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lubot | [telegram] <Halis> @kgvarunkanth 😘 | 07:17 |
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lubot | [telegram] <kgvarunkanth> 🤪🤪🤪 (re @Halis: @kgvarunkanth 😘) | 07:18 |
JoeLlama | I *love* lubuntu but I can't get it to recognize the wifi card in my dell inspiron 910 (mini-9) | 09:21 |
JoeLlama | what's the trick please? | 09:21 |
* JoeLlama already did ther google thing | 09:22 | |
JoeLlama | tried installing bcmwl-kernel-source | 09:23 |
JoeLlama | but I got a dependency error and when I tried to install that dependency I got another error something about it might be obsolete? | 09:23 |
JoeLlama | I would like to avoid buying a USB wifi for it | 09:24 |
* JoeLlama waits for a response :) | 09:24 | |
lubot | [telegram] <tbs61> Bro | 09:27 |
lubot | [telegram] <tbs61> Joellama | 09:27 |
lubot | [telegram] <tbs61> I guess this question is to ask ubuntu channel. | 09:27 |
lubot | [telegram] <tbs61> Also i hope u searched solution at web for ubuntu, not lubuntu | 09:28 |
JoeLlama | ok | 09:28 |
JoeLlama | thanks | 09:28 |
TJ- | JoeLlama: sounds like a build issue. Does the PC have a wired Ethernet connection it can use whilst you're solving the issue? | 09:30 |
JoeLlama | TJ- ... well... my wifi cards work with xubuntu on these machines but... they are very small computers and lubuntu seems to work better | 09:37 |
JoeLlama | i386 | 09:37 |
JoeLlama | so I use 18.04.5 I think | 09:37 |
JoeLlama | but for some reason they do not recognize the cards | 09:38 |
JoeLlama | dunno | 09:38 |
JoeLlama | would like to save these little computers they are neat :) | 09:38 |
JoeLlama | I think they use BMC4312 | 09:38 |
JoeLlama | for wifi not sure | 09:38 |
JoeLlama | lubuntu also does not recognize my intel wifi cards in the dell 1720 | 09:39 |
JoeLlama | TJ- | 09:39 |
JoeLlama | and also it's as little difficult to ask the people at the coffee shop to let me plug straight into their router *grin* | 09:39 |
JoeLlama | so it's a lubuntu thing not an ubuntu or xubuntu thing | 09:40 |
JoeLlama | dunno why... just is | 09:40 |
TJ- | JoeLlama: hmmmm... the desktop you use should have no impact on hardware support | 09:43 |
TJ- | JoeLlama: is this from fresh installs, or adding multiple desktop environments to the same install? | 09:44 |
JoeLlama | dunno TJ- I run this same box with xubuntu and it finds the wifi just fine... | 09:44 |
JoeLlama | when I check for wifi hardware in lubuntu it can't find it | 09:44 |
JoeLlama | just something with lubuntu and these boxes I guess... dunno | 09:45 |
TJ- | JoeLlama: yes, but /how/ are you running Xubuntu? From its ISO? installed? | 09:45 |
JoeLlama | yes | 09:45 |
TJ- | JoeLlama: lubuntu/xubuntu/ubuntu/kubuntu are just skins. The underlying hardware support and kernels is the same | 09:45 |
TJ- | yes to what? yes, from the ISO as a Live environment? | 09:45 |
JoeLlama | I sintall from an ISO to the SSD | 09:48 |
JoeLlama | and run from the SSD | 09:48 |
JoeLlama | works with xubuntu doesn't with lubuntu... lubuntu doesn't find the wifi card | 09:48 |
JoeLlama | perhaps it's a mystery that will never be solved. | 09:48 |
JoeLlama | tried many ways | 09:49 |
JoeLlama | something about the dell inspiron 1720 a and the inspiron 910 that lubuntu just doesn't like about the wifi cards | 09:49 |
JoeLlama | it just doesn't see them | 09:49 |
JoeLlama | again running 18.04.5 | 09:49 |
JoeLlama | will lubuntu support i286 in the future (btw?)? | 09:50 |
JoeLlama | I have a number of decent i386 boxes I would like to keep them running for another 10 or 12 years if possible | 09:50 |
JoeLlama | TJ- :) | 09:50 |
TJ- | JoeLlama: the xubuntu version you use, is it also 18.04.5 ? | 09:55 |
JoeLlama | yes | 09:55 |
TJ- | JoeLlama: so the same hardware support is available in both xubuntu and lubuntu | 09:55 |
JoeLlama | or 20.04 on the 1720 (amd64) | 09:56 |
JoeLlama | yes same boxes | 09:56 |
JoeLlama | I can only use i386 on the mini-9 | 09:56 |
TJ- | the only difference is in the default installed packages. I suspect the difference is in pre-installing the tools required to build the BRCM module | 09:56 |
JoeLlama | intel atom CPU :) single core 2 thread I think | 09:56 |
JoeLlama | oh? | 09:57 |
JoeLlama | hrm how do I fix that? | 09:57 |
TJ- | JoeLlama: you have the problem system running lubuntu right now? | 09:57 |
JoeLlama | well yeah | 09:58 |
JoeLlama | there are more than one | 09:58 |
JoeLlama | I have a lot of computers laying around | 09:58 |
JoeLlama | but yeah there is one sitting next to me | 09:59 |
TJ- | so can you connect one of them via wired Ethernet so we can grab some info from it? | 09:59 |
JoeLlama | I ran a command to find the hardware but it can't find it... it finds and used the 10baseT port just fine | 09:59 |
JoeLlama | and surf and everything on it | 09:59 |
JoeLlama | just not the wifi | 09:59 |
JoeLlama | oh no not near the router atm | 09:59 |
JoeLlama | only the air waves :/ | 09:59 |
TJ- | JoeLlama: so it can reach Internet right now? | 09:59 |
JoeLlama | no it can't find the wifi remember? (: | 10:00 |
TJ- | JoeLlama: Plug it in! | 10:00 |
JoeLlama | I am on a dell inspiron atm over wifi using xubuntu | 10:00 |
lubot | [telegram] <tbs61> XD | 10:00 |
JoeLlama | on um... I only have air waves atm TJ- | 10:00 |
JoeLlama | the router is some distance from me | 10:01 |
TJ- | JoeLlama: let us know when you've connected one of the problem PCs via Ethernet and it can reach the Internet | 10:01 |
lubot | [telegram] <tbs61> U may Try it with ur phone, share wifi from ur phone and see if lubuntu see it | 10:01 |
lubot | [telegram] <tbs61> So u can understand if wifi works | 10:02 |
JoeLlama | hrm I will try TJ- | 10:02 |
JoeLlama | I find other people who somehow install the drivers using apt-get but it doesn't work for me | 10:02 |
TJ- | tbs61 that's pointless; we know Wifi hardware drivers are not built | 10:03 |
JoeLlama | but they are not on the mini-8 | 10:03 |
JoeLlama | hrm? | 10:03 |
JoeLlama | what is tbs61 TJ-? | 10:04 |
TJ- | JoeLlama: Until you've connected the problem system to wired Ethernet everything else is a complete waste of time. The system needs to fetch and install dependent packages in order to successfully build the kernel module that will operate the wifi chipset | 10:04 |
TJ- | JoeLlama: the other option is to use apt-offline but based on what I've seen so far that is beyond you | 10:04 |
JoeLlama | oh okay there was a package it needed but wouldn't install saying it may be obsolete or something | 10:04 |
JoeLlama | dmsk or dmks or something | 10:05 |
JoeLlama | well yeah I am still kinda new to linux really | 10:05 |
JoeLlama | I just couldn't stomach windows for internet anymore | 10:05 |
JoeLlama | but I've done pretty well actually :) I seem to get everything on xubuntu working just fine | 10:06 |
JoeLlama | in fact, I am running an IRC client under wine right now | 10:06 |
JoeLlama | with a LOT of windows open on many irc networks | 10:06 |
JoeLlama | I do have an issue with SSL under wine however.. know much about that TJ-? | 10:07 |
JoeLlama | it's a known issue | 10:07 |
JoeLlama | the dell mini-9 only has 2GB ram so... it runs xubuntu but I really want to run lubuntu on them... I like it :) | 10:08 |
TJ- | JoeLlama: why chose Linux then run Windows programs?! | 10:09 |
TJ- | there are many IRC clients in Linux | 10:09 |
JoeLlama | I have been using this client since the 90's | 10:10 |
TJ- | mIRC I presume | 10:10 |
JoeLlama | I paid 20 USD for it | 10:10 |
JoeLlama | yup yup | 10:10 |
JoeLlama | I like it, it does everything I want mostly | 10:10 |
TJ- | DKMS is required to build the kernel module for the BRCN | 10:11 |
TJ- | BRCM | 10:11 |
TJ- | Dynamic Kernel Module Support == DKMS | 10:11 |
JoeLlama | oh? | 10:11 |
JoeLlama | ok well I tried to install it but it had an error | 10:11 |
JoeLlama | woops | 10:13 |
JoeLlama | heh forgot I was talking with you TJ- | 10:14 |
JoeLlama | well didn't forget but logged off the server and forgot you were here | 10:14 |
JoeLlama | I will make note of DKMS and work on that tomorrow when I am plugged in | 10:15 |
JoeLlama | the only real issue with xubuntu and ubuntu is I can't seem to make the browsers work | 10:15 |
JoeLlama | there is a lot of memory leaks for one thing | 10:15 |
JoeLlama | and the browser locks up for periods of time sometimes locking the whole system up | 10:16 |
JoeLlama | I got it working once really well but I had to reinstall after the display driver install borked :/ | 10:16 |
JoeLlama | nvidia hasn't fixed the issue yet dunno if they ever will | 10:16 |
JoeLlama | I Think with 18.04 on | 10:17 |
lubot | [telegram] <Halis> İ do not want to be unpolite, but are not these to many messages? | 10:17 |
JoeLlama | well... kinda gave up on that issue for now | 10:17 |
JoeLlama | using two computers for the time being | 10:17 |
lubot | [telegram] <Halis> People can not read all of them | 10:17 |
lubot | [telegram] <Halis> Solution to your problem was already posted | 10:18 |
JoeLlama | is lubot a bridge between channels TJ-? | 10:18 |
JoeLlama | well... I will leave you be TJ- you are probably getting tired of me :) | 10:18 |
JoeLlama | I will look up the error on that DKMS install | 10:19 |
JoeLlama | tomorrow :) | 10:19 |
lubot | [telegram] <Halis> 👍 | 10:19 |
TJ- | JoeLlama: It is linking to some telegram thing | 10:19 |
JoeLlama | oh ok | 10:19 |
JoeLlama | I might be fixing a ferris wheel tomorrow :) a 100 footer | 10:20 |
JoeLlama | it's what I do irl | 10:20 |
JoeLlama | floats my boat | 10:20 |
JoeLlama | i hav no life | 10:20 |
TJ- | Dont get stuck at the top! | 10:20 |
JoeLlama | o k time to go thanks for the help TJ- | 10:20 |
JoeLlama | heh I'll try not to but I like sitting up there with my camera | 10:20 |
JoeLlama | okay thanks again bye for now (: | 10:21 |
lubot | [telegram] <metpr> Hi lubuntu fans , i m noob new to the linux , and somehow successfully installed Lubuntu 20.04 in old age dead pc , its only 1 gb ram dual core cpu , thanks to lubuntu creators you are awesome never expected this smoothness. | 17:30 |
lubot | [telegram] <metpr> But , i had some issue while formatting my bootable-usb and now it became raw usb or something that system can't recognise it . | 17:30 |
lubot | [telegram] <metpr> Is there anyone who can help regarding this , i tried finding it in terminal by some commands but still no hope | 17:30 |
lubot | [telegram] <metpr> I tried kde and gparted as well couldn't find my pendrive there as well | 17:30 |
lubot | [telegram] <Halis> Does your PC have İnternet connection? | 17:31 |
lubot | [telegram] <metpr> Yes | 17:31 |
lubot | [telegram] <metpr> https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/347893d1/file_3192.jpg | 17:31 |
lubot | [telegram] <Halis> You can try to install third party drivers | 17:31 |
lubot | [telegram] <metpr> From suggestion of someone i tired 1 command and found this (re @metpr: ) | 17:31 |
lubot | [telegram] <Halis> What does lsblk show? | 17:31 |
lubot | [telegram] <metpr> Nothing (re @Halis: What does lsblk show?) | 17:31 |
lubot | [telegram] <metpr> It shows my drive only (re @Halis: What does lsblk show?) | 17:32 |
lubot | [telegram] <Halis> Hardware defect possible? | 17:32 |
lubot | [telegram] <metpr> Nahh | 17:32 |
lubot | [telegram] <Halis> You installed lubuntu with it, right? | 17:32 |
lubot | [telegram] <Halis> And it is still in the same USB slot? | 17:33 |
lubot | [telegram] <metpr> Its new usb , i think when i was formatting my bootable-usb , there must be some problem happened (re @metpr: ) | 17:33 |
lubot | [telegram] <metpr> Nope (re @Halis: You installed lubuntu with it, right?) | 17:34 |
lubot | [telegram] <metpr> I installed from another | 17:34 |
lubot | [telegram] <metpr> Usb | 17:34 |
lubot | [telegram] <Halis> So it did work before? (re @metpr: Its new usb , i think when i was formatting my bootable-usb , there must be some problem happened) | 17:35 |
lubot | [telegram] <Halis> And you format it, and now it does not appear anymore | 17:36 |
lubot | [telegram] <Halis> Correct? | 17:36 |
lubot | [telegram] <metpr> Yes , it was working (re @Halis: So it did work before?) | 17:37 |
lubot | [telegram] <metpr> Yup (re @Halis: And you format it, and now it does not appear anymore) | 17:37 |
lubot | [telegram] <Halis> Can you make a screenshot of kde partition manager? | 17:38 |
lubot | [telegram] <metpr> Let me turn on system just 1 min | 17:38 |
lubot | [telegram] <metpr> https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/f549f4e8/file_3193.jpg | 17:42 |
lubot | [telegram] <metpr> Pendrive is connected * | 17:42 |
lubot | [telegram] <Halis> İs it connected to the same USB in which you format it? | 18:30 |
lubot | [telegram] <Halis> İf yes, İ can not help you | 18:33 |
lubot | [telegram] <Halis> İ do not see a way, how formating would make your USB drive invisible | 18:34 |
lubot | [telegram] <Halis> İ would say hardware defective | 18:34 |
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