[01:03] <endermen1094> how can i set up btrfs support on a drive cataining a different linux distro without reformating it  
 not possible.  but also you don't state what OS you're using, which is relevant.
[01:05] <endermen1094> current os running lubuntu 
[01:07] <endermen1094> os that is installed on btrfs is gentoo 
[01:08] <guiverc> what release?   I've used BTRFS file-systems from lubuntu without issue (opensuse formatted)
[01:09] <endermen1094> guiverc: are you asking me ? 
[01:10] <guiverc> teward asked you too; you mentioned only lubuntu without being specific on release
 and it's also not possible to apply btrfs without a reformat of an os so you can't just 'change' gentoo to use btrfs
 even if you could, making gentoo btrfs compativle and usable is outside the scope of this room since it's for Lubuntu not Gentoo
[01:11] <endermen1094>  lsb_release -a
[01:11] <endermen1094> No LSB modules are available.
[01:11] <endermen1094> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[01:11] <endermen1094> Description:    Ubuntu 21.04
[01:11] <endermen1094> Release:        21.04
[01:12] <endermen1094> the parision is already  btrfs but asking as somehow it disapeared from grub somehow on os-prober and mounting it 
[01:13] <guiverc> I've used BTRFS (formatted by opensuse) as a data drive to copy files from it (possibly to it as well), but I don't know how you intend to use it; if you're trying to install to it - that maybe different/difficult as per teward001's indication
[01:15] <guiverc> I've had issues with update-grub not detecting an opensuse system (btrfs); I usually resolved by 'mounting' the partition manually then re-running the `update-grub` where it was recognized 
[01:16] <Eickmeyer> guiverc: That's a known flaw in grub: it doesn't actually see filesystems inside of lvfs containers or otherwise.
[01:17] <endermen1094> i just asked  in the respective irc channel and now in waiting for a responce from #gentoo
[01:17] <guiverc> yeah that fits Eickmeyer ... I used to come across it semi-regularly with QA-test installs after one of btrfs/xfs (maybe both) followed by a install.alongside QA-test... avoid that combination to not waste time with it..   Thanks for reminder.
[03:20] <endermen1094> how can i make a raid aray 
[03:20] <endermen1094> the devices are named /dev/sda , /dev/sdb 
[04:32] <WBLUBUNTU> .
[05:05] <JoeLlama> Hello and I really am starting to understand that PCManFM-Qt has issues running under lubuntu...  I have replaced it with PCManFM and it solved some issues.  However there are still other issues that it didn't solve that I won't go into.  Just an FYI.
[05:09] <JoeMooCow> aw nuts lost sonnection not sure how much of my message got posted :(
[05:09] <JoeMooCow> *sigh* one more time:
[05:10] <JoeMooCow> Hello and I really am starting to understand that PCManFM-Qt has issues running under lubuntu...  I have replaced it with PCManFM and it solved some issues.  However there are still other issues that it didn't solve that I won't go into.  Just an FYI.
[05:11] <JoeMooCow> Just one question for a few people using PCManFM-Qt under lubuntu:  Can you click on an internet shortcut link using the file manager and not get an error??  I will wait around for anyone to respond.  Thank you :)
[05:26] <guiverc> JoeLlama; pcmanfm-qt handles the desktop under Lubuntu/LXQt; it cannot be replaced by pcmanfm except as a file-manager (ie. it's secondary function)
[05:31] <guiverc> Lubuntu uses a LXQt desktop; hence ... it's critical & if you have issues, providing bug reports may help us understand as I don't know what you're referring to (LXQt can't operate without pcmanfm-qt; just like LXDE couldn't without pcmanfm - it's core to desktop)
[05:37] <JoeMooCow> hi guiverc :)
[05:38] <JoeMooCow> u r probably my favorite on this channel at this point... :P
[05:39] <JoeMooCow> yes there is already a bug report about somne of this stuff,,, I would like to help report this also,,,
[05:39] <guiverc> LXQt is WM agnostic; Lubuntu uses openbox for WM functions; so if pcmanfm-qt is gone you'll likely only be using openbox (ie. not LXQt; same as you were in older Lubuntu with LXDE; openbox was the WM used then too)
[05:39] <JoeMooCow> I like being a part of the solution not be a part of the problem.
[05:39] <JoeMooCow> I would like to see this fixed.
[05:40] <JoeMooCow> I am using both PCManFM and PCManFM-Qt
[05:40] <guiverc> firstly what release please
[05:40] <JoeMooCow> and yes I read about issues with LXQt
[05:41] <JoeMooCow> 20.04.5 is what I run.,.,
[05:41] <JoeMooCow> I have one question for you guiverc...
[05:41] <guiverc> 20.04.5 isn't scheduled until 2nd half of 2022; it won't be 20.04.5; (20.04.3 was last upgrade step for focal)
[05:42] <JoeMooCow> can you click on and open an internet link from PCManFM-Qt without an error?
[05:42] <JoeMooCow> oh?
[05:42] <JoeMooCow> okay then I am running 20.04 with updates and upgrades how ever you put it..,
[05:42] <JoeMooCow> I am sticking with lubuntu at this point through thick and thin
[05:43] <JoeMooCow> I am using both of those file managers.,,,  when one doesn't work for something I use the other and vice versa
[05:45] <guiverc> I don't see where you'd click on an internet link from pcmanfm-qt; no function for it  ; do you mean in the address line (where mine currently says /home/guiverc )
[05:46] <guiverc> (path bar)
[05:46] <JoeMooCow> I have I guess what you call symbokic links to websites...,
[05:46] <JoeMooCow> I used to be able to drag those from thge address bar to a folder but that stopped working
[05:47] <JoeMooCow> my links work from PCManFM but not the Qt
[05:47] <JoeMooCow> you cannot click on an internet shortcut and have it open in browser>>
[05:47] <JoeMooCow> ???
[05:47] <guiverc> okay; I'd never have done that, and wouldn't want to personally; I'd view in editor & if happy then copy & paste into browser only
[05:47] <JoeMooCow> ?!
[05:48] <JoeMooCow> I don't understand...
[05:48] <JoeMooCow> you don't have internet shortcut links???
[05:48]  * JoeMooCow is confused
[05:48] <guiverc> nope.
[05:48] <JoeMooCow> I have to visit like 25 websites a day
[05:48] <JoeMooCow> that would make me crazy if I didn't have a button I could just push
[05:48] <JoeMooCow> I honestly don't understand
[05:49] <JoeMooCow> how can anyone do business that way?
[05:51] <JoeMooCow> well guiverc you helped me understand a little why people don't seem to understand what I mean
[05:51] <JoeMooCow> I guess they do not use that method
[05:51] <guiverc> okay I just created a fridge.ubuntu.com.lnk file and when opened; it opens in firefox 
[05:51] <JoeMooCow> it does?
[05:51] <JoeMooCow> from PCManFM-Qt?
[05:52] <guiverc> yep from pcmanfm-qt, at first it asked me how to deal with the .lnk file & I selected firefox; contents of file was only "https://fridge.ubuntu.com/
[05:52] <guiverc> " created by me at terminal
[05:52] <guiverc> note:  I'm on impish & not focal
[05:54] <JoeMooCow> okay so now this is a *me* issue
[05:54] <guiverc> note: it didn't go to website (what you likely want); it opened file:///home/guiverc/fridge.ubuntu.com.lnk in browse
[05:54] <JoeMooCow> something is up with my build
[05:54] <JoeMooCow> so you have a link in folder... you click on it and it just opens up the link in the browser??
[05:55] <guiverc> I can explore this some, but I gotta step away awhile now (16:00 local I gotta do stuff) but I'll explore a little 
[05:55] <JoeMooCow> okay thanks guiverc you helped me a lot I truly appreciate that...
[05:55] <guiverc> I created a file "cat >fridge.ubuntu.com.lnk" which had the http://.. inside.. but firefox opened that file; not the link in the file; which isn't I bet what you want
[05:56] <JoeMooCow> I think Iwill reinstall to another drive and see if the issue continues
[05:56] <JoeMooCow> no I need to click on a link like www,abcbackn.,com and have it go there immediately
[05:56] <JoeMooCow> I mean... what else/1
[05:57] <JoeMooCow> I deal with about 25 financial institutions on a daily basis
[05:58] <JoeMooCow> I don't understand why my CPU usage goes to 100% on some websites also., sustained
[05:58] <JoeMooCow> okay guiverc thanks again hope to talk with you soon
[06:19] <guiverc> personally I like copy/pasting from a simple text file (allows me to read the link & ensure there is nothing suspicious there).  most of my links are restored in firefox, others in chromium
[06:20] <guiverc> if lnk was changed to URL it was recognized as URL; but effect was the same for me
[06:24] <JoeMooCow> Guest8809 I do that sometimes but...
[06:24] <JoeMooCow> part of what I do is go to financial websites
[06:24] <guiverc> I've booted a focal/20.04 box; same reaction to created file as I get with impish
[06:24] <JoeMooCow> and it's so much easier just to click one thing
[06:25] <JoeMooCow> it's a locate and click
[06:25] <JoeMooCow> any other method is too many steps
[06:25] <JoeMooCow> and I am amazed that you guys don't seem to have a setup for that
[06:26] <JoeMooCow> in windows I used to have a HUGE panel at the bottom auto hide
 is the manual on autohide not clear?
[06:34] <JoeMooCow> oh yes Lynorian but...
[06:34] <JoeMooCow> I need to load that bar up to abot halfway up the screen
[06:34] <JoeMooCow> I have links about 200 of them
[06:35] <JoeMooCow> everything from weather to recent earthquake data.
[06:35] <JoeMooCow> finanacial institutions
[06:35] <JoeMooCow> search engines
[06:35] <JoeMooCow> like www.findparts.com
[06:35] <guiverc> fyi: setups get created when it's something we do regularly.. personally I'd likely use VMs for many sites; or use different boxes for different financial sites
[06:36] <JoeMooCow> one of my favorites for finding chips and electronic parts
[06:36] <JoeMooCow> if you like try http://www.findparts.com/ try :)
[06:36] <guiverc> any I can semi-auto a script 'fridge.ubuntu.com.sh` via double-click ; it contains "#!/bin/bash \n xdg-open https://fridge.ubuntu.com/"
[06:37] <guiverc> I have to click "execute" to confirm on the double-click
[06:37] <guiverc> that was tested in impish; I can test in focal too shortly if wanted
[06:38] <guiverc> but do you understand how I formatted the text; \n = newline
[06:38] <JoeMooCow> to got to a site or folder location I would just muve the cursor to the bottom of the screen the panel would pop up and I would locate the link in like half a second and click and i was there what's not to love abot that?
[06:41] <JoeMooCow> It was a VERY powerful function for me
[06:42] <JoeMooCow> well okay if you guys know a way I can get that panel to open to about have the screen I would appreciate that.,.,. perhaps there is a configuration file some place to modify that limit
[06:48] <JoeMooCow> hrm okay guiverc I see what you are saying I think... I did open some as applications and that did work that was a workaround
[06:49] <JoeMooCow> I need to sometimes type in a website... drag the little lock icon on the address bar to a symbolic link in a folder and then rename it generally
[06:50] <JoeMooCow> and then later click on that link (preferably once) an it just goes too that website in a tab
[06:51] <JoeMooCow> moving the mouse or touching the trackpad in as few moves and clicks as humanly possible
[06:54] <guiverc> i didn't mention it (I believe), but I did `chmod +x` my fridge.ubuntu.com.sh script
[06:59] <JoeMooCow> yes I had to make my link executable... and in PCManFM-Qt I was not able to OR the file manager was ignoring it
[07:00] <JoeMooCow> every time I clicked on a link it asked about making it executable
[07:01] <guiverc> i used `chmod +x` at term first (the moment I added shebang/#!/bin/bash) sorry I didn't think of mentioning it
[07:01] <JoeMooCow> no it's okay
[07:01] <JoeMooCow> I only understand some of it
[07:03] <JoeMooCow> how can we make firefox and PCManFM-Qt allow a direct drag the icon on the address bar to the folder and create an executable sybolic link to open upo the website again?
[07:03] <JoeMooCow> That is my only dream in life atm
[07:04] <JoeMooCow> okay guiverc thanks for talking with me... I've taken up anough channel bandwidth tonight...  please think about it. Thanks!
[07:04] <guiverc> JoeMooCow, as for that I don't know;  I suspect a dev (with a better understanding of how it works) is required..  it maybe it cannot as it's not something the devs would consider anyone would ever want/do (I didn't know what you meant if you recall)
[07:05] <guiverc> (by dev singular I was thinking lubuntu dev; devs plural I was thinking lxqt devs)
[07:06] <JoeMooCow> Okay well I appreciate you comments I really do,,,  my comment to you (and the channel) is.,. windows does that.  I know that sounds rude but windows can do that and I think lubuntu should too.  Makes things super simple and saves tons of time,,,
[07:07] <JoeMooCow> wheb I research something on a project sometimes I will nee 40 of 50 neew websites... you know like parts manufacturers and software makers
[07:08] <JoeMooCow> okay well I think finally you get the idea,,,  I just hope that people understand what I am saying and that this is such a simple and powerful tool,,,
[07:08] <JoeMooCow> it just seems to me that lubuntu should be the solution that has that feature.
[07:08]  * JoeMooCow steps from his soapbox
[07:51] <Sam7> Please help in my lubuntu the icons are not showing 21.4 what to do
[07:53] <Sam7> Hey Also My lubuntu 21.4 hangs in bootup menu what to do
 My Lubuntu 21.4 hangs in the bootup menu and also My Icons of Apps are Not being Shown in Lubuntu 21 4, Please Help..
 The System also hangs a Lot, My System is Ruined only because I trusted in Lubuntu, Please help....
 Will someone Just Help Me ??
 Holla ??
[08:48] <Mekaneck> !patience | @Cape 
[08:48] <Mekaneck> people aren't 24/7 at their pc either
[11:27] <jiehaun> hello
[11:35] <guiverc> @Cape, depending on your device ram specs; it maybe you need to create more swap (default install size is only 512MB which is small; refer https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/how-to-create-a-swapfile-in-lubuntu-20-04-20-10/1959 which shows how to create a 8GB size; adjust the size to what you need; or investigate if swap is your issue; the post has some commands on that too
[11:38] <guiverc> @Cape, I'm unsure of what you mean when you say "boot up menu"; to me it's `grub` you're talking about but I don't know sorry.
 Will You please tell me why my Icons are not being shown ?? (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <guiverc> @Cape, I'm unsure of what you mean when you say "boot up menu"; to me it's `grub` you're talking about but I don't know sorry.)
[12:37] <Mekaneck> @CapeCrusader321 what are your system specs? CPU, RAM, graphics card
[12:38] <Mekaneck> also it's not 21.4 but 21.04 (Year/Month)
 4gb Ram, Intel 5000 graphics, Don't know about Cpu,Ya! Laptop hp notebook (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <Mekaneck> @CapeCrusader321 what are your system specs? CPU, RAM, graphics card)
 Ok,I am Just A Beginner.. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <Mekaneck> also it's not 21.4 but 21.04 (Year/Month))
 Ya! Let me describe you in my words- When i turn on my Laptop, A Lubuntu Icon Appears and starts flickering and then on Screen comes some computer operations saying Plymouth failed etc., So please also help me in this,I Am New to Linux,So Confused and No Specific Tutorials are there for lubuntu.. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <guiverc> @Cape, I'm unsure of what you mean when you say "boot up menu"; to me it's `grub` you're talking about b
 Hello, im waiting like this for several minutes, is something going wrong ? : https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/baa94d04/file_3285.jpg
 i opened computer and this was first thing i did
 ahh finally continuing
 done, im gonna restart
 system seems good, just reporting incase someone may wonder :)
 Unattended updates are security updates that run in the background and have to proceed before the updater can proceed with regular updates. That is essentially what the dialog was saying just not in so many words.
 Lubuntu is based on Ubuntu so many things are the same. In the case of Plymouth switching to text, there should be an error message, we would need to know what that is. Also, does the system continue to boot normally after that? (re @CapeCrusader321: Ya! Let me describe you in my words- When i turn on my Laptop, A Lubuntu Icon Appears and starts flickering and then on Screen comes some computer operations saying Plymouth failed etc., So plea
 Yes the system boots normally but lags a lot and Icons disappears.. (re @kc2bez: Lubuntu is based on Ubuntu so many things are the same. In the case of Plymouth switching to text, there should be an error message, we would need to know what that is. Also, does the system continue to boot normally after that?)
 Shall I Send A Video Clip For Better understanding of the Problem.. (re @kc2bez: Lubuntu is based on Ubuntu so many things are the same. In the case of Plymouth switching to text, there should be an error message, we would need to know what that is. Also, does the system continue to boot normally after that?)
 I guess we can try to work with that. (re @CapeCrusader321: Shall I Send A Video Clip For Better understanding of the Problem..)
 Ok i will send the video.. (re @kc2bez: I guess we can try to work with that.)
 https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/9fd39c02/file_3286.jpg
 This is a Image of what happens after logging in,Icons disappears...
[15:53] <daemon> hey all got a strange problem, just installed lubuntu 21.04 but when it boots into the desktop enviroment I just get a black screen and then my display says nothing is connected on HDMI
[15:53] <daemon> is there anything special you need to do with nvidia graphics cards?
[15:55] <daemon> I can get to terminal via ctrl+alt+f2 fine
[15:55] <daemon> and the system is booted
 https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/3c61d4d5/file_3287.jpg
 https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/e1db9548/file_3288.jpg
 https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/97cac904/file_3289.jpg
 https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/3ae20358/file_3290.jpg
 https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/7f72cc06/file_3291.jpg
[16:37] <daemon> ah ha got it working
[16:37] <daemon> only problem I have now is that titlebars appear to be absolutely microscopic
[16:37] <daemon> every other font and icon is absolutely fine
[16:38] <daemon> cannot see where to change the actual window border height anywhere (the font in the actual title is fine) infact the font is taller than the bar its self
[16:43] <daemon> got that too, reboot fixed it somehow
 I see you changed the theme. By chance did you change the icon theme too? (re @CapeCrusader321: )
 My problem is solved, Thanks for giving me your time, 😍 (re @kc2bez: Lubuntu is based on Ubuntu so many things are the same. In the case of Plymouth switching to text, there should be an error message, we would need to know what that is. Also, does the system continue to boot normally after that?)
 😌
 Yeps.. (re @kc2bez: I see you changed the theme. By chance did you change the icon theme too?)
 Later when i selected other icon set my problem was solved... (re @kc2bez: I see you changed the theme. By chance did you change the icon theme too?)
 I am glad you were able to solve your issue. 😊 (re @CapeCrusader321: My problem is solved, Thanks for giving me your time, 😍)
 Thanks for giving your time ... (re @kc2bez: I am glad you were able to solve your issue. 😊)
 https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/632d307b/file_3293_tgs.webp
 Happy to help.