in-htop-what-do-they-mean/ | 13:42 |
| leftyfb | loganrun: basically, buffered/cached memory can be considered available. Any application that needs memory will use it just fine | 13:42 |
| leftyfb | loganrun: you probably have a lot more memory available than you think, but while that memory is not being used, some applications will sort of use it just in case or just for a bit more performance but will drop it completely when another application actually needs it | 13:43 |
| KubuntuLinux | hello tomreyn good day, it's me from yesterday the webchatuser : Ubuntu 21.04 | 13:44 |
| tomreyn | KubuntuLinux: welcome back. i'm afraid i work like a computer, when i switch off at nights i forget everything. you'll need to give me a reminder if there's something i should generally know about your system. | 13:45 |
| KubuntuLinux | tomreyn :D .. yesterday we wento through long process to solve the LVMs to install kubuntu | 13:46 |
| KubuntuLinux | but today i figured i can't actually edit the other partitions that were sda3 and sda4 | 13:47 |
| tomreyn | KubuntuLinux: so which of the issues would you like to work on first of all now? | 13:48 |
| KubuntuLinux | why my wifi won't remember my password and i have to enter it everytime i log out or restart | 13:48 |
| tomreyn | KubuntuLinux: okay, let's see the ouputs of these, while you're online: | 13:50 |
| tomreyn | nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version_signature,cmdline};echo "Session: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";echo Shell: $SHELL) | 13:50 |
| tomreyn | apt list --installed | grep ',local\]$' | nc termbin.com 9999 | 13:50 |
| tomreyn | sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo grep -hEv '^([ ]*#.*)?$' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list} 2>&1; sudo apt-get -y update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog && rm /tmp/aptlog | 13:50 |
| KubuntuLinux | copy paste the 6 lines? | 13:51 |
| tomreyn | you can copy and paste them to a terminal, they should return http addresses where the output is posted. | 13:51 |
| tomreyn | you should not normally run some commands someone passes you on IRC, but in this case i hope you trust me enough. | 13:52 |
| tomreyn | if you prefer not to, that's also fine | 13:52 |
| tomreyn | we can go through it one by one | 13:52 |
| KubuntuLinux | https://termbin.com/7w0o | 13:53 |
| KubuntuLinux | https://termbin.com/y5op | 13:53 |
| KubuntuLinux | https://termbin.com/7dpx | 13:54 |
| loganrun | leftyfb, ok but I am see 32 Gi marked as used, there is nothing running that should use that much | 13:55 |
| BinarySavior | i'm building GSL for a project that has it as a dependency. the install file says to run "make install" | 13:55 |
| BinarySavior | will i need to run sudo make install? | 13:55 |
| tomreyn | KubuntuLinux: so the first output suggests that apt is 'broken', and you should run sudo apt --fix-broken install | 13:57 |
| tomreyn | KubuntuLinux: but before you do this, you should double-check that those apt sources you have configured provide packages which are compatible to your system | 13:57 |
| KubuntuLinux | Waiting for cache lock: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend. It is held b | 13:58 |
| KubuntuLinux | y process 19940 (apt) | 13:58 |
| tomreyn | wait 5 minutes, then try again | 13:58 |
| KubuntuLinux | ok | 13:59 |
| tomreyn | and close any graphical update managers and software instalelrs | 13:59 |
| tomreyn | if the error remains the same in 5 minutes, just reboot, then try again. | 13:59 |
| KubuntuLinux | can i reboot now? | 14:00 |
| tomreyn | KubuntuLinux: whenever you like ;) | 14:01 |
| KubuntuLinux | ok be right back | 14:03 |
| BinarySavior | does ubuntu come stock with FTDI D2XX drivers? | 14:08 |
| BinarySavior | i cannot open this archive: https://ftdichip.com/drivers/d2xx-drivers/ the linux x64 version (1.4.24) | 14:09 |
| BinarySavior | it's a gz file, but when i try to unzip gzip provides error: file not in gzip format | 14:09 |
| webchat62 | Bro | 14:13 |
| webchat62 | My laptoo stuck on black screen | 14:14 |
| webchat62 | And won't restarr | 14:14 |
| lotuspsychje | !info 7zip | BinarySavior | 14:16 |
| ubottu | BinarySavior: Package 7zip does not exist in hirsute | 14:16 |
| lotuspsychje | !info p7zip | 14:17 |
| ubottu | p7zip (16.02+dfsg-8, hirsute): 7zr file archiver with high compression ratio. In component universe, is optional. Built by p7zip. Size 355 kB / 990 kB | 14:17 |
| tomreyn | BinarySavior: https://ftdichip.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/AN_220_FTDI_Drivers_Installation_Guide_for_Linux-1.pdf | 14:17 |
| tomreyn | BinarySavior: note this is outside of what we normally support here, this driver is not provided by ubuntu | 14:18 |
| tomreyn | webchat62: hi there. which ubuntu release do you have installed on it, do you know? | 14:18 |
| webchat62 | Tomreyn it's me... Kubuntu linux whonhas wifi and partition ptoblems.. i went through restarting but it's still black screen and nothing shows off except cursor | 14:19 |
| webchat62 | I'm on phone | 14:20 |
| webchat62 | Hard power off or this will cause problem? | 14:20 |
| tomreyn | webchat62: oh, ok. i assume you tried ctrl-alt-del already? | 14:21 |
| tomreyn | webchat62: press also escpae to see where it's stuck | 14:21 |
| webchat62 | Nthing happens | 14:21 |
| tomreyn | webchat62: if nothing helps, you can try this: | 14:22 |
| tomreyn | !sysrq | 14:22 |
| ubottu | In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing slowly, in succession, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key | 14:22 |
| webchat62 | Ok a task manager came up | 14:22 |
| tomreyn | webchat62: i see you have installed newer versions of some software than Kubuntu 21.04 provides. That includes mesa (which provides accelerated graphics) and libreoffice. do you know what may have happened there? | 14:24 |
| webchat62 | I pressed alt + prtscteen then SUB everything completely black now and no cursor | 14:25 |
| webchat62 | I just did an update | 14:25 |
| tomreyn | so it will be rebooting, i guess | 14:25 |
| webchat62 | From the centre | 14:25 |
| tomreyn | ok, that's good. actually those packages are not newer, they are older than what hirsute provides. maybe you just need to keep updating. | 14:26 |
| webchat62 | Ok | 14:26 |
| webchat62 | Still blackness.... | 14:27 |
| tomreyn | strange. i guess you can just power cycle then | 14:27 |
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| webchat62 | I did | 14:28 |
| webchat62 | Starting now | 14:28 |
| tomreyn | the archive mirror you're using, eg.archive.ubuntu.com, does not seem to be an official mirror server https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors | 14:30 |
| webchat62 | System plo y prevents modification of network settings for all users | 14:30 |
| webchat62 | Policy* | 14:30 |
| loganrun | what are tracker-miner-f and tracker-store processes | 14:30 |
| webchat62 | And it asks for root password | 14:31 |
| webchat62 | I enteredy username password | 14:31 |
| webchat62 | But it says it's incorrect | 14:31 |
| tomreyn | webchat62: there should be no root password on your computer, just your normal users' | 14:32 |
| webchat62 | And still my wifi not connected | 14:32 |
| webchat62 | It asks for root password | 14:32 |
| tomreyn | can you share a screenshot? | 14:32 |
| tomreyn | loganrun: those are part of the "tracker" and "tracker-miner-fs" packages, i think | 14:34 |
| SnoopJ | loganrun, those are indexing files on your system (and probably other stuff) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Tracker | 14:34 |
| tomreyn | apt show <packagename> will provide more info | 14:34 |
| loganrun | ok thanks | 14:35 |
| SnoopJ | see also `apropos tracker` | 14:35 |
| webchat62 | https://imgur.com/a/eVDON7X | 14:36 |
| tomreyn | webchat62: thanks. i was hoping for an image of the full prompt. have you set a password for root, though? | 14:37 |
| webchat62 | I tried my pass .. wrong... I tried empty also wron | 14:37 |
| webchat62 | I didn't | 14:37 |
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| webchat62 | Intried running sudo | 14:38 |
| webchat62 | But it says i cant run sudo on my device | 14:38 |
| webchat62 | @hostname | 14:38 |
| tomreyn | webchat62: do you have another means to bring this system online? | 14:38 |
| webchat62 | Ok wait | 14:39 |
| webchat62 | Actually the window closed... | 14:39 |
| webchat62 | I can reenter password to wifi | 14:39 |
| webchat62 | online | 14:40 |
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| Guest4887 | tomreyn ok | 14:41 |
| ioria | webchat62, might be a keyring or autologin thing : check in the Network-manager applet and enable : Available to all users and Automatically connect to this network when it is available; then logout / login | 14:43 |
| Guest4887 | at users settings.. i found my user account type is (standarad) i don't this this is correct right? | 14:43 |
| Guest4887 | ioria: connect autumatically is enables & all users may connect to this network is checked & priority is set to 1 | 14:44 |
| tomreyn | i guess it should be administrator rather than standard if it's the only non-root user account | 14:45 |
| tomreyn | but i'm guessing based on how this is displayed on gnome | 14:45 |
| Guest4887 | this is my only user i created | 14:45 |
| tomreyn | did you create it during installaiton or seperately? | 14:45 |
| Guest4887 | yes in installation yesterday | 14:46 |
| tomreyn | can you open a terminal and type "groups" | 14:46 |
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| tomreyn | does it say "sudo" there? | 14:46 |
| Guest4887 | no sudo | 14:46 |
| Guest4887 | adm cdrom dip plugdev lpadmin lxd sambashare | 14:46 |
| tomreyn | can you post the one line of output? | 14:46 |
| tomreyn | ok | 14:46 |
| tomreyn | but can you run commands with sudo? sudo whoami | 14:47 |
| roxlu | hi, I'm working on a Ubuntu 18 and I want to update the version of a package, what is the best solution? (apt-get install meson, gave me an slightly outdated version) | 14:48 |
| tomreyn | i'll quickly run kubuntu 21.04 locally here, maybe something has changed | 14:48 |
| Guest4887 | it asks for my password when i typed this command | 14:48 |
| Guest4887 | and after i entered it | 14:48 |
| Guest4887 | it says : is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. | 14:48 |
| lotuspsychje | !uptodate | roxlu | 14:48 |
| ubottu | roxlu: To ensure you have all the latest known patches and security updates for your ubuntu installation, please update with the following command: `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade`. See also !upgrades and !security; you may also need to run `apt full-upgrade`. | 14:48 |
| ioria | Guest4887, how comes you're not in the sudo group ? | 14:49 |
| tomreyn | Guest4887: on my kubuntu installation, the default user is part of the sudo group - something must have gone wrong on yours. | 14:49 |
| roxlu | lotuspsychje: thanks, what if I'm running this in a docker? | 14:49 |
| Guest4887 | i don't know.... | 14:49 |
| Guest4887 | but yesterday i could do sudo commands | 14:49 |
| Guest4887 | also this morning | 14:49 |
| Guest4887 | when i update | 14:49 |
| ioria | Guest4887, grep sudo /etc/group | 14:50 |
| Guest4887 | sudo:x:27: | 14:50 |
| mike18 | hi - any idea why i get this error? https://ideone.com/Z9ufEd | 14:51 |
| ioria | Guest4887, you need to boot Recovery or single and add yourself to sudo | 14:51 |
| tomreyn | Guest4887: what does id -u report? | 14:51 |
| Guest4887 | 1000 | 14:51 |
| tomreyn | hmm, yes, what ioria sas | 14:51 |
| tomreyn | *says | 14:51 |
| Guest4887 | i need to install the system again? | 14:52 |
| tomreyn | Guest4887: do you know how to bring up the grub menu? or does it come up automatically on boot | 14:52 |
| tomreyn | no, you don't need to reinstall | 14:52 |
| Guest4887 | it come on boot | 14:52 |
| Guest4887 | for 5 seoncds | 14:52 |
| Guest4887 | TJ- did so | 14:52 |
| Guest4887 | in case something went wrong | 14:52 |
| mike18 | hi any idea what that error means? https://ideone.com/Z9ufEd | 14:52 |
| mike18 | hm | 14:52 |
| tomreyn | Guest4887: okay, then reboot and select advanced -> (newest kernel) -> "recovery" | 14:53 |
| Guest4887 | brb | 14:53 |
| tomreyn | !patience | mike18 | 14:53 |
| ubottu | mike18: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/ | 14:53 |
| mike18 | ok | 14:53 |
| tomreyn | mike18: this channel is for ubuntu support, thus the name. you seem to be seeking support with debian or another debian dericvative | 14:54 |
| mike18 | ok | 14:54 |
| webchat62 | Advanced options for ubuntu? | 14:54 |
| webchat62 | tomreyn | 14:54 |
| tomreyn | webchat62: yes | 14:54 |
| webchat62 | Ok | 14:54 |
| webchat62 | 4 options | 14:54 |
| TJ- | I don't believe he /already/ broke it :O | 14:55 |
| tomreyn | webchat62: then the "(Recovery)" option for the newest kernel | 14:55 |
| webchat62 | TJ- lol | 14:55 |
| webchat62 | Ok I'm recovery menu | 14:56 |
| tomreyn | enable networking | 14:56 |
| ioria | root shell | 14:56 |
| webchat62 | I don't know how did it went wrong really tj- :( | 14:56 |
| TJ- | I do!!! | 14:57 |
| webchat62 | Drop to root shell prompt? | 14:57 |
| ioria | yes | 14:57 |
| tomreyn | ioria will guide, tomreyn will have breakfast ;) | 14:57 |
| webchat62 | Enter for maintenance... | 14:57 |
| webchat62 | Ctr D to continue | 14:57 |
| ioria | yes | 14:58 |
| webchat62 | Bon appetit tomreyn | 14:58 |
| webchat62 | Enter? Or ctrl D | 14:58 |
| ioria | same | 14:58 |
| webchat62 | I'm @ root | 14:58 |
| ioria | mount -o remount,rw / | 14:58 |
| mike18 | tomreyn: nobody in debian channel :D | 14:59 |
| webchat62 | Rootfs already mounted on / | 14:59 |
| tomreyn | mike18: as we told you many tiomes before - whether or not someone is on some other channel doesn't mean whether or not you are entitled top ubuntu volunteer support. | 14:59 |
| ioria | Guest4887, adduser username sudo | 14:59 |
| ioria | where username is your username | 15:00 |
| mike18 | @tomreyn i referred to debian channel and not here! | 15:00 |
| mike18 | please | 15:00 |
| webchat62 | Done | 15:00 |
| ioria | Guest4887, grep sudo /etc/group | 15:00 |
| webchat62 | It showsy.username | 15:01 |
| ioria | webchat62, exit and resume | 15:01 |
| webchat62 | Warning about graphical drivers | 15:02 |
| ioria | it's ok | 15:02 |
| ioria | at login screen, restart | 15:02 |
| webchat62 | Ok | 15:02 |
| webchat62 | I'm on again | 15:05 |
| webchat62 | Wifi asks for password immediately after login | 15:05 |
| webchat62 | Should i (store this password for all users ( not encrypted))? | 15:07 |
| morgans | morning 'all (disclaimer, not a bitch but seeking automation) it seems like everyday I see Updated softeware is available..install it now? - I thought I ok'ed "Launchpad" - why must I take a detour from my thoughts to mess with an update that does not require a restart? | 15:11 |
| Razva | is there any way to have a split file manager? | 15:15 |
| morgans | razva open a second window. | 15:15 |
| Razva | :) in the same window | 15:15 |
| Razva | I wanted to avoid Double Commander but ok... | 15:16 |
| morgans | in the same window is a new tab. (tab != window) lol razva | 15:17 |
| morgans | I am not a sysop, just an eternal beginner | 15:17 |
| Razva | what is the Ubuntu alternative for Notepad? | 15:19 |
| Razva | I'm looking for something that removes formatting | 15:19 |
| webchat73 | i think Kate is nice | 15:20 |
| webchat73 | it's default here in my kubuntu | 15:20 |
| _mimojed112 | built in is gedit | 15:21 |
| alkisg | In Ubuntu GNOME, it's "gedit" | 15:21 |
| Razva | aaand for Notepad++? | 15:21 |
| Razva | Kate I guess? | 15:21 |
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| _mimojed112 | most built-in tends to be fairly advance compared to notepad in windows | 15:22 |
| Razva | oh, and how can I add a "classic menu"? or at least align the icons at the center | 15:23 |
| alkisg | Razva: do you have ubuntu, kubuntu, mate... ? | 15:23 |
| Razva | ubuntu | 15:23 |
| alkisg | The default one depends on your desktop environment | 15:23 |
| Razva | isn't Kubuntu slower compared with Ubuntu Gnome? | 15:23 |
| alkisg | You need to tell us your desktop environment first | 15:24 |
| jackneill | hey | 15:25 |
| alkisg | No, everything is faster compared to gnome... | 15:25 |
| Razva | Ah. Ok. | 15:25 |
| jackneill | it seems to me that all snap apps (tried vscode and slack) go blank after a few seconds after starting | 15:25 |
| jackneill | black | 15:25 |
| jackneill | others got this too? | 15:25 |
| webchat73 | is there a way i can change my hostname? | 15:34 |
| lotuspsychje | !hostname | webchat73 | 15:35 |
| ubottu | webchat73: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hosts to include BOTH the old and new hostname and then change /etc/hostname to the new one. WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. | 15:35 |
| webchat73 | TJ- how can i modify (rename - move - deleted) files on the partitions left yesterday | 15:53 |
| webchat73 | sda3 and sda4 | 15:53 |
| webchat73 | when i hover over a file it won't let me move or do anything to it, even though it says that i'm the owner | 15:54 |
| goddard | hello all | 16:05 |
| goddard | so i have a ubuntu system and I am curious how i can switch from using an nvidia card to AMD | 16:05 |
| goddard | it just doesn't display anything | 16:05 |
| toddc | goddard: shut off computer replace video card to amd restart computer nvidia can be a bit trickey to install drivers since nivida drivers are not open source and cannot be included | 16:09 |
| goddard | yeah seems impossible in this situation | 16:10 |
| goddard | should of uninstalled the nvidia drivers before hand | 16:10 |
| goddard | can i uninstall them from a live distro? | 16:11 |
| goddard | i think that is the only way i will be able to get into my system | 16:11 |
| toddc | goddard: that can be done at any time but they are small so i would just ignore them | 16:11 |
| goddard | hopefully | 16:11 |
| murthy | I need software recommendation, here is the place to ask? | 16:47 |
| murthy | I need a software recommendation for mind mapping | 16:48 |
| coconut | murthy, not a pad place no | 16:48 |
| murthy | hey coconut | 16:48 |
| murthy | coconut: ok | 16:49 |
| coconut | murthy, i have never used mind map tools.., but maybe someone else has. | 16:50 |
| murthy | coconut: oh ok | 16:50 |
| murthy | coconut: ty | 16:50 |
| backtoubuntu | hi guys | 16:54 |
| backtoubuntu | coming back to ubuntu after a couple of years | 16:54 |
| backtoubuntu | and doing a clean install | 16:54 |
| backtoubuntu | i have a question regarding partitioning | 16:54 |
| backtoubuntu | i have an efi machine | 16:54 |
| backtoubuntu | so what i was thinking was | 16:54 |
| backtoubuntu | 512 MB for /boot/efi, 40 GB for root, swap as RAM, and all the rest as /home with ext4 | 16:55 |
| backtoubuntu | is that ok? | 16:55 |
| lotuspsychje | !partitioning | backtoubuntu | 16:55 |
| ubottu | backtoubuntu: For help with partitioning a new install see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition | For partitioning programs, see !GParted (recommended) or !PartitionManager. Other partitioning topics include !fstab, !home, and !swap | 16:55 |
| lotuspsychje | backtoubuntu: are you going to singleboot or dualboot? | 16:56 |
| backtoubuntu | single boot | 16:56 |
| backtoubuntu | just ubuntu | 16:56 |
| lotuspsychje | allrighty, you can also auto partition if you like backtoubuntu | 16:57 |
| backtoubuntu | it won't be a problem when the new LTS comes out | 16:57 |
| backtoubuntu | I won't lose my files? | 16:57 |
| lotuspsychje | backtoubuntu: wich release are you installing now? | 16:58 |
| backtoubuntu | 20.04 LTS | 16:58 |
| backtoubuntu | as it's a work machine | 16:58 |
| backtoubuntu | for my business | 16:58 |
| lotuspsychje | backtoubuntu: LTS will get offered to next LTS point release when its out | 16:59 |
| backtoubuntu | point release is ok, that's basically update (if i remember from older ubuntus) | 16:59 |
| backtoubuntu | but to 22.04 next year | 16:59 |
| backtoubuntu | that's what I was thinking | 17:00 |
| lotuspsychje | backtoubuntu: yeah when 22.04.1 point release comes out | 17:00 |
| backtoubuntu | I don't understand | 17:00 |
| backtoubuntu | If i have 20.04 installed, when a point release of 22.04 comes out | 17:00 |
| backtoubuntu | i get prompted to upgrade? | 17:00 |
| lotuspsychje | backtoubuntu: lts jumps always waits until a lot of bugs are solved, usualy at the first . release | 17:01 |
| backtoubuntu | and then there's a prompt to upgrade or something? | 17:02 |
| backtoubuntu | and my files stay on my laptop? | 17:02 |
| lotuspsychje | backtoubuntu: yeah ubuntu will give you the upgrade prompt at 22.04.1 when the upgrade path is open | 17:02 |
| backtoubuntu | and are these upgrades usually reliable lotuspsychje? | 17:03 |
| lotuspsychje | backtoubuntu: its always safe to keep backups at all times, not only at upgrades | 17:04 |
| backtoubuntu | what do you use for backups, timeshift? | 17:04 |
| lotuspsychje | !backup | backtoubuntu | 17:04 |
| ubottu | backtoubuntu: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup, !borg, and !cloning | 17:04 |
| backtoubuntu | thanks lotuspsychje | 17:05 |
| lotuspsychje | welcome and welcome back to the ubuntu community backtoubuntu | 17:05 |
| dob1 | I am using i3 as wm, not gnome and using for example snap store or update ubuntu doesn't prompt me for my password for amministration tasks. What packages I miss? | 17:07 |
| backtoubuntu | thanks lotuspsychje, most helpful and welcoming community in foss, hands down! | 17:08 |
| lotuspsychje | ; ) | 17:08 |
| SnoopJ | it's right in the name, even :) | 17:09 |
| backtoubuntu | SnoopJ, :D | 17:10 |
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| Razva | what is the closest thing to Microsoft Word? I need maximum compatibility | 17:20 |
| SnoopJ | the strict maximum is running Word itself in a virtual machine or maybe with Wine. LibreOffice has pretty good compat, especially with .docx (and friends) | 17:22 |
| merpnderp | Is 20.04LTS the latest server version? | 17:22 |
| merpnderp | Having a hard time getting the download pages to load. | 17:22 |
| BinarySavior | ubuntu apt repo has cmake 1.18 as latest, but snap has 3.21 as latest | 17:23 |
| SnoopJ | kinda depends on what subset of features you're using. I remember being pretty disappointed with the compatibility of the equation editor a long time ago, but not sure if that's improved since. | 17:23 |
| harpia | What is the kernel version in "focal" at the moment? 5.8 or 5.11? | 17:23 |
| BinarySavior | i'm trying to build qt5 which requires 3.19 or later cmake, so i had to install cmake using snap | 17:23 |
| BinarySavior | will apt eventually be deprecated and snap will be _the_ way to install apps? | 17:24 |
| SnoopJ | goodness I hope not | 17:24 |
| BinarySavior | my system froze while using cmake --build and mouse & keyboard were unresponsive | 17:26 |
| BinarySavior | i had to hard reset | 17:26 |
| BinarySavior | idk if that was because of snap or what, but after rebooting now it seems to be working | 17:26 |
| BinarySavior | i don't know *** sorry i think we're not supposed to use SMS | 17:27 |
| SnoopJ | only guess I have is that it was using all system resources for the build, but I'd think you'd at least see build output from that. | 17:29 |
| BinarySavior | i did see some build output, then it froze at like 10% or around there | 17:31 |
| BinarySavior | yea it seemed like it had used all system resources | 17:31 |
| Razva | SnoopJ: between LibreOffice and OpenOffice, which one has better compat? | 17:38 |
| SnoopJ | Razva, OpenOffice was discontinued by Oracle in 2011, LibreOffice is the most prominent continuation of that software and is I believe more actively developed than Apache OpenOffice. I don't know what differences in compat there are, if any. | 17:40 |
| BinarySavior | it happened again, this time i did watch free -m | 17:41 |
| BinarySavior | my computer ran out of memory, cmake has used it all up, i have 16 gigs of memory | 17:41 |
| SnoopJ | maybe you want `cmake --build . -- -jN` where N is some number of jobs that makes sense for your system/the software you're building. | 17:42 |
| BinarySavior | yea, i used --parallel | 17:43 |
| SnoopJ | (the -- is optional but I find that I like it) | 17:43 |
| BinarySavior | does that increase the memory usage? | 17:43 |
| BinarySavior | it has to allocate a lot more threads when it does --parallel right? | 17:43 |
| Razva | Hooooolly smokes, LibreOffice Draw has a PDF editor?! | 17:43 |
| SnoopJ | it depends on what the actual build does, the flag itself is just indicating to cmake that it should let the build tool it generates output for do parallelism | 17:43 |
| SnoopJ | but in general yes it will consume more CPU/memory | 17:44 |
| linsux | is it ok to use flatpak in ubuntu? i dislike snap | 17:44 |
| BinarySavior | so the --parallel flag is just a performance option and it wont effect the resulting build? | 17:44 |
| SnoopJ | I don't know what "effect the resulting build" means to you, but the flag is explicitly there for the build tool's sake. It's you telling cmake to tell the tool to build in parallel, so it definitely modifies the build process. | 17:45 |
| SnoopJ | Usually that doesn't change the end-result, though, but I don't think there's any hard guarantee of that | 17:45 |
| SnoopJ | --parallel and -j are synonyms, btw | 17:47 |
| BinarySavior | ooh | 17:47 |
| BinarySavior | okay | 17:47 |
| leftyfb | linsux: will flapak work, yes. Is it supported here, no. | 17:47 |
| Razva | Ok, I need one more thing and I'm done migrating from Windows to Kubuntu. Is there any tool that allows me to take screenshots and do screen recordings *and* share them somewhere (anywhere)? | 17:48 |
| SnoopJ | if you don't specify the number of jobs, it just does whatever your build tool does | 17:48 |
| SnoopJ | (remember: cmake is not actually building things, it is generating configuration for your build tool of choice and then --build is a way to ask make to invoke the tool for you) | 17:48 |
| SnoopJ | to ask cmake* | 17:48 |
| BinarySavior | qt5 README says to use cmake --build . --parallel, but i'm thinking if I omit the parallel flag it might not run out of memory during the build process. Do you think I should do that? Or if I follow your suggestion, how can I dtermine a reasonable amount of jobs to specify | 17:48 |
| SnoopJ | nproc - 1 is usually a sane choice, but when it comes to memory, it really depends on how much memory each job is going to consume. | 17:50 |
| SnoopJ | I don't see --parallel in https://github.com/qt/qt5/blob/dev/README.md though? | 17:51 |
| goddard | im screwed | 17:52 |
| goddard | even the live CD requires safe grpahics mode | 17:52 |
| BinarySavior | sorry, I was wrong, it was the output of ./configure that said to use --parallel flag | 17:54 |
| goddard | i think having grub show by pressing the ESC key is probably a bad idea | 17:56 |
| goddard | because if you keep pressing it and whined up on the grub screen pressing escape lands you into the grub command prompt | 17:57 |
| goddard | also setting the timeout to 0 is fine, but you have to detect issues if you are gonna do that | 17:57 |
| goddard | for example | 17:58 |
| SnoopJ | BinarySavior, I'd try half the number of processors in your system as a conservative-but-still-parallel guess. Keep an eye on your RAM usage and if there's some margin left that you'd rather utilize, you can go up from there. | 17:58 |
| goddard | on windows if you reboot 3 times without logging in or rebooting "properly" then it starts a recovery session | 17:58 |
| SnoopJ | at a guess, building Qt is really memory-hungry during the link phase, maybe? I don't think I've ever built it, but I know it's a chonker. | 17:58 |
| SnoopJ | so maybe it's doing several big links at once or something | 17:59 |
| tomreyn | goddard: while i like that you're providing suggestions to improve, those should really go into a feature request (they will just be lost here). consider filing a bug report against grub | 18:00 |
| tomreyn | !bug | goddard | 18:00 |
| ubottu | goddard: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 18:00 |
| BinarySavior | SnoopJ, I couldn't figure out how to get qt5 using the installer | 18:01 |
| tomreyn | goddard: also, did you solve the problem you ran into earlier? | 18:01 |
| SnoopJ | BinarySavior, is there a reason you're not installing the packages in the Ubuntu repositories? | 18:03 |
| tomreyn | Razva: for questions which refer to what's explicitly *K*ubuntu, such as the graphical user interfaces and desktop applications, I would say #kubuntu is the better place to ask. ubuntu and kubuntu share the same foundation, but anything referring to the graphical stack differs a lot. | 18:04 |
| tomreyn | the user interfaces anyways, not graphics drivers | 18:04 |
| BinarySavior | SnoopJ, oh man I didn't know that was an option | 18:07 |
| BinarySavior | i feel like an idiot | 18:07 |
| goddard | tomreyn no | 18:08 |
| goddard | still cant boot into linux | 18:09 |
| SnoopJ | BinarySavior, I think qt5-default gives you the basic development environment, but there are a lot of ancillary packages you might want depending on what functionality you want. https://wiki.qt.io/Install_Qt_5_on_Ubuntu has some info | 18:09 |
| SnoopJ | Glad I asked instead of just assuming you had a particular reason for wanting to build it yourself :) | 18:09 |
| goddard | tomreyn the ubuntu live cd has a "safe graphics" mode but in grub install it doesn't | 18:09 |
| goddard | ubuntu devs more worried about switching the installer to flutter than actually making ubuntu easier to use | 18:12 |
| tomreyn | goddard: let's focus on what you did, what doesn't seem to work, how you tell (I don't doubt it, but describing this will help solving the issue). | 18:24 |
| goddard | i installed a new graphics card | 18:24 |
| goddard | ubuntu crapped its pants | 18:24 |
| tomreyn | you are good at making me loose to spend my volunteer time to support you | 18:25 |
| tomreyn | loose interest | 18:25 |
| tomreyn | on a system which was already running ubuntu, i assume? which ubuntu release? | 18:25 |
| goddard | its ubuntu 21.04 | 18:25 |
| tomreyn | from what i gathered previously, you used to have a dedicated nvidia graphics card installed, then removed that and installed a dedicated amd graphics card. is this correct? | 18:26 |
| goddard | I didn't remove it | 18:26 |
| goddard | I still have it | 18:26 |
| goddard | I just put an AMD card in | 18:26 |
| goddard | as the main card | 18:27 |
| goddard | PCIe slot 1 | 18:27 |
| tomreyn | so you're saying there is now a dedicated nvidia and a dedicated amd graphics card installed, ok. is there also an integrated graphics chipset? | 18:27 |
| goddard | no | 18:27 |
| goddard | no iGPU | 18:28 |
| tomreyn | okay, so the driver for current amd graphics cards is amdgpu, for nvidia graphics cards there is the oipen source "nouveau" driver, and the proprietary "nvidia" driver. which one was active before you added the amd graphics card? | 18:29 |
| tomreyn | (if you know) | 18:29 |
| tomreyn | goddard: still around? | 18:30 |
| goddard | yes | 18:30 |
| goddard | the blob from Nvidia | 18:31 |
| goddard | was active | 18:31 |
| tomreyn | !enter | goddard | 18:31 |
| ubottu | goddard: Please try and keep as much of your info as possible on ONE line - easier to follow for everyone. | 18:31 |
| tomreyn | that's a configuration i've not had to deal with. i wuold not personally try to make this work on a non LTS release | 18:33 |
| tomreyn | but you can try. you should definitely take a look at your logs there, get an idea of why X fails to initialize one or more of the drivers | 18:33 |
| tomreyn | you'll see the /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session lines in journalctl -b output, this is where X is initializing | 18:34 |
| tomreyn | and you'll see how amdgpu and nvidia drivers are initializing there. | 18:35 |
| tomreyn | in my experience it's much easier when you have just open source drivers, but i guess you don't really have that option if you want good performance from the nvidia graphics card | 18:35 |
| goddard | what is the LIVE USBs "safe graphics mode" doing? | 18:36 |
| tomreyn | i think it disables UMS for nvidia | 18:37 |
| tomreyn | there will be an extra parameter on the "linux" line if you press 'e' on the grub menu | 18:37 |
| tomreyn | bbl | 18:37 |
| nergar | where does bash get the \h info for PS1? | 18:39 |
| nergar | my bash prompt looks like nergar@nergar:~$ but my /etc/hostname is nergar.(domain) | 18:40 |
| nergar | `hostname` also returns the full hostname with tld | 18:41 |
| nergar | what's going on? | 18:41 |
| rfm | nergar, from the bash man page ¨\h the hostname up to the first `.' | 18:42 |
| rfm | ¨ | 18:42 |
| nergar | damn... missed that fact | 18:43 |
| nergar | need \H | 18:43 |
| nergar | thnx rfm | 18:43 |
| nergar | rtfm... my bad | 18:44 |
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| ivaat | i am following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization < and i have question about sudo mount -o bind /run/ edit/run | 19:19 |
| ivaat | how i can umount it back to /run | 19:19 |
| ivaat | simple umount /run does not do it | 19:19 |
| dbungert | ivaat: you want umount edit/run I think | 19:21 |
| ivaat | dbungert: thx. will try out | 19:23 |
| BinarySavior | SnoopJ, setting 3 workers successfully completed build | 19:24 |
| BinarySavior | not sure how long it took because my wife needed the office for an appointment and i wasn't able to monitor the process | 19:24 |
| BinarySavior | wow, after all that i type qmake --version and it says it's using qt version 6 | 19:28 |
| BinarySavior | i need version 5 | 19:28 |
| BinarySavior | also SnoopJ I discovered why I didn't use ubuntu repository to install qt5, because qt5-default does not exist on ubuntu 21.04 repo yet | 19:32 |
| ice9 | when I play 4K video in vlc there is massive FPS loss and the video is choppy, any idea? | 20:00 |
| coconut | ice9, cpu or gpu not fast enough? | 20:07 |
| ice9 | coconut, i7 11th gen + nvidia gpu | 20:07 |
| coconut | yeah that not slow is it? | 20:08 |
| coconut | i don't know, maybe someone else here can say... | 20:10 |
| Mekaneck | isn't that something to ask in to vlc support channel? | 20:11 |
| coconut | yes probably gives better responses, #videolan is their channel if i am not mistaken | 20:12 |
| zteam | TJ-, tomreyn Hi, just wanted to give you two a big thank you, I was in a bit a of a hurry yesterday, so I didn't have enough time to to run resize2fs but that's indeed solved my issue, with the encrypted partition, itsems to work perfectly now again :D | 20:25 |
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| tomreyn | zteam: :) nice. it was really tj who helped you solve it, i just noticed that the file system size was larger than the 'physical' (partition) size. | 20:45 |
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| zteam | tomreyn, well you both spend alot of time helping me out there :-) | 21:31 |
| j`ey | anyone know wht fwupd is 'held' back on rpi? | 21:36 |
| tomreyn | j`ey: details needed. on paste.ubuntu.com | 21:56 |
| j`ey | not much details wise, rpi4, 20.04, The following packages have been kept back: fwupd fwupd-signed | 21:59 |
| tomreyn | j`ey: can you show sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo grep -hEv '^([ ]*#.*)?$' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*.list} 2>&1; sudo apt-get -y update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog && rm /tmp/aptlog | 22:07 |
| j`ey | tomreyn: https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/0c24154ea1b247e39718c1cb9b619cc6 | 22:12 |
| tomreyn | j`ey: this doesn't mention any packages being held back | 22:14 |
| tomreyn | j`ey: in fact, fwupd amd fwupd-signed would be upgraded there | 22:14 |
| tomreyn | lines 135 + 135 | 22:15 |
| tomreyn | maybe you did not use full-upgrade? | 22:15 |
| j`ey | am I meant to? | 22:15 |
| j`ey | Ive never used full-upgrade before, what does it do differently to upgrade? | 22:15 |
| tomreyn | $ apt --help | grep full-upgrade | 22:17 |
| tomreyn | full-upgrade - upgrade the system by removing/installing/upgrading packages | 22:17 |
| j`ey | ah so full-upgrade can remove, but normal upgrade cant | 22:17 |
| tomreyn | correct | 22:17 |
| tomreyn | it also enables more complex solutions, i think | 22:19 |
| tomreyn | i think full-upgrade to apt does the equivalent to apt-get's "dist-upgrade" | 22:20 |
| SnoopJ | BinarySavior, ahh, I see. Well, glad you found a way to complete the build without bringing your system to a halt | 22:26 |
| Swift110-mobile | oh nice tomreyn thanks | 23:01 |
| Swift110-mobile | I almost ran that command on my macbook | 23:01 |
| Swift110-mobile | lol | 23:01 |
| * Swift110-mobile looks forward to getting home to use it on his thinkpad | 23:01 | |
| Swift110-mobile | well thinkpads | 23:01 |
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