[06:09] <jibel> Good morning all
[06:25] <duflu> Hi jibel 
[06:30] <jpnurmi> good morning
[06:38] <jibel> Hi duflu jpnurmi 
[06:39] <duflu> Morning jpnurmi 
[06:40] <jpnurmi> hi jibel and duflu
[06:59] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:13] <jibel> salut oSoMoN 
[07:14] <jpnurmi> hi oSoMoN
[07:14] <oSoMoN> salut jibel, hey jpnurmi 
[07:21] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN 
[07:21] <oSoMoN> hey duflu 
[08:04] <laney> \o
[08:05] <duflu> Hi laney 
[08:07] <schopin> Hello :) I know it's a *bit* late in the cycle, but any chance to get LP: #1912168 looked at before the freeze? :-)
[08:07] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1912168 in ppp (Ubuntu) "Merge ppp 2.4.9" [Low, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1912168
[08:09] <duflu> It would appear you have a few hours to feature freeze, maybe
[08:09] <duflu> Oh hi sil2100 ;)
[08:11] <schopin> well my bit is already done, now I need to get someone with proper upload rights to look at it. And since it seems to be a Desktop package (???) I figured I'd ask around here :)
[08:13] <laney> schopin: i'll look for ye
[08:14] <laney> hey duflu 
[08:16] <schopin> laney: thanks :) much appreciated!
[08:23] <sil2100> Hello o/
[08:29] <laney> hey sil2100 
[08:41] <laney> ah reviewing merges
[08:41] <laney> what fun it is
[08:43] <schopin> laney: you want a diff against the debian version?
[08:44] <laney> schopin: as a reviewer you basically need the three way diff, but since you uploaded to a PPA I could make it
[08:44] <laney> myself
[08:46] <juliank> schopin: debdiffing across upstreams is a bit ... complicated
[08:46] <juliank> schopin: so for future, if you want to debdiff merges, debdiffing against debian is probably best (especially if its a new upstream version)
[08:47] <laney> It's like: what did we have before, what does the new thing drop compared to that, is that all good?
[08:47] <juliank> schopin: Then people can grab the debian package, extract it, apply the patch and do the 3-way diff
[08:47] <laney> git-ubuntu would probably be nicest but it's not really widely adopted yet
[08:47] <schopin> In other merges I provided both diffs. Dunno why I stopped doing that :/
[08:47] <juliank> laney: So yeah what I do is debdiff old-debian old-ubuntu > a.diff && debdiff new-debian new-ubuntu > b.diff && diff a.diff b.diff | less
[08:48] <laney> HAHA you do not diff two diffs
[08:48] <schopin> laney: I'm not sure how to use git-ubuntu for such cases, though.
[08:48] <laney> that is mad
[08:48] <juliank> laney: I diff two diffs, yes
[08:48] <juliank> laney: I find it more readable than interdiff
[08:48] <laney> I just put them side by side and read them
[08:48] <juliank> Despite interdiff being for diffing diffs
[08:48] <laney> interdiff didn't work for me either
[08:48] <laney> schopin: I think you can create Launchpad merge proposals using it
[08:48] <laney> I've reviewed a few of those, but not actually made one myself
[08:49] <laney> it's more standardised in the server team, others not so much yet
[08:49] <laney> but lets the reviewer come up with all these views they want, so it's nice in that sense
[08:49] <juliank> With git-ubuntu you create a merge proposal against the debian branch which is a bit icky
[08:49] <juliank> technical limitations :D
[08:49] <laney> I'll take that
[08:50] <juliank> proper procedure with rebasing and splitting out individual changes is hard :D
[08:50] <schopin> what I don't get is that the git-ubuntu history is produced by importing the packages, right? So what happens if we push to the repo?
[08:50] <laney> schopin: anyway, on this: two comments: merge-o-matic (dpkg-mergechangelogs) creates a blank line at the end of the merged changelog, you need to remove that
[08:50] <laney> second, you correctly dropped the patch from the series but it's still in the source
[08:50] <laney> I'll fix up both of those and upload
[08:50] <laney> cheers!
[08:50] <schopin> thanks!
[08:51] <laney> I don't *think* you can push to the actual repo
[08:51] <laney> I generated the pkg and uploaded it normally, then the importer picked it up
[08:52] <laney> maybe you can
[09:01] <schopin> So the merge proposal ends up being manually closed?
[09:02] <laney> schopin: maybe do your next one this way and we can experiment :p
[09:03] <schopin> sure :D
[09:07] <laney> schopin: actually wait, I just realised - we stopped producing udebs at all, so we can probably drop that bit too
[09:08] <laney> shall I make that change?
[09:09] <schopin> I'm not entirely clear about the udeb business but I saw no-change uploads to drop those so I figured it was a build-time thing.
[09:09] <schopin> laney: be my guest.
[09:11] <schopin> I'm guessing it would be worth it to upstream to Debian a patch to use build profiles to disable the udeb?
[09:11] <laney> schopin: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-buildd/+bug/1884836 bit of info there
[09:11] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1884836 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Hirsute+ should stop building and publishing udebs" [Undecided, New]
[09:12] <laney> https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-package-type <- adding that would be good
[09:13] <laney> I don't know if Dimitri ever tried to upstream any of that
[09:14] <schopin> In some of my merge/sync work I saw some !noudeb patches merged in Debian so I'm guessing there's at least some support for it there.
[09:15] <laney> the profile exists in general, right - so you can key on that in the rules file to avoid building stuff which won't be shipped
[09:16] <laney> or you can keep building it and then just not actually produce the .udeb, looks like that's what happens here
[09:18] <laney> god colordiff is so useful
[09:19]  * laney isn't a diff reading wizard like juliank, need tools like that
[09:20] <schopin> I don't know what colordiff is, but I know that gitdelta has really helped me when reading git diffs.
[09:23] <laney> +1
[09:23] <laney> it's just a colouriser which you can pipe diffs into e.g. from debdiff, like `git diff` has out of the box
[09:23] <laney> felt like praising it :>
[09:26] <juliank> laney: So I use alias diff='git diff --no-index --no-prefix'
[09:26] <juliank> git-diff surprisingly can diff stuff outside git repos
[09:27] <laney> that is surprising!
[09:36] <bigon> TIL
[10:16] <rbasak> laney, schopin: you cannot push to the git-ubuntu repo. However there's a plan to allow everyone to provide their "rich history" back to git-ubuntu at upload time. That actually landed earlier this week, but I have yet to test it and announce.
[10:16] <rbasak> That's to "preserve your rich history". Apart from that, git-ubuntu should be completely useable for Ubuntu package merges for packages in main.
[10:16] <laney> rbasak: Great
[10:17] <schopin> rbasak: as long as you're here and speaking of git-ubuntu, could you have a look at the notmuch imports ? They seem to be stuck on focal.
[10:18] <schopin> (not the right channel, but this is a crime of opportunity)
[10:19] <rbasak> I can see they're behind. Looking into why.
[11:49] <laney> oh a delta in glib2.0, how delightful
[11:51] <GunnarHj> laney: Seb's answer to my simple version question became 'big news'.
[11:51] <GunnarHj> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-21.10-With-GNOME-40
[11:52] <laney> that's working in the open!
[11:52] <GunnarHj> yeah..
[11:53] <laney> hmm, what else can we get in the news ...
[11:54] <GunnarHj> :)
[12:20] <rbasak> schopin: so the reason notmuch wasn't updating is that someone imported it manually without adding it to the whitelist to keep it up to date.
[12:20] <rbasak> I'll sort that for you now
[12:20] <rbasak> (as of last week the whitelist is defunct and the importer will keep anything already imported up-to-date automatically)
[12:51] <schopin> rbasak: OK, thank you for looking into it :)
[15:24] <ricotz> hi, do I need to file a FFe for libreoffice 7.2.0 while it won't be ready today?
[16:01] <laney> probably!
[16:04] <ricotz> laney, I have successful PPA build which autopkgtests passed, execept for arm
[16:04] <ricotz> so uploading this one now, would safe from that work ;)
[16:05] <laney> only if you consider the feature freeze to be a bureaucratic thing to be worked around
[16:05] <laney> I'd rather you thought of the best thing for Ubuntu
[16:05] <ricotz> yeah, I have a running build with an arm fix which hopefully resolves the issues
[16:06] <ricotz> I will file a FFe
[16:30] <ricotz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1940556
[16:30] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1940556 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Impish) "FFe: libreofice 7.2.0 for impish" [High, In Progress]
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