[00:18] tomreyn: sorry I was disconnected. How do I force install firmware-sof-signed? [00:26] tomreyn: they are wired headphones, and the computer is connected to a tv through HDMI but as far as I can tell the tv isnt receiving sound [00:27] tomreyn: I tried apt-get install --force-yes but it has been depreciated [00:32] How can I cast to my LG smart TV from ubuntu? [00:34] HDMI [00:37] or if you have a chromecast [00:37] (I only know google stuff, not apple) [00:37] Chromecast into hdmi TV and you can cast most online video sites and youtube etc. [00:37] you can even cast your entire desktop to TV over wifi [00:38] With HDMI, you can't 'cast'. You can extend the display only. [00:38] So a slight correction on the information provided. [00:38] frib: ^ [00:39] I don't have an hdmi port or a chromecast [00:39] I'm trying miracle cast right now [00:39] Does your tv run any smart apps? [00:39] i'm not sure what that means.. its a smart tv [00:39] it has apps [00:39] ok [00:39] maybe it can run a vnc client on tv? server on ubuntu? [00:39] Never tried it, dunno if it's possible. [00:40] Then again, how would you give input to the tv? hmm. [00:40] don't think it's possible without wifi or a cable. [00:41] i'm trying to cast over wifi [00:41] But the tv needs a casting device or a vnc client [00:42] huh [00:42] how does casting from smart phone work [00:42] lots of applications do it [00:42] Try ##hardware too [00:42] the tv needs some kind of app to connect to your pc or phone [00:42] https://www.samsung.com/latin_en/support/tv-audio-video/how-to-use-the-remote-access-on-your-samsung-smart-tv/ [00:42] im tyring miraclecast [00:42] samsung for example has something [00:43] insignia tv also have their own app store [00:43] https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/471745-smart-tv-vnc-solution [00:43] its an lg tv [00:44] https://alenblog.wordpress.com/2011/04/21/stream-computer-desktop-to-tv-using-dlna-tversity-and-vlc/ [00:44] read this [00:44] Without the proper hardware, you cannot. [00:44] Unless the TV has a build in RDP or VNC client in its app store [00:45] then it can listen on wifi on it's own ip, and any phone or desktop canc onnect to it. [00:45] thats about all I konw [00:45] perhaps #networking or #hardware can help more [00:45] it's not that complicated [00:46] I know. I have a chromecast :) [00:46] And TV with HDMI [00:46] Anyone know why loading a MIDI into Audacity produces NO OUTPUT? Can't here a thing, but apparently MIDI contents are displayed! Thanks. [00:46] I send all my desktop youtube videos to the big TV over wifi [00:46] RadSurfer: you need a midi audio system [00:46] How does MuseScore manage it? [00:47] miraclecast should do it... [00:47] apt install timidity perhaps? [00:48] You need some kind of a midi playback backend system [00:48] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+package/timidity [00:48] timidity is 150mb, ouch [00:48] :( [00:48] It is a big hefty [00:49] Are you working with very little space? [00:49] not a lot... [00:49] 500gb [00:49] you're good. [00:49] 150mb is a fraction of it [00:49] U have no idea whats already installed! LOL [00:49] I don't! [00:50] Mabe you can disable -recommended and suggested packages etc. [00:50] only use absolutely dependent packages only [00:54] timidity does not support drag/drop, this is a foolish minimalist program! [00:54] it did however play the midi file in question... [00:55] run it as a deamon in bg [00:55] Then audacity configurtion set to timidity maybe for midi engine [00:55] indeed [00:55] and then audacity will play midis I think [00:55] my wifi adapter doesn't support miracle cast [00:56] frib: :( [00:56] do u know where in Audactiy to do that please? [00:56] I dunno. I don't use it. :P [00:56] I used to. I forgot now. [00:56] Edit > Preferences (on bottom of menu) [00:56] Then MIDI devices [00:57] playing from command line works fine! :) checking Aud... [00:57] And Devices tab [00:57] mess around in there [00:57] hey cool. glad it works. I know cuz I have to use some oldschool dooom2 wads who use midi music who won't play unless timidity [00:58] and few other games of oldschool [00:58] It only lists ALSO, and Midi through Port-0 for me [00:58] ALSA [00:59] audacity is silent. no recognition of timidity [01:00] hmm [01:00] \o/ [01:05] Wow! Timidity certainly does sound very good! [01:06] oh that reminds me, I've been meaning to find an alternative for Audacity [01:06] which is truly disappointing as it's a great tool [01:07] Just use the older version [01:07] I never updated. [01:07] That one is still great and still FOSS [01:07] but this minimalist design is a realy turn-off... filenames are case SENSITIVE, sheesh! [01:07] mmm, that' works [01:07] Audacity 2.3.3 is what I have on 20.04 [01:13] been hearing mixed reviews about audacity, not being as good or even as safe as previous versions. not that we can trust internet these days? LOL [01:14] RadSurfer: aye, hence pinning an older version before the takeover. [01:14] In April 2021, it was announced that Muse Group (owners of MuseScore and Ultimate Guitar) would be acquiring the Audacity trademark and continue to contribute to development of the software, which remains free and open source [01:14] MuseScore apparently can NOT properly handle many MIDIs... missing/incorrectly mapped instruments a common issue [01:15] LMMS is another [01:15] Might work for ya [01:15] and MuseScore also has an annoying "stutter/pausing issue" [01:16] except that it WILL display Score of a Midi file; and let you export that Score (music sheet) to pdf [01:16] MuseScore WILL also convert to .wav [01:16] i think you need soundbank for that? === xenial is now known as Guest4955 === Eickmeyer_ is now known as Eickmeyer [01:39] hows it going i need help with ubuntu . ive tried installing many times . ive got an amd ryzen 1400 gpu and i get a black screen on boot [01:40] im on try mode right now [01:40] anyone here know anything about ubuntu becoming super slow on hyper-v? so far the only solution i've found is to replace the kernel with linux-azure but i'm wondering if that actually does anything [01:47] hows it going i need help with ubuntu . ive tried installing many times . ive got an amd ryzen 1400 gpu and i get a black screen on boot [01:50] Guest74: Show us the output of terminal command ' lspci -vnn | grep VGA -A 12 '. We see here if and what hardware is detected. [01:51] is that the command line to put in ? [01:52] Guest74: Yeah exluding the ' marks. Just there to highlight the command string. [01:53] how do i post a screen shot [01:53] 1f:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480/570/570X/580/580X/590] [1002:67df] (rev e7) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) [01:53] Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Radeon RX 580 Armor 4G OC [1462:3418] [01:53] Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11 [01:53] Memory at e0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] [01:53] Memory at f0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=2M] [01:53] I/O ports at e000 [size=256] [01:54] !paste | Guest74 [01:54] Guest74: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [01:54] Guest74: My bad not to so advise of pasteing :( [01:54] sorry for some reason it said cannot send to nick/channel [01:56] i direct messaged u bashing [01:57] !paste [01:57] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [01:58] how would I query the hardware of my laptop's internal microphone? [01:58] https://pastebin.com/AZYMUc9u [01:59] Guest74: looking ^ [02:05] any advice on trouble shooting or where i can learn would be cool too man [02:10] Hi, is there a way to get to a live shell using https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current ? I don't want to install ubuntu, I just want a live shell with zfs and dm-crypt support so that I can use it as a recovery disk. [02:10] Guest74: Takes the amdgpu driver that is supplied in the kernel :) .. so is the module available ? Pastebin ' modinfo -F alias [radeon|amdgpu] ' [02:12] wagga: Once the desktop loads - key combo ctl+alt+t will get you a terminal interface. [02:13] where it says [radeon|amdgpu] do i put my actual pcs hardware ? [02:15] Guest74: No - that is the actual command to execute as is :D ( see that is why peer review is importannt). [02:15] or how would you know its available [02:15] Bashing-om: Oops, I actually have the ubuntu-server install media from https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily-live/current/. IS there a way to get to a shell using that install media? Or should I switch to the desktop live cd for this purpose? [02:16] wagga: try F4. [02:16] I was worried that if I continued through the UI on the ubuntu-server install media, that it might actually install ubuntu-server and write over my disks. === keypushe- is now known as keypusher [02:16] modinfo -F alias [radeon|amdgpu] [02:16] modinfo: ERROR: Module alias [radeon not found. [02:16] amdgpu]: command not found [02:18] Guest74: Ouch ! No something is not right maybe just because you are in "try ubuntu" on a live disk ? Or is this from the installed system ? [02:19] im on try now. but when i did a apt-update apt-upgrade input i rebooted and got a black screen. also while installed i had to go into recovery mode to log in [02:20] Bashing-om: At what point should I try F4? Should I am just passed selecting the keyboard layout. It is asking me if I would like wifi support to be installed. I am just a little worried that I might end up actually installing ubuntu. Is there a point that I will be able to press F4 and get a shell and avoid installing ubuntu? [02:21] wagga: Sorry - at this point my confidence not to mislead you is wanning. We best wait for better experience here to advise on this. [02:22] !nomodeset | Guest74 [02:22] Guest74: Systems with certain graphics chipsets may not boot properly out of the box. "Temporarily Add a Kernel Boot Parameter for Testing" as discussed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters to add the "nomodeset" parameter there. [02:22] Okay, I will try the desktop version. I was expecting the server version to take me right to a shell. [02:22] But if I can switch to a shell using the desktop version, that suits me fine. [02:23] Guest74: Let's try this and boot the install with this boot parameter. See what then we can see, [02:23] wagga: me thinks the desk top is the prefered rescue option. [02:24] Bashing-om: Thanks, I will switch to desktop [02:29] not sure how to fix this, i was trying to install nvidia drivers, now something is broke :/ [02:29] https://dpaste.org/fCD9#L11 [02:34] pi0: "75 not fully installed or removed." .... run ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' and how are you attempting to install the driver ? [02:37] i do want to install the driver [02:38] but now i am stuck on that part [02:38] even if i reboot [02:38] the error message is the same [02:39] lantech19446: consider running a less graphics variant of ubuntu? [02:40] perhaps something less heavy on resources when inside a vm [02:40] Lubuntu or Xubuntu perhaps? [02:40] Hash: I probably wasn't specific enough, it's my internet speed that's effected [02:40] Hmm. [02:40] How do you notice this? [02:41] Also I think from my experience/memory serves correctly, it may also have to do with how you configured your network card [02:41] Bridge mode (talking directly to your LAN's DHCP) in that mode it's faster [02:41] it's our web server and the site not only loads super slow but when i run speed test instead of the 350Mbps everything else on my network gets it's getting like 30Mbps [02:41] pi0: ack - so what method did you use in the attempt ? So we know how to direct the removal. [02:41] if you do NAT for VM internal network, then that is slower [02:41] i have noticed that if I used NAT, inside a VM, my download speed inside the vm goes way down. [02:42] So perhaps look into that [02:42] Try Bridge network mode for your virtual nic [02:42] that's a virtualbox thing not hyper-v [02:42] Ok. [02:42] It's all I know, maybe someone more knows [02:42] hyper-v uses virtual switches which are essentially bridge mde it's the only way to do it [02:43] sudo apt install nvidia-driver-460-server [02:43] hyper-v is prop. so I dunno it. [02:43] I use only free things [02:43] :) [02:43] but not sure if that was the correct driver to install [02:43] not i just want to remove it [02:44] pi0: try then ' sudo apt remove --purge nvidia-* ' . [02:44] with purge or somethign [02:44] doesnt purge actually remote it ? [02:44] you can use a ubuntu driver detection software to find out what driver belongs to a pciid [02:44] I forgot the name of it [02:45] pi0: Is that not what you indicated >> "i do want to install the driver". [02:45] : Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no packages (or specify a solution). [02:45] would dpkg-reconfigure be helpful here? [02:45] at first i wanted to install [02:45] but now i just want to remove it [02:46] ah [02:46] \https://bpa.st/AVMA for example [02:46] https://bpa.st/AVMA for example [02:46] that should find you the correct nvidia driver you need [02:47] --purge options wipes the config files also, but without --purge, you can remove package and keep the config files [02:47] pi0: what results ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ' ? if errors show all in a pastebin. [02:48] update / no errors , trying the others [02:49] !info libc6-i386 focal [02:49] libc6-i386 (2.31-0ubuntu9.2, focal): GNU C Library: 32-bit shared libraries for AMD64. In component main, is optional. Built by glibc. Size 2,660 kB / 14,399 kB [02:49] Hash: i tried that command [02:49] lantech19446: maybe try a ##windows-server or something channel perhaps a microsoft one [02:49] https://dpaste.org/xhAS -> full-upgrade [02:49] Hash: i did they didn't have any suggestions either :( [02:49] Aww [02:50] pi0: now do the last one, -f install [02:50] https://dpaste.org/xU2h [02:50] that is for the -f [02:50] debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable [02:51] Oh, you have a locked file problem [02:51] you can try to see who is locking this file and kill the process [02:51] pi0: "libc6:i386 (>= 2.4)" ^^ what release is this we are working with ? [02:52] 20.01 [02:53] 20.04 [02:53] i mean [02:53] how do i check what is locking the file [02:53] lsof [02:53] man the page [02:54] also man lslocks [02:54] Hello! How can I check the default spell checker installed/used at Ubuntu 20.04? [02:54] should be aspell no? [02:55] most things have aspell plugins but I dunno this one. [02:56] sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock [02:56] lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system /run/user/1000/gvfs [02:56] Output information may be incomplete. [02:56] sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock [02:56] lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system /run/user/1000/gvfs [02:56] Output information may be incomplete. [02:56] Please utilize a pastebin [02:56] !paste [02:56] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [02:56] Hangon. Some @ should see soon and -q [02:57] Hash, I guess so, I uninstalled aspell but it still is checking [02:58] I have some other *spell* stuff installed: ~$ sudo apt list --installed | grep spell [02:58] WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts. [02:58] hunspell-de-at-frami/focal,focal,now 1:6.4.3-1 all [installed,automatic] [02:58] hunspell-de-ch-frami/focal,focal,now 1:6.4.3-1 all [installed,automatic] [02:58] hunspell-de-de-frami/focal,focal,now 1:6.4.3-1 all [installed,automatic] [02:58] hunspell-en-au/focal,focal,now 1:2018.04.16-1 all [installed,automatic] [02:58] SupremeKai: see what ubottu said about paste [02:59] sorry about that [02:59] np [02:59] sorry [02:59] Remember, even a really long line for some people's irc clients takes a lot of space [02:59] i did not realize i pasted twice, but not sure if that is the file [02:59] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jss3W48SKC/ [03:00] oh hunspell. I have no idea really about spell checkers since I use google docs [03:01] pi0: you lsof the wrong file [03:01] Hash, even here at the hexchat it does a spell check and I would like to remove the spell check [03:01] pi0: lsof the file reported by the pre/post install scripts [03:01] oh no, which file did i need to lsof? [03:01] sup its guest74 im back . i didnt know how to put a temporary boot parameter . my ubuntu is fully installed .. could i get the command for checking my drivers again [03:02] SupremeKai: that should be in settings. usually there is a hexchat plugin you can disable [03:02] https://pasteboard.co/Kh9IiFp.png [03:03] Hash, it does the spell checking on every software here on ubuntu [03:04] https://hexchat.readthedocs.io/en/latest/tips.html#unix [03:04] webchat22: You are on the install now ? ' modinfo -F alias [radeon|amdgpu] ' [03:04] Install enchant and your spelling dictionaries via your package manager <- remove ehcnant perhaps? [03:05] Then make sure to enable spelling under Settings ‣ Preferences ‣ Interface ‣ Input box. <- maybe disable it there? [03:05] Also there is probably a #hexchat too [03:26] Are there any ubutu live cds that support twofish-xts-plain64? [03:28] !info twofish-xts-plain64 focal | wagga [03:28] wagga: Package twofish-xts-plain64 does not exist in focal [03:29] Thanks Bashing-om [03:29] !info aes-xts-plain64 focal [03:29] Package aes-xts-plain64 does not exist in focal [03:30] wagga: No help there - as I have no idea of what "twofish-xts-plain64" is :( [03:31] Okay. It is a cypher and mode for encryption. I can't seem to load the xts kernel module. It does not complain when I run modprobe xts, but lsmod shows nothing for xts, so it is also not loading it. [03:33] I am going to try knoppix. [03:39] Bashing-om sup man back . i need the command again sorry . i did sudo apt update and upgrade and still nothing also. [03:39] webchat22: ' modinfo -F alias [radeon|amdgpu] ' ?? [03:40] yeah thanks ill see if something changed [03:40] webchat22: Booted into the install now ? [03:40] yeah but in recovery mode regular boot stays black [03:42] modinfo -F alias [radeon|amdgpu] [03:42] modinfo: ERROR: Module alias [radeon not found. [03:42] amdgpu]: command not found [03:42] same response [03:47] noone remote views and tries to trouble shoot for newbs anymore ? [03:51] Bashing-om cant even open my ubuntu software app [03:54] webchat22: Vack to driver install situation. what shows ' dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu ' ? [03:57] says i need and action option i might of typed it in wrong the line is next to the enter key right ? not a capital I or nothing ? [03:58] Bashing-om https://pastebin.com/Wct3neAa [03:59] webchat22: The "l" is a lower case ell . [04:00] Bashing-om https://pastebin.com/CcVEvbr1 [04:02] webchat22: Well that says the correct driver is installed :) What tells the driver manager ' cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log ' . [04:04] https://pastebin.com/HkFBGvge [04:10] Bashing-om https://pastebin.com/HkFBGvge [04:10] webchat22: A mystery here as the manager says "Is amdgpu kernel module available? no" .. dpkg says otherwise. we get any hints in re-installing ' sudo apt install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu ' ? [04:13] Bashing-om [04:13] https://pastebin.com/gjRSazrk [04:15] man linux a mystery to me . i remember installing it before and it was easy to find workarounds now its different [04:15] webchat22: No issues seen .. reboot and see if there is a positive result . [04:15] cool brb thanks man [04:21] Bashing-om yeah still no luck man [04:24] webchat22: Sorry man - will take one who Knows more than I about the AMD driver to see what is not taking place :( [04:25] no doubt man thanks anyway [04:28] webchat22: Wish I could be of more help - saddly I run with Nvidia graphics :( [04:28] ye a lot of folks do man . maybe ill find something on youtube or some [04:33] webchat22: No consolation - the driver is in the kernel -- and "just Works™ - supposed too ! [04:34] is there a way to find an open source amd driver i can try to boot with . saw someone do it with nouveau [04:41] webchat22: Nope --- The provided kernel drivers are open source. However now what shows ' lsmod | grep amdgpu ' ? === jkovac16 is now known as jkovac1 [04:48] Bashing-om nothing just sends me to a new blank line [04:50] webchat22: Just soes not make any sense to me , ^ that should produce a wall of text as the driver is installed ! [04:51] webchat22: A poke in the dark ' lsmod | grep radeon ' ? [04:52] still blank line afterwards [04:52] its like it ignored it or something [04:53] webchat22: Over my skill set - sorry :( [04:53] its cool man thanks [05:05] hi everyone, [05:06] Guest51, if you have a Ubuntu support question, please just ask it (try and keep to a single line, and be patient as people respond as they're able to). non-support talk should go to #ubuntu-offtopic [05:06] i have ubuntu 20.04LTS installed, did reboot yesterday after doing upgrade and the ubuntu can't start any longer. I did the boot-repair but it didn't help. The report is here https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nWrFtCWbn9/ [05:15] Guest51: What results when you boot an older kernel from Grub's advanced boot options ? [05:15] failed to mount kernel configuration file system [05:17] or, when trying to boot in recovery mode, it reports multiple errors with services like "systemd: failed to mount Mount init for gnome" etc. [05:28] also, to be correct, the boot repair fails to do the repair with the message "grub-efi-amd64-signed purge cancelled" [05:29] Guest51: what is the error message when you try to boot normally, without recovery etc? [05:29] Also, do you have a live cd that you can boot with? It sounds like your updates haven't finished installing properly [05:33] alkisg, multiple errors, the last one is "failed to mount kernel configuration file system" https://photos.app.goo.gl/YtAr5PmiBKekqu7P6. I have a live cd, that's where I tried to repair the grub with boot repair from [05:34] Guest51: are you booted with the live cd now? [05:34] by "live cd" i mean bootable usb stick. Yes [05:34] Do you mind sharing your screen, to be able to chroot into the installation? It'll be much faster than instructions over irc [05:35] I.e. mount / and efi, chroot, apt update, see if updates were interrupted, and if not, fsck the disk [05:35] not at all, how can i do that? [05:35] Is it ubuntu gnome, or another desktop environment? [05:35] ubuntu gnome [05:35] sudo add-apt-repository universe; sudo apt install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect alkisg.ltsp.org === toolz is now known as Daniel [05:40] Guest51: you had file system errors (fsck -f), but most importantly, you had removed the /bin to /usr/bin symlink [05:43] alkisg, I have no idea how this happened. Do I need to do anything after load? Is there any recommendation on how to avoid such situations? Btw, huge thanks!!! [05:44] Guest51: I know of nothing that would remove /bin, except for the user himself, so no idea how would you prevent it! === Koopzington is now known as Koopz [05:44] Did it boot? [05:45] yes, let me check history) [05:46] (btw that's one of the many many cases where vnc solves the issue in a minute, while via irc we would need an hour to detect that /bin had been removed) [05:47] hi alkisg, care to help me get my mic working via vnc?? : ) [05:47] Hehe :D [05:47] It records through audacity but not seen by web browsers [05:47] or the system really [05:47] Not much experience with that mate, sorry [05:47] no problem. [05:48] have raised all the levels for capture in alsamixer [05:49] lol, from history: 22.8.2021 17:07 sudo rm -rf /bin. [05:49] I know what the card is and where the microphone is but can't get the system to prioritize alsa over pulseaudio [05:49] Guest51: haha, so that's what to avoid :D [05:49] sofcmlmax98390d [05:49] jeffmr: pactl commands can be used to tell pulseaudio to select the correct alsa card by default [05:49] haha, thank you! Tough Sunday I guess. [05:50] jeffmr: ok vnc, I could have a quick look until work starts :D [05:50] thanks [05:50] jeffmr: x11vnc -connect alkisg.ltsp.org [05:50] : D [05:50] ok, I think I have to install it. I'm on gnome mate. [05:50] 21 [05:50] uh oh and I think its wayland [05:50] Yeah, you might also need to sudo add-apt-repository universe [05:51] ...and you'd need to re-login with xorg :D [05:51] f [05:51] do any vnc servers work with wayland? [05:51] I think so, but not reverse ones, where there's no need for port forwarding etc [05:51] Maybe anydesk could also work, not sure [05:52] let me try x11vnc [05:52] maybe mate is on x11 [05:52] mate uses x11, yes [05:52] (but I thought you had gnome) [05:52] well I have mate which I think is gnome 2 [05:53] I don't know that wayland has come to mate yet [05:53] Aaah, don't say gnome then, it confuses people [05:53] Mate doesn't have wayland yet, no [05:53] ok [05:53] installing x11vnc now. [06:02] jeffmr: nah, I thought maybe pulse marked the input as inactive and we could force it, but it doesn't even see that input [06:03] I don't know which configuration file to change for that one; it'd take a long time to find it... wait for someone more experienced with alsa and pulse [06:03] (closed vnc) [06:03] ok, thanks for checking [06:07] its kind of messed up that there are layers of sound environments [06:08] It reflects the development... from beep to single audio to multiple sources and sinks and even networked audio [06:08] a plus of open source I guess [06:08] Both plus and minus :) [06:08] yes [06:09] I'm mostly frustrated that 30 years after linux was started, upstream developers still can't provide their own packaging, instead of relying on distributions. Hopefully appstream metadata will solve this in the far future... [06:10] yeah. [06:10] guess we need to sing them, 'we are the world' [06:10] song reference [06:10] 👍️ [06:13] jeffmr, when you say it is not working for browsers what you mean ? not set mic or your mic is recognized but not sound? [06:13] not set mic [06:14] using mainly for duo or google voice [06:14] there is no mic device recognized in the browser settings on those pages. [06:14] duo.google.com voice.google.com [06:15] also doesn't work for some other apps with audio input and not selectable in preferences [06:16] Bashing-om sup man guest 74 again. iwas able to get in by doing no mode set after going into grub and ubuntu loaded . seems i gotta do that everytime [06:17] video and sound work, just no mic detected [06:18] webchat19: Not a good solution long term. For some reason that I can not fathom the system is mot loading the graphic's module. [06:19] jeffmr, witch browser? chrome or firefox [06:19] yeah this use to be the case before but i had updated something in past versions of other linuxes and it fixed it cant remember was a while ago . coming from windows now [06:19] Bashing-om [06:19]