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windows10ip addres de hamster07:03
windows10despues de la mia o antes07:03
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windows10Linda Noche , no crees?07:04
alkisg!es07:05
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.07:05
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user|25Hi, is it a good practice to have manual partition for Kubuntu 20.04.3 installation?08:08
user|25like /, /boot, /swap, /home?08:08
alkisgIt's personal preference. E.g. I have different / and /home, and a swap partition, but not separate /boot08:16
alkisgUbuntu defaults to a "swap file" now, but I prefer a swap partition; also I don't use any weird file systems so I don't need a separate /boot08:16
alkisgSo it depends on how you plan to use your system...08:17
user|25Thank you. I have seen people also do a separate efi parition.08:22
alkisgIf you're installing under UEFI, yes an efi partition is mandatory08:23
alkisgWhile for BIOS mode, there's no need08:23
alkisgFor recent computers, GPT/UEFI is more common than not08:23
user|25Ok great. I have a 1 TB SSD, and want to keep 100GB free space for future Windows dual boot. Also will  have virtualbox installed08:25
user|25Is this a good to go /boot - 10GB , Swap - 32GB (I have 16GB RAM), / - 250GB and /home - available free space08:26
user|25Is it a good to go?08:26
alkisgHere's what I have, for  my 1 TB: https://termbin.com/9u2208:27
alkisgIt allows me to boot in either UEFI or BIOS mode; it has 100 GB for Windows; some swap too etc etc. No /boot needed unless you want to do very fancy things08:28
lordievader10Gigs for /boot? Mine are lucky to get 256M.08:28
alkisg# du -sh /boot08:29
alkisg344M/boot08:29
alkisg256 MB is too little nowadays08:29
alkisgOne initramfs is 100 MB, and at least two are needed (current and previous), plus one on upgrades => at least 400 MB08:29
user|25@lordievader :)08:30
user|25@alkisg thank you08:30
alkisgnp08:30
TJ-if you're not moving the install around on a portable device, then reduce the size of the initrd by setting "MODULES=dep" in /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf09:49
TJ-modules/firmware included in initrd are only there to help find and mount the root file-system09:49
* alkisg would love it if all the KMS drivers were NOT included in the initramfs, it would get it down to 20 MB or so ...09:52
alkisgJust for a fancy plymouth, we get giant initramfs's :D09:53
lordievader<alkisg> "One initramfs is 100 MB, and..." <- Brr, my initramfs'es are around the 20-30MB mark. Granted I'm not running Kubuntu.09:54
lordievaderAnd a kernel of 15-20 MB.09:54
lordievaderOeh, my desktop has it even better, 8M kernel and 13M initramfs.09:55
alkisgOlivier: if you're using debian, it doesn't include all the firmware by default, like ubuntu; if you install all the firmware files (or install debian with the CDs with firmware included), then it reaches the Ubuntu sizes09:55
lordievaderYeah, price to pay to have it "run on anything".09:56
alkisgDebian doesn't like the proprietary firmware, while Ubuntu defaults to using it09:56
TJ-alkisg: I've carried my own patches to initramfstools that stop the unwanted GPU and firmware modules (and others) being included, and that reduces initrd.img to ~16MB ... had it as low as 8MB on some lean server systems09:58
TJ-see my investigation project notes at https://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/initramfs-tools/09:59
alkisgTJ-, thanks for the link, will read it while walking home; I had also experimented with initramfs's size because my schools use netbooting, and it adds seconds to booting time; but it's too much work to keep a sane list up to date, AND have the same image work in all PCs of all schools...10:02
alkisg(ltsp uses a single image for all school PCs)10:03
TJ-I've done it for ltsp too; basically have each client send a list of its required modules to the server where the combined list is created, and have 2 entries in the boot config (one for the 'full' initrd and one for the 'slim' and simply change the default boot entry to be used (or alternatively have TFTP deliver a different initd depending on server-side config)10:04
alkisgSure, if the server maintained a combined-known.initrd and a full-unknown.initrd for e.g10:11
alkisga teacher's own laptop, that could work, but it would be very hard to provide the infrastructure for that10:11
alkisgAutomatically and securely sending data to the server from netbooted clients is a chapter on its own10:14
alkisgIt could even be done at a lower level, files in initramfs that were never opened could be omitted. Not just modules but binaries and libraries too10:23
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alf75What you think of last version of Kubuntu ?10:58
alf75In less than 30 seconds the OS is working with autentication, and random MAC working10:58
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IrcsomeBot<Niggolas> Hello, is there a way to install ruqola (https://apps.kde.org/ruqola/) on Kubuntu, besides compiling?11:12
bitbang@Niggolas you can download nighty appimages from here https://binary-factory.kde.org/job/Ruqola_Nightly_appimage/11:33
IrcsomeBot<Niggolas> Thank you! (re @IrcsomeBot: <bitbang> @Niggolas you can download nighty appimages from here https://binary-factory.kde.org/job/Ruqola_Nightly_appimage/)11:37
BluesKajHi folks12:11
user|59hi! Best way to make usb live for kub is unetbootin or win32?12:37
BluesKajuser|59, in windows the best method is to use Rufus. Unetbootin is buggy, not recommended. https://linuxconfig.org/create-bootable-ubuntu-20-04-usb-startup-disk12:52
simon_Hi everyone, just decided to try Kubuntu for the first time ever, guess what?? I LIKE IT!! ive been missing out.13:29
DragnslcrYup, it's been great for me for well over a decade13:31
DragnslcrGlad you're enjoying it13:31
simon_certainly looks and feels nicer that ubuntu14:00
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IrcsomeBot<projektfarbrausch> 98UE14:39
IrcsomeBot<DPRanjiida> Projekt 😂15:37
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gnoobwill adding the  repository add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports  to kubuntu get me to Plasma 5.22.4 .  Not sure I need it but might as well install it it if i can21:15
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