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n00bletHi, ubuntu is not recognizing the ethernet cable I am using for internet00:12
n00bletwifi works fine00:12
n00bletthe cable works fine when i boot into windows on the same hardware00:13
n00bletany idea why this is happening/how to fix it?00:13
sarnoldn00blet: does replacing the cable make the nic work?00:16
n00bletNot sure what nic is but swapping the cable doesn't fix it00:17
sarnoldnic == network interface card00:18
sarnoldn00blet: is this a 'standard desktop' sort of system? if so, you're probably using network manager; look around that for some connection information or edit connection things, and see if your ethernet card is enabled, if it's allowed to be used, if it has correct settings, etc00:20
Swift110-mobilesup folks00:21
Swift110-mobilesup Mathisen00:27
Swift110-mobilesup matsaman00:27
matsamanhowdy00:29
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n00bletsarnold i've poked around and lshw shows the ethernet status is UNCLAIMED00:35
sarnoldn00blet: oh, wow, I think that means there's no driver loaded for it. I wonder if it's supported by linux at all00:36
n00bletGoogle is suggesting that I will need to upgrade my kernel for driver support00:43
n00bletGoing to give that a shot. ty for your help00:44
sarnoldoh that's promising; it's not always good news00:44
sarnoldif you're on an LTS release, selecting the 'hwe' kernels may do the trick00:44
sarnoldthose are newer than the 'release' kernel, they're offered specifically for more hardware support :)00:45
n00bletOh wow, they're already up to 5.14, i'm on 5.800:46
oerheks!hwe00:53
ubottuThe Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack00:53
Maceris there a way to slow down 2 finger scrolling on a synaptic trackpad?01:28
Maceri'm using wayland01:28
sarnoldMacer: I can't promise there is, but if there is I expect you can get there using the xinput tool; try xinput list to get a list of devices..01:29
sarnoldMacer: then xinput list-props "device name here"  to get a list of properties..01:30
sarnoldMacer: I use these lines to set some settings on my touchpad:01:30
sarnoldxinput set-prop "Synaptics TM3289-021" "libinput Accel Speed" 101:30
sarnoldxinput set-prop "Synaptics TM3289-021" "libinput Tapping Enabled" 101:30
Macerhm01:35
Macer    ↳ Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpadid=10[slave  keyboard (3)]01:35
Macerdoesn't seem like it's using any type of synaptic driver01:35
Macernot sure if wayland would work with xinput01:36
sarnoldhmm that's possible01:36
sarnoldI figured it was a way to configure libinput, but don't know for sure that it'd work for configuring libunput in wayland01:36
Macersarnold: ah ok. it does look like xinput works02:03
Macerso there is that02:03
Macerkind of weird. i honestly do not understand wayland vs xorg02:03
sarnoldMacer: yay :)02:03
Maceris wayland something different or is it something that just disposed of some of the unnecessary xorg things?02:03
sarnoldMacer: were you able to find any properties for your touchpad thing that works?02:04
Maceri don't really understand a decent way to make this permanent now02:04
Maceryes02:04
sarnolddouble yay :)02:04
Macerxinput --set-prop 11 'Synaptics Scrolling Distance' 700 70002:04
Macerthat worked02:04
sarnoldre: permanent, I'm not sure :( what compositor are you using? it probably has an 'autorun' feature of some sort02:04
Macerit isn't shooting like 30 pages with 1" of trackpad haha02:04
sarnoldsweet02:04
Maceri'm using whatever ubuntu uses nowadays02:04
onelegendsarnold: yoooo02:07
sarnoldhey onelegend02:07
sarnoldMacer: I'm finding a lot of bad advice, but the one I've liked so far was to use systemd user service files02:07
sarnoldMacer: systemd user service files doesn't feel right either, but the others so far look worse :)02:07
Macerwell i mean usually this would be some sort of xinitrc thing02:08
sarnoldyeah, I stuffed my lines in ~/.xsessionrc :) piece of cake... dunno wayland. gnome's not big on easy things, they usually have .desktop files and autorun/ directories and so on02:10
Maceryah. i'm trying to figure out where to put it. at least i know the command that fixes it02:11
Macerit was driving me insane heh02:11
bobdobbsHi all. I'm looking for a tool that will let me send text files to a pastebin-like service. I've got pastebinit installed, but can't get it to work.02:12
bobdobbsI can't seem to find a similar tool in the default repos. But I might have missed one (or all of them)02:12
sarnoldbobdobbs: sadly the recent changes to the ubuntu pastebin site have made it far less useful02:12
sarnoldbobdobbs: pastebinit can send to other sites, and I think a few of them still work with it, but it's not great02:13
sarnoldbobdobbs: I've switched to using | nc termbin.com 9999    -- probably I should make a shell alias for it but I haven't done that yet02:13
bobdobbssarnold: I've been trying and failing to get pastebinit to work with other sites, I'm afriad02:13
bobdobbsnetcat?02:13
sarnoldbobdobbs: dang ;(02:13
sarnoldyeah02:13
sarnoldnetcat's a fantastic little thing02:13
bobdobbshuh. neat tricj02:13
bobdobbsso what is a typical command? cat the file and output it to nc?02:14
bobdobbspipe it, I mean02:14
bobdobbssarnold: hey! that works!02:15
bobdobbssarnold: thanks!02:15
oerhekscat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 999902:15
sarnoldbobdobbs: you can also do standard shell things like nc termbin.com 9999 < /tmp/whatever   to read the file that way02:15
nikolamI am really dissatisfied how Linux in general and Ubuntu handles missing non-system volumes present on /etc/fstab on boot.02:53
nikolamI changed non-system drive and whole boot proces halted for 2X 3 minutes and never normally boots, just hangs there , if there is no particular volume od a drive available on boot. It is really ridiculous how bad it looks like and how lousy impression that leaves..02:54
nikolamAnd it never get back to normal, until I realized I need to edit /and comment out some volumes, before I exchange drives.. and BEFORE I reboot..02:55
oerheksmissing non-system volumes present on /etc/fstab on boot... explain?03:08
sarnoldnikolam: maybe you want to add "nofail do not report errors for this device if it does not exist." to your devices that you'll change -- see the fstab(5) manpage for more options03:11
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n00bletI switched to a newer kernel and my wired connection works now. Thanks to whoever was helping me earlier (using webchat so no history lol)04:26
oerhekshave fun, n00blet04:27
Swift110-mobilehey oerheks05:08
Erroneouswhat the command to instal json on ubuntu root05:41
alkisgErroneous: json is a file format, not a program. What do you mean?05:43
Erroneousso how can i add them on05:44
Erroneousbecause my eggdrop need json and http05:45
Erroneousjson and http not found on my shell05:45
MathisenErroneous, what you need is to load http.tcl before any plugin that needs it05:48
Erroneousah so this is on the eggdrop side? not root?05:48
Mathisenyep05:49
Erroneousi need both http and json05:49
Erroneousany idea how to run it bro. cant find in goodle05:49
Mathisenand you should take a look at limnoria bot instead of an eggdrop. a more modern version for a irc bot and python based with same plugins you find for your outaded eggdrop05:49
Mathisenread the docs05:50
ErroneousMathisen do you mean there is new bot called limnoria ?05:54
Erroneousthis is the latest?05:54
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Mathisenyes there is a bot called limnoria > https://github.com/ProgVal/Limnoria05:57
Erroneousi am noob from eggdrop05:58
Erroneousso i will start using limnoria is it easiest thatn eggies?05:58
Mathisenyes05:58
Erroneoushttps://limnoria.net/ <<-there wbsite dont even work bro...05:59
alkisgErroneous: See https://github.com/ProgVal/Limnoria; you may also join #limnoria, their irc channel06:04
alkisgThey may have temporary hosting issues06:04
alkisgIt's still actively maintained, unlike eggdrop06:04
Erroneousok good06:06
Erroneousi need to see website so i can read manual instructions06:06
Erroneousalkisg do you have bot in lmnoria?06:07
alkisgErroneous: yes, in the #ltsp channel, it's called ltspbot06:07
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omega_doomAfter recent update left ctrl on my usb keyboard stopped working. What can i do to fix it?07:14
omega_doomright ctrl is working and laptop keys are working fine.07:15
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ducasseErroneous: you can also find the docs here - https://limnoria-doc.readthedocs.io/_/downloads/en/latest/pdf/07:37
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jpichi all, i'm investigating a server which seems to sometimes change its FQDN to "hostname.unassigned-domain" instead of its right FQDN. I have found in /var/log/installer/cdebconf/questions.dat that Name: netcfg/get_domain got Value: unassigned-domain, instead of the right value they have on their other servers, so that seems to be the mistake. However, I know completely fail to find where netcfg/get_domain09:17
jpicis used, debconf-get-selections does not show this key unless --installer is passed which makes it look into /var/log/installer/cdebconf.09:17
jpicDo you have any idea what leftover could still be on the system based on that? would the installer selections ever be used again ? ie. when configuring a package?09:18
crorafCan someone help me how to install old version of firefox. The version can be found here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/89.0b9/linux-x86_64/en-US/09:31
Woetcroraf: which issues are you running into?09:32
crorafI've extracted this .tar.bz2 and dont know what to do next09:32
croraflet me screenshot09:32
crorafhttps://pasteboard.co/WXfv3J9mdcYS.png Woet09:33
Woetdid you try running firefox or firefox-bin?09:34
crorafWoet great, it just works, by using firefox09:37
Woet:)09:37
crorafBut is this like the full installation?09:37
Woetpretty sure those are the files you'd usually find in your instlal dir, yes09:41
simernesI have a virtual machine that I ssh into, and for some reason recently I became unable to enter characters like "æøå" when I am logged into its terminal. I have another ubuntu vm that in theory should be identical, where I don't have the problem. Any way to troubleshoot?10:09
crorafWoet, just to say it works as expected. Ty.10:09
gurkisimernes: i suppose its not as identical as you thought it was. my approach would be to determine what exactly is set up differently :D10:18
gurki(random guess: some locale issues)10:18
matkorHi! What is distro way of saving ipvsadm  rules  so they are restored during boot in Ubuntu? TIA10:28
BinarySaviorhi, nvidia driver update broke my display, how can I revert to previous version?10:57
lotuspsychjeBinarySavior: sudp apt purge nvidia* to fallback to nouveau and then install another nvidia version after10:58
lotuspsychje*sudo10:58
lotuspsychjesee also:10:59
lotuspsychje!nomodeset10:59
ubottuSystems with certain graphics chipsets may not boot properly out of the box. "Temporarily Add a Kernel Boot Parameter for Testing" as discussed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters to add the "nomodeset" parameter there.10:59
lotuspsychjeif your card gets a black screen at boot10:59
BinarySaviorit's been working fine on 21.04 for a couple months now11:00
BinarySavioryesterday i did sudo apt upgrade and it had an error on nvidia11:00
lotuspsychjeBinarySavior: are you on xorg or wayland?11:02
BinarySaviori believe i'm on xorg11:02
BinarySavioralt+f2 brings up the command prompt11:02
lotuspsychjedevs are working on the 470 nvidia version for wayland i saw recently11:02
BinarySaviori just did another upgrade, it appears that 470 installed correctly this time11:04
BinarySaviorgonna reboot and see11:04
lotuspsychjeok good luck!11:04
BinarySaviorokay yep it's working now11:06
BinarySaviorweird i wonder what the difference between yesterday and today was11:06
lotuspsychjeBinarySavior: check your dpkg logs to see11:06
BinarySaviorit doesn't say there was an error, but it does say it removed linix-signatures-nvidia-x.xx.x11:11
BinarySaviorand then it left "half-configured" linux-objects-nvidia-470.xx.x11:11
wwwihello, I created a shared folder in Ubuntu 20 and I want to access it in Windows 1011:30
wwwibut when I click on the folder from Windows, I get a pop up that asks for my credentials, a username and a password11:31
wwwiwhat do I enter?11:31
thyriaenwwwi have you tried a username & password of your ubuntu machine ?11:32
wwwithyriaen, username of my ubuntu machine will be username@ubuntu-pc-name?11:55
thyriaendepends on how the windows interface will interpret it11:56
thyriaenit might add the @ itself11:56
thyriaenwhich i would assume11:56
wwwithyriaen, I tried username then password of my ubuntu pc with @ubuntupcname after username, but it doesn't work11:57
thyriaenwwwi, then i don't know, sorry11:57
wwwithyriaen, I also tried username and password without the ubuntu pc name, and it doesn't work11:58
wwwithyriaen, thanks for your effort11:58
wwwithyriaen, np11:58
BluesKajHi all12:12
wwwihi BluesKaj12:23
BluesKajhi wwwi12:23
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williamoI have a bunch of Ubuntu 20.04 hosts that no longer boot after updating to 5.4.0-81 kernel. booting stops around the end of kernel init, right before initrd takes over. it feels like devices are timing out13:59
williamoonly commonality I can find is that this only happens when there is a mix of disks that have been encrypted on the VM side14:00
williamosorry, encryption is handled by the host14:01
williamomachines still boot correctly if I force 5.4.0-80.14:03
williamo5.4.0-84 appears to be failing too14:03
lotuspsychjewilliamo: saw a few of these passby in our bugs announce; bug #194310314:07
ubottuBug 1943103 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel 5.4.0-84 Graphical Issues and Overheating" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194310314:07
lotuspsychjewilliamo: see if this is your issue please14:07
williamolotuspsychje, these are servers, most graphical intensive thing they are doing is a console14:11
williamoif I decrypt the disks, I can boot with -81 and -8414:12
williamobut the disks have data which require encryption, so that isn't a solution14:13
lotuspsychjeah perhaps a case for #ubuntu-server then williamo14:13
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constxdwhat do i do https://termbin.com/0pc2m14:43
bencc1can I count on /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt to always be available on ubuntu server?14:44
coz_constxd, which version of Ubuntu?14:45
constxd20.0414:45
coz_constxd, and you are upgrading with sudo apt upgrade?14:46
constxdyes14:46
coz_constxd, did you try    sudo apt upgrade --fix-broken14:46
constxdjust tried it now, doesn't work14:47
constxdsame output14:47
coz_hmmm14:47
ioriaconstxd, apt-cache policy libtss2-esys-3.0.2-0 | nc termbin.com 999914:51
Joelanyone aware of repos for 20.04 which support plasma 5.19 or greater?14:53
constxdioria: https://termbin.com/zwz514:53
ioriaconstxd, you said you are on 20.04 ... ?14:54
constxdi thought i was14:54
constxd21.04 oops14:55
ioriaconstxd, dpkg -l | grep libtss2 | nc termbin.com 999914:56
constxdioria: https://termbin.com/ql9j14:56
ioriaconstxd, the pkgs seems to be correctly installed14:57
constxdso what do i do?14:58
ioriaconstxd, apt -s full-upgrade  | nc termbin.com 999915:00
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constxdioria: https://termbin.com/o5zj15:01
ioriaconstxd, i think you need to upgrade your system15:02
constxddid i fuck something up15:03
ioriaconstxd, i don't know exacly ... why are you using those repos ? i mean mirrors.kernel.org... not sure are officials15:04
constxdi can't remember, i think it was to get gcc-11 before it was available from main repos or something15:04
ioriaconstxd,  apt-cache policy  libtss2-esys0    | nc termbin.com 999915:07
constxdioria: https://termbin.com/sy3615:08
ioriaconstxd,  cat /etc/issue  you can paste here15:09
simernesgurki: yeah LOL. Thanks I'll try15:09
constxdUbuntu 21.04 \n \l15:09
constxdioria:15:09
ioriaconstxd,  cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc trmbin.com 999915:10
tw-granddialHey, I've got Ubuntu-Server 20.04 running and I've uninstalled netplan.io in order to just use systemd-networkd, yet it's not obeying my configuration in /etc/systemd/networkd. I've enabled, started, and restarted the systemd-networkd service, is there something I missed?15:10
ioriaconstxd,  cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 999915:10
oerheksioria, +1, just update would do15:10
oerheks*full-upgrade15:10
ioriahe has a mix of repositories15:10
lotuspsychjeJoel: maybe the #kde or #kubuntu guys might know that115:10
constxdioria: https://termbin.com/yxmc15:11
ioriaconstxd,  you have a mix of repositories ... not good15:11
constxdis it salvageable15:11
simernesgurki: yeah, my locale LANG was blank for whatever reason, and everything else was just POSIX15:13
ioriaconstxd,  apt list --installed  | grep hirsute | nc termbin.com 999915:13
constxduh oh15:15
constxdhttps://termbin.com/jmrs215:15
BluesKajKubuntu 20.04 has plasma version 5.18 as default, dunno if 5.19 is available, perhaps in a ppa?15:16
ioriaconstxd,  apt-cache policy dpkg apt | nc termbin.com 999915:18
constxdioria: https://termbin.com/zt3g15:20
oerheksThere should be an original hirsute sourceslist stored somewhere,,15:21
ioriaoerheks, https://termbin.com/yxmc    (at bottom)15:21
oerheksioria, yes, seen that, weird15:22
ioriaconstxd,  your system is now an hybrid ... maybe you can use ppa-purge to fix it15:23
constxdlmao15:23
ioriaconstxd,  not sure is supported here anymore15:23
ioriabrb15:23
constxdis there any way to just replace all the hirsute stuff with official stuff15:23
oerheksMove the corrupted one to the safe place sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list ~/ and recreate it sudo touch /etc/apt/sources.list.15:24
oerheksstep 2; Open Software & Updates software-properties-gtk. This will open software-properties-gtk with no repository selected. ( universe and such are disabled, enable them again and voila )15:24
oerheksbut really, you were not on hirsute .. according to that list15:25
lotuspsychjetw-granddial: maybe more luck at #ubuntu-server with your question?15:28
constxdoerheks: ok and now should i do full-upgrade?15:29
pycuriousHow do i pass my private keys when I ssh to another username - I tried "sudo -E -s -u uname" - this does not pass the ssh-agent keys15:30
constxdseemed to work15:35
constxdthank you ioria and oerheks15:35
BarnabasDKpycurious, to a user on another machine?15:36
BarnabasDKssh-copy-id -i <key> <user>@<machine>15:37
pycuriousBarnabasDK: I'm on machine X -> I ssh to machine Y -> (I've ssh-agent forward my private keys to user ubuntu). Now I want to change user to user "db" but with the key set. So I was trying "sudo -E -s -u db" - but db does not get the private keys. The user ubuntu does get my private keys. If I just do "sudo -E -s" - root gets my private key.15:38
pycuriousBarnabasDK: That is precisely what I dont want to do , hence am looking for this solution.15:38
Joellotuspsychje will give it a shot15:41
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meihey, i think my grub ended on the wrong disk... how i can check that?17:23
alkisgmei, what's the output of sudo parted -l? If it's UEFI, you can just check if the files are there. If it's BIOS, you could use the boot-repair diagnostic script17:25
Dro_hello, how can I find lines in a file, that contains exactly two digits (wildcard), then one fixed letter... example : "05 C" , "02 C" , "11 C"17:26
alkisgA quick one would be: grep '[0-9][0-9][A-Z]' file17:28
meialkisg: part -l of what?17:28
meii get token not valid17:28
davegarathDro_, egrep "^.. C$" file17:28
alkisg(or [:letter:] or [A-Za-z], depending on what you need exactly)17:28
alkisgmei: not part. parted17:29
meiyeah sorry but still token not valid17:29
Dro_davegarath, .. is for two digits?17:29
alkisgsudo parted -l, L, not one17:29
davegarathDro_, . is for any character17:29
Dro_alkisg, thanks i'll try this17:29
Dro_alkisg, how ever the char is fixed "C"17:30
alkisgDro_: then grep '[0-9][0-9] C' file17:30
alkisgA single space there?17:30
Dro_alkisg, yes, i'll try that17:31
alkisgmei, or sudo lsblk --fs17:31
Dro_alkisg, yes it works!! thank you17:32
Dro_thank you davegarath as well ^^17:32
alkisgYou're welcome17:32
davegarathDro_, no problem17:33
meialkisg: i know the disks are parted. i just don't know where grub is installed. i even know where is /boot17:39
meiit's the mbr thing? i don't how to call that one. the thing that let the disk start grub17:39
alkisgmei: right, so if you pastebin this information, we'll know it too, and we'll be able to tell you if your vfat partition == uefi is in one disk only17:39
meiyeah, the uefi one is on the wrong disk...17:40
alkisgIf your disk is MBR/BIOS formatted, then you'd need to check the MBR, yes17:40
meii formatted it with ubuntu installer17:40
meii made /boot and / ext4 from a disk without pratition scheem17:40
alkisgAre you booted in uefi mode? Does the /sys/firmware/efi directory exist?17:40
alkisgThe procedure is the same in either bios or uefi mode17:41
meiit does17:41
meii think i'm on efi17:41
alkisgWe need this information, either ls /sys/firmware/efi, or sudo parted -l17:41
meithe thing is that if i try to boot the disk from boot menu on computer start, it doesn't boot17:41
alkisgWe cannot help without information17:41
rafishello, does anyone knows why when "ifconfig" , shows 2 wifi interfaces, wlan0, and wlo1 , of course is the same, this hapened few days ago. any ideas how to go back to my only wlo1 interface?17:42
meialkisg: https://pastebin.com/raw/c9fzdkTD17:43
alkisgmei: ok, you're booted in uefi mode. In uefi mode, the installer sees the existing uefi partition and reuses it17:43
alkisgYou wanted to create an additional uefi partition in a second disk?17:44
meiwhat's the difference? i wasn't aware of it. i just ignored that part17:44
meiand happened to be an uefi partiion on another disk17:44
alkisgExample. If disk 1 has windows and an uefi partition, and you install ubuntu in disk2, then the loader will go to the disk 1 uefi partition17:45
alkisgSo if you remove disk 1, it won't boot anymore17:45
alkisgThis is the usual thing that people want though; they wouldn't want to have to select "disk2" in order to boot17:45
meithat's exactly what happened. so i just removed the windows loader?17:48
meimy plan was the second situation, but didn't except to go into the uefi of theo ther disk without asking me17:48
meiin the ubuntu installer i had to choose the grub disk and i selected the new disk where ubuntu is17:49
meii basically have sda which is windows disk. and sdb which is a clean disk where i got now ubuntu... but i was planning to not compromise the other system17:50
alkisgIt's not compromised. UEFI is organized in files and directories. You just got an extra ubuntu directory in the UEFI partition. The Microsoft directory was not deleted.17:53
alkisgSee for yourself: sudo ls /boot/efi/*17:54
meimhm i see, but i'm not sure windows will like that... for updates... things...17:55
alkisgsudo ls /boot/efi/EFI17:56
meithat's why i was planning to be independent17:56
alkisgMillions of people dual boot with windows, it's not a problem17:56
alkisgUEFI has boot entries stored in "BIOS settings" (nvram), you may see them with: efibootmgr -v17:56
alkisgIt natively supports multiple boot options17:57
alkisgDual booting isn't putting any strain on it17:57
rafishello, does anyone knows why when "ifconfig" , it shows 2 wifi interfaces, wlan0, and wlo1 , of course they are the same, this hapened few days ago. any ideas how to delete one of those devices?17:57
meibut the boot menu i get at start, is that grub or just efi?17:57
alkisgrafis: can you pastebin the output of ifconfig?17:57
rafissure17:57
alkisgmei: it's grub. If you want the uefi boot menu, press F12 (or some other Fx key, it depends on the BIOS)17:58
alkisgmei: for example, if you press Del and go to UEFI/BIOS settings, and select "windows first" boot device, you won't even see grub at all17:58
meiyeah but that's where is not booting ubuntu... if i go into the f12 list and boot the ubuntu disk it say like "inser a boot disk and try again"17:58
rafishttps://pastebin.com/g0hajaTB17:59
meithat's when i realized i got grub on the wrong disk :')17:59
alkisgThat may be a wrong ubuntu entry. If you pastebin the output of this command, we'll know: sudo efibootmgr -v17:59
meioh wait, i didn't try to boot the ubuntu entry (which are 2) i tried to boot the disk in which there is ubuntu17:59
alkisgThat disk doesn't have an uefi partition, so it'll fail18:00
rafisalkisg: they are the same interface. wlo1 was my only one , until yesterday.18:00
rafisalkisg: i would like to delete wlan0, not just ifconfig wlan0 down18:01
meialkisg: the thing is.. probably every time windows will version update, will overwrite grub again... so...18:01
alkisgrafis: wlan0 has the same MAC but a different IP. What changed since yesterday? How are you setting your IP, e.g. via network-manager?18:01
meimaybe is better if i'm able to move grub into the right disk18:01
alkisgmei, no, in UEFI there's no overwriting stuff. That's in BIOS/MBR18:01
alkisgYou'll always be able to press F12 or Del and select the other OS18:02
alkisgLeave it as it is, it's the expected, usual thing, it's not a problem18:02
alkisgYou may of course change it, but THAT would be the strange thing18:02
meiwhat about grub? i see that uefi boot is fine though18:02
meiwell i suppose i will wait for the fall update and see what happens :')18:03
alkisgRun: sudo ls /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu. grub.efi goes there, while grub.cfg is in /boot18:03
alkisg(in the separate boot partition, in /boot/grub/grub.cfg)18:03
alkisgMicrosoft won't overwrite any of these files18:04
rafisalkisg: yes, im connected via networkmanager, i really dont remember, i installed few packages, but nothing to do with networking18:04
rafisalkisg: is it possible to delete wlan0 permanently?18:05
meiother quicker question: why the update app and the market app give me different updates?18:07
alkisgrafis: we'd first need to see what creates it; e.g. some kali monitoring tools create interface aliases for monitoring, but you said you didn't install anything related to networking, so I'm not sure where to look18:08
alkisgWait, maybe someone else will have an idea18:08
d3fnQuick question - what would the best RDP alternative be for ubuntu? VNC? or ssh -X forwarding?18:24
WaVPersonally I prefer VNC over SSH, but I rarely have the need for it tbh18:28
WaVWith strict key-only ssh authentication.18:29
d3fnThanks Ill fire up the tight vnc server18:36
segfaultfizzbuzzi have a bunch of heic files in a folder and want to see a preview of them in bulk so i can pick the image i want18:45
segfaultfizzbuzzi'm not finding a great way of doing this at the moment, any suggestions?18:45
Guest51hi, what's the easiest way to install ubuntu besides windows? i managed to install both ubuntu and windows and i can select between them using the bios boot menu but if i don't manually select it, it automatically boots windows :-(18:58
ezakimakafter updating to 21.04 iptables is not working, thus preventing docker.io from starting18:59
Guest51i would like to automatically boot ubuntu while having the option to switch to windows if i want to19:00
meiis it normal that i have backports enabled by default?19:00
meialso i have like non-free things enabled even in the ubuntu install i didn't select the option for extra 3rd part software19:01
meiso this ubuntu store use snap. but in the ubuntu repositories there are still apps. so based on what i would use that or apt-get?19:31
meias example now i'd like to get libreoffice... but i'm not sure what's the best place to get it19:32
Lantizia_Hi... what process is responsible for this very annoying pop up message... https://i.snipboard.io/5OlYF0.jpg19:58
Lantizia_And more importantly... how can I completely kill it **forever** from ever popping up ever again... especially on machines that run as a kiosk with a fullscreen app 100% of the time.19:58
Lantizia_Don't say disable checking for updates... I already did that - makes no difference :)19:58
TJ-it says on it "Software Update"  - so it's the notify from that process19:59
Lantizia_"Software Updater" is ready19:59
Lantizia_well that does secretly load on start-up and hide the background?19:59
TJ-!info update-notifier | Lantizia_20:00
ubottuLantizia_: update-notifier (3.192.40.3, hirsute): Daemon which notifies about package updates. In component main, is optional. Built by update-notifier. Size 55 kB / 283 kB20:00
meimhm but you can easy disale that. although is really handy...20:01
Lantizia_It's not in this case20:01
Lantizia_mei, what would disabling it entail?20:02
meii suppose it will popup if you apt-get update manually20:02
meibut i don't think it will check updates if you disable the check20:03
Lantizia_already did but it still does20:03
TJ-Lantizia_: actually, I don't think update-notifier is the one for that dialog20:04
meiwhat if you remove the notification permission from settings?20:04
meisettings - apps - software and updates - turn notification off20:05
Lantizia_https://i.snipboard.io/wzjI6k.jpg20:09
Lantizia_that's already done20:09
meinot there20:09
meiin the system settings20:09
meiyou can disable permissions for each app, and one common permission is notification20:10
Lantizia_What exactly is 'System Settings' :)20:10
meiubuntu settings? :D20:10
Lantizia_the is 'Settings' as a thing I can launch20:11
Lantizia_but not 'System Settings'20:11
meithe one you can get top right where you shutdown or logout20:11
Lantizia_that is 'Settings' :P20:12
TJ-Lantizia_: the secure may be to divert /etc/xdg/autostart/update-notifier.desktop20:12
TJ-Lantizia_: as in "dpkg-divert --divert /etc/xdg/autostart/update-notifier.desktop.diverted --rename /etc/xdg/autostart/update-notifier.desktop"20:14
TJ-Lantizia_: that'll ensure if the package gets an upgrade it won't reinstall that file (which could happen if you just removed it)20:15
Lantizia_TJ-, I've gone with the approach mei said - I'm likely to ditch Ubuntu on these 10 NUC's at some point anyway and put something a bit more stripped down later... I just needed a 'it'll do for now' fix :)20:23
Lantizia_mei, found it... did it for both the software updater and the software updates apps - both with very similar looking icons20:24
meican you convert a minimal ubuntu install to full one? is there some meta package or something?20:35
sarnoldmei: ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server, will kind of fulfil that role; it might not be exactly like doing the install from the desktop installer or the server installer, but it'll get all the packages anyway20:36
meiubuntu-desktop is already there. maybe it got installed with optional dependences off20:39
meiokay seems that ubuntu-desktop^ will do that20:43
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LlenrocHello all! Just upgraded a remote server from 16.04->18.04. Having issues with grub-pc requiring an interactive prompt at "Configuring grub-pc". I need some way to bypass this as I'm now stuck at "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem" - but if I do so, I just get caught back at the21:16
Llenroc"Configuring grub-pc" prompt. ANy ideas? Thanks!21:16
sarnoldLlenroc: put DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive before your commands21:18
LlenrocUploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/dfa48db96e04e16ebdc9d06a0931117e/grub-issue1.JPG21:28
Llenroc@Sarnold Results from attempt....21:28
sarnoldLlenroc: ew. maybe dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc ?21:29
Bashing-om!info grub-efi-amd64 focal21:31
ubottugrub-efi-amd64 (2.04-1ubuntu44.2, focal): GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (EFI-AMD64 version). In component main, is extra. Built by grub2-unsigned. Size 46 kB / 186 kB. (Only available for i386, kopensolaris-i386, any-amd64.)21:31
LlenrocCan't remove or reinstall it because it just complains about dpkg being interrupted21:34
Llenroc  /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: grub-pc is broken or not fully installed21:35
jhutchinsLlenroc: apt -f install?21:39
sarnoldLlenroc: argh :( I think you ought to file a bug on this, ubuntu-bug grub-pc -- but I'm not sure what else to suggest to make it move forward :(21:39
Llenroc@Sarnold Appreciate thr advice nonetheless, thank you21:39
Bashing-omLlenroc: ^^ What results ' sudo apt install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64 ' ?21:40
Llenroc@Bashing-om Throwing a -y in there, one sec...21:42
Llenroc@Bashing-om looks good though :D21:42
Bashing-omLlenroc: aybe check now with jhutchins' suggestion ' sudo apt -f install '. See that the package manager is in a happy state.21:44
Llenroc@Bashing-om Definitely some progress. Now stuck at the following (note: this is a remote server 500 miles away so I can't simply slect an option here...)21:46
LlenrocUploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/99a45c4b162c7ee93b63a659918e43aa/grub-issue2.JPG21:46
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Bashing-omLlenroc: were me I would choose option "1" - and fix any issues at a later time. Let us "assume" that the package manager knows what it is doing here.21:50
Llenroc@Bashing-om Gotcha. Just gotta figure how to pass that via cli as I can't just choose an option21:51
Bashing-omsarnold: ^ is the more experienced here :D21:51
sarnoldusually the DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive does the trick21:53
sarnoldbut I don't know for sure if it would work for *that* prompt21:53
LlenrocWell, it's at least a step in the right direction, and I sincerely appreciate that! Back to google-fu, I guess!21:54
rafishello, does anyone knows why when "ifconfig" , it shows 2 wifi interfaces, wlan0, and wlo1 , of course they are the same, this happened few days ago. any ideas how to delelte permanently one of those?22:39
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hypocritehi i wanna install ubuntu with manual partitioning but when it comes to grub and installing in /boot/efi mount point it  cannot proceed. the error is "grub-efi-amd64-signed failed installation /target/ Ubuntu". any idea?(i also check the forum but it didn't work:))23:23
windows10it work23:25
windows10dl pus++23:26
windows10avistaments23:26
windows10hunter homtower23:26
windows10tstststsfy23:26
d3fnI am trying to get an always on vpn connection with ubuntu. The VPN connection and Network Manager seem to not start properply after reboot. if I login and restart the NetworkManager service everything works fine though.23:26
d3fnany thoughts on what could be the issue?23:27
d3fni configured everything with `nm-connection-editor`23:27
genii-coreDoes apt-cache search  or apt search not report things in multiverse?23:30
sarnoldgenii-core: I think it should if you've got your apt sources configured correctly..23:33
genii-coresarnold: Actually, the package I was looking for turned out to be in universe... but it looks like packagenames with ++ might be the issue23:36
genii-coresarnold: eg: apt search libstdc++5   .... no result. But: apt search libstdc|grep ++5   ... libstdc++5/bionic,now 1:3.3.6-30 amd64 [installed]23:38
sarnoldgenii-core: oh that, probably the apt 'patterns' :(23:39
genii-coreIt's pretty annoying23:40
sarnoldgenii-core: I got sent onto a diversion of my own, for some reason "apt-cache show manpages-posix" doesn't show the usual Filename: entry on my system..23:40
sarnoldgenii-core: extremely23:40
sarnoldI wish that the patterns had been introduced with something like pattern:foo*bar* etc23:40
* genii-core sips and ponders23:44
genii-coresarnold: Well, at least apt policy seems to work23:45
genii-coresarnold: ..I also find it a bit amusing when I did the: apt search libstc|grep ++5  that it reports: "WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts."23:47
sarnoldgenii-core: oh, I just can't read! :) I've got my apt sources configured to load multiverse contents from ddebs.ubuntu.com, but not from my own local mirror. sigh :)23:49
sarnoldgenii-core: yeah :/ any time stdout isn't a terminal it reports that. kinda annoying but I get it..23:49

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