[00:15] <pycurious> Canonical has a k8s implementation - how does one scale those pods on different cloud providers? Does anyone here use that product?
[01:21] <bewees> Can I run a kernel >=5.13 in 21.04 relatively stable? I think beta for 21.10 is not out yet
[01:22] <bewees> Ah found daily builds for 21.10: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[01:22] <tomreyn> !mainline | bewees
[01:22] <bewees> Thanks I try that tomreyn
[01:23] <tomreyn> but note this is only meant for testing. why do you need th enewer kernel?
[01:23] <leftyfb> !ubuntu+1 | bewees
[01:24] <bewees> tomreyn: My Laptop uses Intel 11th generation with Iris igpu and in 5.10 adjusting the backlight is working only for newer kernel versions
[01:25] <bewees> tomreyn: So you would recommend to better use 21.04 with the mainline kernel rather than 21.10 testing images?
[01:27] <tomreyn> bewees: "in 5.10 [a kernel version] adjusting the backlight is working only for newer kernel versions"? i'm not sure i understand
[01:28] <tomreyn> hirsute (Ubuntu 21.04) comes with kernel version 5.11
[01:30] <tomreyn> generally speaking, if you have hardware functionality you strictly depend on, and which is too new to be supported on any ubuntu release but supported by newer kernel versions, then you could use a script to keep running the latest mainline kernels until there is support for it in ubuntu.
[01:31] <tomreyn> this isn't supported, but probably the best approach in this (rather rare) situation.
[01:32] <bewees> tomreyn: I see, I will try that. I tried 21.04 already, thus 5.11 seems to not have my required drivers either
[01:32] <bewees> Until October this should be doable, then I can upgrade to 21.10
[01:34] <pycurious> is anyone using k8s from canonical in production here?
[01:34] <leftyfb> pycurious: try #ubuntu-server or contact Canonical for any of their commercial products
[01:37] <tomreyn> bewees: there is https://github.com/pimlie/ubuntu-mainline-kernel.sh (but i think this one does not verify gpg signatures) and https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts#wget_kernel_mainlinesh (which was really written by TJ, and can verify gpg signatures)
[01:41] <bewees> Thankd tomreyn I will try this tomorrow, very late here already 😊
[01:46] <tomreyn> i assume those will still be there tomorrow, this should be fine. ;-)
[02:27] <user1> hi
[03:24] <pycurious> is there a command line way to start and stop recording the screen in ubuntu? Then write a mp4 or mov file as output?
[03:25] <matsaman> pycurious: https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/Capture/Desktop
[03:27] <pycurious> matsaman: Thanks - that is what i was looking for
[03:35]  * SnoopJ likes SimpleScreenRecorder, too
[04:32] <blahboybaz> Can not remove a printer in 20.04. It keeps automatically adding back as soon as I remove it. I've tried looking for information online but what I'm finding looks like a bunch of long-winded jibberish! Is there a simple solution that allows me to get rid of this offending printer that I don't even own?
[04:32] <blahboybaz> I don't even know who's printer it is - I just want it gone
[04:34] <noarb> some printers announce themselves on the network and can be auto-discovered (via avahi/bonjour)
[04:45] <blahboybaz> noarb: I thought I had it with an edit to some line in some cups config file (something I found in a forum post). The only thing that changed is I don't get a pop up revealing that it was added back (but it is still actually being added back)
[04:45] <blahboybaz> I really don't want some strangers printer on my laptop
[04:50] <blahboybaz> So am I forced to have some printer on my machine? What happens if I uninstall cups? Probably a bunch of other stuff is dependend on it and the system breaks? Or if I get a printer later that I want to use I can't because I don't have cups on my machine? If I reinstall it to use my own printer later then it just installs that strangers printer again like - ha ha! gotcha again! right?
[05:33] <noarb> blahboybaz: https://askubuntu.com/a/463392 did you edit your configuration when the service was not running?
[05:57] <alkisg> blahboybaz: start printing this line on this printer, until it goes away: "PLEASE DISABLE YOUR PRINTER SHARING" :P :D
[05:58] <alkisg> (and yeah I agree with you that it should be possible to blacklist some network printers)
[06:02] <alkisg> blahboybaz: for workarounds, see: https://wiki.debian.org/CUPSDriverlessPrinting#CUPS_2.2.4_and_the_GTK_Print_Dialog
[06:03] <TJ-> blahboybaz: if your system is discovering the remote printer its on your network(s). Find out its IP addresses and then figure out how it is reachable. "avahi-browse -art" and look for the 'host' entry for the print
[06:46] <dob1> if I am not using gnome I am not able to run the software update gui, it doesn't ask for my password. What I have to install? I just installed policykit-1-gnome
[06:54] <audiobirb> I'm trying to use a self-signed cert to add ssl to a website hosted with nginx. but i'm getting a permissions error. i created the ssl certificate with openssl and it put it in a folder i cant even access with sudo for security purposes. but the nginx configuration file cant even access it either. i've no clue what to do. here is the permissions error: https://pastebin.com/YM6fdMvY
[06:56] <alkisg> dob1: which desktop environment are you using? Each one has its own software update gui
[07:20] <dob1> alkisg, i3
[07:21] <alkisg> Ah, you mean no desktop environment at all, just a window manager?
[07:22] <dob1> alkisg, yes
[07:22] <alkisg> Eh, that will have missing bits indeed :)
[07:23] <dob1> it's not just software update, every software that asks for authorization doesn't work because I doesn't ask for my password to continue
[07:23] <dob1> *it doesn't
[07:24] <alkisg> So pkexec bash has the same issue?
[07:27] <dob1> alkisg, pkexec bash asks for my password but it fails too
[07:28] <dob1> Error executing command as another user: Not authorized
[07:28] <alkisg> dob1:  Well, these are my polkit/policykit related packages on Ubuntu MATE 20.04; see if some of them help: https://termbin.com/rpkw
[07:29] <alkisg> But in general, you might be better off installing a desktop environment, even lubuntu, to satisfy all the dependencies; then run your i3 instead
[07:30] <dob1> alkisg, I installed ubuntu so I have gnome, I could use gnome. After the installation I installed i3
[07:30] <alkisg> Hmm, but you're using a custom session, you didn't just change the window manager, right?
[07:31] <alkisg> Is dbus even running in your setup?
[07:31] <dob1> alkisg, I am using i3 alone, not ask wm for an existing de
[07:31] <dob1> it is
[07:31] <alkisg> How about this one? root         941  0.0  0.0 241556 11092 ?        Ssl  08:06   0:01 /usr/lib/policykit-1/polkitd --no-debug
[07:32] <alkisg> And, there should also be an authentication agent, although mine is from mate:
[07:32] <alkisg> alkisg      2545  0.0  0.2 728428 42888 ?        Sl   08:07   0:00          _ /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/polkit-mate/polkit-mate-authentication-agent-1
[07:32] <dob1> it's running
[07:32] <dob1> alkisg, the second one it's not running
[07:33] <alkisg> What's the output of `grep -ri authent /etc/xdg/autostart` ?
[07:33] <alkisg> There should be a gnome polkit authentication agent  there
[07:34] <alkisg> It'll probably also have an only-run-in: gnome entry in the desktop file, and that would be why it won't launch in your custom session
[07:35] <dob1> alkisg, it's this https://paste.debian.net/hidden/0df7fe48/
[07:35] <alkisg> Try to run it manually: /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1
[07:35] <alkisg> Then try again: pkexec bash
[07:36] <ducasse> i don't those are started with i3 unless you use dex
[07:37] <dob1> alkisg, if I run the one you suggested and then pkexec bash will ask for a graphical password and it works
[07:37] <dob1> what is dex?
[07:37] <ducasse> it runs .desktop files, but can also handle autostart xdg items
[07:38] <alkisg> ducasse: I've no idea about i3, you think it doesn't run /etc/xdg/autostart at all? Because that one wouldn't run anyway, I bet it has a OnlyShowIn=GNOME or something in it...
[07:38] <alkisg> dob1: anyway, just put that command in your session script
[07:41] <dob1> alkisg, ok thanks. I will try!
[07:41] <alkisg> 👍️
[07:43] <ducasse> dob1: you can also use lxpolkit if you don't want the gnome agent
[07:44] <dob1> ducasse, but it's for lxde
[07:45] <ducasse> doesn't matter, it's just a small polkit agent
[07:45] <dob1> ok I installed it
[07:46] <ducasse> i use it where i don't want gnome deps
[08:35] <ice9> apt autoremove doesn't remove old kernels, any idea?
[08:53] <alkisg> ice9: you can remove them manually. List them with e.g. `dpkg -l 'linux*' | grep -v ^un` and put the ones that you don't need in an `apt purge xxx` command
[09:10] <blomberg> hi
[09:11] <blomberg> when i run protonvpn app it says for current version of gtk3 it needs ubuntu 20.04 not 18.04 which i have?? so how can i get the latest version
[09:12] <Mekaneck> ice9 alkisg doesn't Ubuntu remove old kernels itself? At least i have been told that a while ago.
[09:12] <alkisg> Mekaneck: it does but only for a couple of the most recent kernels; if they're left over, it no longer tries to delete them
[09:13] <blomberg> gtk3.24 or higher
[09:13] <Mekaneck> alkisg: ah, ok. Thanks.
[09:13] <blomberg> what's cmd to check my gtk version
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> blomberg: apt policy your-package-here
[09:33] <blomberg> apt policy gtk3-
[09:33] <blomberg> gtk3-engines-breeze  gtk3-engines-unico   gtk3-engines-xfce    gtk3-im-libthai      gtk3-nocsd
[09:33] <blomberg> lotuspsychje: can i get new version of gtk3.24 or higher on ubuntu 18.04
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> blomberg: apt policy libgtk-3-0
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> blomberg: its usualy not a good idea to mix packages across several ubuntu releases
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> blomberg: best to stick on package versions meant specific for your ubuntu release
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> blomberg: there are some workarounds on that with !pinning !backports !snaps and proposed
[09:39] <bewees> How secure Ubuntu save their infrastructure keys and is Ubuntu obligated to share them with governmental juridictions?
[09:40] <blomberg> ok then' i will update , but let's hope it doesn't break my install
[09:40] <blomberg> i feel there is risk
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> blomberg: update what?
[09:41] <bewees> Safe*
[09:41] <blomberg> to 20.04 from 18.04
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> blomberg: make a good backup of your files, then upgrade safe
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | bewees try here
[09:44] <bewees> Thanks lotus
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> welcome
[09:46] <xavier4> quit
[09:46] <xavier4> quit
[09:46] <xavier4> exit
[09:56] <blomberg> lotuspsychje: what's this "safe"
[10:00] <jelly> hi, I need to resurrect a 12.04.1 installation and possibly install additional packages to make it boot on different hw (with lvm); where do I find repos for precise, or better, the exact point release of precise, today?
[10:08] <oldgalileo> Howdy! Would it be possible to downgrade the systemd version alone on Ubuntu 18.04.5?
[10:23] <ledeni[m]> jelly -->http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/ & http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/
[11:24] <guiverc> jelly, Ubuntu 12.04 is EOL; and thus not supported here.  12.04 ESM was available, but I think even that has ended
[11:37] <Mekaneck> guiverc: yep, you're right. 14.04 and 16.04 are the ones with ESM now iirc.
[11:50] <Helmholtz> How difficult is it to maintain a PPA for a Go app?
[11:50] <Helmholtz> Is it like a GitHub Action? Can I ssh into a box and build the package?
[11:52] <r4> Hi
[12:01] <goddard> Helmholtz: why not just use flatpak or appimage?
[12:02] <goddard> 1 package for all linux users rather than just ubuntu
[12:02] <goddard> i like appimage personally, but people seem to like flatpak as well
[12:02] <Helmholtz> goddard, yeah I also use them but there is this PPA, I was wondering how hard is maintaining one
[12:04] <goddard> i haven't created a PPA so couldn't tell you, but I believe launchpad uses bzr.
[12:04] <Guest62> my laptop sound isn't as loud as it used to be on windows
[12:04] <Guest62> any idea how to fix it?
[12:05] <goddard> Guest62: allow the volumn have "over-amplification"
[12:06] <Guest62> goddard how can i do that
[12:06] <goddard> its in gnome settings under sound
[12:07] <Guest62> i'm using kubuntu
[12:07] <goddard> i dont remember for plasma
[12:07] <goddard> it has the same thing though i think
[12:08] <Guest62> i can't find it
[12:12] <Guest62> also my windows key won't open start menu anymore
[12:13] <Helmholtz> How to see how a PPA is built?
[12:13] <Helmholtz> .dsc ?
[12:13] <Mekaneck> Guest62: then re-asign the key to it
[12:13] <Guest62> Mekaneck with what command
[12:14] <Mekaneck> no command needed
[12:15] <Mekaneck> rightclick on the menu button and select Configure Application Launcher Guest62
[12:15] <Mekaneck> then go to Keyboard Shortcuts
[12:15] <Guest62> it's showing "none"
[12:15] <Guest62> but when i click on it
[12:15] <Guest62> and then click my windows key
[12:16] <Guest62> it shows meta
[12:16] <Guest62> and wants me to clickk another key
[12:16] <Mekaneck> try ALT + F1
[12:16] <Guest62> it seems like it own't allow only one key to open the start menu
[12:16] <Mekaneck> then the windows key should work again
[12:16] <Guest62> woked!
[12:17] <Guest62> thank you a lot <3
[12:17] <Mekaneck> you're welcome
[12:24] <hajonnes> Hi, I have a hard time finding things in the repository. e.g. I found only snap gimp, I used apt install gimp and it worked. Also I want to install intellij and synaptic does not show it when searching but Ubuntu Software finds it easy. what is wrong?
[12:28] <sharperguy> Hi. Is there a way I can use iptables or something else to create a simulated network delay, to a specific process only?
[12:32] <tarzeau_> hajonnes: synaptic was long replaced by something else, doesn't exist anymore
[12:32] <tarzeau_> hajonnes: intellij is not packaged, mabye as snap or flatpak, otherwise you have to take care of it yourself
[12:33] <hajonnes> tarzeau_what should I use instead of synaptic. I like to see packages and so on?
[12:34] <tarzeau_> packages.ubuntu.com in browser? or gnome-software or what it is called
[12:34]  * tarzeau_ prefers apt-cache search
[12:34] <hajonnes> tarzeau_, yes I saw that now. it is snap. need to find and install it the real way I think.
[12:40] <hajonnes> tarzeau_, Will try apt-cache search.
[12:52] <hajonnes> how can I find the icon file of a program? @ubuntu 20.04
[12:53] <tarzeau_> look for the desktop file, then inside that file Icon= then list the pkg for that name
[12:53] <tarzeau_> usually it's a .png
[12:56] <merpnderp> Anyone know of a good RDP client for windows?
[12:57] <tomreyn> merpnderp: try a windows channel such as #windows
[12:57] <merpnderp> tomreyn: I need a linux RDP client.
[12:58] <merpnderp> #windows wouldn't know about those.
[12:58] <pizzaburger> Hello all! Having troubles booting into Ubuntu 20.10. After I unclock the disk "keystore-rpool" I get this message: [1.779286] psmouse serio1: synaptics: Ubavle to query device: -5
[12:58] <pizzaburger> Unable*
[12:58] <leftyfb> merpnderp: remmina is an RDP client for linux
[12:58] <merpnderp> I need a linux RDP client so that I can RDP into a windows machine.
[12:58] <merpnderp> thanks leftyfb
[12:58] <tomreyn> merpnderp: okay, you asked for "a good RDP client for windows", that's why ;)
[12:59] <leftyfb> merpnderp: ubuntu has a software stop that you can search for applications. Just like on your phone.
[12:59] <merpnderp> tomreyn: yeah, I realized I was very unclear there :P
[12:59] <merpnderp> leftyfb: Yeah, I looked through it but couldn't really compare which ones were better.
[12:59] <merpnderp> Plus I haven't been in the linux world for 10 years, so its hard to know which packages have good reputations.
[13:00] <leftyfb> merpnderp: you install them and try them out. This isn't the place for software opinions. Try #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[13:00] <merpnderp> okay
[13:02] <tomreyn> tarzeau_ / hajonnes: looks like synaptic is still available (from universe) with growing version numbers until the latest stable release
[13:03] <tomreyn> personally, if i needed something graphical for package management (luckily i don't), i would still very much prefer it to "ubuntu-software", just because it lists all the packages, and i can tell what's provided by apt vs snap
[13:04] <tomreyn> (but i'd also recommend using "apt" in a terminal)
[13:07] <jelly> ledeni[m], thank you!
[13:07] <pizzaburger> The message also reads: You are in emergency mode. After logging in, type "journalctl -xb" to view system logs, "systemctl reboot" to reboot, "systemctl default" or "exit" to boot into default mode. Press enter for maintenance (or press Control-D to continue):"
[13:08] <pizzaburger> Yesterday I pressed ctrl+D on that message in it got to the login screen and all was fine. Today I can't even do that anymore. Does anyone know how to resolve this? Thanks!
[13:09] <hajonnes> tomreyn, Yes I agree. I do not like sofware center now prefers snap. I do not find any way to change it also. But it is strange that I do not find apt gimp in sofware center and I can install it using apt.
[13:11] <tomreyn> hajonnes: i have little experience with software center, so can't exactly comment as to why only the snap would show there. i know that at some point both snap and apt packages going by the same name would show there. maybe this has changed since.
[13:12] <tomreyn> !20.10 | pizzaburger
[13:14] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: this could be a physically broken disk. boot from an ubuntu installer/live system and run smartctl -x against the disk
[13:15] <tomreyn> is this a hdd or ssd?
[13:15] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: ssd
[13:16] <tomreyn> okay, then my theory is less likely to be correct. but try it nevertheless.
[13:17] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: ok, gimme a sec to make a bootable USB
[13:17] <pizzaburger> Your theory is scary
[13:17] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: shouldn't be, if you have backups?
[13:18] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: about that...
[13:18] <tomreyn> :-(
[13:19] <pizzaburger> I can't make a live USB from an already live USB, can I?
[13:19] <pizzaburger> I can, awesome!
[13:20] <tomreyn> so is this not actually an ssd but just a usb stick then, flash memory?
[13:21] <pizzaburger> No, it's SSD on my laptopt, I'm just trying to make a bootable USB for it to test that "smartctl -x" command from an already live Ubuntu from a different laptop.
[13:21] <tomreyn> ok
[13:29] <pizzaburger> Also, I wouldn't be able to unlock the drive if it was broken, correct?
[13:30] <pizzaburger> When I do ctrl+D on that message it gives me: "Failed to start default target: Transaction for graphical.target/start is destructive (emergency.target has 'start' job queued, but 'stop is included in transaction)."
[13:35] <tomreyn> i have not seen this message before
[13:36] <tomreyn> apparently this can be a result of file system inconsistencies (which can be the result of a decaying disk)
[13:37] <tomreyn> (or of using btrfs)
[13:40] <Guest46> tomreyn: is there any method of booting to my desktop and at least backing up my data? Decaying disk sounds interesting, the laptop is 3 years old.
[13:42] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: got that bootable USB. Should I still try to run that "smartctl -x" command?
[13:43] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: it is just one theory, there can be other reasons. you likely have a broken file system on / now. if the file system isn't that broken you could still have booted to recovery, but from what i understand that's no longer so. so you need to boot off a working live system and repair from there.
[13:44] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: Thanks for the insight! Any pointers on where should I start with the repair?
[13:44] <tomreyn> yes, do the smartctl -x (or just -a) against the disk you normally boot off first. review it, or have it reviewed here (pastebin). then, if it looks ok, run fsck against then normal installations' root file system.
[13:47] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: note that you have two major problems here: no (complete, current, proven restorable) backups, EOL system (we would not normally support you here with this). make sure you fix both of those as soon as you can.
[13:47] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: roger that.
[13:48] <tomreyn> !smart | pizzaburger
[13:50] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CBczsSrVHt/a
[13:51] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: could you please review the output?
[13:52] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: " The Paste you are looking for does not currently exist. "
[13:52] <tomreyn> looks like you meant https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CBczsSrVHt/
[13:55] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: i'm not really able to interpret this other than by "SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED" - i've not worked much with nvme's, yet.
[13:55] <tomreyn> but based on that message, you can probably go ahead and (try to) repair the file system and backup your data
[13:56] <tomreyn> "Unsafe Shutdowns: 174" - that's plenty, try to prevent this in the future.
[13:57] <tomreyn> !sysrq
[14:01] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: awesome, thanks! Will keep the unsafe shutdown in mind, but those are all cases when I had this problem earlier. So I'm just running "fsck" in ubuntu@ubuntu dir, right? Or should I mount that /dev/nvme0n1p5 disk first?
[14:03] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: whenever you can, run fsck against file systems which are not mounted
[14:04] <tomreyn> i don't know which device you need to check
[14:04] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: so "fsck /dev/nvme0n1p5" - that's the Solaris Root partition
[14:05] <tomreyn> "Solaris Root partition"?
[14:05] <tomreyn> this channel is about ubuntu linux
[14:05] <pizzaburger> I'm viewing the disks in "Disks"
[14:06] <tomreyn> do you use zfs in addition to btrfs?
[14:06] <pizzaburger> Have 5 volumes: partition1 (BIOS Boot), Filesystem (EFI system), Partition 3 (linux swap), bpool (solaris boot), rpool (Solaris Root)
[14:08] <tomreyn> hmm i guess i lack experience with btrfs then. indeed, something on either bpool or rpool may be what you need to check.
[14:10] <tomreyn> https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Btrfsck
[14:11] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rPNSFts7Kh/
[14:11] <pizzaburger> I assume that's not what I'm looking for
[14:13] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: not according to the wiki page i posted above (which is from 2015)
[14:13] <tomreyn> i suggest to read up on it ot to wait for someone who is experienced with btrfs.
[14:15] <pizzaburger> Ok, so I'm doing "btrfs check --repair <device>" on the root volume, and not any other volume on my disk, correct? The root one being the biggest (507 GB out of 512 GB)
[14:16] <tomreyn> about "Will keep the unsafe shutdown in mind, but those are all cases when I had this problem earlier" - note that file system corruption doesn't neccessarily go away by itself. especially if it remains, you need to actively try to fix it and not just ignore the error.
[14:16] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: Duly noted.
[14:17] <tomreyn> now is a good time (since the system is not live) to ensure that all file systems are in good shape.
[14:17] <tomreyn> how you'll do this for btrfs, i'm afraid i do not know.
[14:18] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ny29nPFvkd/
[14:19] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: see above
[14:20] <marcoagpinto> Hello!
[14:21] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: i think i brought up btrfs here, mixing this up with a chat i had in #ubuntu-server. what you have there is probably zfs, not btrfs
[14:21] <marcoagpinto> why has my VM installed hours ago crashed?
[14:21] <marcoagpinto> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pe66ihmm9kxwci9/ubuntu20_04_02_crash_20210818.png?dl=0
[14:21] <marcoagpinto> I deleted and reinstalled it because "videos" app was crashing all the time
[14:21] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: i also can't help you fix zfs, though
[14:22] <tomreyn> marcoagpinto: then it won't be possible to find out now.
[14:22] <marcoagpinto> but this screenshot is from the one I installed today
[14:22] <marcoagpinto> it crashed while I was browsing with Firefox
[14:23] <jelly> marcoagpinto, virtualbox can be unstable every now and then.  You could try hyper-v or esxi for the host
[14:23] <jelly> or kvm
[14:23] <marcoagpinto> I don't have Windows 10 Pro, so no hyper-v :(
[14:23] <tomreyn> marcoagpinto: okay, so this error is about virtualbox guest additions.
[14:24] <jelly> marcoagpinto, in any case, you'll want to look at logs on the host side for reasons for crash
[14:24] <marcoagpinto> tomreyn: is that good?
[14:24] <marcoagpinto> :)
[14:24] <tomreyn> marcoagpinto: it means the failing software is not part of ubuntu
[14:25] <marcoagpinto> ahhhhhhh
[14:25] <marcoagpinto> oki
[14:25] <marcoagpinto> :)
[14:25] <marcoagpinto> thanks
[14:25] <alkisg> It's saying that you didn't install gcc so it can't compile the additions
[14:25] <alkisg> You don't need to compile them, just install them from the ubuntu repositories
[14:25] <marcoagpinto> I didn't install gcc, only pearl
[14:25] <marcoagpinto> :(
[14:26] <nibjc> pearl best progrem
[14:26] <marcoagpinto> if I do: sudo apt-get install gcc
[14:26] <marcoagpinto> will the crash be gone for good?
[14:26] <moha> by "enable -now" we can enable a service  and start it: systemctl enable --now something.service
[14:26] <moha> is there any trick to restart and get the status of service one after the other in one systemctl command?
[14:28] <tomreyn> marcoagpinto: to provide the very file the error message discusses you'd need to install libgcc1 - but you may actually need mor ethan just that to make VirtualBox Guest Additions work. they do provide documentation. the easiest approach may be to sudo apt install build-essential
[14:29] <marcoagpinto> gcc is already the newest version (4:9.3.0-1ubuntu2).
[14:29] <marcoagpinto> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[14:29] <marcoagpinto>   chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra gstreamer1.0-vaapi
[14:29] <marcoagpinto>   libgstreamer-plugins-bad1.0-0 libva-wayland2
[14:29] <alzgh> Hello, sorry if this question is out of scope or obvious. If I want to investigate/read the source of a GNU tool on Ubuntu, say `factor` from coreutils, where/how can I find the source on Ubuntu repos? Is it better to investigate it on Ubuntu repos or go to GNU upstream?
[14:29] <tomreyn> !paste | marcoagpinto
[14:29] <marcoagpinto> ahhh... sorry about the multiplelines
[14:30] <marcoagpinto> tomreyn: sudo apt install build-essential ? I am about to run it
[14:30] <tomreyn> moha: not that i know of, but this should be easy to script
[14:31] <marcoagpinto> done
[14:31] <marcoagpinto> :)
[14:31] <marcoagpinto> let me reboot the VM
[14:31] <hajonnes> I'm trying to build a .desktop file. when I execute it I get error but when I start the program directly without the .desktop file I get no error.
[14:33] <hajonnes> error log https://pastebin.com/65xvvuPS
[14:34] <hajonnes> .desktop file https://pastebin.com/R7u85wUQ
[14:36] <hajonnes> what could be the problem? I have a .ini file that I think is not engaging when using the .desktop file but I'm not sure.
[14:36] <tomreyn> hajonnes: you may want / need to specify Path=
[14:36] <varaindemian> how can I install python3 32-bit on ubuntu 18.04/20.04 64-bit?
[14:37] <hajonnes> tomreyn, ok the path to the directory where the execution should take place?
[14:38] <tomreyn> hajonnes: yes, that's what i mean. i hope PAth= is correct, i haven't verified this
[14:39] <hajonnes> tomreyn, I'll check it out. Thanks for your help! :)
[14:40] <tomreyn> hajonnes: it is correct according to https://specifications.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-latest.html#recognized-keys
[14:41] <tomreyn> also note that package desktop-file-utils provides the command desktop-file-validate
[14:41] <hajonnes> tomreyn, thanks a lot. I did not find that. :)
[14:42] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[14:42] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: so i think what you need to do is to recover a zfs pool. you should be able to read up on how to do this online.
[14:43] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: Yeah, I encrypted the drive with ZSF.
[14:43] <tomreyn> encryption, too?
[14:43] <SnoopJ> varaindemian, you can install the i386 architecture version of the package (i.e. `python3:i386`), or you could build your own (I like using pyenv for this)
[14:43] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: Was a brand new way to encrypt when 20.10 launched.
[14:43] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: and certainly marked as "experimental"?
[14:44] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: can't recall, but would say no. Would they include experimental features as default options?
[14:45] <tomreyn> not as default, but as experimental features, yes
[14:47] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: ok, googling on how to recover a zfs pool. Thanks!
[14:49] <hajonnes> tomreyn, the desktop-file-validate say "Encoding=" is deprecated, could I just remove it then?
[14:49] <varaindemian> SnoopJ: installed it with sudo apt python3:i386 how can I see that this is what it uses?
[14:50] <hajonnes> tomreyn, I think it is ok.
[14:53] <tomreyn> hajonnes: yes
[14:58] <tomreyn> varaindemian: dpkg -L python3:i386 | grep -E '^(/usr)/s?bin/'   should list executables provided by the package you installed
[14:59] <hajonnes> how can I copy or write a path in to nautilus?
[14:59] <SnoopJ> varaindemian, I'm not sure, I've never done multi-arch, don't even know if you can have multiple arch versions of the same package installed simultaneously.
[15:00] <SnoopJ> I wouldn't recommend trying it even if it's possible, dist-packages is basically designed to explode
[15:00] <tomreyn> hajonnes: Ctrl-L
[15:00] <tomreyn> (lower case L)
[15:02] <tomreyn> hajonnes: btw. it's called GNOME Files now (in case you'll try to find documentation)
[15:02] <matsaman> which you won't be able to with a name like 'files' =)
[15:09] <hajonnes> tomreyn, ok thank you! :) Do you know how to get the icon for a program when I build the .desktop. When I start the program the icon gets engaged and shows (at least before I created the .desktop file) can I somhow see what the program is using. I have tried to search for -iname xmind.ico, png, jpg, swg. but no luck
[15:09] <hajonnes> xmind being the program name.
[15:14] <hajonnes> tomreyn, found some versions of icons. but still, is it possible to see what xmind is using?
[15:19] <wonko[m]> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qxMzztVCNw/
[15:19] <wonko[m]> what is libgstreamer-plugins-bad1.0-0 and why is it being installed?
[15:19] <wonko[m]>  * what is `libgstreamer-plugins-bad1.0-0` and why is it being installed?
[15:24] <SnoopJ> to the first question: 'GStreamer libraries from the "bad" set' https://packages.ubuntu.com/hirsute/libgstreamer-plugins-bad1.0-0 the base/good/bad/ugly division is from gstreamer itself apparently: https://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/documentation/additional/splitup.html
[15:24] <SnoopJ> to the second: dunno, we can't see what command you issued
[15:25] <wonko[m]> apt update/apt upgrade
[15:25] <wonko[m]> removed that with dpkg, now it's happening somewhere else:
[15:25] <wonko[m]> ```
[15:25] <wonko[m]> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/avldrums.lv2-data_5%3a0.4.1_all.deb (--unpack):
[15:25] <wonko[m]>  trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/lv2/avldrums.lv2/Black_Pearl_4_LV2.sf2', which is also in package avldrums.lv2-soundfont 0.4.2~repack1-1```
[15:25]  * wonko[m] sighs
[15:30] <SnoopJ> wonko[m], can you paste the output of `apt show libgstreamer-plugins-bad1.0-0` ?
[15:31] <wonko[m]> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/P5PGShfBny/
[15:31] <SnoopJ> the -dmo4 bit in the version of the installed package makes me wonder if you've gotten the installed version of that package from some other repository and Weird Stuff is afoot
[15:31] <SnoopJ> ah, and so it is
[15:31] <wonko[m]> what the hell is madlinux?
[15:32] <SnoopJ> wonko[m], so as to the "why," that's because apt sees the package in the Ubuntu repositories and wants to upgrade to it
[15:32] <wonko[m]> I remove the madlinux source
[15:32] <wonko[m]> things are much happier now
[15:33] <SnoopJ> 👍
[15:36] <wonko[m]> Ok, not better (but apt is happy)
[15:37] <wonko[m]> Autoremove just broke X
[15:37] <SnoopJ> oh boy
[15:38] <wonko[m]> Yeah, something important got removed and a bunch of very important dependencies went with it
[15:38] <wonko[m]> Ugh
[15:38] <wonko[m]> Is there a way to find out what packages should be installed by default?
[15:41] <ioria> wonko[m], you can check the manifest ( e.g. http://releases.ubuntu.com/20.04/ ) but usually some packages are removed after the install
[15:43] <Guest46> Hello, if anyone has any experience recovering ZFS pools I'd very much appreciate some pointers. Can't boot to Ubuntu 20.10 desktop after unlocking my drive. Thanks!
[15:43] <ioria> wonko[m], or you can try to reinstall the ubuntu-desktop pkg: sudo apt  install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop^   (note the caret); but before hat i'd check the sanity of the system , meaning purge external sources
[15:44] <wonko[m]> Would that be the same meta package name for studio?
[15:45] <ioria> i don't think so...
[15:45] <ioria> i guess is xfce4
[15:45] <wonko[m]> Let me ask ovenwerks
[15:46] <wonko[m]> I'm on 21.04 so plasma
[15:49] <wonko[m]> Ubuntustudio-desktop
[15:49] <wonko[m]> That should have been obvious. 🤣
[15:53] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:56] <alzgh> is there a way one can go through Ubuntu's source without downloading the source repositories? Like through a web frontend.
[15:58] <manuels> hi i have ubuntu server 64 bit on my pi. 64 bit is mandatory for docker aarch64 images. therefore I cant use bluezalso from the raspbian repos. is there a way to make the pi a bluetooth a2dp sink?
[15:58] <tarzeau_> alzgh: debian has that, not sure with ubuntu (but since they sync it, it's pretty much the same, but not exactly)
[15:59] <alzgh> Debian, is good enough for me.
[15:59] <tarzeau_> manin_: there's a way to install arm64 debian on it, but dunno if ubuntu has arm64 images for raspberry yet
[16:00] <tarzeau_> alzgh: example link to browser a source pkg: https://sources.debian.org/src/pt2-clone/1.27+ds-1/
[16:00] <alzgh> Just found this refrence on the front page:
[16:00] <alzgh> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_your_base_are_belong_to_us
[16:01] <alzgh> lmao
[16:01] <alzgh> thanks tarzeau_
[16:01] <tarzeau_> alzgh: wait until you find engrish.com and r/engrish :)
[16:02] <alzgh> O, man. I cant work until I check that :D
[16:07] <gloomy> Hey :-) Is there something similar to gparted but slightly more beginner friendly (ideally something that can check that the current configuration is sensible and identify problems)?
[16:07] <TJ-> gloomy: you're describing gparted :)
[16:07] <ioria> gloomy, you can try gnome-disks
[16:09] <Grems> Terminal emulators: Which ones allow me to limit the number of tabs/windows that are open at the same time, the easiest? E.g. setting the limit at 10, and when I attempt to open #11, this one is immediately closed. (bash- and UTF-8-support are pretty much mandatory)
[16:11] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: is there a way to access the drive from a live Ubuntu boot in order to scrape the data? Considering I can unlock the drive.
[16:11] <pizzaburger> Reading on recovering ZFS pools but that's way over my head.
[16:29] <Merritt> Fresh install of Kubuntu 21.04, splash screen is blank / black while booting until the desktop loads. Not too familiar with.. plymouth I think? All the wikis / articles I found seem outdated and unreliable.
[16:31] <wonko[m]> All fixed, thanks guys!
[17:02] <pizzaburger> Got to importing the zpools but can't figure out how to recover them: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2sppCt3F38/. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks!
[17:02] <mybalzitch> sudo zpool import -f bpool rpool
[17:06] <pizzaburger> mybalzitch: Thanks! Seems the commands worked, trying to reboot to see whether I still have the same error.
[17:09] <pizzaburger> Nope, still at "psmouse serio1: synaptics: unable to qquery device: -5" error after unlocking drive.
[17:13] <logranrun> running ubuntu 20.04, it looks like the ondrive support is integrated into the system. how do I access it. I can see in the control pannel under online accounts I am signed into Microsoft
[17:13] <logranrun> OneDrive I mean
[17:21] <logranrun> so on the control pannel it has "Online Accounts". It looks like google drive is integrated into the file explorer. I am trying to figure out how one drive works since there is a microsoft option, but I don't see the drive mounted anywhere
[17:26] <rfm> logranrun, I installed the "onedrive" package to use it. I seem to remember something about it not working on 20.04, though (I built it from source there.)  On 21.04 it works OK except a compiler bug makes it dump core on exit.  Setting it up is a bit complicated too, read the docs
[17:32] <logranrun> rfm, I am familiar with the ondrive executible
[17:32] <logranrun> but it seems something is built into 20.04
[17:33] <logranrun> I ahave been searching and it doesn't seem like anyone else knows what it does either
[17:33] <rfm> logranrun, I suspect the Microsoft account in settings is for mail and calendar...
[17:34] <logranrun> If you click on it, it seems to support mail and documents
[17:36] <mcon> I seem to remember Ubuntu has facilities to run processes in a container mimicking an older version (I need to run in 16.04) but I cannot remember details. Can someone point me in the right direction?
[17:36] <logranrun> maybe it is just broken in this release or soemthing
[17:37] <logranrun> found something in the manual that says to use a documents app, not sure what that means
[17:37] <oldgalileo> mcon: Pretty sure it's `adapt`?
[17:38] <logranrun> guess i am stuck with onedrive, the down side to that was you basically have to keep a mirror of the onedrive stored locally I think, or at least the part you use
[17:38] <logranrun> adapt?
[17:39] <ioria> i think he's looking for debootstrap and schroot
[17:41] <ioria> mcon,  ^ unless you want to install a vm or lxc
[17:42] <mcon> oldgalileo: No, AFAIK "adapt" makes some old software run in the current distribution. My need is the reverse: I have a build environment (not part of ubuntu distribution) expecting to run under Ubuntu 16.04. It generally works also with current (20.04), but in certain instances fails (e.g.: while compiling some selinux packages).
[17:42] <mcon> Current "solution" is to run in a VirtualBox VM, but that is very heavy.
[17:44] <mcon> I seem to recall there's some Hypervisor expecially tuned to run older Ubuntu releases and that Ubuntu maintains a series of "ready-to-use images. Did I dream?
[17:45] <hajonnes> where can I find infromation about my system, e.g. what firewall is installed @ubuntu 20.04
[17:46] <rfm> mcon, are you thinking of multipass * http://multipass.run )?  Only question is does it have a 16.04 image..
[17:49] <ioria> mcon, https://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Programmazione/DebootstrapChroot
[17:50] <toddc> hajonnes: none I recommend ufw if yu want one
[17:50] <hajonnes> toddc I was thinking of installing firewalld https://firewalld.org/ and wonder if that is frontend of something. It seems that I have ufw installed but inactive.
[17:51] <mcon> ioria: I think lxc was the thing I had in mind. I will look also ay proposed alternatives. THANKS!
[17:51] <mcon> s/ay/at/
[17:51] <hajonnes> toddc though going in to "ubuntu software" it seams I have no marking of ufw being installed and there it says that I can install it.. strange?
[17:52] <toddc> hajonnes: https://www.configserverfirewall.com/ufw-ubuntu-firewall/ubuntu-check-firewall-status-ufw/
[17:59] <tomreyn> hajonnes: since the xmind 'executable' is a likely a .jar file (a java archive, actually a zip archive), there's a good chance you'll find an icon sized image file in it. idally, icons and logos should be in SVG format, but several other formats (such as those you mentioned) will work, too. the .Desktop file can point to an image file you placed on disk. common locations to store such files are /usr/share/icons/ and ~/.local/share/icons/
[17:59] <tomreyn> pizzaburger: i do not know how to recover ZFS pools. chances are someone else here (or in #linux) will know.
[18:21] <carnophage2> hi
[18:22] <tomreyn> hello carnophage2, and welcome to ubuntu (volunteer) support.
[18:26] <pizzaburger> !archive
[18:29] <tomreyn> logranrun: from what i remember, there are two usable onedrive clients available for Linux. Both of which do not immediately provide a GUI (but i think they describe ways to integrate with existing GUIs, such as GNOME Files / Nautilus). The one that's in Ubuntu (also available in never releases from a PPA), and another one. At least the first one is configurable. While it defaults to the 'full mirror' approach you discussed, later versions can
[18:29] <tomreyn> also run in the 'only access over the network' (and maybe also the 'only mirror what's regularly used') approach. The second implementation actually defaults to this approach.
[18:30] <carnophage2> hey tom
[18:31] <carnophage2> i want to set it up
[18:31] <carnophage2> where hexchat starts when i turn on my vm
[18:31] <carnophage2> i run ubuntu
[18:31] <carnophage2> i added hexchat in the startup programs
[18:31] <carnophage2> and it still doesn't start up when i turn on the vm
[18:31] <carnophage2> am i missing an argument or something?
[18:31] <carnophage2> for command i just have "hexchat"
[18:33] <tomreyn> logranrun: first implementation (in ubuntu) and installationa nd configuration details (scroll down) https://github.com/abraunegg/onedrive --- second implementation: https://github.com/skilion/onedrive
[18:33] <tomreyn> !enter | carnophage2
[18:35] <tomreyn> carnophage2: is there a ~/.config/autostart/*exchat*.desktop  file?
[18:36] <tomreyn> carnophage2: the easiest approach for configurring applications you want to autostart is to install GNOME Tweaks ("Tweaks"), run it, go to "Startup Applications" and select the application you want to start.
[18:39] <pizzaburger> tomreyn: Thanks!
[18:39] <pizzaburger> How do I view all the messages from this chat room? Is there an archive?
[18:40] <tomreyn> !irclogs | pizzaburger
[18:40] <hajonnes> I do not find the keyboard layout I want in the settings but it is installed. I can activate it by "setxkbmap eu". How do I make it permanent and how do I select it from the gui @ubutntu 20.04
[18:40] <carnophage2> ubottu ok i did not know.
[18:42] <tomreyn> Merritt: if this is a Kubuntu specific issue (it could be, and I assume it is also "nvidia" driver specific), you may want to ask about it in #kubuntu instead.
[18:44] <tomreyn> hajonnes: this is euskalherria, right?
[18:50] <hajonnes> tomreyn, no it is eurokey https://eurkey.steffen.bruentjen.eu/download.html
[18:50] <hajonnes> sorry eurkey
[18:51] <hajonnes> under "Choose your installation"
[18:52] <tomreyn> i would not strictly expect this to be already packaged
[18:52] <tomreyn> ...in ubuntu
[18:54] <tomreyn> and, at least in ISO-639-1, "eu" is definitely short for "euskal" (basque)
[18:54] <tomreyn> *euskara
[18:54] <tomreyn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ISO_639-1_codes
[19:06] <hajonnes> tomreyn, it is packed in ubuntu. but since it is US keyboard with altGr to make special characters I tried to find it under US. Do you know where it is stored, I tried to search for euskara but could not find anything.
[19:09] <tomreyn> hajonnes: you're saying it's packaged, then you'll know the package name? you can show all the files in a deb package using    dpkg -L <packagename>    and this may hint on how to select it on the GUI.
[19:22] <hajonnes> tomreyn, I'm not sure, "setxkbmap eu" results in the eurkey keyboard layout. So it must exist in some package. it also says on the homepage that it is included in xkeyboard-config 2.12 and newer. But I do not know more than that.
[19:39] <Sayona> Hi, I need some help with VLC on ubuntu, I have two separate windows for display + another one for control.. how I can to be only one windows when I start vlc?
[19:54] <Liblx> Hello, I have closed all apps and terminals using my external drive but I still can't diconnect it safely. Is there a way to find the process using the drive?
[19:56] <kodiak_f> philisophical question.  Better to place /boot on LVM or on a raw partition?  I see pros and cons
[20:09] <TJ-> anyone else noticed that dhclient doesn't send its hostname despite the /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf "send host-name = gethostname();" ?
[20:20] <Simplar> Can I use legacy Unity from Ubuntu 14.04?
[20:25] <leftyfb> Simplar: no, nothing from Ubuntu 14.04 is supported any longer. There is still a maintained Unity project AFAIK though so you should be able to use that
[20:25] <Simplar> What would you recommend by the way in place of unity?
[20:26] <tomreyn> !info ubuntu-unity-desktop
[20:27] <leftyfb> Simplar: I would recommend gnome shell which is the default in ubuntu
[20:27] <tomreyn> it only has community support, though. the default and most supported desktop would be ubuntu-desktop (based on the gnome shell)
[20:27] <leftyfb> Simplar: free free to ask for more opinions in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:27] <leftyfb> feel*
[22:07] <Lutin> hi guys... I'm wondering what resoved uses by default as its (forward) DNS servers... it seems to use my local ISP's ones but I don't see them define anywhere
[22:14] <toddc> Lutin: if we assume you are using default dhcp service DNS is confiured in you router all traffic goes from laptop to router then to the internet and external dns
[22:15] <toddc> Lutin: you can overide any of those settings
[22:16] <Lutin> toddc true...  indeed... can resolved use the rootservers ?
[22:16] <Lutin> toddc yeah I know but didn't thought of DHCP :)
[22:20] <toddc> Lutin: if you change your laptop to say google DNS you will not find other local computers on your network so normally we set DNS at the router level
[22:20] <Lutin> toddc yeah but this is a public VPS... that's why
[22:23] <toddc> Lutin: I like to set all my computers/servers to static IP and gateways routes ect then I do not need dhcp service --more stable
[22:23] <Lutin> toddc yeah I agree but this is pretty solid
[22:24] <Lutin> toddc I wonder how I can make resolved use the rootservers
[22:25] <toddc> edit /etc/netplan/01-netcfg.yaml to your liking
[22:26] <TJ-> Lutin: you should never use the root servers as resolver
[22:26] <Lutin> TJ- why not ? what do you think a real resolver uses ?
[22:27] <Lutin> toddc I was hoping that resolved had those servers in hardcoded
[22:30] <toddc> Lutin:   https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/network-configuration   no --  I agree with TJ- I avoid it/always used a local DNS that forwards to a external
[22:31] <TJ-> root servers provide hints but they're not intended for recursive resolving for clients
[22:32] <TJ-> If it is a VPS then using the ISP's recursive resolvers, or a public service like Cloudflare, Quad9, or similar, is the best option
[22:32] <Lutin> toddc not when you are not in control of the DNS servers... powerdns recursor can fix it also
[22:33] <Lutin> TJ- hints ?
[22:43] <TJ-> use bind as a recursive resolver then it's all yours, no forwarder
[22:48] <hajonnes> is there a place where I can put a setxkbmap command that gets executed on startup? .xinitrc does not work. I think gnome is overriding a lot of stuff.
[22:55] <noarb> in order to print to a CUPS ubuntu server from a separate CUPS service running on both, or is there a smaller client available?
[22:56] <noarb> sorry, kind of gibberish. If an ubuntu server is running CUPs and has a printer attached and shareable, is the full CUPS suite required on clients to print to that server?
[23:14] <BinarySavior> when i get a crash "The application APPNAME has closed unexpectedly" where does it log all the details?
[23:14] <BinarySavior> i would like to attach it to a bug report
[23:39] <Lutin> would it be possible to install bind and make it listen only on localhost ?