[00:12] <n00blet> Hi, ubuntu is not recognizing the ethernet cable I am using for internet
[00:12] <n00blet> wifi works fine
[00:13] <n00blet> the cable works fine when i boot into windows on the same hardware
[00:13] <n00blet> any idea why this is happening/how to fix it?
[00:16] <sarnold> n00blet: does replacing the cable make the nic work?
[00:17] <n00blet> Not sure what nic is but swapping the cable doesn't fix it
[00:18] <sarnold> nic == network interface card
[00:20] <sarnold> n00blet: is this a 'standard desktop' sort of system? if so, you're probably using network manager; look around that for some connection information or edit connection things, and see if your ethernet card is enabled, if it's allowed to be used, if it has correct settings, etc
[00:21] <Swift110-mobile> sup folks
[00:27] <Swift110-mobile> sup Mathisen
[00:27] <Swift110-mobile> sup matsaman
[00:29] <matsaman> howdy
[00:35] <n00blet> sarnold i've poked around and lshw shows the ethernet status is UNCLAIMED
[00:36] <sarnold> n00blet: oh, wow, I think that means there's no driver loaded for it. I wonder if it's supported by linux at all
[00:43] <n00blet> Google is suggesting that I will need to upgrade my kernel for driver support
[00:44] <n00blet> Going to give that a shot. ty for your help
[00:44] <sarnold> oh that's promising; it's not always good news
[00:44] <sarnold> if you're on an LTS release, selecting the 'hwe' kernels may do the trick
[00:45] <sarnold> those are newer than the 'release' kernel, they're offered specifically for more hardware support :)
[00:46] <n00blet> Oh wow, they're already up to 5.14, i'm on 5.8
[00:53] <oerheks> !hwe
[01:28] <Macer> is there a way to slow down 2 finger scrolling on a synaptic trackpad?
[01:28] <Macer> i'm using wayland
[01:29] <sarnold> Macer: I can't promise there is, but if there is I expect you can get there using the xinput tool; try xinput list to get a list of devices..
[01:30] <sarnold> Macer: then xinput list-props "device name here"  to get a list of properties..
[01:30] <sarnold> Macer: I use these lines to set some settings on my touchpad:
[01:30] <sarnold> xinput set-prop "Synaptics TM3289-021" "libinput Accel Speed" 1
[01:30] <sarnold> xinput set-prop "Synaptics TM3289-021" "libinput Tapping Enabled" 1
[01:35] <Macer> hm
[01:35] <Macer>     ↳ Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad	id=10	[slave  keyboard (3)]
[01:35] <Macer> doesn't seem like it's using any type of synaptic driver
[01:36] <Macer> not sure if wayland would work with xinput
[01:36] <sarnold> hmm that's possible
[01:36] <sarnold> I figured it was a way to configure libinput, but don't know for sure that it'd work for configuring libunput in wayland
[02:03] <Macer> sarnold: ah ok. it does look like xinput works
[02:03] <Macer> so there is that
[02:03] <Macer> kind of weird. i honestly do not understand wayland vs xorg
[02:03] <sarnold> Macer: yay :)
[02:03] <Macer> is wayland something different or is it something that just disposed of some of the unnecessary xorg things?
[02:04] <sarnold> Macer: were you able to find any properties for your touchpad thing that works?
[02:04] <Macer> i don't really understand a decent way to make this permanent now
[02:04] <Macer> yes
[02:04] <sarnold> double yay :)
[02:04] <Macer> xinput --set-prop 11 'Synaptics Scrolling Distance' 700 700
[02:04] <Macer> that worked
[02:04] <sarnold> re: permanent, I'm not sure :( what compositor are you using? it probably has an 'autorun' feature of some sort
[02:04] <Macer> it isn't shooting like 30 pages with 1" of trackpad haha
[02:04] <sarnold> sweet
[02:04] <Macer> i'm using whatever ubuntu uses nowadays
[02:07] <onelegend> sarnold: yoooo
[02:07] <sarnold> hey onelegend
[02:07] <sarnold> Macer: I'm finding a lot of bad advice, but the one I've liked so far was to use systemd user service files
[02:07] <sarnold> Macer: systemd user service files doesn't feel right either, but the others so far look worse :)
[02:08] <Macer> well i mean usually this would be some sort of xinitrc thing
[02:10] <sarnold> yeah, I stuffed my lines in ~/.xsessionrc :) piece of cake... dunno wayland. gnome's not big on easy things, they usually have .desktop files and autorun/ directories and so on
[02:11] <Macer> yah. i'm trying to figure out where to put it. at least i know the command that fixes it
[02:11] <Macer> it was driving me insane heh
[02:12] <bobdobbs> Hi all. I'm looking for a tool that will let me send text files to a pastebin-like service. I've got pastebinit installed, but can't get it to work.
[02:12] <bobdobbs> I can't seem to find a similar tool in the default repos. But I might have missed one (or all of them)
[02:12] <sarnold> bobdobbs: sadly the recent changes to the ubuntu pastebin site have made it far less useful
[02:13] <sarnold> bobdobbs: pastebinit can send to other sites, and I think a few of them still work with it, but it's not great
[02:13] <sarnold> bobdobbs: I've switched to using | nc termbin.com 9999    -- probably I should make a shell alias for it but I haven't done that yet
[02:13] <bobdobbs> sarnold: I've been trying and failing to get pastebinit to work with other sites, I'm afriad
[02:13] <bobdobbs> netcat?
[02:13] <sarnold> bobdobbs: dang ;(
[02:13] <sarnold> yeah
[02:13] <sarnold> netcat's a fantastic little thing
[02:13] <bobdobbs> huh. neat tricj
[02:14] <bobdobbs> so what is a typical command? cat the file and output it to nc?
[02:14] <bobdobbs> pipe it, I mean
[02:15] <bobdobbs> sarnold: hey! that works!
[02:15] <bobdobbs> sarnold: thanks!
[02:15] <oerheks> cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999
[02:15] <sarnold> bobdobbs: you can also do standard shell things like nc termbin.com 9999 < /tmp/whatever   to read the file that way
[02:53] <nikolam> I am really dissatisfied how Linux in general and Ubuntu handles missing non-system volumes present on /etc/fstab on boot.
[02:54] <nikolam> I changed non-system drive and whole boot proces halted for 2X 3 minutes and never normally boots, just hangs there , if there is no particular volume od a drive available on boot. It is really ridiculous how bad it looks like and how lousy impression that leaves..
[02:55] <nikolam> And it never get back to normal, until I realized I need to edit /and comment out some volumes, before I exchange drives.. and BEFORE I reboot..
[03:08] <oerheks> missing non-system volumes present on /etc/fstab on boot... explain?
[03:11] <sarnold> nikolam: maybe you want to add "nofail do not report errors for this device if it does not exist." to your devices that you'll change -- see the fstab(5) manpage for more options
[04:26] <n00blet> I switched to a newer kernel and my wired connection works now. Thanks to whoever was helping me earlier (using webchat so no history lol)
[04:27] <oerheks> have fun, n00blet
[05:08] <Swift110-mobile> hey oerheks
[05:41] <Erroneous> what the command to instal json on ubuntu root
[05:43] <alkisg> Erroneous: json is a file format, not a program. What do you mean?
[05:44] <Erroneous> so how can i add them on
[05:45] <Erroneous> because my eggdrop need json and http
[05:45] <Erroneous> json and http not found on my shell
[05:48] <Mathisen> Erroneous, what you need is to load http.tcl before any plugin that needs it
[05:48] <Erroneous> ah so this is on the eggdrop side? not root?
[05:49] <Mathisen> yep
[05:49] <Erroneous> i need both http and json
[05:49] <Erroneous> any idea how to run it bro. cant find in goodle
[05:49] <Mathisen> and you should take a look at limnoria bot instead of an eggdrop. a more modern version for a irc bot and python based with same plugins you find for your outaded eggdrop
[05:50] <Mathisen> read the docs
[05:54] <Erroneous> Mathisen do you mean there is new bot called limnoria ?
[05:54] <Erroneous> this is the latest?
[05:57] <Mathisen> yes there is a bot called limnoria > https://github.com/ProgVal/Limnoria
[05:58] <Erroneous> i am noob from eggdrop
[05:58] <Erroneous> so i will start using limnoria is it easiest thatn eggies?
[05:58] <Mathisen> yes
[05:59] <Erroneous> https://limnoria.net/ <<-there wbsite dont even work bro...
[06:04] <alkisg> Erroneous: See https://github.com/ProgVal/Limnoria; you may also join #limnoria, their irc channel
[06:04] <alkisg> They may have temporary hosting issues
[06:04] <alkisg> It's still actively maintained, unlike eggdrop
[06:06] <Erroneous> ok good
[06:06] <Erroneous> i need to see website so i can read manual instructions
[06:07] <Erroneous> alkisg do you have bot in lmnoria?
[06:07] <alkisg> Erroneous: yes, in the #ltsp channel, it's called ltspbot
[07:14] <omega_doom> After recent update left ctrl on my usb keyboard stopped working. What can i do to fix it?
[07:15] <omega_doom> right ctrl is working and laptop keys are working fine.
[07:37] <ducasse> Erroneous: you can also find the docs here - https://limnoria-doc.readthedocs.io/_/downloads/en/latest/pdf/
[09:17] <jpic> hi all, i'm investigating a server which seems to sometimes change its FQDN to "hostname.unassigned-domain" instead of its right FQDN. I have found in /var/log/installer/cdebconf/questions.dat that Name: netcfg/get_domain got Value: unassigned-domain, instead of the right value they have on their other servers, so that seems to be the mistake. However, I know completely fail to find where netcfg/get_domain
[09:17] <jpic> is used, debconf-get-selections does not show this key unless --installer is passed which makes it look into /var/log/installer/cdebconf.
[09:18] <jpic> Do you have any idea what leftover could still be on the system based on that? would the installer selections ever be used again ? ie. when configuring a package?
[09:31] <croraf> Can someone help me how to install old version of firefox. The version can be found here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/89.0b9/linux-x86_64/en-US/
[09:32] <Woet> croraf: which issues are you running into?
[09:32] <croraf> I've extracted this .tar.bz2 and dont know what to do next
[09:32] <croraf> let me screenshot
[09:33] <croraf> https://pasteboard.co/WXfv3J9mdcYS.png Woet
[09:34] <Woet> did you try running firefox or firefox-bin?
[09:37] <croraf> Woet great, it just works, by using firefox
[09:37] <Woet> :)
[09:37] <croraf> But is this like the full installation?
[09:41] <Woet> pretty sure those are the files you'd usually find in your instlal dir, yes
[10:09] <simernes> I have a virtual machine that I ssh into, and for some reason recently I became unable to enter characters like "æøå" when I am logged into its terminal. I have another ubuntu vm that in theory should be identical, where I don't have the problem. Any way to troubleshoot?
[10:09] <croraf> Woet, just to say it works as expected. Ty.
[10:18] <gurki> simernes: i suppose its not as identical as you thought it was. my approach would be to determine what exactly is set up differently :D
[10:18] <gurki> (random guess: some locale issues)
[10:28] <matkor> Hi! What is distro way of saving ipvsadm  rules  so they are restored during boot in Ubuntu? TIA
[10:57] <BinarySavior> hi, nvidia driver update broke my display, how can I revert to previous version?
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> BinarySavior: sudp apt purge nvidia* to fallback to nouveau and then install another nvidia version after
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> *sudo
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> see also:
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> if your card gets a black screen at boot
[11:00] <BinarySavior> it's been working fine on 21.04 for a couple months now
[11:00] <BinarySavior> yesterday i did sudo apt upgrade and it had an error on nvidia
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> BinarySavior: are you on xorg or wayland?
[11:02] <BinarySavior> i believe i'm on xorg
[11:02] <BinarySavior> alt+f2 brings up the command prompt
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> devs are working on the 470 nvidia version for wayland i saw recently
[11:04] <BinarySavior> i just did another upgrade, it appears that 470 installed correctly this time
[11:04] <BinarySavior> gonna reboot and see
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> ok good luck!
[11:06] <BinarySavior> okay yep it's working now
[11:06] <BinarySavior> weird i wonder what the difference between yesterday and today was
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> BinarySavior: check your dpkg logs to see
[11:11] <BinarySavior> it doesn't say there was an error, but it does say it removed linix-signatures-nvidia-x.xx.x
[11:11] <BinarySavior> and then it left "half-configured" linux-objects-nvidia-470.xx.x
[11:30] <wwwi> hello, I created a shared folder in Ubuntu 20 and I want to access it in Windows 10
[11:31] <wwwi> but when I click on the folder from Windows, I get a pop up that asks for my credentials, a username and a password
[11:31] <wwwi> what do I enter?
[11:32] <thyriaen> wwwi have you tried a username & password of your ubuntu machine ?
[11:55] <wwwi> thyriaen, username of my ubuntu machine will be username@ubuntu-pc-name?
[11:56] <thyriaen> depends on how the windows interface will interpret it
[11:56] <thyriaen> it might add the @ itself
[11:56] <thyriaen> which i would assume
[11:57] <wwwi> thyriaen, I tried username then password of my ubuntu pc with @ubuntupcname after username, but it doesn't work
[11:57] <thyriaen> wwwi, then i don't know, sorry
[11:58] <wwwi> thyriaen, I also tried username and password without the ubuntu pc name, and it doesn't work
[11:58] <wwwi> thyriaen, thanks for your effort
[11:58] <wwwi> thyriaen, np
[12:12] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:23] <wwwi> hi BluesKaj
[12:23] <BluesKaj> hi wwwi
[13:59] <williamo> I have a bunch of Ubuntu 20.04 hosts that no longer boot after updating to 5.4.0-81 kernel. booting stops around the end of kernel init, right before initrd takes over. it feels like devices are timing out
[14:00] <williamo> only commonality I can find is that this only happens when there is a mix of disks that have been encrypted on the VM side
[14:01] <williamo> sorry, encryption is handled by the host
[14:03] <williamo> machines still boot correctly if I force 5.4.0-80.
[14:03] <williamo> 5.4.0-84 appears to be failing too
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> williamo: saw a few of these passby in our bugs announce; bug #1943103
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> williamo: see if this is your issue please
[14:11] <williamo> lotuspsychje, these are servers, most graphical intensive thing they are doing is a console
[14:12] <williamo> if I decrypt the disks, I can boot with -81 and -84
[14:13] <williamo> but the disks have data which require encryption, so that isn't a solution
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> ah perhaps a case for #ubuntu-server then williamo
[14:43] <constxd> what do i do https://termbin.com/0pc2m
[14:44] <bencc1> can I count on /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt to always be available on ubuntu server?
[14:45] <coz_> constxd, which version of Ubuntu?
[14:45] <constxd> 20.04
[14:46] <coz_> constxd, and you are upgrading with sudo apt upgrade?
[14:46] <constxd> yes
[14:46] <coz_> constxd, did you try    sudo apt upgrade --fix-broken
[14:47] <constxd> just tried it now, doesn't work
[14:47] <constxd> same output
[14:47] <coz_> hmmm
[14:51] <ioria> constxd, apt-cache policy libtss2-esys-3.0.2-0 | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:53] <Joel> anyone aware of repos for 20.04 which support plasma 5.19 or greater?
[14:53] <constxd> ioria: https://termbin.com/zwz5
[14:54] <ioria> constxd, you said you are on 20.04 ... ?
[14:54] <constxd> i thought i was
[14:55] <constxd> 21.04 oops
[14:56] <ioria> constxd, dpkg -l | grep libtss2 | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:56] <constxd> ioria: https://termbin.com/ql9j
[14:57] <ioria> constxd, the pkgs seems to be correctly installed
[14:58] <constxd> so what do i do?
[15:00] <ioria> constxd, apt -s full-upgrade  | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:01] <constxd> ioria: https://termbin.com/o5zj
[15:02] <ioria> constxd, i think you need to upgrade your system
[15:03] <constxd> did i fuck something up
[15:04] <ioria> constxd, i don't know exacly ... why are you using those repos ? i mean mirrors.kernel.org... not sure are officials
[15:04] <constxd> i can't remember, i think it was to get gcc-11 before it was available from main repos or something
[15:07] <ioria> constxd,  apt-cache policy  libtss2-esys0    | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:08] <constxd> ioria: https://termbin.com/sy36
[15:09] <ioria> constxd,  cat /etc/issue  you can paste here
[15:09] <simernes> gurki: yeah LOL. Thanks I'll try
[15:09] <constxd> Ubuntu 21.04 \n \l
[15:09] <constxd> ioria:
[15:10] <ioria> constxd,  cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc trmbin.com 9999
[15:10] <tw-granddial> Hey, I've got Ubuntu-Server 20.04 running and I've uninstalled netplan.io in order to just use systemd-networkd, yet it's not obeying my configuration in /etc/systemd/networkd. I've enabled, started, and restarted the systemd-networkd service, is there something I missed?
[15:10] <ioria> constxd,  cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:10] <oerheks> ioria, +1, just update would do
[15:10] <oerheks> *full-upgrade
[15:10] <ioria> he has a mix of repositories
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> Joel: maybe the #kde or #kubuntu guys might know that1
[15:11] <constxd> ioria: https://termbin.com/yxmc
[15:11] <ioria> constxd,  you have a mix of repositories ... not good
[15:11] <constxd> is it salvageable
[15:13] <simernes> gurki: yeah, my locale LANG was blank for whatever reason, and everything else was just POSIX
[15:13] <ioria> constxd,  apt list --installed  | grep hirsute | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:15] <constxd> uh oh
[15:15] <constxd> https://termbin.com/jmrs2
[15:16] <BluesKaj> Kubuntu 20.04 has plasma version 5.18 as default, dunno if 5.19 is available, perhaps in a ppa?
[15:18] <ioria> constxd,  apt-cache policy dpkg apt | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:20] <constxd> ioria: https://termbin.com/zt3g
[15:21] <oerheks> There should be an original hirsute sourceslist stored somewhere,,
[15:21] <ioria> oerheks, https://termbin.com/yxmc    (at bottom)
[15:22] <oerheks> ioria, yes, seen that, weird
[15:23] <ioria> constxd,  your system is now an hybrid ... maybe you can use ppa-purge to fix it
[15:23] <constxd> lmao
[15:23] <ioria> constxd,  not sure is supported here anymore
[15:23] <ioria> brb
[15:23] <constxd> is there any way to just replace all the hirsute stuff with official stuff
[15:24] <oerheks> Move the corrupted one to the safe place sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list ~/ and recreate it sudo touch /etc/apt/sources.list.
[15:24] <oerheks> step 2; Open Software & Updates software-properties-gtk. This will open software-properties-gtk with no repository selected. ( universe and such are disabled, enable them again and voila )
[15:25] <oerheks> but really, you were not on hirsute .. according to that list
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> tw-granddial: maybe more luck at #ubuntu-server with your question?
[15:29] <constxd> oerheks: ok and now should i do full-upgrade?
[15:30] <pycurious> How do i pass my private keys when I ssh to another username - I tried "sudo -E -s -u uname" - this does not pass the ssh-agent keys
[15:35] <constxd> seemed to work
[15:35] <constxd> thank you ioria and oerheks
[15:36] <BarnabasDK> pycurious, to a user on another machine?
[15:37] <BarnabasDK> ssh-copy-id -i <key> <user>@<machine>
[15:38] <pycurious> BarnabasDK: I'm on machine X -> I ssh to machine Y -> (I've ssh-agent forward my private keys to user ubuntu). Now I want to change user to user "db" but with the key set. So I was trying "sudo -E -s -u db" - but db does not get the private keys. The user ubuntu does get my private keys. If I just do "sudo -E -s" - root gets my private key.
[15:38] <pycurious> BarnabasDK: That is precisely what I dont want to do , hence am looking for this solution.
[15:41] <Joel> lotuspsychje will give it a shot
[17:23] <mei> hey, i think my grub ended on the wrong disk... how i can check that?
[17:25] <alkisg> mei, what's the output of sudo parted -l? If it's UEFI, you can just check if the files are there. If it's BIOS, you could use the boot-repair diagnostic script
[17:26] <Dro_> hello, how can I find lines in a file, that contains exactly two digits (wildcard), then one fixed letter... example : "05 C" , "02 C" , "11 C"
[17:28] <alkisg> A quick one would be: grep '[0-9][0-9][A-Z]' file
[17:28] <mei> alkisg: part -l of what?
[17:28] <mei> i get token not valid
[17:28] <davegarath> Dro_, egrep "^.. C$" file
[17:28] <alkisg> (or [:letter:] or [A-Za-z], depending on what you need exactly)
[17:29] <alkisg> mei: not part. parted
[17:29] <mei> yeah sorry but still token not valid
[17:29] <Dro_> davegarath, .. is for two digits?
[17:29] <alkisg> sudo parted -l, L, not one
[17:29] <davegarath> Dro_, . is for any character
[17:29] <Dro_> alkisg, thanks i'll try this
[17:30] <Dro_> alkisg, how ever the char is fixed "C"
[17:30] <alkisg> Dro_: then grep '[0-9][0-9] C' file
[17:30] <alkisg> A single space there?
[17:31] <Dro_> alkisg, yes, i'll try that
[17:31] <alkisg> mei, or sudo lsblk --fs
[17:32] <Dro_> alkisg, yes it works!! thank you
[17:32] <Dro_> thank you davegarath as well ^^
[17:32] <alkisg> You're welcome
[17:33] <davegarath> Dro_, no problem
[17:39] <mei> alkisg: i know the disks are parted. i just don't know where grub is installed. i even know where is /boot
[17:39] <mei> it's the mbr thing? i don't how to call that one. the thing that let the disk start grub
[17:39] <alkisg> mei: right, so if you pastebin this information, we'll know it too, and we'll be able to tell you if your vfat partition == uefi is in one disk only
[17:40] <mei> yeah, the uefi one is on the wrong disk...
[17:40] <alkisg> If your disk is MBR/BIOS formatted, then you'd need to check the MBR, yes
[17:40] <mei> i formatted it with ubuntu installer
[17:40] <mei> i made /boot and / ext4 from a disk without pratition scheem
[17:40] <alkisg> Are you booted in uefi mode? Does the /sys/firmware/efi directory exist?
[17:41] <alkisg> The procedure is the same in either bios or uefi mode
[17:41] <mei> it does
[17:41] <mei> i think i'm on efi
[17:41] <alkisg> We need this information, either ls /sys/firmware/efi, or sudo parted -l
[17:41] <mei> the thing is that if i try to boot the disk from boot menu on computer start, it doesn't boot
[17:41] <alkisg> We cannot help without information
[17:42] <rafis> hello, does anyone knows why when "ifconfig" , shows 2 wifi interfaces, wlan0, and wlo1 , of course is the same, this hapened few days ago. any ideas how to go back to my only wlo1 interface?
[17:43] <mei> alkisg: https://pastebin.com/raw/c9fzdkTD
[17:43] <alkisg> mei: ok, you're booted in uefi mode. In uefi mode, the installer sees the existing uefi partition and reuses it
[17:44] <alkisg> You wanted to create an additional uefi partition in a second disk?
[17:44] <mei> what's the difference? i wasn't aware of it. i just ignored that part
[17:44] <mei> and happened to be an uefi partiion on another disk
[17:45] <alkisg> Example. If disk 1 has windows and an uefi partition, and you install ubuntu in disk2, then the loader will go to the disk 1 uefi partition
[17:45] <alkisg> So if you remove disk 1, it won't boot anymore
[17:45] <alkisg> This is the usual thing that people want though; they wouldn't want to have to select "disk2" in order to boot
[17:48] <mei> that's exactly what happened. so i just removed the windows loader?
[17:48] <mei> my plan was the second situation, but didn't except to go into the uefi of theo ther disk without asking me
[17:49] <mei> in the ubuntu installer i had to choose the grub disk and i selected the new disk where ubuntu is
[17:50] <mei> i basically have sda which is windows disk. and sdb which is a clean disk where i got now ubuntu... but i was planning to not compromise the other system
[17:53] <alkisg> It's not compromised. UEFI is organized in files and directories. You just got an extra ubuntu directory in the UEFI partition. The Microsoft directory was not deleted.
[17:54] <alkisg> See for yourself: sudo ls /boot/efi/*
[17:55] <mei> mhm i see, but i'm not sure windows will like that... for updates... things...
[17:56] <alkisg> sudo ls /boot/efi/EFI
[17:56] <mei> that's why i was planning to be independent
[17:56] <alkisg> Millions of people dual boot with windows, it's not a problem
[17:56] <alkisg> UEFI has boot entries stored in "BIOS settings" (nvram), you may see them with: efibootmgr -v
[17:57] <alkisg> It natively supports multiple boot options
[17:57] <alkisg> Dual booting isn't putting any strain on it
[17:57] <rafis> hello, does anyone knows why when "ifconfig" , it shows 2 wifi interfaces, wlan0, and wlo1 , of course they are the same, this hapened few days ago. any ideas how to delete one of those devices?
[17:57] <mei> but the boot menu i get at start, is that grub or just efi?
[17:57] <alkisg> rafis: can you pastebin the output of ifconfig?
[17:57] <rafis> sure
[17:58] <alkisg> mei: it's grub. If you want the uefi boot menu, press F12 (or some other Fx key, it depends on the BIOS)
[17:58] <alkisg> mei: for example, if you press Del and go to UEFI/BIOS settings, and select "windows first" boot device, you won't even see grub at all
[17:58] <mei> yeah but that's where is not booting ubuntu... if i go into the f12 list and boot the ubuntu disk it say like "inser a boot disk and try again"
[17:59] <rafis> https://pastebin.com/g0hajaTB
[17:59] <mei> that's when i realized i got grub on the wrong disk :')
[17:59] <alkisg> That may be a wrong ubuntu entry. If you pastebin the output of this command, we'll know: sudo efibootmgr -v
[17:59] <mei> oh wait, i didn't try to boot the ubuntu entry (which are 2) i tried to boot the disk in which there is ubuntu
[18:00] <alkisg> That disk doesn't have an uefi partition, so it'll fail
[18:00] <rafis> alkisg: they are the same interface. wlo1 was my only one , until yesterday.
[18:01] <rafis> alkisg: i would like to delete wlan0, not just ifconfig wlan0 down
[18:01] <mei> alkisg: the thing is.. probably every time windows will version update, will overwrite grub again... so...
[18:01] <alkisg> rafis: wlan0 has the same MAC but a different IP. What changed since yesterday? How are you setting your IP, e.g. via network-manager?
[18:01] <mei> maybe is better if i'm able to move grub into the right disk
[18:01] <alkisg> mei, no, in UEFI there's no overwriting stuff. That's in BIOS/MBR
[18:02] <alkisg> You'll always be able to press F12 or Del and select the other OS
[18:02] <alkisg> Leave it as it is, it's the expected, usual thing, it's not a problem
[18:02] <alkisg> You may of course change it, but THAT would be the strange thing
[18:02] <mei> what about grub? i see that uefi boot is fine though
[18:03] <mei> well i suppose i will wait for the fall update and see what happens :')
[18:03] <alkisg> Run: sudo ls /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu. grub.efi goes there, while grub.cfg is in /boot
[18:03] <alkisg> (in the separate boot partition, in /boot/grub/grub.cfg)
[18:04] <alkisg> Microsoft won't overwrite any of these files
[18:04] <rafis> alkisg: yes, im connected via networkmanager, i really dont remember, i installed few packages, but nothing to do with networking
[18:05] <rafis> alkisg: is it possible to delete wlan0 permanently?
[18:07] <mei> other quicker question: why the update app and the market app give me different updates?
[18:08] <alkisg> rafis: we'd first need to see what creates it; e.g. some kali monitoring tools create interface aliases for monitoring, but you said you didn't install anything related to networking, so I'm not sure where to look
[18:08] <alkisg> Wait, maybe someone else will have an idea
[18:24] <d3fn> Quick question - what would the best RDP alternative be for ubuntu? VNC? or ssh -X forwarding?
[18:28] <WaV> Personally I prefer VNC over SSH, but I rarely have the need for it tbh
[18:29] <WaV> With strict key-only ssh authentication.
[18:36] <d3fn> Thanks Ill fire up the tight vnc server
[18:45] <segfaultfizzbuzz> i have a bunch of heic files in a folder and want to see a preview of them in bulk so i can pick the image i want
[18:45] <segfaultfizzbuzz> i'm not finding a great way of doing this at the moment, any suggestions?
[18:58] <Guest51> hi, what's the easiest way to install ubuntu besides windows? i managed to install both ubuntu and windows and i can select between them using the bios boot menu but if i don't manually select it, it automatically boots windows :-(
[18:59] <ezakimak> after updating to 21.04 iptables is not working, thus preventing docker.io from starting
[19:00] <Guest51> i would like to automatically boot ubuntu while having the option to switch to windows if i want to
[19:00] <mei> is it normal that i have backports enabled by default?
[19:01] <mei> also i have like non-free things enabled even in the ubuntu install i didn't select the option for extra 3rd part software
[19:31] <mei> so this ubuntu store use snap. but in the ubuntu repositories there are still apps. so based on what i would use that or apt-get?
[19:32] <mei> as example now i'd like to get libreoffice... but i'm not sure what's the best place to get it
[19:58] <Lantizia_> Hi... what process is responsible for this very annoying pop up message... https://i.snipboard.io/5OlYF0.jpg
[19:58] <Lantizia_> And more importantly... how can I completely kill it **forever** from ever popping up ever again... especially on machines that run as a kiosk with a fullscreen app 100% of the time.
[19:58] <Lantizia_> Don't say disable checking for updates... I already did that - makes no difference :)
[19:59] <TJ-> it says on it "Software Update"  - so it's the notify from that process
[19:59] <Lantizia_> "Software Updater" is ready
[19:59] <Lantizia_> well that does secretly load on start-up and hide the background?
[20:00] <TJ-> !info update-notifier | Lantizia_
[20:01] <mei> mhm but you can easy disale that. although is really handy...
[20:01] <Lantizia_> It's not in this case
[20:02] <Lantizia_> mei, what would disabling it entail?
[20:02] <mei> i suppose it will popup if you apt-get update manually
[20:03] <mei> but i don't think it will check updates if you disable the check
[20:03] <Lantizia_> already did but it still does
[20:04] <TJ-> Lantizia_: actually, I don't think update-notifier is the one for that dialog
[20:04] <mei> what if you remove the notification permission from settings?
[20:05] <mei> settings - apps - software and updates - turn notification off
[20:09] <Lantizia_> https://i.snipboard.io/wzjI6k.jpg
[20:09] <Lantizia_> that's already done
[20:09] <mei> not there
[20:09] <mei> in the system settings
[20:10] <mei> you can disable permissions for each app, and one common permission is notification
[20:10] <Lantizia_> What exactly is 'System Settings' :)
[20:10] <mei> ubuntu settings? :D
[20:11] <Lantizia_> the is 'Settings' as a thing I can launch
[20:11] <Lantizia_> but not 'System Settings'
[20:11] <mei> the one you can get top right where you shutdown or logout
[20:12] <Lantizia_> that is 'Settings' :P
[20:12] <TJ-> Lantizia_: the secure may be to divert /etc/xdg/autostart/update-notifier.desktop
[20:14] <TJ-> Lantizia_: as in "dpkg-divert --divert /etc/xdg/autostart/update-notifier.desktop.diverted --rename /etc/xdg/autostart/update-notifier.desktop"
[20:15] <TJ-> Lantizia_: that'll ensure if the package gets an upgrade it won't reinstall that file (which could happen if you just removed it)
[20:23] <Lantizia_> TJ-, I've gone with the approach mei said - I'm likely to ditch Ubuntu on these 10 NUC's at some point anyway and put something a bit more stripped down later... I just needed a 'it'll do for now' fix :)
[20:24] <Lantizia_> mei, found it... did it for both the software updater and the software updates apps - both with very similar looking icons
[20:35] <mei> can you convert a minimal ubuntu install to full one? is there some meta package or something?
[20:36] <sarnold> mei: ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server, will kind of fulfil that role; it might not be exactly like doing the install from the desktop installer or the server installer, but it'll get all the packages anyway
[20:39] <mei> ubuntu-desktop is already there. maybe it got installed with optional dependences off
[20:43] <mei> okay seems that ubuntu-desktop^ will do that
[21:16] <Llenroc> Hello all! Just upgraded a remote server from 16.04->18.04. Having issues with grub-pc requiring an interactive prompt at "Configuring grub-pc". I need some way to bypass this as I'm now stuck at "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem" - but if I do so, I just get caught back at the
[21:16] <Llenroc> "Configuring grub-pc" prompt. ANy ideas? Thanks!
[21:18] <sarnold> Llenroc: put DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive before your commands
[21:28] <Llenroc> Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/dfa48db96e04e16ebdc9d06a0931117e/grub-issue1.JPG
[21:28] <Llenroc> @Sarnold Results from attempt....
[21:29] <sarnold> Llenroc: ew. maybe dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc ?
[21:31] <Bashing-om> !info grub-efi-amd64 focal
[21:34] <Llenroc> Can't remove or reinstall it because it just complains about dpkg being interrupted
[21:35] <Llenroc>   /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: grub-pc is broken or not fully installed
[21:39] <jhutchins> Llenroc: apt -f install?
[21:39] <sarnold> Llenroc: argh :( I think you ought to file a bug on this, ubuntu-bug grub-pc -- but I'm not sure what else to suggest to make it move forward :(
[21:39] <Llenroc> @Sarnold Appreciate thr advice nonetheless, thank you
[21:40] <Bashing-om> Llenroc: ^^ What results ' sudo apt install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64 ' ?
[21:42] <Llenroc> @Bashing-om Throwing a -y in there, one sec...
[21:42] <Llenroc> @Bashing-om looks good though :D
[21:44] <Bashing-om> Llenroc: aybe check now with jhutchins' suggestion ' sudo apt -f install '. See that the package manager is in a happy state.
[21:46] <Llenroc> @Bashing-om Definitely some progress. Now stuck at the following (note: this is a remote server 500 miles away so I can't simply slect an option here...)
[21:46] <Llenroc> Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/99a45c4b162c7ee93b63a659918e43aa/grub-issue2.JPG
[21:50] <Bashing-om> Llenroc: were me I would choose option "1" - and fix any issues at a later time. Let us "assume" that the package manager knows what it is doing here.
[21:51] <Llenroc> @Bashing-om Gotcha. Just gotta figure how to pass that via cli as I can't just choose an option
[21:51] <Bashing-om> sarnold: ^ is the more experienced here :D
[21:53] <sarnold> usually the DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive does the trick
[21:53] <sarnold> but I don't know for sure if it would work for *that* prompt
[21:54] <Llenroc> Well, it's at least a step in the right direction, and I sincerely appreciate that! Back to google-fu, I guess!
[22:39] <rafis> hello, does anyone knows why when "ifconfig" , it shows 2 wifi interfaces, wlan0, and wlo1 , of course they are the same, this happened few days ago. any ideas how to delelte permanently one of those?
[23:23] <hypocrite> hi i wanna install ubuntu with manual partitioning but when it comes to grub and installing in /boot/efi mount point it  cannot proceed. the error is "grub-efi-amd64-signed failed installation /target/ Ubuntu". any idea?(i also check the forum but it didn't work:))
[23:25] <windows10> it work
[23:26] <windows10> dl pus++
[23:26] <windows10> avistaments
[23:26] <windows10> hunter homtower
[23:26] <windows10> tstststsfy
[23:26] <d3fn> I am trying to get an always on vpn connection with ubuntu. The VPN connection and Network Manager seem to not start properply after reboot. if I login and restart the NetworkManager service everything works fine though.
[23:27] <d3fn> any thoughts on what could be the issue?
[23:27] <d3fn> i configured everything with `nm-connection-editor`
[23:30] <genii-core> Does apt-cache search  or apt search not report things in multiverse?
[23:33] <sarnold> genii-core: I think it should if you've got your apt sources configured correctly..
[23:36] <genii-core> sarnold: Actually, the package I was looking for turned out to be in universe... but it looks like packagenames with ++ might be the issue
[23:38] <genii-core> sarnold: eg: apt search libstdc++5   .... no result. But: apt search libstdc|grep ++5   ... libstdc++5/bionic,now 1:3.3.6-30 amd64 [installed]
[23:39] <sarnold> genii-core: oh that, probably the apt 'patterns' :(
[23:40] <genii-core> It's pretty annoying
[23:40] <sarnold> genii-core: I got sent onto a diversion of my own, for some reason "apt-cache show manpages-posix" doesn't show the usual Filename: entry on my system..
[23:40] <sarnold> genii-core: extremely
[23:40] <sarnold> I wish that the patterns had been introduced with something like pattern:foo*bar* etc
[23:44]  * genii-core sips and ponders
[23:45] <genii-core> sarnold: Well, at least apt policy seems to work
[23:47] <genii-core> sarnold: ..I also find it a bit amusing when I did the: apt search libstc|grep ++5  that it reports: "WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts."
[23:49] <sarnold> genii-core: oh, I just can't read! :) I've got my apt sources configured to load multiverse contents from ddebs.ubuntu.com, but not from my own local mirror. sigh :)
[23:49] <sarnold> genii-core: yeah :/ any time stdout isn't a terminal it reports that. kinda annoying but I get it..