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[07:17] <lubot> [telegram] <Halis> @kgvarunkanth 😘
[07:18] <lubot> [telegram] <kgvarunkanth> 🤪🤪🤪 (re @Halis: @kgvarunkanth 😘)
[09:21] <JoeLlama> I *love* lubuntu but I can't get it to recognize the wifi card in my dell inspiron 910 (mini-9)
[09:21] <JoeLlama> what's the trick please?
[09:22]  * JoeLlama already did ther google thing
[09:23] <JoeLlama> tried installing bcmwl-kernel-source
[09:23] <JoeLlama> but I got a dependency error and when I tried to install that dependency I got another error something about it might be obsolete?
[09:24] <JoeLlama> I would like to avoid buying a USB wifi for it
[09:24]  * JoeLlama waits for a response :)
[09:27] <lubot> [telegram] <tbs61> Bro
[09:27] <lubot> [telegram] <tbs61> Joellama
[09:27] <lubot> [telegram] <tbs61> I guess this question is to ask ubuntu channel.
[09:28] <lubot> [telegram] <tbs61> Also i hope u searched solution at web for ubuntu, not lubuntu
[09:28] <JoeLlama> ok
[09:28] <JoeLlama> thanks
[09:30] <TJ-> JoeLlama: sounds like a build issue. Does the PC have a wired Ethernet connection it can use whilst you're solving the issue?
[09:37] <JoeLlama> TJ- ... well...  my wifi cards work with xubuntu on these machines but... they are very small computers and lubuntu seems to work better
[09:37] <JoeLlama> i386
[09:37] <JoeLlama> so I use 18.04.5 I think
[09:38] <JoeLlama> but for some reason they do not recognize the cards
[09:38] <JoeLlama> dunno
[09:38] <JoeLlama> would like to save these little computers they are neat :)
[09:38] <JoeLlama> I think they use BMC4312
[09:38] <JoeLlama> for wifi not sure
[09:39] <JoeLlama> lubuntu also does not recognize my intel wifi cards in the dell 1720
[09:39] <JoeLlama> TJ-
[09:39] <JoeLlama> and also it's as little difficult to ask the people at the coffee shop to let me plug straight into their router *grin*
[09:40] <JoeLlama> so it's a lubuntu thing not an ubuntu or xubuntu thing
[09:40] <JoeLlama> dunno why... just is
[09:43] <TJ-> JoeLlama: hmmmm... the desktop you use should have no impact on hardware support
[09:44] <TJ-> JoeLlama: is this from fresh installs, or adding multiple desktop environments to the same install?
[09:44] <JoeLlama> dunno TJ- I run this same box with xubuntu and it finds the wifi just fine...
[09:44] <JoeLlama> when I check for wifi hardware in lubuntu it can't find it
[09:45] <JoeLlama> just something with lubuntu and these boxes I guess... dunno
[09:45] <TJ-> JoeLlama: yes, but /how/ are you running Xubuntu? From its ISO? installed?
[09:45] <JoeLlama> yes
[09:45] <TJ-> JoeLlama: lubuntu/xubuntu/ubuntu/kubuntu are just skins. The underlying hardware support and kernels is the same
[09:45] <TJ-> yes to what? yes, from the ISO as a Live environment?
[09:48] <JoeLlama> I sintall from an ISO to the SSD
[09:48] <JoeLlama> and run from the SSD
[09:48] <JoeLlama> works with xubuntu doesn't with lubuntu... lubuntu doesn't find the wifi card
[09:48] <JoeLlama> perhaps it's a mystery that will never be solved.
[09:49] <JoeLlama> tried many ways
[09:49] <JoeLlama> something about the dell inspiron 1720 a and the inspiron 910 that lubuntu just doesn't like about the wifi cards
[09:49] <JoeLlama> it just doesn't see them
[09:49] <JoeLlama> again running 18.04.5
[09:50] <JoeLlama> will lubuntu support i286 in the future (btw?)?
[09:50] <JoeLlama> I have a number of decent i386 boxes I would like to keep them running for another 10 or 12 years if possible
[09:50] <JoeLlama> TJ- :)
[09:55] <TJ-> JoeLlama: the xubuntu version you use, is it also 18.04.5 ?
[09:55] <JoeLlama> yes
[09:55] <TJ-> JoeLlama: so the same hardware support is available in both xubuntu and lubuntu
[09:56] <JoeLlama> or 20.04 on the 1720 (amd64)
[09:56] <JoeLlama> yes same boxes
[09:56] <JoeLlama> I can only use i386 on the mini-9
[09:56] <TJ-> the only difference is in the default installed packages. I suspect the difference is in pre-installing the tools required to build the BRCM module 
[09:56] <JoeLlama> intel atom CPU :)  single core 2 thread I think
[09:57] <JoeLlama> oh?
[09:57] <JoeLlama> hrm how do I fix that?
[09:57] <TJ-> JoeLlama: you have the problem system running lubuntu right now?
[09:58] <JoeLlama> well yeah
[09:58] <JoeLlama> there are more than one
[09:58] <JoeLlama> I have a lot of computers laying around
[09:59] <JoeLlama> but yeah there is one sitting next to me
[09:59] <TJ-> so can you connect one of them via wired Ethernet so we can grab some info from it?
[09:59] <JoeLlama> I ran a command to find the hardware but it can't find it... it finds and used the 10baseT port just fine
[09:59] <JoeLlama> and surf and everything on it
[09:59] <JoeLlama> just not the wifi
[09:59] <JoeLlama> oh no not near the router atm
[09:59] <JoeLlama> only the air waves :/
[09:59] <TJ-> JoeLlama: so it can reach Internet right now?
[10:00] <JoeLlama> no it can't find the wifi remember? (:
[10:00] <TJ-> JoeLlama: Plug it in!
[10:00] <JoeLlama> I am on a dell inspiron atm over wifi using xubuntu
[10:00] <lubot> [telegram] <tbs61> XD
[10:00] <JoeLlama> on um...  I only have air waves atm TJ-
[10:01] <JoeLlama> the router is some distance from me
[10:01] <TJ-> JoeLlama: let us know when you've connected one of the problem PCs via Ethernet and it can reach the Internet
[10:01] <lubot> [telegram] <tbs61> U may Try it with ur phone, share wifi from ur phone and see if lubuntu see it
[10:02] <lubot> [telegram] <tbs61> So u can understand if wifi works
[10:02] <JoeLlama> hrm I will try TJ-
[10:02] <JoeLlama> I find other people who somehow install the drivers using apt-get but it doesn't work for me
[10:03] <TJ-> tbs61 that's pointless; we know Wifi hardware drivers are not built
[10:03] <JoeLlama> but they are not on the mini-8
[10:03] <JoeLlama> hrm?
[10:04] <JoeLlama> what is tbs61 TJ-?
[10:04] <TJ-> JoeLlama: Until you've connected the problem system to wired Ethernet everything else is a complete waste of time. The system needs to fetch and install dependent packages in order to successfully build the kernel module that will operate the wifi chipset
[10:04] <TJ-> JoeLlama: the other option is to use apt-offline but based on what I've seen so far that is beyond you
[10:04] <JoeLlama> oh okay there was a package it needed but wouldn't install saying it may be obsolete or something
[10:05] <JoeLlama> dmsk or dmks or something
[10:05] <JoeLlama> well yeah I am still kinda new to linux really
[10:05] <JoeLlama> I just couldn't stomach windows for internet anymore
[10:06] <JoeLlama> but I've done pretty well actually :)  I seem to get everything on xubuntu working just fine
[10:06] <JoeLlama> in fact, I am running an IRC client under wine right now
[10:06] <JoeLlama> with a LOT of windows open on many irc networks
[10:07] <JoeLlama> I do have an issue with SSL under wine however.. know much about that TJ-?
[10:07] <JoeLlama> it's a known issue
[10:08] <JoeLlama> the dell mini-9 only has 2GB ram so...  it runs xubuntu but I really want to run lubuntu on them...  I like it :)
[10:09] <TJ-> JoeLlama: why chose Linux then run Windows programs?!
[10:09] <TJ-> there are many IRC clients in Linux
[10:10] <JoeLlama> I have been using this client since the 90's
[10:10] <TJ-> mIRC I presume
[10:10] <JoeLlama> I paid 20 USD for it 
[10:10] <JoeLlama> yup yup
[10:10] <JoeLlama> I like it, it does everything I want mostly
[10:11] <TJ-> DKMS is required to build the kernel module for the BRCN
[10:11] <TJ-> BRCM
[10:11] <TJ-> Dynamic Kernel Module Support == DKMS
[10:11] <JoeLlama> oh?
[10:11] <JoeLlama> ok well I tried to install it but it had an error
[10:13] <JoeLlama> woops
[10:14] <JoeLlama> heh forgot I was talking with you TJ-
[10:14] <JoeLlama> well didn't forget but logged off the server and forgot you were here
[10:15] <JoeLlama> I will make note of DKMS and work on that tomorrow when I am plugged in
[10:15] <JoeLlama> the only real issue with xubuntu and ubuntu is I can't seem to make the browsers work
[10:15] <JoeLlama> there is a lot of memory leaks for one thing
[10:16] <JoeLlama> and the browser locks up for periods of time sometimes locking the whole system up
[10:16] <JoeLlama> I got it working once really well but I had to reinstall after the display driver install borked :/
[10:16] <JoeLlama> nvidia hasn't fixed the issue yet dunno if they ever will
[10:17] <JoeLlama> I Think with 18.04 on
[10:17] <lubot> [telegram] <Halis> İ do not want to be unpolite, but are not these to many messages?
[10:17] <JoeLlama> well... kinda gave up on that issue for now
[10:17] <JoeLlama> using two computers for the time being
[10:17] <lubot> [telegram] <Halis> People can not read all of them
[10:18] <lubot> [telegram] <Halis> Solution to your problem was already posted
[10:18] <JoeLlama> is lubot a bridge between channels TJ-?
[10:18] <JoeLlama> well...  I will leave you be TJ- you are probably getting tired of me :)
[10:19] <JoeLlama> I will look up the error on that DKMS install
[10:19] <JoeLlama> tomorrow :)
[10:19] <lubot> [telegram] <Halis> 👍
[10:19] <TJ-> JoeLlama: It is linking to some telegram thing
[10:19] <JoeLlama> oh ok
[10:20] <JoeLlama> I might be fixing a ferris wheel tomorrow :)  a 100 footer
[10:20] <JoeLlama> it's what I do irl
[10:20] <JoeLlama> floats my boat
[10:20] <JoeLlama> i hav no life
[10:20] <TJ-> Dont get stuck at the top!
[10:20] <JoeLlama> o k time to go thanks for the help TJ-
[10:20] <JoeLlama> heh I'll try not to but I like sitting up there with my camera
[10:21] <JoeLlama> okay thanks again bye for now (:
[17:30] <lubot> [telegram] <metpr> Hi lubuntu fans , i m noob new to the linux , and somehow successfully installed Lubuntu 20.04 in old age dead pc , its only 1 gb ram dual core cpu , thanks to lubuntu creators you are awesome never expected this smoothness. 
[17:30] <lubot> [telegram] <metpr> But , i had some issue while formatting my bootable-usb and now it became raw usb or something that system can't recognise it . 
[17:30] <lubot> [telegram] <metpr> Is there anyone who can help regarding this , i tried finding it in terminal by some commands but still no hope
[17:30] <lubot> [telegram] <metpr> I tried kde and gparted as well couldn't find my pendrive there as well
[17:31] <lubot> [telegram] <Halis> Does your PC have İnternet  connection?
[17:31] <lubot> [telegram] <metpr> Yes
[17:31] <lubot> [telegram] <metpr> https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/347893d1/file_3192.jpg
[17:31] <lubot> [telegram] <Halis> You can try to install third party drivers
[17:31] <lubot> [telegram] <metpr> From suggestion of someone i tired 1 command and found this (re @metpr: )
[17:31] <lubot> [telegram] <Halis> What does lsblk show?
[17:31] <lubot> [telegram] <metpr> Nothing (re @Halis: What does lsblk show?)
[17:32] <lubot> [telegram] <metpr> It shows my drive only (re @Halis: What does lsblk show?)
[17:32] <lubot> [telegram] <Halis> Hardware defect possible?
[17:32] <lubot> [telegram] <metpr> Nahh
[17:32] <lubot> [telegram] <Halis> You installed lubuntu with it, right?
[17:33] <lubot> [telegram] <Halis> And it is still in the same USB slot?
[17:33] <lubot> [telegram] <metpr> Its new usb , i think when i was formatting my bootable-usb , there must be some problem happened (re @metpr: )
[17:34] <lubot> [telegram] <metpr> Nope (re @Halis: You installed lubuntu with it, right?)
[17:34] <lubot> [telegram] <metpr> I installed from another
[17:34] <lubot> [telegram] <metpr> Usb
[17:35] <lubot> [telegram] <Halis> So it did work before? (re @metpr: Its new usb , i think when i was formatting my bootable-usb , there must be some problem happened)
[17:36] <lubot> [telegram] <Halis> And you format it, and now it does not appear anymore
[17:36] <lubot> [telegram] <Halis> Correct?
[17:37] <lubot> [telegram] <metpr> Yes , it was working (re @Halis: So it did work before?)
[17:37] <lubot> [telegram] <metpr> Yup (re @Halis: And you format it, and now it does not appear anymore)
[17:38] <lubot> [telegram] <Halis> Can you make a screenshot of kde partition manager?
[17:38] <lubot> [telegram] <metpr> Let me turn on system just 1 min
[17:42] <lubot> [telegram] <metpr> https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/f549f4e8/file_3193.jpg
[17:42] <lubot> [telegram] <metpr> Pendrive is connected *
[18:30] <lubot> [telegram] <Halis> İs it connected to the same USB in which you format it?
[18:33] <lubot> [telegram] <Halis> İf yes, İ can not help you
[18:34] <lubot> [telegram] <Halis> İ do not see a way, how formating would make your USB drive invisible
[18:34] <lubot> [telegram] <Halis> İ would say hardware defective