[05:14] <KGB-0> rygel Janitor 259255 * commented merge request !3 * https://deb.li/3a1Gz
[05:17] <KGB-0> rygel Janitor 259257 * commented merge request !2 * https://deb.li/3I3cI
[05:50] <didrocks> good morning
[05:52] <duflu> Morning didrocks 
[05:53] <didrocks> hey duflu 
[06:51] <jpnurmi> hey didrocks and duflu
[06:51] <didrocks> hey jpnurmi 
[06:53] <duflu> Hi jpnurmi 
[06:55] <jibel> Good mornign all
[06:57] <duflu> Hi jibel 
[06:58] <jpnurmi> morning jibel
[07:06] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:06] <oSoMoN> happy Friday!
[07:07] <jpnurmi> good morning, oSoMoN
[07:17] <oSoMoN> hey jpnurmi 
[07:19] <didrocks> hey oSoMoN 
[07:29] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[07:31] <ricotz> good morning everyone
[07:33] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN, seb128, ricotz 
[07:35] <jpnurmi> hey seb128 and ricotz
[07:35] <didrocks> hey seb128, ricotz 
[07:48] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks, seb128 
[07:48] <oSoMoN> good morning ricotz 
[07:48] <oSoMoN> hey duflu 
[07:49] <jpnurmi> hey ricotz
[08:05] <laney> yoooooooooo
[08:07] <duflu> Hi laney 
[08:08] <laney> hey duflu 
[08:08] <oSoMoN> yo laney 
[08:17] <jamesh> oSoMoN: this morning, I was playing testing out my Elf dependency checking code for snaps, and ran it on the Firefox snap: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rqvjWMZK2z/
[08:18] <jamesh> oSoMoN: some of those are definitely false positives (e.g. bindtextdomain.so at the top), but it does look like the snap is shipping a few libraries shadowing ones from the platform snap, and also possibly some unused libraries
[08:18] <duflu> jamesh, a lot of those are related to Mir. Who's linking to Mir libraries then?
[08:18] <duflu> Old ones at that
[08:19] <duflu> Maybe gtk/gdk?
[08:20] <jamesh> duflu: the snap is based on core18, so I don't think the mir deps were a thing at that point
[08:21] <seb128> hey duflu, ricotz, jpnurmi, didrocks, oSoMoN, laney, jamesh, how are you today on this friday?
[08:21] <jamesh> seb128: good.
[08:21] <duflu> jamesh, obviously something is linking to old Mir so I would find out what. It brings a lot of baggage
[08:23] <seb128> jamesh, is that the current store snap or the new snap oSoMoN is working on?
[08:24] <jamesh> seb128: it was the edge channel one. Is that still the old one?
[08:24] <seb128> I think so, I don't think the new one made it to the store yet
[08:24] <jamesh> ah. Let me rerun the checker
[08:25] <seb128> but it's quite different, the current one is bundling the build from mozilla's CI wherfe the new one is building from source
[08:25] <didrocks> seb128: good good :)
[08:26] <callmepk> good morning/afternoon didrocks duflu jpnurmi jibel oSoMoN seb128 ricotz laney jamesh 
[08:26] <didrocks> hey callmepk 
[08:26] <jamesh> seb128: I guess one of these builds is what to look at? https://launchpad.net/~mozilla-snaps/firefox/+snap/firefox-snap-stable
[08:27] <seb128> jamesh, correct, I was just checking the url, that's the one
[08:27] <laney> hey duflu oSoMoN seb128 callmepk 
[08:27] <laney> seb128: I am weird
[08:28] <jpnurmi> hey callmepk laney
[08:29] <jamesh> oSoMoN, seb128: here's a run based on a build from that recipe: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/q5ydK9DN8p/
[08:29] <seb128> laney, sad day :-(
[08:29] <seb128> jamesh, that resolves the mir question at least :)
[08:29] <jamesh> yeah
[08:29] <laney> moin jpnurmi 
[08:30] <didrocks> hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey hey laney
[08:30] <didrocks> one per year :p
[08:32] <laney> :>
[08:32] <laney> lot has happened in that time eh
[08:37] <jamesh> seb128: I suspect that a number of the libraries coming up unused there are dlopened by Firefox. It does show that the snap is shipping libicudata though, which is pretty chunky and provided by the platform snap
[08:43] <oSoMoN> jamesh, thanks, that's useful information! from a cursory glance, the majority of those libs are for video/audio decoding, and are indeed dlopen'ed
[08:44] <oSoMoN> libicudata also appears to be a dependency of one of those codec libs, I can't tell which one right now but I have it explicitly listed in the corresponding part's prime section
[08:45] <jamesh> oSoMoN: there's a copy of the same libicudata in the platform snap
[08:45] <oSoMoN> if it's the same version then I'll remove it
[08:45] <jamesh> so dropping will probably save 10+ MB
[08:46] <jamesh> (its 27MB uncompressed: not sure where it ends up after lzo compression)
[08:47] <jamesh> or lzma as the case might be
[08:49] <Wimpy> Morning o/
[08:49] <Wimpy> seb128: I uploaded MATE packages a couple of weeks back. 
[08:50] <Wimpy> Had some build failures on RISC and ARM that I cleaned up. 
[08:51] <Wimpy> But, lots of the packages are not transitioning from proposed. And excuses doesn't indicate why. 
[08:51] <Wimpy> What have I missed? 
[08:52] <oSoMoN> morning Wimpy 
[08:52] <oSoMoN> blocked on glibc, like most of the archive, maybe?
[08:54] <seb128> Wimpy, could give an name example?
[08:55] <duflu> The world eagerly awaits https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glib2.0/2.68.4-1
[08:57] <seb128> duflu, it's glibc which is blocking most things
[08:57] <laney> woot, I am happy that got synced again
[08:57] <laney> but it's glib*c* not glib
[08:57] <laney> that name collision is funny
[08:57] <seb128> Wimpy, https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html indicates most are blocked on glibc indeed
[08:59] <seb128> Wimpy, there are also ayatana indicators blocked due to bug  #1910192 still
[08:59] <duflu> OK, well I eagerly await the glib update because it blocks gnome-shell
[09:00] <seb128> duflu, someone needs to poke at the autopkgtest regressions before we get it to migrate
[09:00] <seb128> Wimpy, that's lomiri-url-dispatcher not compatible with newer mir versions
[09:00] <duflu> Sadly it's also too old still. A newer version is required in Gnome 41
[09:01] <seb128> right, we failed to get 2.69 this cycle
[09:09] <KGB-1> gnome-icon-theme Iain Lane 259282 * commented merge request !2 * https://deb.li/c4Td
[09:10] <Wimpy> Ah, thanks duflu seb128. 
[09:11] <Wimpy> I did wonder if it was glibc. The message in excuses wasn't clear to me. 
[09:12] <Wimpy> Thanks for pointing out the Ayatana and Lomiri issues. I'll investigate. 
[09:13] <seb128> Wimpy, which message? if you check a random one, for example https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#mate-power-manager you see
[09:13] <seb128> 'Issues preventing migration:
[09:13] <seb128> Depends: mate-power-manager glibc (not considered)
[09:13] <seb128> Invalidated by dependency '
[09:14] <seb128> Wimpy, do you have any wording change suggestion that would it easier to understand?
[09:15] <Wimpy> It's the "not considered"
[09:15] <Wimpy> It not clear what isn't being consider. The package or it's depends. 
[09:16] <seb128> I see, thanks for the feedback!
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[14:04] <laney> lol at that
[14:04] <laney> we should probably find a way to reduce all that noise ¬_¬
[14:18] <KGB-1> gnome-icon-theme Janitor 259333 * commented merge request !1 * https://deb.li/frqF
[16:17] <charafau[m]> is someone using impish as daily driver on desktop? how stable is it atm ?
[17:08] <laney> yep, speaking to you from it now
[17:08] <laney> seems good
[17:26] <charafau[m]> nice, thanks! need newer wayland from impish but I want to run the same distro as my desktop
[17:26] <charafau[m]> time to download ISO I guess