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[07:09] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers, happy Friday!
[07:10] <jibel> Good morning oSoMoN 
[07:11] <oSoMoN> salut jibel 
[07:15] <duflu_> Morning oSoMoN and jibel 
[07:15] <oSoMoN> hey duflu_ 
[07:16] <jibel> Hey duflu_ 
[07:42] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[07:49] <oSoMoN> welcome back seb128 
[07:52] <oSoMoN> seb128, could you please unblock thunderbird from the impish queue? there's a new binary package that needs accepting (thunderbird-locale-lv)
[07:54] <seb128> oSoMoN, hey, thanks, thunderbird bin accepted. 91 is the new stable? (just wondering if I should move the snap to it)
[07:55] <jibel> Salut seb128 
[07:55] <seb128> lut jibel!
[08:04] <laney> yo
[08:05] <ricotz> good morning everyone :)
[08:05] <laney> heya
[08:06] <duflu> Morning seb128, ricotz, laney 
[08:07] <seb128> hey laney, ricotz, duflu , happy friday! how are you?
[08:08] <duflu> seb128, going well. How are you?
[08:12] <laney> hey duflu hey seb128 
[08:12] <laney> doing well, looking forward to a week off ;-)
[08:17] <seb128> duflu, I'm great thanks
[08:18] <seb128> laney, oh right, it's your turn :) anything fancy for the holidays?
[08:18] <ricotz> I am looking forward to have libreoffice 7.2.0 ready :)
[08:18] <laney> going to wales
[08:18] <laney> some time by the sea!
[08:18] <laney> that counts as fancy I think
[08:18] <ricotz> seb128, I hope you had a nice time off
[08:18] <seb128> ricotz, I had thanks!
[08:19] <ricotz> great
[08:19] <seb128> I missed ff though and sounds like others didn't pick up doing 41 updates, let's see if there are some worth doing with a ffe now
[08:23] <duflu> I can't think of any GNOME 41 fixes we need immediately but after they have spent more time maturing might recommend cherry picks to 40 later
[08:23] <oSoMoN> seb128, yes, 91 is the new firefox ESR, and thus the new thunderbird stable
[08:23] <seb128> oSoMoN, hum, I build thunderbird 91.0.1 to candidate but sounds like it fails to use existing profiles and start with a create account? is that known to you?
[08:24] <seb128> duflu, the new power profiles handling could be interesting
[08:25] <oSoMoN> seb128, it could be because of this: "Thunderbird 91 is only offered as direct download from thunderbird.net and not as an upgrade from Thunderbird version 78 or earlier. A future release will provide updates from earlier versions."
[08:26] <seb128> oSoMoN, I need to try if the deb in proposed has the same isssue
[08:26] <seb128> we should probably hold the update if that's the case?
[08:27] <oSoMoN> yes, I must admit I didn't test that, and we should probably hold the update indeed
[08:27] <oSoMoN> let me test this on my side
[08:27] <ricotz> yeah, afair there is a profile change, and an direct upgrade is not possible yet
[08:28] <oSoMoN> IIRC the same happened when the 68->78 transition happened, profile upgrade was enabled in a later point release
[08:29] <ricotz> better go with 78.14.0 for now
[08:29] <oSoMoN> for stable releases for sure, but I still think it's valuable to have 91 in impish-proposed, to get it some testing
[08:30] <oSoMoN> assuming/hoping that the point release that enables profile upgrades will be out before final freeze
[08:30] <ricotz> that is reasonable, but if the upgrade path is not available in 91.1.0 this gets tight
[08:31] <duflu> seb128, enhancements like that are usually problematic because you know GNOME developers like adding new dependencies, even on packages we don't have yet
[08:31] <ricotz> https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/91.0/releasenotes/
[08:31] <duflu> As an example, mutter-41 requires a version of glib we don't have in impish yet
[08:31] <duflu> or ever
[08:32] <seb128> duflu, right, which is why I said 'could'. We already have the daemon and the settings UI in since previous cycle though so it's just an iteration over existing code
[08:34] <seb128> ricotz, oSoMoN, we can always keep 91 to proposed and delete later if it turns out there will me no migration before release, but there is still time to decide
[08:35] <oSoMoN> seb128, that sounds like a plan, can you remind me how we request a package to remain blocked in proposed?
[08:35] <seb128> oSoMoN, open a bug tagged block-proposed
[08:36] <ricotz> seb128, oSoMoN, acked :)
[08:38] <ricotz> laney, regarding vala 0.52 -- valabind should work with a simple no-change rebuild while it build-deps on "libvala-dev"
[08:39] <ricotz> laney, I have pushed fixes for anjuta to the upstream git, but as it looks like it fails due to bison changes
[08:39] <laney> this is the kind of testing I was asking about
[08:40] <Wimpy> Morning o/
[08:40] <laney> peace Wimpy 
[08:41] <ricotz> laney, anjuta is not on my radar anymore, not sure if it should be considered superseeded by gnome-builder
[08:41] <ricotz> and therefore dropped? :\
[08:42] <ricotz> I assume this anjuta failure came up in the archive rebuilds
[08:44] <duflu> Hi Wimpy 
[08:45] <oSoMoN> ricotz, seb128: I tested the 78.13.0 -> 91.0 upgrade path in an impish VM, and my existing profile was correctly used
[08:46] <oSoMoN> so we might not need a block after all?
[08:46] <Wimpy> Hey duflu , laney 
[08:46] <oSoMoN> or better to play it safe and follow upstream's lead on upgrades
[08:47] <laney> ricotz: well that's why we have tools to find all reverse deps
[08:48] <oSoMoN> ricotz, seb128: bug #1940631
[08:48] <ubottu> Bug 1940631 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "Keep thunderbird 91 in impish-proposed until a point release enables profile upgrades" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1940631
[08:52] <oSoMoN> seb128, you missed a couple of messages, let me copy them here for you:
[08:52] <oSoMoN> « I tested the 78.13.0 -> 91.0 upgrade path in an impish VM, and my existing profile was correctly used »
[08:52] <oSoMoN> « so we might not need a block after all? »
[08:53] <oSoMoN> « or better to play it safe and follow upstream's lead on upgrades »
[08:53] <oSoMoN> «  bug #1940631 »
[08:53] <ubottu> Bug 1940631 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "Keep thunderbird 91 in impish-proposed until a point release enables profile upgrades" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1940631
[08:53] <oSoMoN> I wonder why your existing profile wasn't reused with the snap
[08:54] <seb128> oSoMoN, thanks
[08:55] <seb128> oSoMoN, is there a flag that would display debug info? -h isn't helpftul
[09:00] <oSoMoN> seb128, you can open the console from the tools > development tools menu
[09:03] <ricotz> oSoMoN, I guess upstream knows about some edge cases which don't work yet
[09:03] <seb128> oSoMoN, I've an error 'Unexpected event profile-after-change' at the start of the log
[09:03] <seb128> dunno if that's related
[09:04] <seb128> oSoMoN, could you try if the candidate snap correctly use your existing profile?
[09:07] <seb128> oSoMoN, also 'SearchSettings: get: No settings file exists, new profile? DOMException: Could not open the file at /home/seb128/snap/thunderbird/common/.thunderbird/vzdlnx4x.default-release/search.json.mozlz4'
[09:09] <oSoMoN> the  'Unexpected event profile-after-change' error seems unrelated, as I'm seeing it too
[09:09] <oSoMoN> the second one might be related though, I'm not seeing it here
[09:09] <oSoMoN> trying the snap now
[09:10] <seb128> it's not my profile
[09:11] <seb128> I removed .thunderbird, install the snap from stable, set up a simple email account then upgraded to candidate and still no profile
[09:13] <GunnarHj> Hi seb128, welcome back!
[09:13] <GunnarHj> seb128: As regards bug #1927149 I've struggled with two upstreams, but wasn't very successful. For now I think we should edit the POT for snap-store-desktop and upload it manually to LP to not expose all those strings to the translators.
[09:13] <ubottu> Bug 1927149 in snap-store-desktop "Irrelevant translatable strings" [High, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1927149
[09:14] <seb128> GunnarHj, hey, editing seems fine to me yes
[09:15] <seb128> oSoMoN, well it's weird, the profile in that error is a new dir and not the one existing from the stable version ... anyway, don't let me sidetrack you with that, you have enough things on your plates already
[09:16] <GunnarHj> seb128: I can edit but not upload to that project. Can you do that if I provide a modified POT?
[09:17] <seb128> yes
[09:18] <GunnarHj> Ok, back a bit later.
[09:18] <seb128> GunnarHj, email it to meand I will handle once I'm done with other things in the backlog
[09:18] <seb128> thx
[09:18] <oSoMoN> seb128, I'm seeing the same as you with the snap, and I wonder if it's related to the problem I'm seeing with the firefox snap where imported profiles aren't being used because the profile directory name contains a hash of the executable's dirname, which in the case of the snap changes with each revision?
[09:19] <oSoMoN> I haven't got to the bottom of that issue yet, will let you know when I have a better understanding of it
[09:21] <seb128> oSoMoN, ack, thanks
[13:47] <oSoMoN> seb128, with Tre_vinho out today and du_flu on week-end already, who can look at bug #1940657 ?
[13:47] <ubottu> Bug 1940657 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Cannot type in address bar nor page content in live session" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1940657
[13:48] <schopin> fyi I'm the bug reporter, if you need more info.
[15:09] <oSoMoN> seb128, I know what's going on with the thunderbird snap not re-using the existing profiles: there is some code in nsToolkitProfileService to detect if the application is packaged as a snap, and in such a case skip the hash thing I was mentioning earlier. This works well for firefox, not so much for thunderbird, because the code hardcodes "firefox" as the snap name to check… I'll file a bug and submit a patch upstream
[15:10] <oSoMoN> (see https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/tip/toolkit/profile/nsToolkitProfileService.cpp#l2032)
[15:24] <laney> lol
[15:33] <ricotz> hellsworth, hi, there is libreoffice 7.2.0 in libreoffice-prereleases if you like to check it out
[15:34] <ricotz> laney, hi, is this FFe sufficient? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1940556
[15:34] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1940556 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Impish) "FFe: libreoffice 7.2.0 for impish" [High, In Progress]
[15:35] <ricotz> I will make sure to run autopkgtest on the successful ppa build before uploading
[15:35] <oSoMoN> seb128, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1726808
[15:35] <ubottu> Mozilla bug 1726808 in Toolkit "nsToolkitProfileService::IsSnapEnvironment() hardcodes 'firefox' instead of checking against MOZ_APP_NAME" [--, Unconfirmed]
[15:42] <hellsworth> ricotz: i tested it yesterday or the day before. looks really nice to me
[15:42] <hellsworth> also there's 7.2 snap in edge but the fonts are ugly on impish only, wayland only. needs investigation likely next week.
[16:05] <oSoMoN> seb128, and I submitted https://phabricator.services.mozilla.com/D123239
[16:57] <seb128> oSoMoN, thanks for the thunderbird debugging!
[16:59] <seb128> oSoMoN, the shell thing I don't know but if it's live session only it can probably wait next week, I would have suggested L_aney maybe otherwise but it's late on a friday now
[17:13] <laney> see you folks
[17:13] <laney> ricotz: sorry, I'm off now, you should be able to get someone else to review
[21:14] <jawn-smith> If anyone's still around at this hour on a Friday: desktop installer images are built with live-build, correct?