[01:51] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[05:15] <tohoyn> When will the package theme-d be updated to the newest version in Ubuntu? It has been recently updated in Debian testing.
[05:40] <Mekaneck> tohoyn: probably not
[05:41] <tohoyn> Mekaneck: ?
[05:42] <Mekaneck> tohoyn: saying the package won't be updated to the newest version
[05:42] <Mekaneck> Ubuntu isn't a rolling release
[05:42] <tohoyn> Mekaneck: I mean that the newest version of theme-d updated to the ubuntu development version
[05:43] <Mekaneck> tohoyn: that's something to ask in #ubuntu-next
[05:43] <tohoyn> Mekaneck: ok. tx.
[05:47] <Mekaneck> but again, i don't think it will get the newest version because the feature freeze took place on the 19th the Debian Import Freeze was the 12th of this month
[05:54] <tohoyn> Mekaneck: so is there a freeze in Ubuntu now?
[05:56] <Bashing-om> tohoyn: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2021-August/001295.html <- Impish Indri (to be 21.10) now in Feature Freeze .
[05:57] <tohoyn> tx
[05:58] <Bashing-om> !latest | tohoyn 
[06:01] <Mekaneck> tohoyn: always has been
[06:02] <Mekaneck> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/impish-indri-release-schedule/18540
[06:31] <TJ-> who the heck is Croran? the attitude is extremely toxic and confrontational
[06:47] <tomreyn> i agree, not sure who it is
[06:50] <tomreyn> i gave them a warning in -ops
[07:01] <ducasse> good morning
[07:15] <ducasse> morning TJ- - you got any experience with nucs?
[07:15] <TJ-> ducasse: is that a spelling mistake?
[07:15] <ducasse> i mean intel nuc
[07:15] <TJ-> ducasse: I'm tempted to refer you to a squirrel!
[07:15] <TJ-> OH!!
[07:15] <TJ-> no, sorry
[07:16] <ducasse> kk, i need a new desktop, tempted to go for a simple solution
[07:16] <TJ-> oh, small form factor PC - I thought nuc was just a mobo designation!
[07:17] <TJ-> Typical Intel "Next Unit of Computing"
[07:17] <ducasse> yeah, they're very handy, can even mount them on a vesa mount on the back of your monitor
[07:17] <TJ-> I've been trying to avoid Intel CPUs for some time now
[07:17] <ducasse> the name is a bit pretentious, but we don't let that bother us
[07:18] <ducasse> yeah, i can't find anything similar with a ryzen
[07:24] <tomreyn> but there is
[07:25] <tomreyn> https://www.amd.com/en/products/embedded-minipc-solutions
[07:25] <ducasse> oh? who makes them?
[07:25] <tomreyn> you need to expand that drawer to the bottom to see the makers
[07:25] <ducasse> do they work well with linux?
[07:25] <tomreyn> it's not a complete list, though
[07:26] <tomreyn> i don't know whether they work well with linux. i don't see why not.
[07:26] <ducasse> interesting, thanks
[07:26] <ducasse> i'll check them out
[07:27] <tomreyn> those are just mainboards, you'll find  several brands setting both complete systems and barebones. i know asus has a series based on those.
[07:27] <ducasse> those might even be available here :)
[07:29] <TJ-> I've got AMD based PC Engines APUs for routers; no good for your requirement (based on AMD Geode and no GPU) but they're reliable and full-featured
[07:30] <ducasse> yeah, i'm familiar with those
[07:30] <tomreyn> https://skinflint.co.uk/?cat=sysdiv&xf=450_Mini-PC%7E6764_AMD
[07:31] <tomreyn> https://skinflint.co.uk/?cat=barepc&xf=2508_AMD%7E4249_Mini-PC%7E7675_mit+CPU
[07:31] <tomreyn> the firs tis systems, the second is barebones
[07:33] <tomreyn> this site's product DB is really centric to german speakign countries, you may find better results if you tick all the country boxes on the top
[07:33] <tomreyn> nex tto the country flags
[07:35] <ducasse> 👍
[07:41]  * TJ- slides a Ryxen 7 32-core under ducasse's desk
[07:41] <TJ-> hmmm, that'll be a Chinese knock-off of the Ryzen :D
[07:41] <ducasse> moar heating!
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> https://9to5linux.com/ubuntu-20-04-3-lts-focal-fossa-is-out-with-linux-kernel-5-11-and-mesa-21-graphics-stack