[09:08] morning all I am still battling with my mouse, I found a recent shell script on github.https://github.com/ArtiomSu/kensington-expert-trackball-linux-config/blob/master/README.md [09:09] I have saved the file but it doesn't let me run the shell script I don't understand why. I ran one yesterday for another package with no issues [09:10] https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/GXQTQrRfgK/ [09:52] so is poppy no longer on here? [09:52] popey, are you about? [09:53] https://askubuntu.com/questions/492744/how-do-i-automatically-remap-buttons-on-my-mouse-at-startup [09:55] I don't understand how to do the doing... [10:04] have you marke the file as executable? [10:04] and do you trust the file? [11:11] good afty [11:11] it's a pretty challenging time right now as my sickly cat just came home from the vet and was busy decorating my house last night [11:12] Safiyyah: not sure i'm going to have much patience for anything but my own problems i'm afraid [11:13] daftykins, okay [11:14] heh nothing but business that one [11:27] no time to stop and smell the weetabix :-P [11:37] hehe [11:37] good afty penguin42 \o [11:37] hey daftykins [11:38] how've the LibreOffice compilations been going? [11:38] I've got distracted by at least 2 other projects [11:39] hehe good ones i hope [11:39] Neither have got too far yet; one is a Pico I've bought, the other is some Rust [11:45] i have a mission in mind to tidy up my home office today, losing a fair bit too much floor space to recent arrivals and systems [11:45] * penguin42 does need to find a way to do that [11:46] then you can get your new air con in :D [14:38] anyone here with experience with a mouse with a scrollwheel [14:38] ? [14:41] don't most mice now have scroll wheels? [14:50] my kensington expert mouse scroll wheel isn't being picked up [14:51] even when I run xinput test [14:51] zxmpi, [14:57] huh so the collar around the ball is the scroll wheel? [14:57] seems to be a lot of 'comments' on the scroll wheel [14:59] but most seem to be about the noise or non smoothness of it in use. not seeing any lack of detection of it [15:00] i'm boxing up the Psion but the hinges have totally gone now, the lid and screen are basically flapping around in the breeze [15:01] hope it can be repaired [15:01] handling the unit is marking my fingers in grey too, so i'm going to write a warning for RMC [15:01] yeah i don't know if he'd bother to invest in it to be honest [15:01] I wonder if you can 3d print replacement hinges [15:01] pretty weird that it thinks the backup battery is toast already [15:01] i remember the rubberised coating, the 3mx i got doesn't have it. a sleek matt dark grey [15:01] ah that explains why it lasted [15:02] well i copied my WinImage'd PsiWin floppies and popped them onto a CD-R so he has options to fall back on to play with it, if he deems it worthy of a video [15:02] well psionex are still selling them, so either they remove it or have some way to 'refresh' it [15:02] bit tough to say it'd be deserving given it's in a pretty rough state [15:04] i think psionex will buy them in any state for spare parts [15:05] well, i have no interest in that approach tbh... i will just let RMC Neil do whatever he wants with it [15:05] it's at least functional - given i have the AC adapter, plus all the boxes have the original manuals inside [15:05] even original Psion product listings :D [15:07] i should go fish out my psion 3a out of storage if it's still there. has a 256k ssd card with files on it from 25 years ago :-) [15:07] \o/ [15:07] of course i'd have to travel across the plague ridden wasteland that is dublin to get it [15:08] on public transport [15:08] there's a Hollywood adaptation in that [15:08] escape INTO dublin city... [15:08] and BACK out again the sequel [15:10] can't recall if the little leather case came with the unit now or whether it was an extra purchase [15:10] cases were extra [15:10] used to have a lovely leather hip holster for the psion. super high geek cred [15:10] haha [15:11] * penguin42 used a camera case [15:11] zxmpi, it's lack of smoothness never bothered me much. it was useful that is all I cared about. [15:11] have a hard plastic clam shell case for the 3mx. super tough case [15:12] daftykins, yes the collar [15:12] I got my husband to plug it into the windows desktop and the same issue... I think it has broken [15:12] zxmpi, i store it in a hard case [15:12] i understand Safiyyah, i just have no idea what to try than the usual options, 1) try it on windows; 2) try it on ubuntu live cd; that would eliminate if it was mouse or your install of linux [15:12] hmm, i doubt it - what release did you have on the last machine? if it worked out of the box, confirm in a live session [15:13] then if it's not happy on windows then i would suspect something has happened the mouse [15:13] this is the second broken thing this week! [15:14] it worked out of the box, has decided not to this week [15:16] so prepare a USB flash drive with the release you used last, boot it up and try it out [15:16] that does happen, can drive you bonkers. i think that's why most geeks end up with an entire 2nd system just to test hardware, peripherals to prove to themselves they're not going bonkers [15:16] although i suppose just plugging into your old machine would confirm [15:16] hehe sure do [15:16] * daftykins looks at his test bench fleet [15:16] i have an OptiPlex zeroing an HDD behind me right now [15:17] i think my favourite was a pc that wouldn't work in one location, tested fine everytime, just wouldn't work on site at one desk. took 3 trips to the office to sort that one [15:17] what was the trick? :D [15:18] daftykins, plugged it into the calculator, not working there either [15:18] i told my boss to switch the pc with another desk and huzzah the problem went away [15:18] zxmpi, i think that is the strangest problem I have heard of [15:18] hrmm [15:19] ast pc's were legendary with having vastly underpower powersupplies. so barely worked if you added too much hardware to base model. was all we could think off [15:20] hrmm [15:20] oops repeated myself [15:26] well let's see if their five year warranty is worth anything [15:26] where'd you buy it from? [15:28] https://www.quora.com/How-can-I-fix-a-Kensington-Expert-Mouse-Wireless-Trackball-My-scroll-ring-has-stopped-responding [15:28] could be an easy fix if you get lucky [15:31] also - https://gearspace.com/board/showpost.php?p=6137492&postcount=7&s=b13540e361aebbd263bca10f3792be69 [15:34] daftykins, i cant open anything and screw anything in [15:34] I am DIY challenged [15:34] remember it is the reason I married [15:42] well pursue warranty first and if it fails, subcontract it :D [15:47] daftykins, what is subcontract? [15:47] is there a repair guy? [15:49] I checked amazon and they are currently £95, my husband will kill me. I bought an ergodox recently. my hands hurt so much from typing [15:49] requesting someone else perform a task [15:49] where do you find people for that? [15:49] it's quite a specific task [15:49] well i do repair myself so i haven't had to really look [15:50] local computer shops no good? [15:50] they need ro repair a mouse not a computer [15:51] it is broken! i just cant believe it [15:53] do you think that when i go to clients to fix things, i say yes to the computer and no to devices plugged into it? [15:53] it's the same thing! don't be daft [15:53] hmm, who is recommended in the south? [16:00] daftykins, what is your call out fee? [16:00] btw, nobody wants my old laptop not even the kids! hmm! [16:02] lol unsurprising ;) [16:02] i don't even live in England [16:02] and you couldn't afford me xD [16:03] you don't have an inflatable flamingo to swim to those poor mainlanders in distress? :-P [16:03] lol [16:04] no flamingo up too big is the motto :-P [16:04] \o/ [16:04] weyhey i think this Psion packing is going well, i may even be able to fit in a bit of local fudge [16:05] packing fudge, the ultimate in biodegradable packing :-P [16:06] leave psion on it on a hot day with a 2nd block on top till it melts into position [16:07] hehe [16:14] daftykins, if repairs are so expensive why do people do them? [16:14] people become attached to hardware they like? [16:15] the feeling of satisfaction is also intoxicating [16:16] that or you didn't do the gluing in a well ventilated room :-P [16:16] * daftykins has another quick huff [16:16] so you call out the repair man and spend £300? [16:16] you might be onto something there [16:16] lol, well it's hard to ascribe cost to things i fix myself [16:17] well given that people are spending over £2000 for laptops [16:17] ... this was my guess [16:17] often those that make poor purchase decisions are the types to just dump and buy new when trouble brews [16:18] i have never spent more than 450 for a laptop. i can always find a bargin i'll regret buying later :-) [16:20] zxmpi that's why you are not his client [16:20] you need to be buying £2000+ [16:21] or atleast £1700 [16:21] well no because i just described people that spend £2k don't go for repair [16:22] poor purchase decisions = people who spend £300 in currys in my opinion [16:22] £2k ... they did some research [16:22] i love people who spend that kinda money. it's the wrong colour, order it in blue; shall i send it back?; no no dispose of it [16:23] £3k they have money to burn or a professional gamer [16:23] daftykins, got the husband to open it up. there is no magnet in mine [16:23] they replace hardware every few months so you end up having new hardware you have to find homes for [16:24] Safiyyah: that's not the relevant question [16:24] cleaning the optical sensor was what is - and checking it's close enough [16:24] hubby said it is extra clean [16:25] what is the optical sensor [16:25] ? [16:25] might be a little bit more effective reading my links [16:26] daftykins, i don't think you understand that somethings make no sense to my brain. [16:26] my husband opened the mouse it is completely clean [16:26] and i don't think you understand that other people have lives with thoughts and feelings and their own issues to deal with besides yours [16:27] which is what I expect since I am borderline OCD [16:34] daftykins, the link provided, he has two white connectors, I only have one inside my mouse [16:37] you've got as much information as i'm going to give [16:37] either pursue warranty or deal with it [21:18] https://www.youtube.com/post/UgzPh-pfBQraMF7THfJ4AaABCQ