| Safiyyah | morning all I am still battling with my mouse, I found a recent shell script on github.https://github.com/ArtiomSu/kensington-expert-trackball-linux-config/blob/master/README.md | 09:08 |
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| Safiyyah | I have saved the file but it doesn't let me run the shell script I don't understand why. I ran one yesterday for another package with no issues | 09:09 |
| Safiyyah | https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/GXQTQrRfgK/ | 09:10 |
| Safiyyah | so is poppy no longer on here? | 09:52 |
| Safiyyah | popey, are you about? | 09:52 |
| Safiyyah | https://askubuntu.com/questions/492744/how-do-i-automatically-remap-buttons-on-my-mouse-at-startup | 09:53 |
| Safiyyah | I don't understand how to do the doing... | 09:55 |
| zxmpi | have you marke the file as executable? | 10:04 |
| zxmpi | and do you trust the file? | 10:04 |
| daftykins | good afty | 11:11 |
| daftykins | it's a pretty challenging time right now as my sickly cat just came home from the vet and was busy decorating my house last night | 11:11 |
| daftykins | Safiyyah: not sure i'm going to have much patience for anything but my own problems i'm afraid | 11:12 |
| Safiyyah | daftykins, okay | 11:13 |
| daftykins | heh nothing but business that one | 11:14 |
| zxmpi | no time to stop and smell the weetabix :-P | 11:27 |
| daftykins | hehe | 11:37 |
| daftykins | good afty penguin42 \o | 11:37 |
| penguin42 | hey daftykins | 11:37 |
| daftykins | how've the LibreOffice compilations been going? | 11:38 |
| penguin42 | I've got distracted by at least 2 other projects | 11:38 |
| daftykins | hehe good ones i hope | 11:39 |
| penguin42 | Neither have got too far yet; one is a Pico I've bought, the other is some Rust | 11:39 |
| daftykins | i have a mission in mind to tidy up my home office today, losing a fair bit too much floor space to recent arrivals and systems | 11:45 |
| * penguin42 does need to find a way to do that | 11:45 | |
| daftykins | then you can get your new air con in :D | 11:46 |
| Safiyyah | anyone here with experience with a mouse with a scrollwheel | 14:38 |
| Safiyyah | ? | 14:38 |
| zxmpi | don't most mice now have scroll wheels? | 14:41 |
| Safiyyah | my kensington expert mouse scroll wheel isn't being picked up | 14:50 |
| Safiyyah | even when I run xinput test | 14:51 |
| Safiyyah | zxmpi, | 14:51 |
| daftykins | huh so the collar around the ball is the scroll wheel? | 14:57 |
| zxmpi | seems to be a lot of 'comments' on the scroll wheel | 14:57 |
| zxmpi | but most seem to be about the noise or non smoothness of it in use. not seeing any lack of detection of it | 14:59 |
| daftykins | i'm boxing up the Psion but the hinges have totally gone now, the lid and screen are basically flapping around in the breeze | 15:00 |
| zxmpi | hope it can be repaired | 15:01 |
| daftykins | handling the unit is marking my fingers in grey too, so i'm going to write a warning for RMC | 15:01 |
| daftykins | yeah i don't know if he'd bother to invest in it to be honest | 15:01 |
| penguin42 | I wonder if you can 3d print replacement hinges | 15:01 |
| daftykins | pretty weird that it thinks the backup battery is toast already | 15:01 |
| zxmpi | i remember the rubberised coating, the 3mx i got doesn't have it. a sleek matt dark grey | 15:01 |
| daftykins | ah that explains why it lasted | 15:01 |
| daftykins | well i copied my WinImage'd PsiWin floppies and popped them onto a CD-R so he has options to fall back on to play with it, if he deems it worthy of a video | 15:02 |
| zxmpi | well psionex are still selling them, so either they remove it or have some way to 'refresh' it | 15:02 |
| daftykins | bit tough to say it'd be deserving given it's in a pretty rough state | 15:02 |
| zxmpi | i think psionex will buy them in any state for spare parts | 15:04 |
| daftykins | well, i have no interest in that approach tbh... i will just let RMC Neil do whatever he wants with it | 15:05 |
| daftykins | it's at least functional - given i have the AC adapter, plus all the boxes have the original manuals inside | 15:05 |
| daftykins | even original Psion product listings :D | 15:05 |
| zxmpi | i should go fish out my psion 3a out of storage if it's still there. has a 256k ssd card with files on it from 25 years ago :-) | 15:07 |
| daftykins | \o/ | 15:07 |
| zxmpi | of course i'd have to travel across the plague ridden wasteland that is dublin to get it | 15:07 |
| zxmpi | on public transport | 15:08 |
| daftykins | there's a Hollywood adaptation in that | 15:08 |
| zxmpi | escape INTO dublin city... | 15:08 |
| zxmpi | and BACK out again the sequel | 15:08 |
| daftykins | can't recall if the little leather case came with the unit now or whether it was an extra purchase | 15:10 |
| zxmpi | cases were extra | 15:10 |
| zxmpi | used to have a lovely leather hip holster for the psion. super high geek cred | 15:10 |
| daftykins | haha | 15:10 |
| * penguin42 used a camera case | 15:11 | |
| Safiyyah | zxmpi, it's lack of smoothness never bothered me much. it was useful that is all I cared about. | 15:11 |
| zxmpi | have a hard plastic clam shell case for the 3mx. super tough case | 15:11 |
| Safiyyah | daftykins, yes the collar | 15:12 |
| Safiyyah | I got my husband to plug it into the windows desktop and the same issue... I think it has broken | 15:12 |
| Safiyyah | zxmpi, i store it in a hard case | 15:12 |
| zxmpi | i understand Safiyyah, i just have no idea what to try than the usual options, 1) try it on windows; 2) try it on ubuntu live cd; that would eliminate if it was mouse or your install of linux | 15:12 |
| daftykins | hmm, i doubt it - what release did you have on the last machine? if it worked out of the box, confirm in a live session | 15:12 |
| zxmpi | then if it's not happy on windows then i would suspect something has happened the mouse | 15:13 |
| Safiyyah | this is the second broken thing this week! | 15:13 |
| Safiyyah | it worked out of the box, has decided not to this week | 15:14 |
| daftykins | so prepare a USB flash drive with the release you used last, boot it up and try it out | 15:16 |
| zxmpi | that does happen, can drive you bonkers. i think that's why most geeks end up with an entire 2nd system just to test hardware, peripherals to prove to themselves they're not going bonkers | 15:16 |
| daftykins | although i suppose just plugging into your old machine would confirm | 15:16 |
| daftykins | hehe sure do | 15:16 |
| * daftykins looks at his test bench fleet | 15:16 | |
| daftykins | i have an OptiPlex zeroing an HDD behind me right now | 15:16 |
| zxmpi | i think my favourite was a pc that wouldn't work in one location, tested fine everytime, just wouldn't work on site at one desk. took 3 trips to the office to sort that one | 15:17 |
| daftykins | what was the trick? :D | 15:17 |
| Safiyyah | daftykins, plugged it into the calculator, not working there either | 15:18 |
| zxmpi | i told my boss to switch the pc with another desk and huzzah the problem went away | 15:18 |
| Safiyyah | zxmpi, i think that is the strangest problem I have heard of | 15:18 |
| daftykins | hrmm | 15:18 |
| zxmpi | ast pc's were legendary with having vastly underpower powersupplies. so barely worked if you added too much hardware to base model. was all we could think off | 15:19 |
| daftykins | hrmm | 15:20 |
| daftykins | oops repeated myself | 15:20 |
| Safiyyah | well let's see if their five year warranty is worth anything | 15:26 |
| daftykins | where'd you buy it from? | 15:26 |
| daftykins | https://www.quora.com/How-can-I-fix-a-Kensington-Expert-Mouse-Wireless-Trackball-My-scroll-ring-has-stopped-responding | 15:28 |
| daftykins | could be an easy fix if you get lucky | 15:28 |
| daftykins | also - https://gearspace.com/board/showpost.php?p=6137492&postcount=7&s=b13540e361aebbd263bca10f3792be69 | 15:31 |
| Safiyyah | daftykins, i cant open anything and screw anything in | 15:34 |
| Safiyyah | I am DIY challenged | 15:34 |
| Safiyyah | remember it is the reason I married | 15:34 |
| daftykins | well pursue warranty first and if it fails, subcontract it :D | 15:42 |
| Safiyyah | daftykins, what is subcontract? | 15:47 |
| Safiyyah | is there a repair guy? | 15:47 |
| Safiyyah | I checked amazon and they are currently £95, my husband will kill me. I bought an ergodox recently. my hands hurt so much from typing | 15:49 |
| daftykins | requesting someone else perform a task | 15:49 |
| Safiyyah | where do you find people for that? | 15:49 |
| Safiyyah | it's quite a specific task | 15:49 |
| daftykins | well i do repair myself so i haven't had to really look | 15:49 |
| daftykins | local computer shops no good? | 15:50 |
| Safiyyah | they need ro repair a mouse not a computer | 15:50 |
| Safiyyah | it is broken! i just cant believe it | 15:51 |
| daftykins | do you think that when i go to clients to fix things, i say yes to the computer and no to devices plugged into it? | 15:53 |
| daftykins | it's the same thing! don't be daft | 15:53 |
| Safiyyah | hmm, who is recommended in the south? | 15:53 |
| Safiyyah | daftykins, what is your call out fee? | 16:00 |
| Safiyyah | btw, nobody wants my old laptop not even the kids! hmm! | 16:00 |
| daftykins | lol unsurprising ;) | 16:02 |
| daftykins | i don't even live in England | 16:02 |
| daftykins | and you couldn't afford me xD | 16:02 |
| zxmpi | you don't have an inflatable flamingo to swim to those poor mainlanders in distress? :-P | 16:03 |
| daftykins | lol | 16:03 |
| zxmpi | no flamingo up too big is the motto :-P | 16:04 |
| daftykins | \o/ | 16:04 |
| daftykins | weyhey i think this Psion packing is going well, i may even be able to fit in a bit of local fudge | 16:04 |
| zxmpi | packing fudge, the ultimate in biodegradable packing :-P | 16:05 |
| zxmpi | leave psion on it on a hot day with a 2nd block on top till it melts into position | 16:06 |
| daftykins | hehe | 16:07 |
| Safiyyah | daftykins, if repairs are so expensive why do people do them? | 16:14 |
| zxmpi | people become attached to hardware they like? | 16:14 |
| daftykins | the feeling of satisfaction is also intoxicating | 16:15 |
| zxmpi | that or you didn't do the gluing in a well ventilated room :-P | 16:16 |
| * daftykins has another quick huff | 16:16 | |
| Safiyyah | so you call out the repair man and spend £300? | 16:16 |
| daftykins | you might be onto something there | 16:16 |
| daftykins | lol, well it's hard to ascribe cost to things i fix myself | 16:16 |
| Safiyyah | well given that people are spending over £2000 for laptops | 16:17 |
| Safiyyah | ... this was my guess | 16:17 |
| daftykins | often those that make poor purchase decisions are the types to just dump and buy new when trouble brews | 16:17 |
| zxmpi | i have never spent more than 450 for a laptop. i can always find a bargin i'll regret buying later :-) | 16:18 |
| Safiyyah | zxmpi that's why you are not his client | 16:20 |
| Safiyyah | you need to be buying £2000+ | 16:20 |
| Safiyyah | or atleast £1700 | 16:21 |
| daftykins | well no because i just described people that spend £2k don't go for repair | 16:21 |
| Safiyyah | poor purchase decisions = people who spend £300 in currys in my opinion | 16:22 |
| Safiyyah | £2k ... they did some research | 16:22 |
| zxmpi | i love people who spend that kinda money. it's the wrong colour, order it in blue; shall i send it back?; no no dispose of it | 16:22 |
| Safiyyah | £3k they have money to burn or a professional gamer | 16:23 |
| Safiyyah | daftykins, got the husband to open it up. there is no magnet in mine | 16:23 |
| zxmpi | they replace hardware every few months so you end up having new hardware you have to find homes for | 16:23 |
| daftykins | Safiyyah: that's not the relevant question | 16:24 |
| daftykins | cleaning the optical sensor was what is - and checking it's close enough | 16:24 |
| Safiyyah | hubby said it is extra clean | 16:24 |
| Safiyyah | what is the optical sensor | 16:25 |
| Safiyyah | ? | 16:25 |
| daftykins | might be a little bit more effective reading my links | 16:25 |
| Safiyyah | daftykins, i don't think you understand that somethings make no sense to my brain. | 16:26 |
| Safiyyah | my husband opened the mouse it is completely clean | 16:26 |
| daftykins | and i don't think you understand that other people have lives with thoughts and feelings and their own issues to deal with besides yours | 16:26 |
| Safiyyah | which is what I expect since I am borderline OCD | 16:27 |
| Safiyyah | daftykins, the link provided, he has two white connectors, I only have one inside my mouse | 16:34 |
| daftykins | you've got as much information as i'm going to give | 16:37 |
| daftykins | either pursue warranty or deal with it | 16:37 |
| daftykins | https://www.youtube.com/post/UgzPh-pfBQraMF7THfJ4AaABCQ | 21:18 |
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