| lotuspsychje | good morning | 02:10 |
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| lotuspsychje | morning mei | 06:39 |
| mei | hey! thank you | 06:39 |
| lotuspsychje | you can start a discuss topic here if you like | 06:40 |
| mei | sure, i had just to drop a simple line: i find ubuntu quiet relaxing as aesthetic :) | 06:40 |
| lotuspsychje | wich version are you on? | 06:41 |
| mei | i'm on the latest one with gnome, already waiting for the version 40 which should improve multi-tasking | 06:42 |
| mei | probably i will jump into the beta when it's released on the 30th of this month | 06:42 |
| lotuspsychje | devel version wull update itself to final | 06:43 |
| lotuspsychje | *will | 06:43 |
| lotuspsychje | im on 20.04 and always help debug LTS releases | 06:43 |
| lotuspsychje | so im gonna help debug 22.04 early | 06:46 |
| mei | uhm i find lts a bit too much for desktop use | 06:46 |
| mei | but i see the things improved with many apps being updated on their own | 06:48 |
| lotuspsychje | the users choice indeed mei | 06:48 |
| ducasse | good morning | 06:49 |
| guiverc | G'day ducasse | 06:59 |
| ducasse | howdy guiverc - you doing well? | 07:01 |
| guiverc | yep... (just got a Welcome to GNOME 40 ; want to take a tour on another box; I hadn't noticed that in Ubuntu) | 07:02 |
| ducasse | i've not ran a standard desktop environment in years, should give a couple a spin | 07:02 |
| lotuspsychje | hey guiverc ; ) | 07:03 |
| guiverc | how about you ducasse? (sorry I didn't realize this was #ubuntu-discuss; didn't look) | 07:03 |
| ducasse | one day i'll convert lotus to i3 | 07:03 |
| ducasse | all well here :) | 07:03 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 07:04 |
| lotuspsychje | guiverc: prepare for lotus hardcore bug creating on early 22.04 :p | 07:14 |
| guiverc | 22.04 too far away for me to consider... impish, 20.04.4... nah don't want to think further ahead | 07:16 |
| lotuspsychje | guiverc: october not so far away right | 07:22 |
| guiverc | yeah impish is frozen to a large extent (UI frozen; not kernel freeze as I recall) but minor shim changes can mean loads of QA tesing is involved (ensure no adverse impacts for boxes that shouldn't be impacted etc) | 07:26 |
| lotuspsychje | aha | 07:27 |
| guiverc | one issue that appeared (bug raised) in impish cycle; ended up impacting focal, hirsute as upgraded (security) package backported... I'm too scared currently to look further than impish (in case work escalates..) | 07:29 |
| lotuspsychje | oof | 07:35 |
| lotuspsychje | i think we get into a bottleneck guiverc | 07:36 |
| guiverc | most of the time we're not aware of all the issues (I sure aren't!); something to be thankful for :) | 07:36 |
| lotuspsychje | hehe | 07:36 |
| lotuspsychje | its been raining 5.11 bugs and nvidia 470, now switching to wayland joins the game | 07:37 |
| guiverc | your wording put a 'somewhat horrific' jingle in my mind... I heard "it's raining bugs... hallelujah it's raining bugs.." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5aZJBLAu1E&t=57s -- why I thought of that jingle I don't wanna know.. but :( | 07:44 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 07:45 |
| lotuspsychje | ramblebamble: xorg will be still a users choice for a while | 16:16 |
| lotuspsychje | so not really abandonware | 16:16 |
| ogra | as long as Xorg apps exist XWayland will exists ... which uses ... guess ... Xorg 🙂 | 16:17 |
| ramblebamble | I understand that, the fact that you have to force firefox and thunderbird to use wayland using ENV is proof of that, but reading a statement from Red Hat's that they are winding down development if they haven't done that already is not inspiring me to suggest X to anyone | 16:17 |
| ogra | it just embeds the Xorg window into a wayland window | 16:17 |
| ogra | Xorg as standalone session will likely go away eventually ... in years ... but Xorg istelf will persist as long as apps using it will exist | 16:19 |
| lotuspsychje | and so we can offer users both as a choice as volunteers :p | 16:19 |
| ogra | 😄 | 16:20 |
| ramblebamble | ogra when I read I looked into the X-logs I understand that the X-server is actively running the session, and reading this https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=XServer-Abandonware and this https://forums.theregister.com/forum/all/2020/10/30/x_server_lead_maintainer_declares/ etc.... would warrent switching I guess. Anyways, message understood, no statements of that kind | 16:22 |
| ogra | well, it receives security fixes and all ... just not new features | 16:23 |
| ogra | it is "mature" 😉 | 16:24 |
| lotuspsychje | but still nice of you to try to help a user being futureproof ramblebamble | 16:24 |
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