[14:27] <jrwren> rick_h_: did you announce where you are going post Canonical?
[14:27] <jrwren> or are you retiring?
[14:36] <cmaloney> Didn't see the announcement
[14:37] <greg-g> https://twitter.com/mitechie/status/1432305633139830790
[14:37] <greg-g> cmaloney: ^
[14:37] <cmaloney> Thanks.
[14:37] <greg-g> it's merely a tease
[14:37] <cmaloney> Naturally
[14:38] <jrwren> oh! I didn't see the replies.
[14:38] <greg-g> oh, replies, /me reads
[14:38] <greg-g> ah, right on
[14:38] <jrwren> congrats rick_h_ !
[14:39] <cmaloney> woo woo!
[14:39] <cmaloney> Looking forward to pestering you for talks about this at MUG. ;)
[14:40] <jrwren> I too start a new job soon. Still at Cisco. A different team found me on Linked-in and poached me internally.
[14:41] <cmaloney> Is that legal? :)
[14:42] <cmaloney> Congratulations on the new position
[14:48] <cmaloney> I think rick_h_ is the last of this group to work for Canonical
[14:50] <cmaloney> https://pluspora.com/camo/f7ecdc8ad28afa1d27138718c1e75142e01e61c5/68747470733a2f2f6c696272616e65742e64652f70686f746f2f31303533343638343434363132633262396464393865383337333936363239342d302e6a7067
[14:50] <cmaloney> Yes, that link looks suspect. It's an image.
[15:00] <greg-g> *facepalm*
[15:00] <greg-g> cmaloney: and I think you're right re Canonical infiltration
[15:00]  * greg-g pours one out for the OG homies
[15:21] <cmaloney> <3
[15:45] <jrwren> it is legal. kinda cool too, new boss actually talked to my old boss about stealing me before actually making the offer.
[15:46] <jrwren> yeah, i don't know anyone else in SEMI at canonical anymore.
[15:46] <jrwren> Adam Israel maybe? but he was chicago & windsor. I don't think he ever actually lived in MI
[15:56] <cmaloney> yeah, he was usmi-adjacent
[15:56] <cmaloney> I think I know more ex-canonical than actual canonical now
[15:56] <cmaloney> though that's been true for a bit
[15:59] <jrwren> same.
[16:00] <jrwren> did you see jorge's spat on twitter yesterday? I :popcorn: that.
[16:22] <jrwren> good news! https://ubuntu.com/blog/fips-certification-ubuntu-20-04-lts
[16:31] <greg-g> the rant about snaps? saying how Canonical is just pushing tech debt to the app/snap authors?
[16:32] <jrwren> yup.
[16:32] <jrwren> and gustavo saying it isnt' so.
[16:42] <cmaloney> Honestly I can't make a good case for snaps
[16:43] <cmaloney> they're updated less often than appimages, and have more overhead on the system
[16:43] <cmaloney> they're an experiment that hasn't panned out
[16:44] <cmaloney> and yes, they are pushing tech-debt downstream
[16:44] <cmaloney> though one might argue that Docker does the same thing, but folks have more reasons to use Docker than snaps
[16:50] <jrwren> Anyone looking for work? I’m changing roles at Cisco and my old job in a very security minded threatgrid team is open. It is a programming role on a security product.
[16:50] <jrwren> snaps are terrible.
[16:50] <jrwren> i hates them.