[00:00] <wd50> it's been my experience that i sometimes have to change a systemd script to make the change take effect, in addition to the config change to reflect it.
[00:00] <wd50> for example, docker
[00:01] <sarnold> rafis: if you use sudo you have to type 'sudo systemctl suspend' etc
[00:01] <tomreyn> my default 20.04 primary restricted user can "systemctl poweroff" without entering a password
[00:02] <sarnold> tomreyn: even from a fresh shell or a fresh ssh connection?
[00:02] <sarnold> some of these polkit things have short grace periods
[00:02] <scott_tams> yeah, but this is more the driver/kernel level than the init system. `for keyword in nvidia nouveau; systemctl list-units | grep $keyword` prints nothing
[00:02] <rafis> tomreyn: how did you get it to work! ?
[00:03] <tomreyn> sarnold: that's from a gnome-terminal of the logged in user. i had not entered the user password for a good while.
[00:03] <tomreyn> rafis: out of the box, fresh install
[00:03] <wd50> i know.
[00:03] <wd50> i'll look for a solution
[00:04] <sarnold> tomreyn: huh. interesting :)
[00:04] <scott_tams> I'm just pissed/confused (and also pissed in the other sense) as to why SuperTuxKart looked great with motion blur and bloom yesterday or the day before and now it's a slideshow at the lowest settings
[00:04] <tomreyn> its groups are: user adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin lxd sambashare
[00:05] <scott_tams> brb
[00:05] <tomreyn> "user" is the name of the user
[00:05] <tomreyn> as well as its primary grouü
[00:05] <tomreyn> *group
[00:09] <tomreyn> "pkaction" lists "org.freedesktop.login1.reboot" and "org.freedesktop.login1.power-off" amongst other
[00:10] <rafis> sarnold: worked
[00:11] <rafis> sarnold: you were right, still needs to write sudo before systemctl
[00:12] <sarnold> tomreyn: oh wow, I've never seen that before
[00:12] <tomreyn> are you "administrator" on settings -> users?
[00:12] <tomreyn> rafis: ^
[00:12] <tomreyn> sarnold: this command seems to be pretty useless though :)
[00:13] <sarnold> tomreyn: it's the single most useful thing I've learned about polkit so far :)
[00:13] <wd50> scott_tams: did you make any changes to your grub configuration?
[00:14] <tomreyn> sarnold: this can either mean that you find it to be mostly useless or that you haven't learnt much about it, yet. i'd be the latter class.
[00:14] <scott_tams> yes as I said in the first few messages I added `nouveau_blacklist=1` after I noticed the problem in order to force the switch back
[00:14] <scott_tams> brb
[00:14] <wd50> ah, okay, i see where it said that
[00:15] <tomreyn> bedtime for me, ttyl.
[00:15]  * scott_tams is back
[00:15] <wd50> but i do notice that the line in that post said had a period where you placed an underscore.
[00:16]  * scott_tams logged in from another machine, so that I can reboot without /quitting
[00:18] <wd50> what happens if you put `nouveau.blacklist=1`, instead of `nouvear_blacklist=1`?
[00:18] <wd50> i typoed that last part
[00:18] <scott_tams> yup, trying that now. dumbass mistake, bet that'll fix it
[00:19] <wd50> alright.
[00:24] <scott_tams> no changfe
[00:25] <wd50> hmm
[00:25] <wd50> well that was from like a decade ago..
[00:25]  * wd50 keeps looking
[00:27] <Bashing-om> scott_tams: Not paid attention to your issue - restate it for me please .
[00:27] <wd50> okay, so you mentioned editing grub, but did you also do anything with `/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf`
[00:27] <scott_tams> system unexpectedly switched from nvidia proprietary to nouveau, trying to get it to go back to nvidia
[00:27] <wd50> Bashing-om: he wants to use nvidia drivers but nouveau is resilient.
[00:29] <Bashing-om> scott_tams: wd50: Nvidia driver (module) fully installed ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' ?
[00:30] <wd50> he seems to have the respective driver packages installed.
[00:32] <scott_tams> Bashing-om, that returns 28 packages
[00:33] <wd50> scott_tams: did you create `/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf`?
[00:33] <scott_tams>  no
[00:34] <scott_tams> what if I try uninstalling xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-470, then running ubuntu-drivers autoinstall? Do you think that would have any effect?
[00:35] <scott_tams> If so, should I reboot between the two commands?
[00:35] <wd50> scott_tams: i found a slightly newer answer. https://askubuntu.com/questions/841876/how-to-disable-nouveau-kernel-driver that first answer.
[00:35] <scott_tams> the reason I ask is because I feel like i remember before this the 4** number being a lower number, like 440 or 430 or something
[00:36] <wd50> scott_tams: i don't really think so. what did you say caused it to act up, again?
[00:37] <scott_tams> I don't know for sure. I suspect that something was installed as a dependency and got auto-uninstalled, but TBH it came completely out of the blue from my perspective
[00:38] <wd50> interesting. sounds like a rocky patch process.
[00:39] <wd50> i mean i guess you could try reinstalling those packages.
[00:39] <wd50> but with apt, i would use `--purge`, or else nothing is truly reset when it reinstalls.
[00:39] <wd50> at least in my experience. unless someone deletes the python lib and places it back in from an iso, then simple apt reinstall works for me.
[00:41] <wd50> but for this driver thing, i'm seeing quite the community-developed assortment of possible solutions, but none of which are necessarily new or out of the scope of what those two links that you  posted suggest that you did.
[00:43] <scott_tams> i remember running a suspicious autoinstall with something about chromium and some stuff that looked like it was graphics related, but I can't remember what packages it was...it may have been this log entry?
[00:43] <scott_tams> libserd-0-0, librubberband2, chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra, python3-cached-property, bridge-utils, pigz, python3-texttable, containerd, ubuntu-fan, python3-websocket, libblas3, libbs2b0, libfftw3-double3, libvidstab1.1, python3-importlib-metadata, python3-more-itertools, docker.io, python3-attr, python3-jsonschema, python3-docker, python3-docopt, libgstreamer-plugins-bad1.0-0, pocketsphinx-en-us, runc, libsord-0-0, libflite1, gstreamer1.0-vaapi,
[00:43] <scott_tams> liblilv-0-0, python3-dockerpty, python3-pyrsistent, python3-zipp, libsratom-0-0
[00:43] <scott_tams> ah I don't think so
[00:44] <scott_tams> I'll be back in a few minutes. Thanks so much for trying to help wd50 and Bashing-om
[00:46] <wd50> np. i'm happy to help because i've had my fair share of wanting to pull my hair out over these kinds of issues.
[00:46] <wd50> chromium installs docker?
[00:46] <wd50> or was that some of the other stuff?
[00:49] <wd50> i don't see any package names that look like they should have touched your graphics drivers, intofar as i'm aware.
[00:52] <scott_tams> yeah I think that's a dead end
[00:53] <wd50> unless the deb packages for docker might have done that, i guess.
[00:54] <wd50> or unless it had to do with hardware acceleration settings, if you were messing with that. it still doesn't quite explain what happened to me. but these are just guesses. have you tried anything from the askubuntu link that i posted?
[00:55] <scott_tams> your link made me wonder....so I ran `cat /etc/modprobe.d/* | grep nvidia`...
[00:55] <scott_tams> blacklist nvidiafb
[00:55] <wd50> ah.
[00:55] <wd50> trying stuff now?
[00:56] <scott_tams> that doesn't look like the problem...sec
[00:56] <wd50> alright
[00:58] <scott_tams> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/P3z5jqFRCM/
[01:00] <scott_tams> however `lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3` still shows `Kernel modules: nvidiafb, nouveau`
[01:01] <scott_tams> this explains a lot -- nvidiafb is blacklisted, which leaves nouveau.
[01:02] <wd50> nvidiafb isn't from nvidia, though
[01:03] <wd50> but do also add that one file for blacklisting nouveau.
[01:04] <scott_tams> I'm gonna try the idea I had to uninstall the NVidia 470 package and run the driver autoinstaller. If `kernel moudles` doesn't include the driver listing under lspci, I don't see what blacklisting the nonexistent module will do.
[01:04] <scott_tams> I'll try the blacklist thing if this doesn't work though, ofc
[01:05] <wd50> alright.
[01:05] <wd50> this is way more tinkering than i would ever hope to have to do on ubuntu lol.
[01:06] <scott_tams> yeah, same. But I'm more used to manjaro and have only switched back to ubuntu for zfs-on-root
[01:07] <scott_tams> if this were my dad's laptop I'd be pissec
[01:07] <scott_tams> s/c$/d/
[01:15] <scott_tams> did that, still get `Kernel modules: nvidiafb, nouveau`. I give up, I'm going to bed. Thanks anyway, guys.
[01:16] <wd50> rip
[01:16] <wd50> take it easy.
[01:16] <scott_tams> you too, thanks
[05:00] <ash_worksi> did ubuntu drop the postgresql-common package for PG12?
[05:08] <ash_worksi> nvm, had to use `apt purge` on 10 to not reinstall common for 10
[05:39] <neff> Good morning friends
[05:41] <neff> ho to fix device descriptor read error?I fixed it once,but can't find solution now
[05:41] <neff> half of usb not working
[05:47] <alkisg> neff, that might mean an ssd/flash disk failure or a controller failure or a power issue etc. It's usually a hardware problem that can't be fixed. Do mention more details about it
[05:47] <alkisg> E.g. paste the exact message in pastebin, mention when it happens, which devices are affected etc
[05:48] <alkisg> Also in some cases it might mean that the Linux kernel isn't compatible with certain hardware; and in few of these cases, changing the kernel makes the problem go away
[05:52] <neff> I remember it was how so connected to iommu
[06:20] <osse> tomreyn: Thanks. What is an SRU ?
[06:21] <osse> I googled it. Sounds serious :p
[06:29] <bouncy>  the xf86sleep key suspends my workstation under X session and also pure terminal. How was that key mapped? Cannot be a X tools like xmodmap nor xbkoptions. I would like to map the other unmapped multimedia keys the same way :)
[06:33] <osse> tomreyn: I see now that it's been fixed in git. So I might as well wait until an actual package exists upstream
[08:45] <hajonnes> hi, after the latest security update my graphics is gone. nvidia settings is a blank window and my 40" 4k screen is set to 724p without any option to change the settings. what to do?
[09:11] <fdan> hi there
[09:11] <fdan> i have a dump file
[09:12] <fdan> its a ssl dump file and i want to read the dnsnames the server certs are valid for  , the last date before the certificates expires, and last 3 characters of the certs PEM encoded format
[09:12] <fdan> i installed ssldump
[09:13] <iomari891> greetings, im using 21.04 and I can only boot from kernel 5.11.0.22. when I try to boot from 34,31, or 25, the system freezes during the boot process. Why is only 5.11.0.22 working? I update my system daily.
[09:23] <wd50> iomari891: what process are you using to move between kernels?
[09:40] <nuovolnx> I would like to install ubuntu touch on nexus 6. Is it possible? Works well? Also I would like to know if the "morph" browser has an ad-suppression plugin?
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> nuovolnx: ubuntu touch is finished and the community took over with ubports
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> !touch | nuovolnx
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> nuovolnx: i dont think the ubports webbrowser allows plugins these days, maybe ogra knows?
[09:55] <zetheroo> is it just me, or is http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ down?
[09:55] <ogra> lotuspsychje, nuovolnx nope, i dont ... i already pointed nuovolnx to ubports in #ubuntu-arm ...
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> right
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: for mirror issues, you can ask in #ubuntu-mirrors
[09:56] <ogra> oh, i see they still have an IRC channel !
[09:56] <ogra> i didnt know that
[09:56] <zetheroo> on three Ubuntu 20.04 PCs I am getting 'Failed to fetch' with apt update
[09:56] <zetheroo>  lotuspsychje: ok
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> zetheroo: sure its not your end? firewall/router/proxys?
[09:58] <zetheroo>  lotuspsychje: haven't changed anything, and it's been working till today.
[09:58] <zetheroo> Internet is working no probs
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> allrighty
[10:01] <KBar> hello everyone! strange thing: ftp finished downloading the daily iso image but won't return to prompt. it's stuck with this line: 150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for impish-desktop-amd64.iso (3102111744 bytes).
[10:02] <KBar> i can confirm that it has finished downloading by listing that file: 3102111744 Sep  8 14:24  impish-desktop-amd64.iso
[10:03] <KBar> is this potentially a bug?
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> !next | KBar
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> iomari891: we currently have a lot of 5.11 bugs, i reccomend you browse the recent 'linux' bugs on launchpad, see if your issue is amongst them
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> iomari891: investigating your dmesg could help see whats going aswell
[10:16] <ztane> howdy, after installing some recent ubuntu updates to 20.04, fractional font scaling is b0rken, some software have ginormous fonts (kde apps) and the gtk apps including the ubuntu settings app have almost microscopic even at 200 % scaling ratio, fractional scaling or not, it doesn't seem right... any help? :D
[10:17] <hajonnes> Hi, I lost my graphics after last security update. I have timeshift so I reverted. Now I wonder about my nvidia install. I have a couple of packages installed 'automatic', could anyone take a look if I should set any of them to 'manual' https://termbin.com/szmx
[10:18] <medard> Hey, I keep getting random disconnects from wifi
[10:18] <medard> here are some logs, if you could help me
[10:19] <medard> https://termbin.com/y6bs
[10:19] <medard> https://termbin.com/8dvc
[10:37] <jeremy31> medard: check out https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2354328&p=13614520&#post13614520
[10:52] <Spyd> Hi, I have a question about installing Ubuntu on a RAID volume. Can someone help me?
[10:59] <MartinMSPedersen> how to install rpcbind? I get a 404 error ?
[10:59] <MartinMSPedersen> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/r/rpcbind/
[11:00] <MartinMSPedersen> for all mirrors I have tried
[11:00] <MartinMSPedersen> Err:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hirsute/main amd64 rpcbind amd64 1.2.5-9
[11:04] <hajonnes> #hexchat
[11:04] <Spyd> I'm building a server, it has two 120Gb SATA SSDs on an AMD B450 motherboard. I want the two SSDs on RAID 1 (redundancy). I tried software RAID, but Ubuntu doesn't want to boot from a software raid. I tried hardware RAID (with the onboard RAID controler from AMD), but there's no included drivers for this RAID controller, and I don't know how to install them.
[11:04] <Spyd> I tried to use the console to install RCRAID, but failed because this program can't be installed on the read-only volume of the live-OS. Any solution that allows me to install Ubuntu on a RAID is fine with me, I don't care if software or hardware.
[11:56] <TJ-> Spyd: it can boot from software RAID1, you just need to configure the devices correctly
[11:57] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:57] <TJ-> Spyd: the trick is to install grub to both underlying devices (and use the correct mdadm --metadata=1.0 to put metadata at /end/ of the device, not start)
[12:02] <TJ-> Spyd: on both use identical GPT arrangement, for UEFI create the EFI-SP (256-512MB), for BIOS create a BIOS boot partition (2MB), then a partition for the OS. RAID-1 the OS partition. grub-install to each underlying device.
[12:48] <Spyd> TJ-: Thank you for your answer, I'm trying to understand it. Please tell me if I understand it correctly. I'm going to use mdadm to partition both phyisical drives, creating the exact same partitions (EFI, SYSTEM, SWAP), then create a RAID-1 of the SYSTEM partition, is that right?
[12:51] <TJ-> Spyd: no, what I was suggesting was to /not/ RAID the entire physical devices, but only a partition for the OS. You can do as you suggest as long as you use --metadata=1.0 but firmware can only boot from a single device, and that'll prevent grub-install working on the MD device since it can only read, not write, to MD
[12:59] <Spyd> TJ-: If I create the same partitions on both SSDs, and then create a RAID-1 of the partition where the OS is installed, will it work? Also, for this to work, do I have to install on a single disk before or I can make the RAID-1 on the installer shell and then continue with installation?
[13:08] <nunya> CRTL Home no longer does screenshot I've tried CRTL ALT Home. My screen flashes but when I go into GIMP and hit paste it says nothing in clipboard. Please help. I've googled but found no solution.
[13:10] <nunya> There is no image data in the clipboard to paste is the exact message
[13:11] <TJ-> Spyd: Yes it'll work. Create the mdadm array with --metadata=1.0 manually before running the installer so you can select the md device as the location for installation, but set bootloader to one of the devices. Later, you can use dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc (or grub-efi-am64) to reinstall to multiple devices - it gives a list of devices and you can 'tick' more than one in debconf)
[13:17] <leftyfb> nunya: screenshot by default is the print screen button
[13:19] <nunya> leftyfb: Was CRTL for me as long as I can remember until last security update
[13:20] <nunya> leftyfb: Print scr by itself does nothing
[13:21] <leftyfb> nunya: check your keyboard shortcut settings
[13:21] <nunya> leftyfb: I did and I'd send you a sreenshot but...
[13:22] <nunya> leftyfb:The keyboard shortcut for screenshot is CRTL Home My Home key is also the Print Scr button.
[13:23] <leftyfb> nunya: is the "Print Scr" text on your keyboard blue?
[13:25] <nunya> leftyfb:There are no blue printed keys on my logitec wireless keyboard. It is the one I'm using to type now so I know it works.
[13:26] <leftyfb> nunya: so "home" and "print scr" are both printed in the same color on the same key?
[13:27] <nunya> leftyfb:No Home is bigger in white Print Scr is Orange and smaller
[13:28] <leftyfb> nunya: and do you have a "fn" key with "fn" being printed in orange?
[13:29] <nunya> leftyfb: Yes
[13:31] <leftyfb> nunya: did you try hitting fn + print scr?
[13:32] <leftyfb> nunya: what version of Ubuntu are you running and which desktop environment?
[13:34] <nunya> leftyb:I just tried gnome-screenshot in terminal and it didn't work either so I'm starting to think it's not the keyboard shortcuts but the actual gnome-screenshot program. It flashed like it was taking a screenshot but put nothing on clipboard.
[13:37] <leftyfb> nunya: the default is to take a screenshot and save it in pictures
[13:39] <nunya> leftyfb: It was never like that for me before but you are correct now I'm finding all the previous screenshot attempts in pictures. Any way to get it back to clipboard instead of creating images in pictures?
[13:42] <leftyfb> nunya: first, yes, it has always been like that as default. If you changed it, that's another story. Either way, go look in your keyboard shortcut settings to change it to your liking
[13:44] <nunya> leftyfb: I don't see any way to change it in preferences keyboard
[13:48] <leftyfb> nunya: https://i.imgur.com/7cT2Ng3.png
[13:51] <nunya> leftyb: I know where keyboard shortcuts is. There just doesn't seem to be any option other than changing shortut to create screenshot. Once again, I am trying to get contents of screen shot to clipboard instead of creating a new image.
[13:51] <leftyfb> nunya: what is your "Copy a screenshot to clipboard" set to?
[13:55] <Koopz> so why are the only results on google on how to fix my dns issues involving disabling whatever daemon may be used as an inbetween for /etc/resolv.conf
[13:56] <leftyfb> Koopz: lets troubleshoot your dns issues then, not google results
[13:57] <Koopz> i got a domain ending in .local, how do i make "nslookup username.projectname.local" work without appending the ip of the network's DNS server
[13:57] <leftyfb> Koopz: systemd-resolve --status|grep "DNS Servers" | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:59] <Koopz> https://termbin.com/o0th now that's a nifty service
[13:59] <Koopz> the 1.10 is correct
[13:59] <leftyfb> Koopz: and what about "nameserver" entries in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[14:00] <Koopz> the usual nameserver 127.0.0.53
[14:01] <leftyfb> Koopz: hm, not sure. I do know that using .local can be problematic due to mDNS
[14:03] <Koopz> what would you recommend as an alternative?
[14:03] <Koopz> .network?
[14:03] <nunya> leftyb: I have changed copy an area screenshot to clipboard shortcut and the screen flashes but nothing in clipboard. Like I said before I think clipboard is broken. Going to reinstall. At least I know where the screenshots are and can import them in gimp or some other editor to work with them. Thanks
[14:04] <leftyfb> nunya: "copy an area screenshot"?
[14:07] <nunya> leftyb: None of the copy screenshot to clipboard shortcuts (area, window,...) work. The screen flashes like it's taking a screenshot but nothing in clipboard.
[14:11] <cluelessperson> I'm experiencing something weir
[14:11] <cluelessperson> running:   rename --help   prints out the help
[14:11] <cluelessperson> but then it just hangs
[14:11] <cluelessperson> and not anymore
[14:11] <cluelessperson> wut
[14:12]  * cluelessperson suspects its the network fs
[14:47] <alterjsive> why does ubuntu use wine-6.16 (Staging)?
[14:47] <alterjsive> by default
[14:48] <alterjsive> shouldn't ubuntu use wine-6.15?
[14:48] <alterjsive> a stable release
[14:49] <alterjsive> I'm having trouble with the latest version
[14:59] <jabberwock> Does the gnome file manager have a "go to folder" shortcut? I would expect to click on the space that shows the folder to be able to type
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> jabberwock: you mean ctrl + l to type a dir?
[15:04] <shark> junk
[15:11] <nunya> leftyb: I couldn't get gnome-screenshot -c to work in custom keyboard shortcuts. I installed flameshot and wrote a custom keyboard shortcut flameshot full -c assigned to Alt CRTL Home That puts screenshot of whole screen into clipboard. Meanwhile I have assigned CRTL Home to put screenshot in ~/Pictures Thanks for your help. I guess something about gnome shell or gnome-screenshot got broken with last update.
[15:28] <cluelessperson> Is there a set of wireless adapters with which ubuntu fully supports wireless AC / 1300mbps plug and play?
[15:30] <lotuspsychje> !hardware | cluelessperson
[15:35] <cluelessperson> lotuspsychje, thank you for the link.  I see that my laptop's adapter isn't listed.
[15:35] <Samnzdat> Linux Election Management System Disk Images how-to: https://termbin.com/hj71
[15:36] <cluelessperson> what is even a Linux Election Management System Disk
[15:37] <cluelessperson> Samnzdat, what's the point of that
[15:37] <cluelessperson> cd pyzozord
[15:38] <Samnzdat> Maricopa County election forensic audit evidence
[15:39] <leftyfb> !ot | Samnzdat
[15:39] <Samnzdat> Someone answered a goddamn question, I answered it.
[15:39] <genii> cluelessperson: Atheros/Qualcomm chipsets also are well supported in Linux. You can find 802.11ac capable versions here, and the products they are found in https://deviwiki.com/wiki/Qualcomm_Atheros#tab=Wireless_chipsets
[15:39] <Samnzdat> s/answered/asked
[15:40] <leftyfb> Samnzdat: nobody asked anything related to disk images or the Maricopa County election
[15:47] <leftyfb> !op | Samnzdat  - spamming some political B.S. in multiple channels
[15:49] <Samnzdat> Thanks for the list of potential allies.
[16:02] <linsux> is there calendar program that's compatible with outlook calendar?
[16:27] <leftyfb> linsux: https://threenine.co.uk/setup-office365-calendar-with-thunderbird/
[18:14] <Spyd> TJ-: I tried what you told me. I had been able to, but when I try to install, the installer crashes doing something in the background just after you click on the "Done" button on the custom partition page of the installation. I tried with both the latest and the LTS ISO of Ubuntu, with the same results. I guess I'm doing something wrong, but I don't know what. I have screenshots of the partitioning (https://paste.pics/31ef1c44ef9452c84828975fb8b4b67d) and the
[18:14] <Spyd> crash message (https://paste.pics/3466f10c6c6c7a0e6b41972820459b73)
[18:18] <Yuvraj> Hi all.
[18:18] <Yuvraj> I am Trying to install ubuntu-server on Wedge 100BF-32X Switch - Intel x86 Broadwell-DE, Pentium D -1517
[18:19] <Yuvraj> But stuck with Error, Please help.
[18:24] <LadyCailin> Have you tried not having the error?
[18:26] <sarnold> Spyd: is there anything in the full report that describes what failed?
[18:27] <Spyd> sarnold: The report has like 50 pages... and what should I look for?
[18:29] <Spyd> sarnold: One thing strange is that when I created the raid volume, I called it md0, but after the first reboot when it crashed, now it's called md127.
[18:29] <TJ-> Spyd: not sure why it would crash. I gave up on installers a long time ago - I can do it quicker and better manually + debootstrap :)
[18:30] <Spyd> TJ-: I'm too much of a noob to even try that.
[18:31] <TJ-> Spyd: after some years fighting ubiquity it becomes 2nd nature :)
[18:32] <sarnold> Spyd: it's usually a good bet to go to the very end and then start reading backwards to find the 'first' error
[18:34] <TJ-> Spyd: one issue I see is sda and sdb don't have identical partition layouts
[18:37] <TJ-> Spyd: that may not be why the installer failed, but where you're trying to create a mirror layout, then even where the RAID1 mirror isn't active (the EFI-SP for example) you should manually duplicate that so in the event the device with the primary EFI-SP fails the system can still boot (you should also ensure using "grub-install --force-extra-removable ..." so grub's core is also installed to the
[18:37] <TJ-> removable media path)
[18:37] <Spyd> I found the error, it says the raid volume is bad? https://paste.pics/d3925ef03000ded63965778e6980f96a
[18:37] <lmat> I did apt install docker; docker; and it says Command 'docker' not found.
[18:38] <lmat> apt install docker; says "docker is already at the newest version"
[18:41] <lmat> How do I install docker in ubuntu?
[18:45] <sarnold> lmat: docker is a system tray tool
[18:45] <sarnold> lmat: you probably want docker.io instead
[18:48] <TJ-> Spyd: "comparing device lists: expected [/dev/sda2, /dev/sda2] found [/dev/sda2, /dev/sdb2]
[18:48] <TJ-> Spyd: looks like (another) installer bug!
[18:49] <lmat> sarnold: so docker is some system tray tool and https://github.com/docker/docker is docker.io?
[18:51] <matsaman> lmat: yup
[18:53] <lmat> matsaman: Thank you for the confirmation. This is fairly surprising, but sounds workable. Thank you!
[18:53] <matsaman> one must be careful choosing a name as simple and bland as 'docker' if one doesn't want to intersect with other projects already existing
[18:57] <sarnold> lmat: exactly that :)
[20:06] <ELFrederich> On 20.04 when I install gimp-plugin-registry I get plugin errors when starting gimp.  The liquid rescale and heal selection plugins are not available.  This wasn't an issue on 18.04.
[20:33] <samy1028> Hello all, I'm trying to find the rsyslog-omudpspoof for 18.04 or 20.04.  Is there a package for it in Ubuntu's repository?  If so, I can't seem to find it.
[20:39] <sarnold> samy1028: I can't find any files with that name in any package in ubuntu focal, nor any files with that name in any source code shipped with any supported version of ubuntu
[20:42] <samy1028> Yeah, I did an update a little while back on 18.04 and it updated rsyslog, but I think my omudpspoof is still on the prior version of rsyslog and the new one doesn't like it anymore.  I guess I could find the .so file to match my build of rsyslog from another distro and copy it to my ubuntu box?  I don't remember exactly as it's been a long time since I set it up initially.
[20:44] <samy1028> or, I wonder if I copied it from 16.04?  I just did a strings on omdupspoof.so and found reference to Ubuntu 5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.9
[20:47] <leftyfb> samy1028: there are no files that exist in 16.04 that match omdupspoof either
[20:47] <leftyfb> samy1028: or omudpspoof
[20:48] <leftyfb> I take that back, there is a .txt and .html file
[20:48] <leftyfb> as part of rsyslog-doc
[20:48] <leftyfb> no modules
[20:49] <leftyfb> samy1028: I searched 16.04, 18.04 and 20.04
[20:50] <leftyfb> samy1028: if it's something you've had before, it's because you added it from a 3rd party
[20:51] <samy1028> odd.  I have to figure out how to make it work again. :)  always fun when something breaks.
[20:52] <samy1028> It's an isolated system whose sole job is to collect syslogs, store them, and forward a few to another system for further reporting/analysis.  The omdupspoof.so is from 2018, last time I worked on it.
[20:52] <scott_tams> "Night Light" has stopped changing the temperature of my screen. Ubuntu 21.04 (wayland/gnome) what do?
[20:52] <samy1028> at least this points me in the rigth direction.  Thank you sarnold and leftyfb.
[20:53] <sarnold> good luck samy1028 :)
[20:53] <samy1028> when I find the solution I'll let ya'll know.
[20:59] <scott_tams> I installed redshift and this is the output but nothing changes https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/KzHznkNYxW/
[20:59] <scott_tams> if no one knows how to fix this, could someone at least advise me on the steps necessary to run 21.04 using X11?
[21:29] <tomreyn> scott_tams: install xserver-xorg. you can switch your session at login
[21:30] <scott_tams> thanks
[21:31] <scott_tams> "xserver-xorg is already set to the newest version"
[21:31] <scott_tams> where does the selection show up in the login screen? I was looking for it yesterday and couldn't find it
[21:36] <tomreyn> scott_tams: i don't have 21.04 installed, but it should be on the first login screen where you pick the username
[21:37] <scott_tams> ok, I'll try it now.
[21:37] <tomreyn> actually no, the second screen
 actually no, the second screen
[21:39] <tomreyn> there's a cog icon on the bottom right corner of the gdm password screen of my 21.10 preview
[21:39] <scott_tams> tomreyn, your message came through just before i /quit. But I didn't see a drop-down in either screen
[21:40] <scott_tams> I'll check once more
[21:40] <tomreyn> https://i.imgur.com/zBAGujz.png
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[21:41] <scott_tams> it didn't work. TBH don't stress about it. This install is having a bunch of problems. Just gonna start from scratch again. Thanks anyway.
[21:42] <scott_tams> I was in here for hours yesterday trying to figure out why it insists on using the nouveau drivers rather than the nvidia ones
[21:44] <tomreyn> long sessions trying to get "nvidia" working aren't unheard of. i can only recommend intel and amd at this time.
[21:45] <tomreyn> (or those better supported graphics on arm64)
[21:46] <scott_tams> absolutely, and if I were in the market for a video card now, i wouldn't even consider Nvidia. But I bought this card 5+ years ago for cheap and it's served me well, so I'm not just gonna throw it out. TBH this troubleshooting session has revealed to me how little value ZFS-on-root snapshots have next to an efficiently rebuildable architecture. I'll try some old snapshots and see if I can recover just for the sake of learning, but I think I'm going
[21:46] <scott_tams> to (yet again) go back to ext4-on-root from a snapshottable root FS
[21:47] <scott_tams> this time, with a rebuildable arch for the whole system as opposed to just the containers
[21:58] <orion> Hello. How can I build only the kernel and not its associated modules with the deb framework? "LANG=C fakeroot debian/rules binary-aws" seems to want to build both.
[21:58] <orion> Alternatively, what's the best way to establish a cadence for kernel development on a remote server?