[00:01] <daftykins> wow that duck looks like a famous composer perhaps
[15:49] <Safiyyah> Hi all I have a new dell inspiron that I am putting ubuntu Mate into
[15:49] <Safiyyah> I have installed the updates in windows
[15:50] <Safiyyah> for the firmware, is there anything else I am missing before I move into ubuntu with it?
[17:28] <daftykins> depends if the installer will see the drive
[17:39] <Safiyyah> I can get my external HDD to be picked up
[17:39] <Safiyyah> by either latop actually
[17:42] <daftykins> can't? what type is it, something natively USB?
[17:47] <Safiyyah> daftykins, it is a western digital
[17:47] <Safiyyah> USB external drive
[17:48] <Safiyyah> external HDD
[17:48] <daftykins> is it spinning up when you plug it in?
[17:48] <Safiyyah> it has a little light that comes on
[17:48] <Safiyyah> no problem
[17:50] <daftykins> so you want to see if programs can see it in a terminal first, try "sudo fdisk -l" and see if it spots the other drive
[17:57] <safiyyah_> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/YHJqMKmr23/
[17:59] <daftykins> hmm nope no second drive, how about the output of "lsusb" and the last screen's worth of output from "dmesg" ? 
[18:03] <safiyyah_> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/8QSV3MxchR/
[18:03] <daftykins> ah it's the end of dmesg i'm really keen to see so i think that's just the earliest slice, if you broke from it with ctrl+C
[18:04] <daftykins> i'd ordinarily say "dmesg | tail" but it might have happened a bit earlier and not show the part i'm looking for
[18:05] <safiyyah_> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/RFkbMgpVQF/
[18:06] <daftykins> mmm no drive there
[18:06] <daftykins> wouldn't hurt to take a toothbrush to the USB connector from the HDD to make sure the data pins aren't dirty and somehow stopping both from seeing it
[18:07] <Safiyyah> i hvae gone to plug it into the windows desktop
[18:14] <safiyyah_> while I wait, is there a reason why my USB stick needs 5 hours to dave 30gb of datA?
[18:14] <daftykins> depends if the data is all small files, cheap ones are very slow
[18:15] <Safiyyah> Is there a way to plug laptop A into laptop B and get the data out directly?
[18:16] <daftykins> could be an option if both laptops have wired LAN to plug a network cable between them, give each of them a static IP address, then you could copy data direct via scp
[18:16] <daftykins> WiFi would be too slow
[18:17] <Safiyyah> only the old one has a LAN
[18:17] <daftykins> :<
[18:19] <safiyyah_> I am fed up
[18:20] <safiyyah_> I will decide what to do
[18:20] <safiyyah_> might have to get another external HDD
[18:20] <safiyyah_> let me eat and regain my energy