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paulbxmy 21.04 install, which i've been using happily for months (plus the years of the previous versions), has gotten broken somehow. looks like driver problems -- video is 640x480, wifi card doesn't show up, sound doesn't work, etc. my question is: how do i reinstall the OS without wiping my file01:49
paulbx...files and apps?  lots of instructions on line for doing this with previous versions, but the 21.04 installer is not allowing me to choose that option01:49
paulbx(perhaps because there's a windows bootloader and windows partition on the drive? i dunno)01:50
paulbxi don't care about keeping the windows partition. i have a backup of my ubuntu partition.  i just want to get my system usable again. i can't find a path with the installer that doesn't lead to a format/partition step/01:54
guivercpaulbx; use something-else/manual/manual-partitioning, select exist partitions & ensure no format is selected - it'll cause a upgrade-via-reinstall or repair-installation type of install  (desktop installs)02:10
noarbShould installing ffmpeg on ubuntu 21.04 be enough to stream a network device that is h.264 through vlc? The same network source is working for me on mac, not on ubuntu02:52
noarbthe logs of vlc just say "only real/helix rtsp servers"03:10
tp43_I install autotools. And there is supposed to be an amhello tar bar that ships with it. Please help me find it in my filesystem.03:23
ledenitp43_, /usr/share/doc/automake/amhello-1.0.tar.gz03:29
tp43_ledeni, thx03:31
tp43_ledeni, I do not have it03:32
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sub526I am having an Ubuntu PC, is it possible to run few commands on system startup automatically?06:24
guiverc2sub526, there are many ways (more if using a desktop too), https://askubuntu.com/questions/814/how-to-run-scripts-on-start-up ; on any login, on startup, on specific login etc06:27
guiverc2ignore the entries related to upstart in link I provided ; Ubuntu no longer uses it06:28
sub526guiverc2: thanks, will try that now.06:29
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Swift110-mobilehmm06:47
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Hashhttps://bpa.st/EF7A Does this make any sense? What did I do wrong? I'm trying to pin dovecot and when I try to update the system, it wants to update it too07:11
Hashhttps://bpa.st/VHMQ policy07:12
Hash2.2 is installed and pinned. or wait... oh 'h' hold package. ohhmm07:13
ren0v0@TJ-, removing those udev rules didn't help with keyboard/mouse freezing :(07:13
Hashahhh it's apt-mark hold dovecot07:13
TJ-ren0v0: I don't recall what the issue was, sorry07:19
LeyLa21Fhi07:39
Kelhallo07:39
guivercG'day Kel & LeyLa21F, if you have a Ubuntu support question, please just ask it (try and keep to a single line & be patient waiting for replies).07:46
LeyLa21Fhelp me pls07:46
LeyLa21Fmy websitesi chat rooms add pls07:47
Kelguiverc: ah, sorry, was replying to LeyLa21F. I try to be helpful when I can =) Back about a decade ago I converted Forum support replies to the Wiki.07:47
guiverc:) Kel07:48
guivercLeyLa21F, if english is not your native language; you may find other IRC rooms that are easier to use (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList & look in Local Ubuntu channels)07:51
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StanleyAnyone have any luck connecting to a share on MacOS from Ubuntu?08:06
Stanleysmbclient -u stanley //192.168.1.72/Share promps for my password and t hen I get08:06
Stanleysession setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE08:06
cbreakyou could try sshfs via ssh08:22
cesdoHello all09:13
lotuspsychjewelcome cesdo09:15
lavaballis there still a difference between debian and ubuntu these days?09:35
alkisgYeah, it's constantly increasing...09:45
lavaballlike?09:45
lavaballdid debian also not run on haswell cpus one day?09:45
alkisgWrite: dpkg -l | grep ubuntu09:46
alkisgThese packages are customized for Ubuntu09:46
lavaballis that that big of a change though?09:46
alkisgAlso, there's a different kernel version ,there's snap and a lot of other differences09:46
lavaballoh, right snap!09:46
alkisgIt depends on what you mean "big"09:46
alkisgIt's millions of code lines, and maybe 1% of the code base?09:46
lavaballthe question is what does gnome look like out of the box?09:47
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alkisgNo idea, I stopped using gnome a decade ago09:48
alkisgWhen they stopped supporting older computers09:48
lavaballyeah, i keep having issues with it and my users don't really use any of the features anyway.09:49
alkisgWe went directly from gnome2 to mate, without bothering with gnome3 or unity09:50
privato89Hi guys, I got an issue with an apt: It starts only once, if I close it, it would not open anymore. I noticed that to start it I need to kill the process or to reboot the system. Is there a solution?09:50
alkisgAs many of our PCs didn't have 3d acceleration09:50
alkisgprivato89: what's the exact command and the exact error message?09:51
privato89No one error, it just doesn't start if I click on that apt09:51
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privato89only if I kill the process it will start again09:52
alkisg"apt" is a command line program, so it's strange that you say you "click on it"09:53
alkisgAre you talking about something else?09:53
alkisgE.g. usually a command is like: sudo apt update09:53
privato89sorry, I am talking about the app icon09:53
privato89the programm is xpad09:53
alkisgOK, wait for someone that is using that program09:55
EriC^^privato89: maybe try to fiddle with the preferences, maybe it's hiding itself but tray isnt enabled or something, right-click > preferences09:56
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PhalanxerHey all!10:22
PhalanxerSo I am trying to get PostgreSQL working but having a problem because the maintainers of Ubuntu's PostgreSQL decided to hack it up and not bother documenting the changes.10:23
PhalanxerThe documentation hasn't even been updated for 6 years, for real.10:24
PhalanxerSo according to PostgreSQL's documentation, I need to use the program 'pg_ctl' to send the 'SIGTERM' signal to the master postgres process. https://www.postgresql.org/docs/12/server-shutdown.html10:25
PhalanxerThe problem is, Ubuntu's hacked up PostgreSQL version does not have the 'pg_ctl' program in it, and no one bothered documenting how sending the 'SIGTERM' signal to the master postgres process can be done.10:26
PhalanxerDoes anyone know how it can be done?10:26
PhalanxerOh, and here's Ubuntu's ancient and lacking documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL10:27
rbasakPhalanxer: please be more respectful.10:31
Phalanxerrbasak: What does respect have to do with it? The rubbish doesn't work.10:31
rbasakhttps://ubuntu.com/community/code-of-conduct10:31
PhalanxerYeah it doesn't interest me.10:31
rbasakI was about to type an answer to your question.10:31
rbasakOK then please leave this channel.10:31
PhalanxerI've just had 4 hours of my life wasted.10:31
PhalanxerNo, I'm here to get a problem solved.10:32
rbasakI'm here to answer questions only to people who respect and follow our code of conduct.10:32
PhalanxerOkay bye.10:32
rbasak!ops10:32
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PhalanxerLOL 'channel emergency'10:32
PhalanxerRobie, you look like your from India.10:35
PhalanxerHow many times have you taken a dump in the street?10:35
PhalanxerSo does anyone know if Ubuntu's PostgreSQL version is actually capable of sending the 'SIGTERM' signal to the master postgres process?10:38
toddcPhalanxer: PostgreSQL is working for me with no issues----Documentation a;ways needs more volenteers to keep updated  no need to be rude yes it does but I am no expert on that area10:38
Phalanxertoddc: Tell yer mate rbasak you stop being a white knight and be useful and there will be know need for me to be rude.10:39
Phalanxertoddc: Not some pathetic dobber that calls ops.10:39
Phalanxertoddc: Can you send the 'SIGTERM' signal to the master postgres process?10:40
Phalanxertoddc: How is it done? The functionality is not documented.10:41
_________kill SIGTERM $(pidof postgres)10:42
toddcPhalanxer: he is correct we do have a code of conduct and asking volenteers should be done with respect---I do not have current access to test the process out of the office atm10:42
Phalanxertoddc: If you are not an op you should really shut the fuck up about the CoC in my opinion.10:43
PhalanxerHey _________10:43
PhalanxerThanks for that.10:43
toddcNever mind bye bye10:43
PhalanxerI'm going to look into it now.10:43
Phalanxertoddc: I am done.10:44
PhalanxerBye10:44
LachezarHey all. Upgraded Xubuntu from 20.04 to 21.04, and my headset USB dongle is no longer available. lsusb does not show it. What could be the issue?10:44
PhalanxerActually I will wait around until I get banned.10:44
PhalanxerThese beta white knights are comedy.10:45
LachezarIt is connected to a Lenovo mini-dock. The dock seems to work fine: power and video pass through just fine, but the USB device attached to that do not seem to work.10:45
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PhalanxerDoes anyone know how I can find the PID of the 'postgres' process? According the the documentation, the 'ps' program is used for getting the information, however, when I use 'ps', the postgres process is not there.10:50
Phalanxerkill SIGTERM $(pidof postgres)10:50
PhalanxerWoops!10:50
Phalanxerhttps://www.postgresql.org/docs/12/server-shutdown.html10:50
LachezarPhalanxer: 'ps auxw | grep postgres'10:51
LachezarPhalanxer: there will probably be more than one postgres process.10:51
PhalanxerThanks mate10:51
PhalanxerShit. I've just realised this approach isn't going to work because my usage of this facility is for a backup script, and the PID will change on the next restart.10:58
lotuspsychjePhalanxer: tone down the language in the support channel please10:59
PhalanxerWhy would the 'postgres' process not be showing under 'ps'? I am viewing it by root.10:59
LachezarPhalanxer: typically ps only shows processes from the current shell/terminal.11:00
PhalanxerLachezar. Make sense. I think the process is running as a service.11:01
LachezarPhalanxer: you need to ask to show background tasks which is either the 'a' or the 'x' parameter11:01
PhalanxerThe service 'stop' seems to only be able to shut down the server using SIGINT, but that's not what I want.11:01
LachezarPhalanxer: You /should/ be using the 'service' script to manage PostgreSQL if it has been installed as an OS package.11:02
LachezarOr systemctl...11:03
PhalanxerNot according to the documentation.11:03
Phalanxerhttps://www.postgresql.org/docs/12/server-shutdown.html11:03
LachezarPhalanxer: there are OS-specific scripts, not generally covered in the products' documentation.11:03
LachezarDebian/Ubuntu uses systemd to manage processes.11:04
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PhalanxerHey sorry, I keep getting dropped.11:04
PhalanxerLachezar: That's right. You want to be careful not to critisize the lack of documentation by Canonical. You will be threatened with getting banned.11:05
PhalanxerLachezar: The problem is Canonical have hacked it up and not documented the changes.11:05
PhalanxerLachezar: And here we are...11:05
LachezarPhalanxer: Nah, that's just how things are: products are developed in an OS-agnostic way (typically), and then OS developers tune them up for the specific OS meta-set.11:06
PhalanxerLachezar: Yep, it's unfortunate.11:06
PhalanxerI have had the same problem with Apache HTTPd in the past.11:06
LachezarPhalanxer: 'systemctl status' shoudl be your friend.11:06
PhalanxerLachezar: No time mate :)  I am going to have to go the pragmatic way and just shut it down by the service route.11:06
LachezarPhalanxer: I generally *like* having products distribution-independent.11:06
PhalanxerI have spent a whole afternoon and now into the night over this.11:07
LachezarPhalanxer: under Ubuntu/Debian I believe that "service" scripts are wrappers for systemctl calls (-ish).11:07
PhalanxerLachezar: Yeah that sounds about right.11:07
PhalanxerThere is an alternative, PostgreSQL have their own Ubuntu package, but it is only supported until 2024, where as Ubuntu 20.04 LTS is supported until 2025. I don't want to have to keep in the back of my mind that fact.11:08
PhalanxerI have to get off the computer. Computers have done my head in!11:10
PhalanxerTake care!11:10
Guest213hi11:11
TomyWorkon 18.04, I have /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf. Can I override that somehow?11:13
TomyWorkcause that file is part of the libasound-data package and might get overwritten in an update if i modify it11:14
TomyWorkoh nm there'd a .d directory11:14
BluesKajHi folks12:01
olf-folkshello12:05
Woethow can I block ICMP in UFW *while* keeping it working for the whitelisted IPs?12:11
olf-folksWoet: i found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW12:17
Woetolf-folks: me too, the problem is that that completely ignores all the actual ufw rules12:17
Woetso it either accepts it for everyone or blocks it for everyone12:18
olf-folksthe first rule should be the block, the next rule should be the allow rule12:18
Woetolf-folks: I'm not entirely sure what you mean, because I believe iptables won't keep checking if it already encountered a DROP12:19
Woetolf-folks: but following that guide blocked ICMP for all IPs, including the ones I have configured as "ufw allow from ...."12:19
olf-folksWoet: dose this not work as expected after it blocks everyone   ufw allow from 192.168.x.x to any port 7 proto tcp12:25
olf-folksWoet: could you share a paste from what ufw commands you put in?12:30
olf-folksWoet: iptables should not encounter a drop if the ip is whitelisted by a second rule with ufw12:38
[itchyjunk]Hello, I have a little script in rename.sh. I would like to run it but `/usr/bin/bash rename.sh` says /user/bin/bash no such script. How would i run a script?12:40
tarzeau_[itchyjunk]: it is /usr not /user ?12:42
tarzeau_[itchyjunk]: do you have /usr/bin/bash or /bin/bash ?12:42
[itchyjunk]oh let me check12:43
[itchyjunk]Ah, `/bin/bash` worked, thanks. ;_;12:43
Woetolf-folks: pretty sure "before.rules" is executed before "user.rules"?12:50
persuasohi12:57
paulbxmy 21.04 installation went bad (driver problems; would boot, but only at 640x480 and with no network etc.) i reinstalled (i.e. "documents, music, and other personal files will be kept") and can log in with the newly created user.  my previous users still have their directories in /home, but don't work for login, nor are they visible in Settings >13:33
paulbxUsers.  did i miss a step?13:33
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Guest9353https://pastebin.com/XDtL74Rh13:38
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Lachezarpaulbx: The users reside in other places (/etc/*, and other places). They have to be re-created after re-installing, and you should pay attention to IDs of these users when re-creating them.13:55
paulbxLachezar - right, thanks.13:57
ASC_nicknameHi! I'm plaing with Partman as a part of Ubiquity installer. Is there any documentation concerning cases with installation along with pre-configured partitions layout? When dual-boot in use.14:24
gneeriiloeepdeerwhy doesn't pdfarranger work?15:55
gneeriiloeepdeerare there other option to delete pdf pages?15:56
ioriagneeriiloeepdeer, define 'does not work', please15:59
gneeriiloeepdeerioria, I open it, choose a pdf file, get rid of thepages I dont need, try to save. I cannot it returns: 'only pages can be added'16:00
ioriayes, it's a bug :  try the ppa or the flatpak : -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pdfarranger/+bug/192628916:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1926289 in pikepdf (Ubuntu) "pdfarranger TypeError: only pages can be inserted; solved in versions 1.7.1/pikepdf 2.7.0" [Wishlist, Triaged]16:00
gneeriiloeepdeerdammit16:03
gneeriiloeepdeerioria, are pdfshuffler and pdfarranger the same thing?16:07
gneeriiloeepdeerioria, much appreciated, you've been very helpful16:09
noarbdoes anyone know what package would be required to stream h264 video to vlc on 21.04? I am able to do so on a mac with vlc. I've installed ffmpeg, which includes libavcodec58 but I still cant stream the rtsp endpoint16:14
BluesKajnoarb, you the m3u url and paste it into vlc/media/channel network stream16:22
BluesKajnned16:22
BluesKajneed even16:22
noarbI have that stream url, it can't be opened on ubuntu which I believe is a codec issue. the log from vlc is not verbose, but the same stream works on a mac with vlc network streaming16:29
nyuszika7hUbuntu is miscategorizing my Bluetooth speakers as headphones, is there a way to fix this?17:19
rud0lfi'm not sure bluetooth profile differentiates headphones from speakers17:21
rud0lfthere should be no side effect other than wrong icon17:21
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FaTaL_ggI have been signing in now in irc for a few years. much help here; you have all helped on many issues. One that I still have (since 16.04, and still in my 20.04), is; whenever I have to restart the computer, isc-dhcp-server fails to start. I can issue a restart of it, and then it works usually..... until the next power failure18:01
rbasakFaTaL_gg: that might be because the service isn't configured to wait until after the network interface it's serving is up.18:14
FaTaL_ggrbasak, agreed. the annoying thing is, the interface is up, but it reports a failure..... maybe I need to add a massive delay18:21
FaTaL_ggbr0 reports a failure, even tho it is actually working.... that is because one device in the br0 list "fails" so it reports it fails, but it didn't fail.18:22
crabapplehi. I also asked this question on the main lubuntu channel but I will re-ask it here, because this seems more active. I have been trying to find a good os for my powermac g4, and lubuntu 16.04 for powerpc seems great. I have spent some time searching, but have not found an iso; the one on the downloads page is a dead link. any help would be appreciated.18:37
tomreyncrabapple: it won't get more than no support here either, it's dead, end of life, unsupported. and i provided a magnet link there if you still want to try your luck.18:39
acid-bong[m]<crabapple> "hi. I also asked this question..." <- http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/16.04/release/ this one? works for me18:50
crabappleyes, but I need the powerpc version. that link does not work, see: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/16.04/release/lubuntu-16.04-alternate-powerpc.iso18:51
acid-bong[m]ah, sorry, didn't notice18:52
alkisgcrabapple: it's completely unsupported, but if you google for the iso, "lubuntu-16.04-alternate-powerpc.iso", you'll find it in various mirrors. Example: http://mirror.datto.com/ubuntu-releases/lubuntu/releases/16.04.1/release/19:47
* enyc meows20:02
enycalkisg: hrrm I wonder how popular ppc64el is20:02
enycor loads of old powerpc macs are 32bit powerpc only ;/20:03
* alkisg has never used a mac, they're not popular here in greece at all20:09
vido:o20:35
ricardhola estoy un poco perdido, soy nuevo20:39
vidohi20:39
ricardhi20:40
shailangsadoes anybody know if $release and $version is passed to the shell script https://pastebin.com/DsZj3qzA ?20:58
aboodHello21:20
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FlikkerI've been using ffmpeg to convert mp2 jacket images from DVDs but apparently ffmpeg isn't installed by default on Ubuntu (desktop at least) which isn't my daily driver but a friend is using. It isn't hard to install obviously but is there anything that anyone knows of that is already installed by default that will do the conversion? Preferably something with a CLI?21:47
tomreynFlikker: i *assume* not so. but why is the need to install an obstacle?21:57
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FlikkerAn extra step to walk someone though. "Use 'wonderconvert file.mp2 file.png' versus 'apt install ffmpeg' and then 'ffmpeg -i file.mp2 file.png'21:59
FlikkerAlso if something is already installed why install a duplicate utility if they don't need it21:59
tomreynit won't hurt them to learn how to install software on their (?) computer22:02
FlikkerFair enough. More the second for me. I hate installing extra unneeded stuff.22:02
tomreynyou could guide through the GUI if that seems preferrable, or automate it22:02
tomreynpurge it afterwards if it helps ;)22:04
FlikkerIt just feels like installing an 800lb utility to do a 5lb task. I'm gonna stop worrying about "perfection" though and just go with it. :)22:05
navonodlol22:06
zekiahhi22:58
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