[00:03] <IrcsomeBot> <Anarchotaoist> Hello all! Every time I am shutting the laptop lid, either with or without locking the screen first, Kubuntu will restart. Once it even went to a diagnostics tool - and passed. Before this it even took a few tries before it would reboot. I suspect this behaviour started after a Dell firmware update. What can I troubleshoot? Thanks.
[00:04] <IrcsomeBot> <Anarchotaoist> Hello all! Every time I am shutting the laptop lid, either with or without locking the screen first, Kubuntu will restart after opening the lid. Once it even went to a diagnostics tool - and passed. Before this it even took a few tries before it would reboot. I suspect this behaviour started after a Dell firmware update. What can I troubleshoot? Thanks.
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[01:29] <IrcsomeBot> <gilbertoferreira> Hi there. I am using Hirsute here.
[01:29] <IrcsomeBot> <gilbertoferreira> Don't know if this is Ubuntu related but I have a laptop with dual amd display:
[01:30] <IrcsomeBot> <gilbertoferreira> 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Wani [Radeon R5/R6/R7 Graphics] [1002:9874] (rev c8)03:00.0 Display controller [0380]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Lexa PRO [Radeon 540/540X/550/550X / RX 540X/550/550X] [1002:699f] (rev c3)Is there any way to force Ubuntu/Kubuntu to use radeon driver instead amdgpu? : https://irc-attachments.kde.org/e90544da/file_47308.jpg
[01:31] <IrcsomeBot> <gilbertoferreira> I already tried kernel options in grub:
[01:31] <IrcsomeBot> <gilbertoferreira> cat /proc/cmdline
[01:31] <IrcsomeBot> <gilbertoferreira> BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-5.14.1-051401-lowlatency root=UUID=9333b511-d139-4b17-ac4f-ad0d05323702 ro quiet splash apparmor=0 radeon.cik_support=1 radeon.si_support=1 amdgpu.cik_support=0 amdgpu.si_support=0 kvm-amd.nested=1 vt.handoff=7
[01:31] <IrcsomeBot> <gilbertoferreira> Already tried edit /etc/modules:
[01:32] <IrcsomeBot> <gilbertoferreira> I already tried kernel options in grub:
[01:32] <IrcsomeBot> <gilbertoferreira> cat /proc/cmdline
[01:32] <IrcsomeBot> <gilbertoferreira> BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-5.14.1-051401-lowlatency root=UUID=9333b511-d139-4b17-ac4f-ad0d05323702 ro quiet splash apparmor=0 radeon.cik_support=1 radeon.si_support=1 amdgpu.cik_support=0 amdgpu.si_support=0 kvm-amd.nested=1 vt.handoff=7
[01:32] <IrcsomeBot> <gilbertoferreira> Already tried edit /etc/modules:
[01:32] <IrcsomeBot> <gilbertoferreira> cat /etc/modules
[01:32] <IrcsomeBot> <gilbertoferreira> # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.
[08:35] <memphisto> hi, how to run gui app from my desktop as different local user ?
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[10:58] <IrcsomeBot> <Andre> Hello guys, new to here. Would like to ask a question about kubuntu. If I download the ubuntu server and install KDE desktop environment, is it same as kubuntu?
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[11:36] <Mekaneck> @Andre No
[12:10] <nmrp3> hi - I'm trying to unbreak my kubuntu network manager
[12:11] <nmrp3> I'm on 21.04
[12:11] <nmrp3> The network tray aplet says "Networks Disconnected"
[12:12] <nmrp3> if I open it, it is completely blank - it doesn't even have the flight mode checkbox
[12:12] <nmrp3> I had to manually bring up a network connection with `ifconfig usb0 up && dhclient usb0`
[12:16] <TJ-> nmrp3: is the service running? "systemctl status NetworkManager"
[12:16] <nmrp3> :TJ- yes it is - active (running)
[12:17] <TJ-> nmrp3: is this USB interface the only network interface on the system?
[12:17] <nmrp3> I should say this sytem has been upgraded since bionic, so it's possible there's some cruft from earlier versions
[12:17] <TJ-> nmrp3: check also "nmcli con" to list connections that NM knows of / manages
[12:18] <nmrp3> :TJ- the USB teather is what I have to use right now - the motherboard has a nic, which is what I usually use when my broadband provider is providing broadband
[12:19] <nmrp3> `nmcli con` listed 4 connections - usb, the nic, and two bluetooth teathers for old phones
[12:19] <TJ-> nmrp3: right, and is NM reporting the wired interface too? Trying to discover why your GUI applet may not be displaying those
[12:19] <TJ-> ok, so nmcli confirms it can see the Ethernet wired device
[12:19] <nmrp3> so none of the 4 listed connections have an associated DEVICE
[12:20] <nmrp3> the network manager broke when I upgraded to hersuite
[12:21] <TJ-> nmrp3: hmmm, do any of those preconfigured connections in NM have any user-entered data / passphrases you cannot easily recall? If not I'd recommend deleting them all and stopping/starting (not just a restart) the NetworkManager service and let it redisciver them
[12:22] <nmrp3> no, they are all vanilla
[12:22] <TJ-> nmrp3: also, Ubuntu configures NM by default not to manage wired ethernet devices - wondering if that also affects USB since they are usually USb CDC-Ethernet
[12:23] <nmrp3> so should I go to "CONFIGURE network connections" and delete them all?>
[12:23] <TJ-> " cat  /usr/lib/NetworkManager/conf.d/10-globally-managed-devices.conf "
[12:23] <TJ-> you'll likely see "unmanaged-devices=*,except:type:wifi,except:type:gsm,except:type:cdma"
[12:24] <TJ-> so first it says "I won't manage any devices at all (*), except wifi, gsm, cdma
[12:24] <nmrp3> unmanaged-devices=*,except:type:wifi,except:type:gsm,except:type:cdma
[12:24] <TJ-> nmrp3: so we could try blanking that out with an override
[12:25] <TJ-> nmrp3: "sudo ln -s /dev/null /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/10-globally-managed-devices.conf"
[12:25] <TJ-> nmrp3: that over-rides the package-installed config. Restart NM and if you're lucky it may see and manage the USB and the Wired Connection
[12:26] <TJ-> nmrp3: I /think/ that is the correct way to do; if /dev/null redirect doesn't help, we'll have to replace that with a file that removes the setting specifically
[12:27] <nmrp3> `Job for NetworkManager.service failed because the control process exited with error code.`
[12:27] <nmrp3> that was on start for the service
[12:28] <nmrp3> I don't think it likes the /dev/null
[12:28] <TJ-> hmmm, what does "journalctl -u NetworkManager -n 30" show ?
[12:28] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:28] <TJ-> nmrp3: pretty sure I've used /dev/null in the past
[12:30] <nmrp3> shall I softlink it back and check it at least starts?
[12:30] <TJ-> nmrp3: yes
[12:32] <nmrp3> it restarted
[12:32] <TJ-> nmrp3: yes, I tested it here, it complained "not a regular file" so maybe it is just an empty file using touch
[12:33] <TJ-> ahh yes, "sudo touch /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/10-globally-managed-devices.conf"
[12:33] <TJ-> I get so used to using /dev/null with systemd I tend to forget
[12:37] <nmrp3> thanks! That's brought everything back
[12:39] <nmrp3> after a delay where things timed out and stuff
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[15:25] <IrcsomeBot> <kata_nsomnium> 6IOY
[15:25] <IrcsomeBot> <kata_nsomnium> 6hoy
[15:28] <BluesKaj> o/
[16:02] <Bongwitcher> A bit meta question: what's the technical differences between this chat and the Telegram one? I've noticed that at least Telegram chat shows messages from here, but in here i cannot see the message history
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[16:23] <kpowgames> Hello, can somebody point me in the right direction? I've installed Kubuntu 21.04 some days ago and I've been using it since, unaware that I was working with it under the "oem" username. Now I foolishly accessed the "ship to end user" and lost all the things I did under the oem user. How can I get all the settings and apps I had on the OEM user?
[16:23] <kpowgames> This user doesn't appear in the users list
[16:53] <IrcsomeBot> <f001010> Hi, I have an Nvidia GPU (GTX 970), and I want to install latest mainline kernel for (K)Ubuntu. Also, how can I access to and install latest releases of software that is not in the repos by default. Btw, is Kubuntu and Ubuntu repos the same or they are two different ones?
[17:30] <tomreyn> f001010: to your second question (i assume the first one can only fail, but don't want to bother with nvidia): there's a kubuntu-backports PPA, which i think is optional for kubuntu. other than that it'S the same repositories as for ubuntu.
[17:31] <tomreyn> generally, if you want newer software version, you upgrade to the newer release. or you look for a trustable third party source.
[17:32] <tomreyn> maybe a PPA, but those are generally unsupported by (k)ubuntu (except for the kubuntu-backports PPA, i assume).
[17:32] <tomreyn> !latest
[17:32] <ubottu> Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.
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[17:49] <IrcsomeBot> <f001010> Thx for the info
[17:49] <IrcsomeBot> <f001010> Do you know why not all PPAs won't work on Kubuntu compared to Ubuntu?
[17:54] <alkisg> That's not true. PPAs that work on Ubuntu also work for all other flavors
[17:58] <IrcsomeBot> <f001010> Now I am on the installer screen. How shall I partition my drive for btrfs installation
[17:58] <IrcsomeBot> <f001010> I have a UEFI motherboard with BIOS compatibility support
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[22:27] <IrcsomeBot> <Sheik_Manzoor> I want to install windows app on kubuntu
[22:27] <IrcsomeBot> <Sheik_Manzoor> Any suggestions
[22:28] <gnoob> I think a virtual machine might be your only option.
[22:28] <gnoob> and people here can probably recommend an alternate.
[22:29] <gnoob> I guess WINE might work depending on what it is.
[22:38] <lethu> you can use wine
[22:38] <lethu> at winehq, google it
[22:44] <gnoob> if it's games you might try Steam Proton
[22:45] <IrcsomeBot> <f001010> Kubuntu is amazing
[22:45] <IrcsomeBot> <f001010> Just installed KDE connect
[22:45] <IrcsomeBot> <f001010> PPAs are wonderful and really useful
[22:45] <IrcsomeBot> <f001010> Ubuntu is top-notch supported
[22:45] <IrcsomeBot> <f001010> Yayy
[23:01] <IrcsomeBot> <DarinMiller> /me also likes ubuntu/kubuntu...:)
[23:09] <IrcsomeBot> <projektfarbrausch> /me