[11:22] <zxmpi> my dumb nokia phone crashed... that's the first time since i bought it that that has happene... weird...
[11:47] <daftykins> :O
[11:48] <daftykins> total freeze up of the UI?
[11:56] <zxmpi> locked up and a low buzz for a second. then non responsive to any keypress. just popped the battery for 2 seconds and rebooted. no data loss. 
[11:56] <zxmpi> just have to hope it doesn't happen again
[11:58] <zxmpi> mind, they did just release a new nokia dumbphone... https://www.phonearena.com/news/nokia-6310-2021-version_id133884
[12:01] <daftykins> nice
[12:01] <daftykins> hmm let's see what radio tech it employs given the talk of switching off 2G and 3G
[12:02] <daftykins> not a word
[12:02] <zxmpi> i think it's called 2.5g in the 3310 which seems to be a 3g phone limited to 2g speeds iirc
[12:04] <zxmpi> the 4yo battery in the 3310 though is getting a bit knackered. after 2 days use battery drops to 90%
[12:05] <daftykins> ooh my
[12:05] <daftykins> https://www.publictechnology.net/articles/news/minister-pledges-%E2%80%98clear-roadmap%E2%80%99-scaling-back-2g-and-3g-networks
[12:13] <zxmpi> i use mobile data 1-2 times a year. 2g was fast enough for me. 0 interest in super duper fast speeds
[12:14] <daftykins> pretty sure the meaning is the entire platform to allow dumbphones to connect for calls, SMS, or anything
[12:16] <zxmpi> i remember the bidding war for 4g and the extreme lack of interest when it was released leaving the companies owing a lot of money for something none really wanted
[12:18] <zxmpi> and 5g has the nutters burning down phone masts
[12:20] <daftykins> scary how much dumb there is in the world
[12:37] <zxmpi> thank goodness the mask mandates and vaccine push to stop people dying has redirected their limited attention elsewhere
[12:38] <daftykins> heh
[12:43] <penguin42> anyone know of a site actually with speed maps for 3/4/5g ?
[12:45] <daftykins> ofcom has 'em right?
[12:46] <daftykins> https://checker.ofcom.org.uk/
[12:47] <penguin42> daftykins: That gives me 'availability' of 4G, but doesn't give speeds, or 5G
[12:47] <daftykins> oh right, yeah good luck with that :D
[12:48]  * penguin42 is curious what's avialable faster on mobile; giffgaff and 3G only give me about 3-4MBps
[12:48] <penguin42> sorry
[12:48] <penguin42> giffgaff and 3
[12:50] <daftykins> probably on a capped plan
[12:51] <daftykins> oh MB isn't as bad as i was thinking
[12:51] <penguin42> no, it's b
[12:51] <penguin42> daftykins: does giffgaff cap like that?
[12:53] <daftykins> not sure, but i've noticed a trend for low scale plans lately in my local telcos to have really paltry speed caps, so could be
[12:54] <penguin42> seems silly when for giffgaff I'm paying for a goodybag of '10GB' for a month to slow my access to that pot
[12:58] <daftykins> seems they claim not to
[13:54] <m0nkey_> Heh, sounds much unlike how Canada's cell networks operate.