[01:49] <paulbx> my 21.04 install, which i've been using happily for months (plus the years of the previous versions), has gotten broken somehow. looks like driver problems -- video is 640x480, wifi card doesn't show up, sound doesn't work, etc. my question is: how do i reinstall the OS without wiping my file
[01:49] <paulbx> ...files and apps?  lots of instructions on line for doing this with previous versions, but the 21.04 installer is not allowing me to choose that option
[01:50] <paulbx> (perhaps because there's a windows bootloader and windows partition on the drive? i dunno)
[01:54] <paulbx> i don't care about keeping the windows partition. i have a backup of my ubuntu partition.  i just want to get my system usable again. i can't find a path with the installer that doesn't lead to a format/partition step/
[02:10] <guiverc> paulbx; use something-else/manual/manual-partitioning, select exist partitions & ensure no format is selected - it'll cause a upgrade-via-reinstall or repair-installation type of install  (desktop installs)
[02:52] <noarb> Should installing ffmpeg on ubuntu 21.04 be enough to stream a network device that is h.264 through vlc? The same network source is working for me on mac, not on ubuntu
[03:10] <noarb> the logs of vlc just say "only real/helix rtsp servers"
[03:23] <tp43_> I install autotools. And there is supposed to be an amhello tar bar that ships with it. Please help me find it in my filesystem.
[03:29] <ledeni> tp43_, /usr/share/doc/automake/amhello-1.0.tar.gz
[03:31] <tp43_> ledeni, thx
[03:32] <tp43_> ledeni, I do not have it
[06:24] <sub526> I am having an Ubuntu PC, is it possible to run few commands on system startup automatically?
[06:27] <guiverc2> sub526, there are many ways (more if using a desktop too), https://askubuntu.com/questions/814/how-to-run-scripts-on-start-up ; on any login, on startup, on specific login etc
[06:28] <guiverc2> ignore the entries related to upstart in link I provided ; Ubuntu no longer uses it
[06:29] <sub526> guiverc2: thanks, will try that now.
[06:47] <Swift110-mobile> hmm
[07:11] <Hash> https://bpa.st/EF7A Does this make any sense? What did I do wrong? I'm trying to pin dovecot and when I try to update the system, it wants to update it too
[07:12] <Hash> https://bpa.st/VHMQ policy
[07:13] <Hash> 2.2 is installed and pinned. or wait... oh 'h' hold package. ohhmm
[07:13] <ren0v0> @TJ-, removing those udev rules didn't help with keyboard/mouse freezing :(
[07:13] <Hash> ahhh it's apt-mark hold dovecot
[07:19] <TJ-> ren0v0: I don't recall what the issue was, sorry
[07:39] <LeyLa21F> hi
[07:39] <Kel> hallo
[07:46] <guiverc> G'day Kel & LeyLa21F, if you have a Ubuntu support question, please just ask it (try and keep to a single line & be patient waiting for replies).
[07:46] <LeyLa21F> help me pls
[07:47] <LeyLa21F> my websitesi chat rooms add pls
[07:47] <Kel> guiverc: ah, sorry, was replying to LeyLa21F. I try to be helpful when I can =) Back about a decade ago I converted Forum support replies to the Wiki.
[07:48] <guiverc> :) Kel
[07:51] <guiverc> LeyLa21F, if english is not your native language; you may find other IRC rooms that are easier to use (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList & look in Local Ubuntu channels)
[08:06] <Stanley> Anyone have any luck connecting to a share on MacOS from Ubuntu?
[08:06] <Stanley> smbclient -u stanley //192.168.1.72/Share promps for my password and t hen I get
[08:06] <Stanley> session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[08:22] <cbreak> you could try sshfs via ssh
[09:13] <cesdo> Hello all
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> welcome cesdo
[09:35] <lavaball> is there still a difference between debian and ubuntu these days?
[09:45] <alkisg> Yeah, it's constantly increasing...
[09:45] <lavaball> like?
[09:45] <lavaball> did debian also not run on haswell cpus one day?
[09:46] <alkisg> Write: dpkg -l | grep ubuntu
[09:46] <alkisg> These packages are customized for Ubuntu
[09:46] <lavaball> is that that big of a change though?
[09:46] <alkisg> Also, there's a different kernel version ,there's snap and a lot of other differences
[09:46] <lavaball> oh, right snap!
[09:46] <alkisg> It depends on what you mean "big"
[09:46] <alkisg> It's millions of code lines, and maybe 1% of the code base?
[09:47] <lavaball> the question is what does gnome look like out of the box?
[09:48] <alkisg> No idea, I stopped using gnome a decade ago
[09:48] <alkisg> When they stopped supporting older computers
[09:49] <lavaball> yeah, i keep having issues with it and my users don't really use any of the features anyway.
[09:50] <alkisg> We went directly from gnome2 to mate, without bothering with gnome3 or unity
[09:50] <privato89> Hi guys, I got an issue with an apt: It starts only once, if I close it, it would not open anymore. I noticed that to start it I need to kill the process or to reboot the system. Is there a solution?
[09:50] <alkisg> As many of our PCs didn't have 3d acceleration
[09:51] <alkisg> privato89: what's the exact command and the exact error message?
[09:51] <privato89> No one error, it just doesn't start if I click on that apt
[09:52] <privato89> only if I kill the process it will start again
[09:53] <alkisg> "apt" is a command line program, so it's strange that you say you "click on it"
[09:53] <alkisg> Are you talking about something else?
[09:53] <alkisg> E.g. usually a command is like: sudo apt update
[09:53] <privato89> sorry, I am talking about the app icon
[09:53] <privato89> the programm is xpad
[09:55] <alkisg> OK, wait for someone that is using that program
[09:56] <EriC^^> privato89: maybe try to fiddle with the preferences, maybe it's hiding itself but tray isnt enabled or something, right-click > preferences
[10:22] <Phalanxer> Hey all!
[10:23] <Phalanxer> So I am trying to get PostgreSQL working but having a problem because the maintainers of Ubuntu's PostgreSQL decided to hack it up and not bother documenting the changes.
[10:24] <Phalanxer> The documentation hasn't even been updated for 6 years, for real.
[10:25] <Phalanxer> So according to PostgreSQL's documentation, I need to use the program 'pg_ctl' to send the 'SIGTERM' signal to the master postgres process. https://www.postgresql.org/docs/12/server-shutdown.html
[10:26] <Phalanxer> The problem is, Ubuntu's hacked up PostgreSQL version does not have the 'pg_ctl' program in it, and no one bothered documenting how sending the 'SIGTERM' signal to the master postgres process can be done.
[10:26] <Phalanxer> Does anyone know how it can be done?
[10:27] <Phalanxer> Oh, and here's Ubuntu's ancient and lacking documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL
[10:31] <rbasak> Phalanxer: please be more respectful.
[10:31] <Phalanxer> rbasak: What does respect have to do with it? The rubbish doesn't work.
[10:31] <rbasak> https://ubuntu.com/community/code-of-conduct
[10:31] <Phalanxer> Yeah it doesn't interest me.
[10:31] <rbasak> I was about to type an answer to your question.
[10:31] <rbasak> OK then please leave this channel.
[10:31] <Phalanxer> I've just had 4 hours of my life wasted.
[10:32] <Phalanxer> No, I'm here to get a problem solved.
[10:32] <rbasak> I'm here to answer questions only to people who respect and follow our code of conduct.
[10:32] <Phalanxer> Okay bye.
[10:32] <rbasak> !ops
[10:32] <Phalanxer> LOL 'channel emergency'
[10:35] <Phalanxer> Robie, you look like your from India.
[10:35] <Phalanxer> How many times have you taken a dump in the street?
[10:38] <Phalanxer> So does anyone know if Ubuntu's PostgreSQL version is actually capable of sending the 'SIGTERM' signal to the master postgres process?
[10:38] <toddc> Phalanxer: PostgreSQL is working for me with no issues----Documentation a;ways needs more volenteers to keep updated  no need to be rude yes it does but I am no expert on that area
[10:39] <Phalanxer> toddc: Tell yer mate rbasak you stop being a white knight and be useful and there will be know need for me to be rude.
[10:39] <Phalanxer> toddc: Not some pathetic dobber that calls ops.
[10:40] <Phalanxer> toddc: Can you send the 'SIGTERM' signal to the master postgres process?
[10:41] <Phalanxer> toddc: How is it done? The functionality is not documented.
[10:42] <_________> kill SIGTERM $(pidof postgres)
[10:42] <toddc> Phalanxer: he is correct we do have a code of conduct and asking volenteers should be done with respect---I do not have current access to test the process out of the office atm
[10:43] <Phalanxer> toddc: If you are not an op you should really shut the fuck up about the CoC in my opinion.
[10:43] <Phalanxer> Hey _________
[10:43] <Phalanxer> Thanks for that.
[10:43] <toddc> Never mind bye bye
[10:43] <Phalanxer> I'm going to look into it now.
[10:44] <Phalanxer> toddc: I am done.
[10:44] <Phalanxer> Bye
[10:44] <Lachezar> Hey all. Upgraded Xubuntu from 20.04 to 21.04, and my headset USB dongle is no longer available. lsusb does not show it. What could be the issue?
[10:44] <Phalanxer> Actually I will wait around until I get banned.
[10:45] <Phalanxer> These beta white knights are comedy.
[10:45] <Lachezar> It is connected to a Lenovo mini-dock. The dock seems to work fine: power and video pass through just fine, but the USB device attached to that do not seem to work.
[10:50] <Phalanxer> Does anyone know how I can find the PID of the 'postgres' process? According the the documentation, the 'ps' program is used for getting the information, however, when I use 'ps', the postgres process is not there.
[10:50] <Phalanxer> kill SIGTERM $(pidof postgres)
[10:50] <Phalanxer> Woops!
[10:50] <Phalanxer> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/12/server-shutdown.html
[10:51] <Lachezar> Phalanxer: 'ps auxw | grep postgres'
[10:51] <Lachezar> Phalanxer: there will probably be more than one postgres process.
[10:51] <Phalanxer> Thanks mate
[10:58] <Phalanxer> Shit. I've just realised this approach isn't going to work because my usage of this facility is for a backup script, and the PID will change on the next restart.
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> Phalanxer: tone down the language in the support channel please
[10:59] <Phalanxer> Why would the 'postgres' process not be showing under 'ps'? I am viewing it by root.
[11:00] <Lachezar> Phalanxer: typically ps only shows processes from the current shell/terminal.
[11:01] <Phalanxer> Lachezar. Make sense. I think the process is running as a service.
[11:01] <Lachezar> Phalanxer: you need to ask to show background tasks which is either the 'a' or the 'x' parameter
[11:01] <Phalanxer> The service 'stop' seems to only be able to shut down the server using SIGINT, but that's not what I want.
[11:02] <Lachezar> Phalanxer: You /should/ be using the 'service' script to manage PostgreSQL if it has been installed as an OS package.
[11:03] <Lachezar> Or systemctl...
[11:03] <Phalanxer> Not according to the documentation.
[11:03] <Phalanxer> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/12/server-shutdown.html
[11:03] <Lachezar> Phalanxer: there are OS-specific scripts, not generally covered in the products' documentation.
[11:04] <Lachezar> Debian/Ubuntu uses systemd to manage processes.
[11:04] <Phalanxer> Hey sorry, I keep getting dropped.
[11:05] <Phalanxer> Lachezar: That's right. You want to be careful not to critisize the lack of documentation by Canonical. You will be threatened with getting banned.
[11:05] <Phalanxer> Lachezar: The problem is Canonical have hacked it up and not documented the changes.
[11:05] <Phalanxer> Lachezar: And here we are...
[11:06] <Lachezar> Phalanxer: Nah, that's just how things are: products are developed in an OS-agnostic way (typically), and then OS developers tune them up for the specific OS meta-set.
[11:06] <Phalanxer> Lachezar: Yep, it's unfortunate.
[11:06] <Phalanxer> I have had the same problem with Apache HTTPd in the past.
[11:06] <Lachezar> Phalanxer: 'systemctl status' shoudl be your friend.
[11:06] <Phalanxer> Lachezar: No time mate :)  I am going to have to go the pragmatic way and just shut it down by the service route.
[11:06] <Lachezar> Phalanxer: I generally *like* having products distribution-independent.
[11:07] <Phalanxer> I have spent a whole afternoon and now into the night over this.
[11:07] <Lachezar> Phalanxer: under Ubuntu/Debian I believe that "service" scripts are wrappers for systemctl calls (-ish).
[11:07] <Phalanxer> Lachezar: Yeah that sounds about right.
[11:08] <Phalanxer> There is an alternative, PostgreSQL have their own Ubuntu package, but it is only supported until 2024, where as Ubuntu 20.04 LTS is supported until 2025. I don't want to have to keep in the back of my mind that fact.
[11:10] <Phalanxer> I have to get off the computer. Computers have done my head in!
[11:10] <Phalanxer> Take care!
[11:11] <Guest213> hi
[11:13] <TomyWork> on 18.04, I have /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf. Can I override that somehow?
[11:14] <TomyWork> cause that file is part of the libasound-data package and might get overwritten in an update if i modify it
[11:14] <TomyWork> oh nm there'd a .d directory
[12:01] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:05] <olf-folks> hello
[12:11] <Woet> how can I block ICMP in UFW *while* keeping it working for the whitelisted IPs?
[12:17] <olf-folks> Woet: i found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[12:17] <Woet> olf-folks: me too, the problem is that that completely ignores all the actual ufw rules
[12:18] <Woet> so it either accepts it for everyone or blocks it for everyone
[12:18] <olf-folks> the first rule should be the block, the next rule should be the allow rule
[12:19] <Woet> olf-folks: I'm not entirely sure what you mean, because I believe iptables won't keep checking if it already encountered a DROP
[12:19] <Woet> olf-folks: but following that guide blocked ICMP for all IPs, including the ones I have configured as "ufw allow from ...."
[12:25] <olf-folks> Woet: dose this not work as expected after it blocks everyone   ufw allow from 192.168.x.x to any port 7 proto tcp
[12:30] <olf-folks> Woet: could you share a paste from what ufw commands you put in?
[12:38] <olf-folks> Woet: iptables should not encounter a drop if the ip is whitelisted by a second rule with ufw
[12:40] <[itchyjunk]> Hello, I have a little script in rename.sh. I would like to run it but `/usr/bin/bash rename.sh` says /user/bin/bash no such script. How would i run a script?
[12:42] <tarzeau_> [itchyjunk]: it is /usr not /user ?
[12:42] <tarzeau_> [itchyjunk]: do you have /usr/bin/bash or /bin/bash ?
[12:43] <[itchyjunk]> oh let me check
[12:43] <[itchyjunk]> Ah, `/bin/bash` worked, thanks. ;_;
[12:50] <Woet> olf-folks: pretty sure "before.rules" is executed before "user.rules"?
[12:57] <persuaso> hi
[13:33] <paulbx> my 21.04 installation went bad (driver problems; would boot, but only at 640x480 and with no network etc.) i reinstalled (i.e. "documents, music, and other personal files will be kept") and can log in with the newly created user.  my previous users still have their directories in /home, but don't work for login, nor are they visible in Settings >
[13:33] <paulbx> Users.  did i miss a step?
[13:38] <Guest9353> https://pastebin.com/XDtL74Rh
[13:55] <Lachezar> paulbx: The users reside in other places (/etc/*, and other places). They have to be re-created after re-installing, and you should pay attention to IDs of these users when re-creating them.
[13:57] <paulbx> Lachezar - right, thanks.
[14:24] <ASC_nickname> Hi! I'm plaing with Partman as a part of Ubiquity installer. Is there any documentation concerning cases with installation along with pre-configured partitions layout? When dual-boot in use.
[15:55] <gneeriiloeepdeer> why doesn't pdfarranger work?
[15:56] <gneeriiloeepdeer> are there other option to delete pdf pages?
[15:59] <ioria> gneeriiloeepdeer, define 'does not work', please
[16:00] <gneeriiloeepdeer> ioria, I open it, choose a pdf file, get rid of thepages I dont need, try to save. I cannot it returns: 'only pages can be added'
[16:00] <ioria> yes, it's a bug :  try the ppa or the flatpak : -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pdfarranger/+bug/1926289
[16:03] <gneeriiloeepdeer> dammit
[16:07] <gneeriiloeepdeer> ioria, are pdfshuffler and pdfarranger the same thing?
[16:09] <gneeriiloeepdeer> ioria, much appreciated, you've been very helpful
[16:14] <noarb> does anyone know what package would be required to stream h264 video to vlc on 21.04? I am able to do so on a mac with vlc. I've installed ffmpeg, which includes libavcodec58 but I still cant stream the rtsp endpoint
[16:22] <BluesKaj> noarb, you the m3u url and paste it into vlc/media/channel network stream
[16:22] <BluesKaj> nned
[16:22] <BluesKaj> need even
[16:29] <noarb> I have that stream url, it can't be opened on ubuntu which I believe is a codec issue. the log from vlc is not verbose, but the same stream works on a mac with vlc network streaming
[17:19] <nyuszika7h> Ubuntu is miscategorizing my Bluetooth speakers as headphones, is there a way to fix this?
[17:21] <rud0lf> i'm not sure bluetooth profile differentiates headphones from speakers
[17:21] <rud0lf> there should be no side effect other than wrong icon
[18:01] <FaTaL_gg> I have been signing in now in irc for a few years. much help here; you have all helped on many issues. One that I still have (since 16.04, and still in my 20.04), is; whenever I have to restart the computer, isc-dhcp-server fails to start. I can issue a restart of it, and then it works usually..... until the next power failure
[18:14] <rbasak> FaTaL_gg: that might be because the service isn't configured to wait until after the network interface it's serving is up.
[18:21] <FaTaL_gg> rbasak, agreed. the annoying thing is, the interface is up, but it reports a failure..... maybe I need to add a massive delay
[18:22] <FaTaL_gg> br0 reports a failure, even tho it is actually working.... that is because one device in the br0 list "fails" so it reports it fails, but it didn't fail.
[18:37] <crabapple> hi. I also asked this question on the main lubuntu channel but I will re-ask it here, because this seems more active. I have been trying to find a good os for my powermac g4, and lubuntu 16.04 for powerpc seems great. I have spent some time searching, but have not found an iso; the one on the downloads page is a dead link. any help would be appreciated.
[18:39] <tomreyn> crabapple: it won't get more than no support here either, it's dead, end of life, unsupported. and i provided a magnet link there if you still want to try your luck.
 "hi. I also asked this question..." <- http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/16.04/release/ this one? works for me
[18:51] <crabapple> yes, but I need the powerpc version. that link does not work, see: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/16.04/release/lubuntu-16.04-alternate-powerpc.iso
[18:52] <acid-bong[m]> ah, sorry, didn't notice
[19:47] <alkisg> crabapple: it's completely unsupported, but if you google for the iso, "lubuntu-16.04-alternate-powerpc.iso", you'll find it in various mirrors. Example: http://mirror.datto.com/ubuntu-releases/lubuntu/releases/16.04.1/release/
[20:02]  * enyc meows
[20:02] <enyc> alkisg: hrrm I wonder how popular ppc64el is
[20:03] <enyc> or loads of old powerpc macs are 32bit powerpc only ;/
[20:09]  * alkisg has never used a mac, they're not popular here in greece at all
[20:35] <vido> :o
[20:39] <ricard> hola estoy un poco perdido, soy nuevo
[20:39] <vido> hi
[20:40] <ricard> hi
[20:58] <shailangsa> does anybody know if $release and $version is passed to the shell script https://pastebin.com/DsZj3qzA ?
[21:20] <abood> Hello
[21:47] <Flikker> I've been using ffmpeg to convert mp2 jacket images from DVDs but apparently ffmpeg isn't installed by default on Ubuntu (desktop at least) which isn't my daily driver but a friend is using. It isn't hard to install obviously but is there anything that anyone knows of that is already installed by default that will do the conversion? Preferably something with a CLI?
[21:57] <tomreyn> Flikker: i *assume* not so. but why is the need to install an obstacle?
[21:59] <Flikker> An extra step to walk someone though. "Use 'wonderconvert file.mp2 file.png' versus 'apt install ffmpeg' and then 'ffmpeg -i file.mp2 file.png'
[21:59] <Flikker> Also if something is already installed why install a duplicate utility if they don't need it
[22:02] <tomreyn> it won't hurt them to learn how to install software on their (?) computer
[22:02] <Flikker> Fair enough. More the second for me. I hate installing extra unneeded stuff.
[22:02] <tomreyn> you could guide through the GUI if that seems preferrable, or automate it
[22:04] <tomreyn> purge it afterwards if it helps ;)
[22:05] <Flikker> It just feels like installing an 800lb utility to do a 5lb task. I'm gonna stop worrying about "perfection" though and just go with it. :)
[22:06] <navonod> lol
[22:58] <zekiah> hi