[01:24] <tsquad> whats the deal with Ubuntu always wanting to restart after updates?
[01:24] <tsquad> Ubuntu 21.04
[01:25] <sarnold> tsquad: that flag is set whenever there's a kernel upgrade or a small selection of library packages get upgraded
[01:25] <sarnold> tsquad: there's kernel updates every three weeks give or take, which is often enough to feel like 'all the time' :)
[01:26] <oerheks> with LTS, one can use Livepatch, to avoid direct the need of updating
[01:26] <tsquad> sarnold: i have been using Mint for years and they seem to never upgrade the kernel so that makes sense. I just 'feel' like every time i get an update i am back on windows
[01:26] <oerheks> and the nasty reboot
[01:27] <tsquad> oerheks: what is Livepatch? how is it different from normal updating?
[01:27] <sarnold> tsquad: I think our hirsute release includes a tool by default that will report which services need restarting after an update; that might make it easier to judge if you need the reboot or not
[01:27] <oerheks> livepatch is like kspice, a kernel update tool
[01:27] <oerheks> !livepatch
[01:28] <tsquad> oh awesome thanks!
[01:28] <oerheks> but.. lts only
[01:28] <tsquad> oh thats right
[01:28] <tsquad> dang
[01:29] <tsquad> wonder if debian does the same thing with kernel upgrades that often
[01:32] <sarnold> I don't think so, but I only skimmed march through september on https://lists.debian.org/debian-changes/
[01:34] <tsquad> thanks!
[01:35] <tsquad> was thinking of switching over to Debian 11 because of that but wanted to find out why it was happening first.
[01:36] <sarnold> if you don't care about the kernel security updates you can just ignore the reboot messages
[01:36] <sarnold> I certainly don't reboot every kernel upgrade
[01:37] <tsquad> hmm, not a bad idea i guess
[01:38] <tsquad> any of you guys use Wayland?
[01:40] <tsquad> been using it for a while now with few issues. Just wish it was supported on some other DEs
[01:43] <sarnold> still xorg here
[01:43] <tsquad> yea i had to switch to Wayland because my new laptop doesnt play nice with external monitors with Xorg
[01:44] <sarnold> oh wow I thought it was usually the other way around :) heh
[01:44] <sarnold> still, thanks for giving it a shot. maybe someday it'll be the thing for me
[01:44] <tsquad> yea with xorg the performance on external displays was TERRIBLE
[01:45] <tsquad> really the only issue I have with Wayland is when certain programs open, or even when certain things happen on web pages, the screen goes black for a sec
[01:46] <tsquad> have not looked into why yet though
[02:01] <[itchyjunk]> Hi, i installed `emacs`. If i go to `Show Application -> Emacs` it open it in a terminal window. if i open a terminal and type `emacs` it open gui emacs. can i make the gui emacs button also open gui emacs?
[02:05] <Croran> [itchyjunk]: open your gui emacs from the terminal, then pin it to your dock.
[02:05] <[itchyjunk]> ah
[02:06] <Croran> [itchyjunk]: btw, what is 'show application' ?
[02:07] <[itchyjunk]> It's the thing with 9 dots at the bottom of pinned applications
[02:07] <Croran> [itchyjunk]: oh, like the 'start menu' equivalent? it opens when you hit your 'windows key'?
[02:07] <[itchyjunk]> If i over over it, it says `Show Applications`
[02:08] <[itchyjunk]> Hm, i tried hitting the window key, that makes all my tabs show up next to each other. not sure how to explain that
[02:09] <Croran> [itchyjunk]: ah ok. sorry I'm on Unity so I'm not super familiar with all the GNOME stuff.
[02:09] <[itchyjunk]> https://i.ibb.co/748mRQz/image.png
[02:09] <[itchyjunk]> the thing at the bottom
[02:09] <Croran> [itchyjunk]: ah sure. yeah kind of like the 'start menu'.
[02:10] <Croran> [itchyjunk]: Unity's equivalent button says 'Search your computer' when you hover. lol.
[02:10] <[itchyjunk]> ah
[02:10] <Croran> [itchyjunk]: you're on 1366x768?
[02:10] <[itchyjunk]> I have no idea
[02:11] <Croran> looks something like that. rough.
[03:07] <lotussiege> helo
[03:11] <tsquad> lotussiege: hello
[04:00] <nergar> hi, I'm trying to recover a vps and I need some help with my routes I think
[04:02] <nergar> I can ping my gateway but if I try to ping 1.1.1.1 I get a Destination Host Unreachable
[04:03] <nergar> I configured my ens3 device with 6.3.80.29/24 and my gateway is 6.3.80.1/24
[04:03] <nergar> how do i need to configure my routes?
[04:04] <nergar> I so far added two:
[04:04] <nergar> ip r a 6.3.80.0/24 via 6.3.80.1 dev ens3
[04:05] <nergar> ip r a default via 6.3.80.29 dev ens3
[04:08] <guiverc> nergar, you've provided no OS & release details.
[04:09] <nergar> 20.04.03
[04:10] <nergar> i thought it was the same for all ubuntu versions and roughly linux in general
[04:10] <nergar> routing, that is
[04:25] <saul_> hello, everybody, I hope all you help me, how can I initialize the fan of my dell g3
[04:27] <yukiup> plug it in?
[04:30] <saul_> wow, you're very smart
[04:31] <Croran> saul_: is that a gaming laptop?
[04:31] <saul_> yes
[04:32] <Croran> saul_: what do you mean by 'initialize the fan'?
[04:34] <saul_> Cronan : this laptop has a special button for an extra fan starts
[04:34] <saul_> Cronan: but when I installed Ubuntu that fan doesnt work
[04:36] <yukiup> :/
[04:38] <yukiup> there is a lengthy (first google search result) that might help, https://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed
[04:40] <Croran> saul_: try this https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/controlling-dell-fan-speeds-temperature-on-ubuntu-debian-linux/
[04:44] <saul_> Cronan: I've tried to do twice and I got this error "insmod /lib/modules/5.11.0-34-generic/kernel/drivers/hwmon/dell-smm-hwmon.ko restricted=0
[04:44] <saul_> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'dell_smm_hwmon': No such device"
[04:49] <rabbitnightmare> doing network installs of Ubuntu and I will have to install a few locally
[04:49] <rabbitnightmare> on Arch I have to efibootmgr -b XXXX -B before installation cleanly
[04:49] <rabbitnightmare> does Ubuntu install remove EFI entries?
[04:58] <Croran> saul_: then i'm not sure. may be too new to be supported by the dell module.
[04:58] <Croran> saul_: have you tried with ubuntu 21.04?
[04:59] <saul_> rabbitnightmare: yeah, I did that before I installed Ubuntu if I didnt do it I cant did it
[04:59] <Croran> or 21.10 beta?
[04:59] <saul_> Cronan: I only tried to do on 20.04
[05:00] <Croran> rabbitnightmare: i wonder. doesn't efi install put something in NVRAM or some such?
[05:01] <Croran> saul_: then the newer versions may be worth a try. which actual model is your system? g3 encompasses like... 3 model years of different systems. with intel 8th gen, ryzen, intel 9th gen... etc.
[05:08] <saul_> Cronan: intel 10th gen
[05:39] <tsujp> I'm using `StandardOutput=append:/var/log-test.log` under `[Service]` for a systemd service file I have (the process does not have any output redirection) but the file `/var/log-test.log` is empty? I have done `systemctl daemon-reload` and then `systemctl restart theservice` beforehand. Anyone know what's up?
[05:43] <TheBigK> tsujp: doesnt journalctl do exactly what u want already?
[05:43] <tsujp> It does but I want the logs in a very specific file (location)
[05:43] <TheBigK> okay. got it
[05:45] <tsujp> Any idea from yourself? `systemctl status theservice` or `journalctl -u theservice` shows logs so I am stumped as to why they are not also going into that file
[05:45] <tsujp> Am I missing extra configuration here?
[05:46] <alkisg> tsujp: try /var/log/test.log to make sure it's not permissions issues (log is owned by syslog)
[05:46] <alkisg> Also, you could ask in #systemd...
[05:47] <TheBigK> which ubuntu u got @tsujp
[05:48] <tsujp> TheBigK 20.04.3
[05:48] <tsujp> alkisg will try now
[05:48] <TheBigK> i found file: should be may be doing simething
[05:48] <TheBigK> replace append with file and see atleast if that works
[05:49] <tsujp> No dice alkisg
[05:49] <tsujp> I did `file:` too just then with no effect
[05:50] <TheBigK> big F
[05:50] <TheBigK> which systemd version u got?
[05:50] <TheBigK> i have no lts... so im sorry to ask
[05:51] <tsujp> 245
[05:52] <TheBigK> that should work thjen
[05:54] <TheBigK> DefaultStandardOutput= <- can u try adding that to file:/
[05:55] <TheBigK> as a workaround u could use a specific syslog filter and write the log that way which would include logrotate as well.. mich might come in handy
[05:55] <tsujp> DefaultStandardOutput to `file:/var/log/test.log` right?
[05:56] <TheBigK> DefaultStandardOutput=file:/var/log/test.log <- yes
[05:56] <TheBigK> is that service running as root?
[05:56] <tsujp> I just tested this with `echo "sdadas"` as a systemd service which works so this is _probably_ something to do with the service being a shell script which runs a docker container? But as mentioned before `journalctl -u theservice` shows logs so it's not like it cannot see them or anything
[05:56] <tsujp> No it's running as a user
[05:57] <tsujp> I tried /home/user/test.log which didn't work either
[05:57] <TheBigK> then the permission should be corrected as the user of the service i would assume
[05:57] <tsujp> Trying defaultstandardoutput now
[05:57] <TheBigK> okay
[05:57] <TheBigK> check man systemd.exec ... there is a lot of documentation about that ... and theres also a section about shell scripts...
[05:58] <tsujp> Nothing still
[05:58] <TheBigK> is syslog an option for u?
[05:59] <tsujp> It is
[05:59] <TheBigK> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/37585758/how-to-redirect-output-of-systemd-service-to-a-file <- checkout that one then
[06:00] <tsujp> I'll give that a shot
[06:10] <tsujp> No dice... something is really wrong here
[06:20] <tsujp> Okay I've got a vanilla rsyslog config but it's telling me invalid command QueueWorkerThreads, QueueFilename etc
[06:20] <tsujp> Anyone know which module provides these?
[06:27] <tsujp> Got it, some garbage service installed a .conf file which I deleted and now things work
[07:13] <Nitrigaur> I'm trying to setup a secure multi-boot installation of Ubuntu 21.04 (LUKS -> LVM), but the installer can't seem to copy any files to my chosen root partition and fails shortly after having input the necessary login data for a user account.
[07:15] <Nitrigaur> Should I switch to the Ubuntu Server Live Image instead?
[07:18] <Nitrigaur> I need the most recent kernel available because of hardware support. Else I would have chosen the LTS instead.
[07:19] <kilzool> Could someone help me with?  Long term Ubuntu 20.04 - nvidia -- very rarely, it gets removed, and doesn't update.  I have to use another backup.  Tell me which logs to upload?
[07:20] <alkisg> Nitrigaur: 21.04 and 20.04.3 have the same kernel, 5.11
[07:20] <alkisg> It's called long term support for a reason :)
[07:24] <Nitrigaur> alkisg, I see, but is the installer of LTS version more capable when it comes to relatively complex installation scenarios featuring a LUKS -> LVM sandwich?
[07:24] <alkisg> Nitrigaur: no idea, I haven't used either :)
[07:26] <Croran> wow irssi seems extremely minimal. is there an easy way to add a sidebar with list of channels? to integrate DE notifications? to add a sidebar with a list of users in the current channel?
[07:27] <Nitrigaur> Croran, please refer to the Irssi channel instead.
[07:27] <Croran> alkisg: what about 21.10 beta? still same kernel?
[07:28] <alkisg> Croran: no idea, I think it'll release with 5.13 or something, not sure if they include that yet
[07:29] <alkisg> I'll install 22.04 alpha, but I don't bother with non-LTS editions...
[07:38] <hajonnes> I try to use the command 'blacklist' but it is not installed, is it the same command as zblacklist wich apt suggest I should install?
[08:03] <kilzool> I'm all set.
[08:56] <loomy> anyone knows how to fix my routing problem? my router sets up different ip for my rpi after each restart https://loomy.vudiq.sk/ip.txt
[09:21] <loomy> i tried editing /etc/resolv.conf and restarting systemd-resolved.service but that didnt help much
[09:22] <EriC^^> loomy: i think you're not supposed to edit it, something else has to be edited, not sure what though
[09:27] <loomy> i even did ifconfig eth0 down; sleep 10; ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
[09:27] <loomy> didnt help either
[09:28] <loomy> ip route flush cache did nothing too
[09:32] <ogra> how did you get ifconfig on there ? that has been deprecated years ago and might conflict with todays setup methods
[09:35] <ogra> on a desktop install you should use "nmtui" if configuring from commandline ... on a server install you use netplan ... https://netplan.io/ has example configurations
[10:08] <jeremy31> loomy: Can't your router set a static IP based on MAC?
[10:56] <hypocrite> hi i have a problem with my ssd that i can't install ubuntu on ssd with ext4 filesystem for root partition. i can create root directory with other filesystems except ext4
[10:57] <hypocrite> any idea?
[11:00] <hypocrite> thanks
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> oO
[11:12] <lalitmee1> exit
[11:12] <lalitmee1> exit
[11:40] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:40] <loomy> jeremy31: i would like to set it up but i dont know how
[11:40] <loomy> i will look into it
[12:03] <loomy> Primary IP Address:
[12:03] <loomy> 192.168.1.18 (Static)
[12:04] <loomy> thats in router settings
[12:13] <anonymous> hello
[12:13] <anonymous> hello people
[12:13] <anonymous> ??
[12:19] <loomy> ogra: ifconfig at least works.. while nmtui and netplan show command not found
[12:19] <ogra> loomy, then you are not using an official ubuntu image but something else
[12:23] <loomy> yeah sorry its raspbian :>
[12:23] <loomy> but still the same thing, no?
[12:23] <ogra> not at all and nothign we can support here
[12:24] <ogra> completely different selection of packages, different kernel, other defaults etc
[12:42] <ecormier> hi all, I've symlinked some software I wrote in /home to /usr/local/bin, I can see the file there using ls, but for some reason I can't call the command .... I've checked my $PATH and it does contain /usr/local/bin..... any ideas? thanks
[12:42] <ikonia> not executable ?
[12:42] <ikonia> not got the right permissions ?
[12:43] <ecormier> I'll double check, but I rsynced it so permissions should be there
[12:43] <ecormier> it is executable, it won't even bash autocomplete
[12:43] <ikonia> run it fully qualified, see if it errors
[12:44] <ecormier> root won't even run it
[12:44] <ikonia> what does it say when you try to run it
[12:44] <ecormier> no such file or directory
[12:45] <ikonia> what exactly are you typing
[12:45] <ecormier> and I can run the linked file directly no problem
[12:45] <ecormier> rudi
[12:45] <ikonia> ls -la /usr/local/bin/rudi
[12:46] <ecormier> haha thank you... it's not an absolute path, I'll fix it, thanks!
[12:46] <ikonia> super
[12:46] <ecormier> readlink, I should always check readlink :)
[12:46] <ikonia> easy mistake
[12:49] <rud0lf> what?
[12:49] <devuser> hello,test message
[12:49] <ikonia> we can see you
[12:51] <rud0lf> hello, test answer
[12:52] <devuser> this is my first login, I'm a engineer
[13:05] <john_rambo> Hi, I just for the first time configured UFW to deny all out by default ..... I am adding outgoing ports one by one as per my need .....I cant ping any website .....Which outgoing port should I allow so that I can ping websites ?
[13:07] <ogra> john_rambo, try https://askubuntu.com/questions/6995/how-to-enable-ufw-firewall-to-allow-icmp-response
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> john_rambo: see also the #netfilter channel where the firewall experts gather
[14:07] <pycurious> if i want a tar file to contain a few files on the ubuntu system with different file paths - how can i do that? (I want the tar file to write to /opt - /usr/bin - /home/ etc)
[14:52] <nathan12> Hey, I recently updated from kernel 5.4.0-81 to 5.4.0-84 and my system started freezing within a few seconds of boot every time. Is there a way for me to get a log where the cause might be found so I can report it?
[14:52] <ikonia> where is it freezing ?
[14:53] <nathan12> It freezes on the login screen, although one time I typed my password quickly enough that it froze after that
[14:53] <nathan12> So whatever the cause is, it happens between 2 and 5 seconds after the login screen appears
[14:56] <alkisg> nathan12: if you run `apt install linux-generic-hwe-20.04` you'll get to 5.11 ; you could first check if it works there and not bother with 5.4 at all
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> not sure thats a good idea atm alkisg a lot of 5.11 bus occur recently
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> *bugs
[14:58] <alkisg> lotuspsychje: really? Oh OK, I wasn't aware of it
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: check out #ubuntu-bugs-announce its raining atm
[16:30] <samy1028> leftyfb and sarnold,  I found my notes about rsyslog-omudpspoof from 2+ years ago.  "I had to compile from source and used "./configure --enable-omudpspoof" and "make" on a separate Ubuntu 16.04 system with GCC installed.  I then copied "./plugins/omudpspoof/.libs/omudpspoof.so" to the live system's "/usr/lib/rsyslog" directory."
[16:31] <samy1028> So, I'm currently spinning up a separate dev Ubuntu VM to compile rsyslog from source and I'll copy the library to my live system.
[16:31] <Tazy> Hi all, I am struggling with my pi, an external USB HDD keeps going into this state where I can't access the folder, and if I try to unmount the drive, I get target is busy and need to reboot?
[16:31] <samy1028> just wanted to let you know that I found the answer from my question yesterday.
[16:33] <leftyfb> Tazy: cat /etc/os-release | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:33] <ikonia> Tazy: you can't unmount it as either you have a file open or you're in the directory under the mount point
[16:33] <Tazy> https://termbin.com/uqev
[16:34] <leftyfb> Tazy: as ikonia said, make sure you are not IN the directory you are trying to unmount
[16:34] <Tazy> well I can't access that folder either
[16:34] <ikonia> what folder
[16:34] <ikonia> where is the mount point ?
[16:34] <Tazy>   /mnt/T
[16:35] <Tazy> okay so my screen session was still in it
[16:35] <ikonia> there you go
[16:35] <Tazy> so now I can umount and mount again
[16:35] <Tazy> but it's odd that this keeps happening
[16:35] <Tazy> like it almost goes offline ?
[16:35] <ikonia> what keeps happening ?
[16:36] <Tazy> that this drive, goes into this state that I can't even do a ls in the folder. and samba says the shared folder is empty
[16:36] <ikonia> what happens if you do an 'ls'
[16:36] <leftyfb> Tazy: the usb drive is probably going to sleep mode and you just need to wait for it to spin up before it will return a directory listing
[16:36] <Tazy> "bash: cd: ../: Transport endpoint is not connected"
[16:37] <leftyfb> Tazy: troubleshoot from the filesystem, not from the samba share
[16:37] <Tazy> that was from my ssh session
[16:38] <ikonia> dmesg will show you the state of the drive
[16:38] <Tazy> also this is some combination of screen, that is cd'd to that folder and the drive going to sleep
[16:38] <Tazy> erm there are a few errors
[16:39] <leftyfb> Tazy: dmesg -T | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:39] <Tazy> https://bpa.st/WCSA
[16:39] <Tazy> https://termbin.com/dpfg full dmesg
[16:42] <leftyfb> bad drive/filesystem
[16:42] <Tazy> Might need to check the filesystem
[16:45] <ogra> Tazy, is that an actual HDD/SSD or just an USB stick ?
[16:45] <Tazy> HDD in a usb enclosure
[16:46] <ogra> note that the majority of HDD and SDD require actual external power
[16:46] <ogra> (on a pi that is)
[16:46] <Tazy> 2.5"
[16:46] <leftyfb> oh, forgot it was a pi
[16:46] <ogra> well, powered ?
[16:46] <Tazy> Oh sorry it's not a PI, intel up board
[16:46] <leftyfb> Tazy: yeah, it definitely needs external power
[16:46] <Tazy> got usb3, with enough power
[16:46] <ogra> the pi doesnt
[16:46] <ogra> unless yu have some giant power supply
[16:47] <ogra> (like 5A or some such)
[16:47] <leftyfb> Tazy: you might want to check out the specs more closely, you more than likely need an external power supply. Definitely if it's not an SSD
[16:47] <ogra> even for most SSDs you need one
[16:48] <ikonia> show me the output of uname -a
[16:48] <ikonia> I wonder....
[16:48] <Tazy> 5A power supply for the up board. https://up-board.org/up/specifications/
[16:48] <ogra> ah, Up board is rather different ...
[16:48] <Tazy> "Linux CHT01 5.4.0-81-generic #91-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jul 15 19:09:17 UTC 2021 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux"
[16:49] <leftyfb> Tazy: is it an SSD or spinner?
[16:49] <Tazy> yeah it's USB's give enough power
[16:49] <Tazy> spinner
[16:49] <Tazy> It runs fine for days on end
[16:49] <leftyfb> yeah, no. You 100% need an external power supply
[16:51] <ogra> yeah, for a spinner you very likely need one ... motors are current-hungry
[16:52] <pycurious> if i want a tar file to contain a few files on the ubuntu system with different file paths - how can i do that? (I want the tar file to write to /opt - /usr/bin - /home/ etc)
[16:53] <ikonia> Tazy I wonder if power management is kicking in, those boards dont comply with apci standard
[16:53] <Tazy> ikonia, possible ?
[16:53] <leftyfb> Tazy: community.intel.com/t5/Intel-NUCs/NUC5PPYH-USB-port-does-not-supply-enough-my-2-5-external-hard/m-p/285911#M3933
[16:53] <ogra> Tazy, I/O errors are always either failing hardware or failing/missing power
[16:53] <Tazy> Maybe due to temp
[16:53] <ikonia> Tazy: I have this problem on a silverstone raid array, where it goes to sleep as a device wiht power management, because of a similar problem with a similar low grade consumer board
[16:53] <Tazy> maybe I need to try the usb3 power
[16:53] <leftyfb> Tazy: what is the model# of your Kingston hard drive?
[16:53] <ikonia> it actually causes the host to crash
[16:53] <ikonia> but the root cause is the power management puts the array to sleep
[16:54] <Tazy> leftyfb, it's a kingston HDD enclosure
[16:54] <leftyfb> Tazy: ok, that needs a lot more than 900mA which is all that your USB3 port can supply
[16:54] <ikonia> the chipset will matter too, I thikn the 'oxford' chipsets are the only ones that work well with power management too
[16:54] <ikonia> can't remember the exact models but audio forums will detail the good chipset
[16:54] <ogra> you could try an Y-cable if you have one ...
[16:55] <ogra> (and a spare USB port indeed)
[17:00] <ArticulateHacker> SSHD by default supports ssh-rsa, rsa-sha2-256, and rsa-sha2-512 (among others) for host key signature algorithms. I want to remove support for ssh-rsa because it uses SHA1. When I remove ssh-rsa from the HostKeyAlgorithms line in sshd_config it also removes rsa-sha2-256 and rsa-sha2-512. Is there any way to remove only ssh-rsa?
[17:01] <england_bound> Hello?
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> !ask | england_bound
[17:12] <england_bound> Good afternoon
[17:14] <leftyfb> england_bound: this is a support channel. If you've got a support question, please give the details here including the version of ubuntu you are running and potentially a pastebin of errors you are coming across. If you are just looking for a place to chat, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:58] <croraf> Anyone knows what I have to do to use a card reader? It gets detected correctly in lsusb:
[17:58] <croraf> Bus 001 Device 007: ID 0ca6:0010 Castles Technology Co., Ltd EZUSB PC/SC Smart Card Reader
[17:58] <croraf> But what to do from here?
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> croraf: you might need the tools pcscd pcsc-tools
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> croraf: what will you be doing exactly with your card reader?
[18:02] <croraf> I need to use my goverment's services using my ID card
[18:03] <croraf> lotuspsychje,
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> croraf: its also country depending, for me for example belgium needs eid-mw eid-archive eid-viewer to login onto gov sites with my ID
[18:05] <croraf> Hmmm, perhaps I can access using Mobile.ID application, it says on the gov's page.
[18:06] <croraf> "Download the eID Middleware software package for your operating system and install it on your computer, then insert the ID card into the smart card reader."
[18:06] <croraf> It's Croatia, so also EU.
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> croraf: see what apt-cache gives you on eid
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> croraf: you might need to install one package, then sudo apt update to get other packages out of that
[18:10] <noarb> some time ago a script from the security team was shared with me that uses apt-ftparchive to generate an offline repository out of debs ... does anyone have an idea of where those are hosted so I can browse for it? I've lost the link
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> noarb: apt-offline what you look for?
[18:13] <croraf> lotuspsychje, OK, I found instructions how to install it. There is a custom package from my government
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> croraf: great! after installing your govs eid, you might need sudo apt update
[18:15] <noarb> lotuspsychje: I wasn't able to get apt-offline to work the last time I had tried to set it up. Maybe this was it: https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu-security-tools/tree/repo-tools/update_repo
[18:15] <croraf> lotuspsychje, the instructions dont say that, I need to reinstall my PC though. Please don't reply until I'm back online, cause my debouncer is not working
[18:16] <noarb> I'm trying to get qemu-kvm libvirt-daemon-system libvirt-clients with their dependencies available for installation from a usb drive (no internet access)
[18:22] <sarnold> samy1028: did you have to get the source from the rsyslog upstream? or did you have to get sources from an omudpspoof upstream?
[18:28] <xrandr> Hi, I am not sure which channel to ask this in, so I figured I'd start here.  I have installed OnlyOffice and removed Libreoffice.  I was wondering if there was a way to launch the separate editors (word, excel, etc) instead of using the OnlyOffice launcher?
[18:31] <croraf> xrandr, maybe ask them directly here: https://www.onlyoffice.com/en/desktop.aspx
[18:32] <xrandr> croraf: ok, thank you.  Would you happen to know how to set OnlyOffice as the default app in Ubuntu to open .docx, .xlsx, etc ?
[18:33] <matsaman> xrandr: you can probably do that from the file manager by right-clicking > properties
[18:33] <xrandr> Thank you
[18:33] <matsaman> xrandr: onlyoffice, you use some upstream proprietary binary installer for that, right?
[18:33] <samy1028> sarnold, I got the rsyslog tarball from https://www.rsyslog.com/files/download/rsyslog/rsyslog-8.2104.0.tar.gz
[18:33] <samy1028> , then ran configure to enable omudpspoof, copied the .so to the live site.  I'll restart rsyslog this evening after hours with the updated .so in place.  I found some references to the Ubuntu rsyslog maintainers not wanting to add this module into the Ubuntu repository, probably because not many people use it.
[18:34] <xrandr> matsaman: I'm running ZorinOS which is a Ubuntu derivative. There's no zorin support channel on here that I saw, so I cam here.  Anyway, I installed it using the Software installer, which I believe installs it as a snap
[18:34] <sarnold> samy1028: aha, cool :) thanks
[18:35] <matsaman> xrandr: ah
[18:35] <matsaman> xrandr: so what does dpkg -L onlyoffice | grep -i bin say?
[18:35] <xrandr> matsaman: dpkg-query: package 'onlyoffice' is not installed
[18:35] <xrandr> so definitely a snap
[18:36] <matsaman> mmm, I suspected snaps would not expose any useful info, but hoped otherwise =P
[18:36] <xrandr> It's ok. The file manager automagically set OnlyOffice as the default app after Libreoffice was removed. I just didn't see it.
[18:36] <xrandr> Thank you :)
[18:38] <privato89> Hi guys
[18:38] <privato89> I need to create a keyboard shourtcut of a shell command
[18:39] <apb_> 20.04 Are there any reasons why I should not use my sdd drive for swap?  Also, file or partition?  I would think partition swap would be faster, but I don't know for sure.
[18:39] <privato89> I thought that maybe I could make a .sh file and revoke it trought shortcut
[18:39] <apb_> I should mention all my files are on hdd.
[18:40] <privato89> but I don't know how to do it
[18:40] <privato89> Is there someone who can help me? Thnaks
[18:40] <apb_> privato89, I'm guessing you want to look at key bindings.  That's all I know.
[18:41] <privato89> apb_ , no, I have a shell command and wanna revoke it trought shortcut
[18:43] <xrandr> matsaman: I uninstalled the snap and installed the .deb file (runs faster this way), and the dpkg -L command you sent me did output quite a bit. Seems that you need to use the launcher though :)
[18:43] <croraf> lotuspsychje, card reader is not detected. Do I also need to install its drivers appart from this eID application?
[18:44] <apb_> privato89, revoke or invoke?  Revoke means cancel.  Invoke means start.  Anyway, I found this link... not sure if it's what you want.  https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/keyboard-shortcuts-set.html.en
[18:45] <matsaman> xrandr: if there aren't separate executables, there might be some optional params you can append to the unified launcher command
[18:50] <xrandr> matsaman: that's what I was thinking :)
[18:52] <ELFrederich> Can someone walk me through getting Gimp installed on a fresh Ubuntu 20.04 with the "heal selection" and "liquid rescale" plugin?
[18:54] <matsaman> ELFrederich: https://github.com/bootchk/resynthesizer/wiki/Resynthesizer-and-GIMP-version-3
[18:59] <ELFrederich> matsaman, is it possible?
[18:59] <ELFrederich> as far as I can tell Gimp on Ubutnu 20.04 is at version 2.10, that link is about 2.99.x and 3.x
[19:09] <ELFrederich> I've got a fresh VM to use, just not sure where to start... snap or apt?
[19:16] <privato89> Can someone help me?
[19:17] <matsaman> privato89: with what?
[19:17] <matsaman> ELFrederich: if you can't decide yourself, I'd stick with the more traditional
[19:17] <privato89> I need to invoke a shell command with a keyboard shortcut
[19:17] <matsaman> privato89: in regular Ubuntu?
[19:17] <privato89> yes
[19:18] <matsaman> https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/keyboard-shortcuts-set.html.en
[19:18] <sarnold> wow
[19:19] <privato89> I can't do it with the guide you sent me
[19:20] <privato89> this is the command: https://bpa.st/MYPQ
[19:21] <sarnold> privato89: try putting that into a shell script, so that you can replace that whole thing with just /home/privato89/bin/change-opacity.sh   or something similar
[19:22] <sarnold> it's possible it can't handle subshells etc
[19:24] <privato89> sarnold, I thought it already, but I don't know how to create it
[19:26] <ELFrederich> matsaman, okay... I went to apt.  Installed gimp and gimp-plugin-registry.  These are the errors I get:  https://bpa.st/XJAA
[19:26] <ELFrederich> So, no "liquid rescale" and no "heal selection"
[19:26] <sarnold> privato89: aha :) try: mkdir ~/bin ; nano ~/bin/change-opacity.sh ;   add #!/bin/bash  on the first line, then your line as the second line; save and exit nano; then ; chmod 755 ~/bin/change-opacity.sh   ; then try running ~/bin/change-opacity.sh  and see if it works..
[19:27] <privato89> sarnold, thanks, I try :)
[19:34] <ioria> privato89, the win id will change each  time .... what's the purpose of a shortcut ? (sy for asking)
[19:34] <privato89> sarnold, it workssss XD
[19:35] <sarnold> ioria: my guess / assumption is that privato89 will be changing the script once every session
[19:35] <sarnold> privato89: wooooo
[19:36] <ioria> i see
[19:36] <privato89> ioria, that one was the wrong line, it works with the right one without id
[19:36] <sarnold> ioria: I did that for a while to get some urgent notifications for an irssi running in a screen session or something like that
[19:36] <ioria> ok
[19:36] <checkers> hello
[20:02] <Annoyed-> Greetings
[20:34] <Annoyed-> Greetings. I had a power failure today. I've got an install of Ubuntu 20.04.3 on a dedicated machine, (Linux only, no other OS). I knew power was dying, and I was shutting down (shutdown -h now) and just as I hit enter, power died. After power restored, the machine won't boot normally. I get errors: error: /boot/vmlinuz-5.4.0-802109010901-generic has invalid signature and error: you need to load the kernel first
[20:35] <Annoyed-> I can boot it from an old generic kernel via the recovery menu
[20:35] <sarnold> yay
[20:37] <Annoyed-> The hits I get back from google seem to indicate something about a signed kernel and windows secure boot... this machine doesn't have any other OS on it.
[20:37] <sarnold> you should be able to use apt install --reinstall   with your kernel packages to ask those files to be rewritten
[20:47] <Annoyed-> Seems to be a ton of entries for that.... 802109010901-generic   which do I want, or is there a package that grabs them all?
[20:52] <Annoyed-> Hmmm... I'll have to come back later.. don't have any more time now. thanks for the suggestion
[21:04] <onelegend> huh
[21:52] <gmcastil> what fields are mandatory in /var/lib/dpkg/status ?