[00:56] <user|58> I just bought a new computer, an HP laptop, has AMD cpu, 'razor' of ?? and windowz 10. I want to get rid of wincoz and install kubuntu 21 as soon as I can get it downloaded
[00:56] <mybalzitch> ryzen
[00:57] <user|58> I have cataracts, can't read good, and damn print is too small. Yes. I think ryzen
[01:00] <user|58> Is ryzen 3
[01:03] <user|58> 15 inch touch screen, 2 usb slots 1 usb 'c' and a card read slot
[01:07] <user|58> I'm downloading Kubuntu 20.04 the current LTS. I've had the HP up and it (windoz0 wont read mu mem sticks, will read one card. I have a optical disk dvd reader
[05:17] <tryane> why when i open an installed game, the icons on my panel gets bigger until i close that game?
[05:19] <valorie> that's odd -- I never noticed something that happen, tryane
[05:19] <tryane> valorie: the icons get bigger until i close the game they go back to normal
[05:19] <valorie> I'm not a gamer, but..... does this happen with other programs you open?
[05:19] <tryane> this also happens when i open anbox
[05:20] <valorie> hmmm
[05:20] <valorie> is the game a KDE game?
[05:20] <tryane> no
[05:20] <tryane> Runescape
[05:20] <valorie> I guess I don't run *only* kde apps, but it doesn't happen when I use chrom, or telegram
[05:22] <valorie> you could ask in #kde if you are really interested in more in-depth testing
[05:22] <tryane> telegram opens fine for me
[05:22] <tryane> doesn't change the icon size
[05:22] <tryane> ok thank you
[05:22] <valorie> I'm going to assume that that is intended by the app creators
[05:24] <tryane> i don't know why would they make sonmehting like that anyway
[05:24] <tryane> but maybe
[06:27] <TJ-> valorie: maybe the game is causing either resolution or dpi settings to be changed?
[06:27] <TJ-> oops, that is for tryane ^^^
[07:10] <tryane> TJ-: i don't know if they do honestly
[07:10] <tryane> and good morning sir :)
[07:13] <TJ-> tryane: I've seen that happen in other circumstances but usually the application only forces a change of resoluion if it is running full screen
[07:17] <TJ-> I can imagine it may happen if you're operating multi-monitors and the application goes full-screen on one of them, causing dpi to change on all monitors (per-monitor different resolutions should be fine)
[07:19] <tryane> TJ-: i use laptop screen only
[07:19] <alkisg> He reported that xrandr show the same resolution remains
[07:20] <tryane> also it's windowed so no full screen mode
[07:20] <alkisg> E.g. the terminal doesn't get bigger, only the plasma-panel
[07:20] <tryane> yeah
[07:20] <alkisg> tryane: the panel gets bigger, or just the icons inside the panel?
[07:20] <TJ-> I've been asleep so many have missed some reports. In which case it sounds 'weird' !!
[07:21] <TJ-> could it be a 'scaling' issue ? I do recall in various DEs over the years, the ability to set icon scaling
[07:21] <tryane> the panel and the icons get bigger
[07:22] <alkisg> Do the desktop icons also get bigger?
[07:22] <tryane> i mean it doesn't affect performance but it's annoying to browse firefox for example while playing
[07:23] <tryane> alkisg: i have no desktop icons
[07:23] <alkisg> Create one to see
[07:23] <alkisg> Why, is firefox also getting bigger?
[07:24] <alkisg> I wonder if you mis-reported something, e.g. if xrandr shows the same resolution only because you switched away from the game, which then changed the resolution once more...
[07:25] <tryane> disktop icons remain the same size
[07:25] <tryane> desktop*
[07:25] <tryane> i don't think so, but wait i will try xrandr once more
[07:26] <alkisg> So only the panel is affected, and nothing else at all? Not the desktop icons, no other open apps, not firefox etc...
[07:27] <tryane> xrandr showing the same
[07:27] <tryane> the panel and it's icons, firefox scaling is the same it only flashes for a second when the panel icons gets bigger
[07:29] <alkisg> It might be just kde then, reacting to some "entered game mode" signal...
[07:30] <tryane> ok editing the panel has some setting with icons scaling, i set it to small icons rather than scaling with panel height
[07:30] <tryane> started the game again, the icons are same small size but the panel itself gets bigger
[07:32] <alkisg> Does the game add something to the panel, like a tray icon or something?
[07:33] <alkisg> tryane: btw in the screenshot you uploaded, https://postimg.cc/8s3SMKcQ, are the icons small or large? I can't tell...
[07:35] <tryane> the icons are large in the screenshot, they go back to normal after the game is closed
[07:35] <tryane> it adds no try icon
[07:36] <tryane> I've changed setting for tray icons to not scale with heigh the only thing that's getting bigger now is the panel and the "Date"
[07:36] <alkisg> Can you upload another screenshot where they  are normal?
[07:37] <tryane> ok second
[07:37] <alkisg> I wonder if only the tray icons are affected, or all of them
[07:37] <alkisg> I.e. the colored ones or just the black/white ones
[07:38] <tryane> alkisg: https://postimg.cc/LhPLLs3H
[07:39] <alkisg> Yeah it's just about the tray icons
[07:39] <alkisg> While the other ones, firefox etc, appear the same
[07:41] <tryane> alkisg: another screenshot with the game open https://postimg.cc/vcQLWV8W
[07:49] <TJ-> this is both intriguing and frustrating!
[07:51] <alkisg> tryane: I've heard about some recent changes and bug fixes with the tray icons of kde. Maybe they're responding to some "font size or dpi change" that the game is requesting. I'd consider it a kde bug... maybe you could report it in their bug tracker
[07:53] <tryane> ok thank you for your time and sorry for pain, alkisg && TJ- <3  😅
[07:53] <tryane> will report it
[11:28] <BluesKaj> Hi all
 Hey everyone,
 Today I encountered a problem with my Kubuntu 20.04 which I am not able to solve myself.
 I would appreciate any help given!
 What happened:
 I had Firefox opened, playing some music. Not updates where running in the background and the hours before everything was working perfectly fine. From one moment to the other the everything froze. No music, mousepad wasn't working, keyboard wasn't working, I couldn't even adjust the screen brightness. So I powered the ThinkPad off by holding down the power button.
 I rebooted put in my password to decrypt my hard drive, Kubuntu boots up but after two seconds or so everything freezes again. I am not even able to put in my Kubuntu password because everything is freezing up again so fast. All that is working is the power button to turn off the ThinkPad.
 What other information do you need?
 Thanks a lot in advance.
 Hey everyone,
 Today I encountered a problem with my Kubuntu 20.04 which I am not able to solve myself.
 I would appreciate any help given!
 What happened:
 I had Firefox opened, playing some music. No updates where running in the background and the hours before everything was working perfectly fine. From one moment to the other everything froze. No music, mousepad wasn't working, keyboard wasn't working, I couldn't even adjust the screen brightness. So I powered the ThinkPad off by holding down the power button.
 I rebooted put in my password to decrypt my hard drive, Kubuntu boots up but after two seconds or so everything freezes again. I am not even able to put in my Kubuntu password because everything is freezing up again so fast. All that is working is the power button to turn off the ThinkPad.
 Hey everyone,
 Today I encountered a problem with my Kubuntu 20.04 which I am not able to solve myself.
 I would appreciate any help given!
 What happened:
 I had Firefox opened, playing some music. No updates where running in the background and the hours before everything was working perfectly fine. From one moment to the other everything froze. No music, mousepad wasn't working, keyboard wasn't working, I couldn't even adjust the screen brightness. So I powered the ThinkPad off by holding down the power button.
 I rebooted put in my password to decrypt my hard drive, Kubuntu boots up but after two seconds or so everything freezes again. I am not even able to put in my Kubuntu password because everything is freezing up again so fast. All that is working is the power button to turn off the ThinkPad.
[22:06] <krytarik> @tim_goe: Could you please stop reposting?
 I am sorry. I didn't repost but adjusted the original post and added some information. I didn't know that this would have the same effect as a reposts. Won't do it again.
 /help@join_captcha_bot
[22:35] <gnoob> IrcsomeBot: I am not really going to be much help but whhen this happens can you press "Ctrl + Alt + F3" to get to a new terminal and then do a #sudo gmesg to see what the error might be?
[22:37] <gnoob> I have an issue where my machine will freeze up and mouse still moves  and if sound is playing it will continue but the screen will usually go black and I have to reboot.  I play to try this next time the CTRL  + ALT + F3.   If not I just set up SSH on the PC so I can SSH in and maybe check that way.
[22:42] <gnoob> why is that name showing up as "<IrcsomeBot> <tim_goe>" on my client?
 When I press CTRL+ALT+F3 the screen turns black for a short while and then I see something like this:
 [   128.400445] Call trace:
 ...
 running down the screen with increasing number size and text that does not tell me anything.
 Thanks for trying to help.
 I am writing within the Telegram Group. Might that be the reason?
[22:45] <gnoob> ah, OK, i see about the name.
[22:47] <imLEGR> Hello. My computer won't boot after installing kubuntu
[22:47] <imLEGR> Hello. My computer won't boot after installing kubuntu
[22:48] <gnoob> imLEGR: you are going to need to give these people more details than that.  What do you see, hear, anything.  What happens when you press power.
[22:49] <gnoob> tim_goe : Yeah, I wish I could help more but I am just a noob.
[22:49] <gnoob> and I am having a similar issue that I hope to resolve :)
[22:51] <imLEGR> I installed kubuntu. Used the automatic mode. After the reboot it told me to remove the flash drive. I pulled it out and pressed Enter. The computer rebooted and instead of the system I see the MAG logo of my motherboard
[22:51] <gnoob> hmm, the boot loader maybe did not install correctly?  Are you trying to dual boot?
[22:53] <imLEGR> No, only kubuntu
[22:54] <imLEGR> Do I need another partition for uefi?
[22:55] <gnoob> Did you tell it to use the entire disk?
[22:55] <gnoob> if so I think it would create everything is needs.  But I am not 100% confident in that.
[22:57] <gnoob> https://www.ubuntupit.com/how-to-repair-the-grub-bootloader-using-a-ubuntu-live-usb-drive/   maybe something like this could help?  I don't think it could hurt.
[22:57] <gnoob> but maybe somoene with more knowledge can offer something else.
[22:58] <imLEGR> Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/448c643edc00c3476e266e3fe8aae8b7/Screenshot_20210901_225650.png
[22:59] <imLEGR> Did you tell it to use the entire disk? yes
[23:06] <gnoob> hmm, the left..
[23:06] <gnoob> they