[00:02] <FreeBDSM> bah, turns out Android-x86 is lagging too much behind :(
[00:30] <lamona> hi
[00:30] <lamona> can any one reply
[01:49] <morgans> lamona I didnt see you ask a question. That's how it is done here.
[01:49] <morgans> !question ubottu|lamona
[01:49] <morgans> oh I forgot how she works
[01:51] <summonner> lamona left the channel
[01:53] <morgans> I am looking at web page after web page, please remind me how to use ubottu to get thsi --->  metaquestion problem questions question	<reply> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience
[01:54] <morgans> the list doesnt have the syntax
[01:55] <morgans> !ask morgans
[01:56] <Bashing-om> !ubottu
[01:57] <matsaman> ubottu--
[01:59] <morgans> I swear I wathere. but now I clicked and that is reoboting chrome... too many tabs and I (skip story) any learning will be delayed for a while)
[02:26] <hornba1l> notify shemomrp
[02:26] <hornba1l> notify auntiecd
[02:36] <morgans> om the pc
[02:37] <ogen> I could give up on all my chrome tabs and start fresh.
[02:38] <ogen> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/02/opinion/newsom-elder-california-recall.html
[03:23] <rud0lf> will ubuntu work fine with monitor connected with USB 2.0 ?
[03:28] <yukiup> only if its advertised that it does
[03:29] <yukiup> link?
[05:29] <Hash> Hello
[05:30] <Hash> I am on Ubuntu with some KDE packages I use
[05:30] <Hash> I use Spectacle to take snapshots/screenshots and upload to imgur, however, it doesn't give you the imgur delete link for that image. It's a known bug in the KDE program filed online. I am wondering, do you guys know of a program like spectacle, who can also upload to imgur but give you the delete link as well
[06:35] <klausfiend> hi there, i have recently started RnD on adopting the new Ubuntu 20 autoinstall tooling with our provisioning process, and I have a question about boot options … searched exhaustively but found nothing … basically, a lot of our machines have multiple connected interfaces, and the initrd process sends DHCPDISCOVER packets on all connected interfaces, and i want to not do that … i.e., i want it to only send a DHCP request on a spec
[06:35] <klausfiend> ic interface that's specified in the "interface=<ifname>" boot option, but that doesn't seem to work.
[06:35] <klausfiend> can someone point me in the right direction to force the bootstrap process to limit DHCP requests to a specific interface (via MAC, via logical name, etc. is fine, i just want to make sure the wrong interface doesn't try to bootstrap)
[06:37] <mei> does this channel have a social second channel? i can not find it
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | mei
[06:48] <alkisg> klausfiend: in the old days this was BOOTIF, google it, not sure if it still works
[06:55] <klausfiend> yeah, i've been using "interface" for everything preseed-based from U14-18, but U20 is a whole different ball of wax
[06:56] <klausfiend> still seeing it probe eth0 and eth1 at startup
[08:22] <Hash> Hello. I have no idea how i have networking in Ubuntu 20.04. Not sure if it is something I did. I go to network icon, right click, configure networks and enp620 whatever, doesn't show up at all. If I do `ip a` it shows up
[08:23] <Hash> I'm trying to configure custom dns server and I don't know where. /etc/network/interfaces doesn't exist anymore
[08:23] <Hash> But here I am, online. Not sure how
[08:24] <Hash> For some reason I have a br0 that has a 10.x ip address from the router
[08:26] <Hash> https://termbin.com/n82o output of ip a
[08:41] <Hash> https://termbin.com/c9xa
[08:41] <Hash> I have this in  /etc/netplan/00-install-config.yaml
[08:42] <Hash> How did this happen? How did I end up with a br0 instead of using my nic
[08:56] <privato89> Hi
[08:56] <privato89> I have a Dell XPS 9380 and wanna configure the fingerprint with Ubuntu 20.04
[08:57] <privato89> But when I type lsusb on terminal it doesn't reconigze the fingerprint device
[09:20] <privato89> I can't find the driver for that fingerprint on ubuntu 20.04
[10:03] <webchat27> Using Kubuntu, just updated and OS no longer boots. cannot find volume group vg-kubuntu, already tried chroot and running apt upgrade again with no effect, also update-initramfs -u had no effect
[10:04] <webchat27> Annoyingly had this before but cant remember what the fix was
[10:13] <TJ-> webchat27: is the install encrypted ?
[10:13] <webchat27> yeah
[10:18] <webchat27> Unsure if /etc/crypttab is setup correctly or not, sda3_crypt UUID=<ID matching /dev/sda3> none luks,discard
[10:27] <webchat27> fstab has: /dev/mapper/vgkubuntu-root /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[10:27] <webchat27> So, should crypttab first line b vgkubuntu-root instead of sda3_crypt
[10:32] <mei> webchat27 if /dev/sda3 is your / yeah
[10:33] <mei> if contains lvm maybe not
[10:33] <webchat27> rebooting, lets hope for the best..
[10:36] <mei> the reaction was a bit too fast :-D
[10:43] <Apachez> do bash when using read in a while loop support other settings than "< filename" to read the file? Do there exist like an "exclusive" filelock or "unenclusive" filelock while reading the file? For example so not another software updates the file being read mid through
[10:50] <webchat31> no luck sadly
[10:55] <webchat31> unsure if related, apt list --installed linux-image-* and uname-r show different kernel versions
[10:55] <webchat31> apt list gives 5.8.0-48 as the oldest in the list, uname-r is 5.8.0-43
[10:58] <webchat31> reboot attempt number... uhh, 25?
[11:01] <webchat1> still not working, update-grub doesn't seem to run in chroot though not sure if related, editing to the kernel version also didnt boot but got the same vgkubuntu not found error
[11:19] <TJ-> sounds like webchatXX needs to fix the initialramfs build, not GRUB
[11:45] <BinarySavior> ubuntu is waking immediately after sleep to a lock screen, then if I click sleep from the lock screen it goes to a black screen with permanent blinking curser
[11:45] <BinarySavior> cursor*
[11:45] <BinarySavior> i'm on desktop, ubuntu 21.04
[11:47] <BinarySavior> also if, instead of clicking suspend a second time, if I try to log back in, it will go through two login screens before reaching my desktop, to find that all applications have been closed
[12:10] <TJ-> BinarySavior: will it work if, from a fresh boot, you use "sudo systemctl suspend" ?
[12:10] <BinarySavior> brb i restart and try
[12:14] <BinarySavior> TJ-, yes the same behavior happens after a fresh restart and "sudo systemctl suspend"
[12:14] <BinarySavior> also, the same behavior happens if I try Power Off or Restart
[12:16] <TJ-> BinarySavior: OK, that suggests a hardware/ACPI issue. There may be clues in the kernel log. Can you show us "psatebinit <( journalctl -k )" after a clean boot
[12:17] <ravage> *pastebinit
[12:20] <TJ-> haha my fingers are more dyslexic every day! Just been writing some Java code and the number of typos when compiling was embarassing
[12:40] <BinarySavior> TJ- https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DnxkHb7Yjq/
[12:40] <sp0fp12> hello there?
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> can we help you sp0fp12
[12:42] <TJ-> BinarySavior: ouch! there are a /lot/ of kernel module crashes in the nvidia code there
[12:43] <BinarySavior> i have had some nvidia issues lately after an update/upgrade
[12:43] <krishna> Hi everyone, I am new here (IRC) and have been a user of Arch Linux for some time now, I am trying to replicate the minimalism that comes with Arch in Ubuntu also, is there some way of doing so. Will the server installs work ??
[12:43] <TJ-> BinarySavior: those are very likely to be causing this; they look quite severe
[12:43] <TJ-> krishna: yes
[12:44] <krishna> Is there is a guide on how to setup a desktop from an ubuntu server install
[12:45] <TJ-> krishna: relatively simply - install the *-desktop package of the desktop environment you prefer and it depends on everything required.
[12:45] <TJ-> krishna: but if you're going to do that, that's identical to a 'desktop' install
[12:46] <sevenever> how do you goto end of a word when editing command in zsh? alt-f moves the cursor to the first char of next word, what i want is move the cursor to the first space after current word.
[12:46] <ioria> krishna, the ubuntu installer  already has an 'minimal' option
[12:46] <TJ-> krishna: you can influence it to some extent manually. Many packages have a light-weight dependency on others called "Recommends:" - non-essential but useful. You can do "apt install --no-install-recommends <some-package>" and it won't pull in the recommends.
[12:47] <krishna> Thanks TJ , unfortunately I am too new to IRC so I donot know how to reply to your message in the way you guys do, could you help on that, Like I cant mention your username in my reply like you people can
[12:47] <krishna> Is there an irc command for that
[12:47] <krishna> \
[12:47] <TJ-> krishna: that is helpful when installing a top-level desktop package since Recommends applies to every package it pulls in, and can pull in many more packages than you intend
[12:47] <ioria> krishna, https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/02/ubuntu-18-04-minimal-install-option
[12:47] <TJ-> krishna: in most IRC clients type a few characters of the nickname and press Tab to complete
[12:48] <ThinkT510> krishna: simply mentioning the name highlihts them
[12:48] <krishna> Oh okay TJ- Is this correct
[12:48] <krishna> ioria, did that work??
[12:49] <ioria> krishna, what you mean ?
[12:50] <krishna> ioria, was your name properly mentioned in my message I am trying to learn IRC that is why
[12:50] <ioria> krishna, sure
[12:50] <TJ-> krishna: yes, you've got it
[12:51] <TJ-> krishna: although sometimes you have to watch carefully in case your tab-complete matches another nickname than the one you intended.
[12:51] <krishna> Thanks TJ- and ioria I will keep your tips in mind during an ubuntu install and also in irc thanks !!
[12:51] <ioria> ok krishna
[12:51] <BinarySavior> when i type sudo apt pruge nvidia* i get error message E: Unable to locate package nvidia-profiles
[12:52] <krishna> Guys again another irc based question how do I clear the screen like the clear command in the terminal
[12:53] <coconut> krishna, /clear here under hexchat, dunno what you use
[12:54] <krishna> thanks coconut I do use hexchat so that worked !
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> BinarySavior: check if driver is loaded in the first place? sudo lshw -C video
[13:18] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:32] <BinarySavior> lotuspsychje, driver's loaded https://bpa.st/HZAQ
[13:33] <Sven_vB> good morning :) every morning, my ubuntu focal notebook loses the IPv4 address on its wifi connection, and thus, connectivity. NetworkManager seems to not detect this, it thinks the connection is still up and running, according to "nmcli c". Adding back the IPv4 address, or reloading the static IP config with "nmcli c up id wifi200" fixes it. is there a way to run this automatically whenever a network interface connected to wifi200 (usually wlp2s0
[13:33] <Sven_vB> or wlx…) becomes devoid of IPv4 addresses?
[13:35] <Sven_vB> ideally event-based. I could of course make a cron job that checks every minute.
[13:41] <Guest17> hi
[13:42] <Guest17> hello
[13:42] <Guest17> ok bye
[13:50] <alkisg> Sven_vB: the best thing would be to solve the issue, not to workaround it. What happens in the morning, a dhcp lease expires and it supposed to be renewed? What's the output of `ip a` before the problem happens? What does `journalctl -u NetworkManager` say? Etc
[13:54] <Sven_vB> since the wifi200 connection is set up for static IP, I hope that NetworkManager would ignore any DHCP stuff.
[13:55] <Sven_vB> I only captured the ifconfig output from before fixing it, it looked perfectly normal except the IPv4 address was missing.
[13:55] <krishna> guys what in your opinion is an irc app that works great on android
[13:55] <jeremy31> irccloud
[13:56] <krishna> jeremy31, is it on fdroid or playstore
[13:56] <alkisg> Sven_vB: try to capture it (1) before the problem happens, (2) when the problem happens, (3) when it's fixed
[13:56] <alkisg> And also the journalctl messages
[13:57] <jeremy31> krishna: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:57] <krishna> jeremy31, cool
[13:58] <jeremy31> Sven_vB: where are you setting the address to static?  Network Manager or in the wifi router?
[14:00] <Sven_vB> jeremy31, in the NetworkManager config
[14:02] <jeremy31> Sven_vB: have you rebooted the router lately
[14:03] <TJ-> Sven_vB: does "journalctl -u NetworkManager" give indications as to why?
[14:04] <Sven_vB> jeremy31, no, not in the last 60 days. however I do remember that the problem only occurrs if the wifi router had been up for longer than a week.
[14:05] <twocarlo_> test
[14:06] <twocarlo_> j #ssl
[14:37] <mei> seems like that changing computer name in settings does not affect /etc/hosts but only /etc/hostname
[14:40] <Sven_vB> between a time where network was still working, and the time when I fixed it to work again, these were the only journalctl messages from NetworkManager (I added spaces to align words): http://paste.debian.net/plainh/344977b6
[14:41] <Sven_vB> it seems like the wifi link layer was reconnected but NM forgot to configure IP after that.
[14:41] <ioria> mei, if you reaaly want a Gui for that, you can use gnome-network-admin
[14:42] <Sven_vB> mei, ideally you should add the new name to /etc/hosts before changing the name, and remove the old name only after.
[14:43] <mei> mhm thank you, i was just noticing that chaing the name by settings seems a bit incomplete
[14:45] <Sven_vB> mei, it's not even necessary to have the local machine's name in /etc/hosts though. for example, the new name might be registered in DNS.
[14:52] <BinarySavior>  lotuspsychje my problem with purging nvidia was that i was currently in a directory that contained .deb package that matched the nvidia* string
[15:10] <sagredo> Package python3-pip is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[15:10] <sagredo> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[15:10] <sagredo> is only available from another source
[15:10] <sagredo> E: Package 'python3-pip' has no installation candidate
[15:10] <sagredo> ?
[15:10] <sagredo> I'm trying to install pip
[15:12] <krytarik> !info python3-pip
[15:12] <sagredo> thank you, krytarik
[15:12] <krytarik> sagredo: Got the 'universe' repo enabled?
[15:12] <TJ-> sagredo: does the system have the 'universe' component enabled?
[15:13] <sagredo> i did not
[15:13] <sagredo> have this
[15:13] <sagredo> ah hah, the packages. Excellent.
[16:00] <daemon> hey all, just got a new install running and hit a snag, when the desktop should come up or at least the login manager I simply get a black screen and a notice from my display that HDMI is not connected - I managed to get to terminal with ctrl-alt-2
[16:00] <daemon> and the system appears to be running totally fine, not quite sure what to do from here
[16:00] <daemon> looking at Xorg.log all seems fine
[16:01] <daemon> https://termbin.com/55f3
[16:02] <daemon> the graphics card is a NVIDIA GF119
[16:05] <ioria> daemon,  you can try a 'sudo systemctl restart gdm'
[16:06] <daemon> ioria, yep already had that though, I see the device flicker it got something on HDMI then go back to displaying black and 'no signal'
[16:06] <daemon> this system was working earlier today with devuan so I know that it is not a hardware issue
[16:07] <daemon> got it! had to install the proprietary nvidia drivers them all seems well
[16:07] <daemon> strange
[16:08] <daemon> 'nvidia-driver-390' apparently pretty old
[16:13] <ramblebamble> daemon, consider switching to wayland, X is abandon-ware
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> please no statements like that in here ramblebamble
[16:14] <daemon> ramblebamble, this system is for retroarch bearing in mind the ancient nvidia card and the nature of emulation, perhaps another day :)
[16:14] <ramblebamble> ah ok yes, then of course not
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> ramblebamble: in #ubuntu-discuss plz
[16:18] <Sven_vB> I'd like to restart lightdm on Ubuntu focal, but I'd like one screen (terminal multiplexer) to survive. it had been started from within that lightdm session though. is there a way to tell systemd to extract it?
[16:18] <Sven_vB> probably "decouple" would have been the better word.
[16:33] <ramblebamble> Sven_vB that is a rather unusal request. Instinctively I would say not possible, because of hierarchy pstree etc. BUT I did some research, apparently you can move a process to a new session using setsid on the cli. The way I understand it is that sessions consists of one or more processgroups which in turn have one or more processes. There can be only one leader and the currently active process
[16:33] <ramblebamble> group will see signals sent to the session
[16:34] <Sven_vB> ramblebamble, does it mean I would have had to run screen with setsid at the time I started the screen session?
[16:34] <ramblebamble> NOW, I have no clue what will happen if you give a process in a processgroup a new session different from the process groups controling session, if setsid is for that(?) but If I were wou you might wanna check up on that
[16:35] <Sven_vB> ramblebamble, I have a mostly-identical system where I can test any approach.
[16:35] <ramblebamble> good point you have to call setsid at invocation time, so that does appear to be possible
[16:38] <Sven_vB> it seems that I'm in luck and my screen launch script already uses setsid.
[16:38] <Sven_vB> how do I verify it?
[16:40] <ramblebamble> Sven_vB, I would go with /proc/<processid>/sessionid
[16:40] <Sven_vB> "ps o user,pid,ppid,pgid,sid,args -C screen" reports, amongst others, "sven       58344   58343   58344   58344 SCREEN -U -O -h 0" and afair the uppercaseness of SCREEN means this is the process that manages the terminals. I'll verify by disconnecting the terminals and checking what survives.
[16:42] <Sven_vB> yes, the other (lowercase) "screen"s have disappeared from ps, and the SCREEN's ppid changed to 1.
[16:43] <ramblebamble> that means the child-process got adopted by init :)
[16:46] <TJ-> Sven_vB: you said you want a terminal multiplexer to survive? you mean 'screen' or 'tmux' ?
[16:46] <Sven_vB> TJ-, screen
[16:47] <Sven_vB> I launch it via lightdm autostart, which seems a bad idea when I want to restart lightdm
[16:50] <TJ-> hmmm, not used 'screen' a lot recently, but with 'tmux' I frequently entirely log-out and the tmux server remains (in the user slice aka cgroup)
[16:50] <Sven_vB> I think I need to move its process group to another systemd session
[16:51] <Sven_vB> TJ-, indeed maybe the pgid change to 1 does the trick. I'll try.
[16:52] <Sven_vB> nope, it died.
[16:53] <Sven_vB> what part of system manages user sessions?
[16:53] <Sven_vB> *systemd
[17:07] <ramblebamble> Sven_vB look at "man systemd" look for --user, so putting a service-file into .config/systemd/user will let SystemD know that there is a user-service, however the longevity of a process in the user-slice is controlled by loginctl controlling systemd-logind it has the option "enable-linger"
[17:07] <ramblebamble> sorry you have lost your session
[17:15] <Sven_vB> yeah I could request from logind to allow linger for the entire user. however I'd prefer to only have that one screen survive. and it should be possible, because user sven has another session running on tty1. there has to be a way to move that process groub to that session.,
[17:15] <Sven_vB> no problem, the killed screen was just on the test system
[17:16] <Sven_vB> well, I could probably allow linger and then manually kill all processes that I don't care about. I think highly of systemd though, I expect it to be able to do that reassignment.
[17:22] <ramblebamble> Sven_vB another possiblity, write system-file or start a scree-session any other way in the background, and connect to it using your user
[17:23] <Sven_vB> odd. even when I enabled linger, it did not prevent the screen session from being killed.
[17:23] <Sven_vB> yeah the proper way would probably be to start it as a systemd service.
[17:24] <Sven_vB> I guess logind uses the linger setting from the time the session was started.
[18:15] <Guest78> Hi Everyone, I am new to IRC, I just want to report an issue I found on screen manpage
[18:18] <Guest78> The explanation about string escapes in the ubuntu manpage is suddenly jump to '%E' from '%%' http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/en/man1/screen.1.html#string%20escapes
[18:19] <Guest78> Please compare with https://www.gnu.org/software/screen/manual/screen.html#String-Escapes
[18:21] <pinheadmz> is there any way to apt install a package from hirsute if im running focal? I want libunbound 1.13 on ubuntu 20
[18:22] <Kel> Guest78: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manpage-repository <- I believe you would submit that feedback here.
[18:23] <Kel> Does look like quite the ommission!
[18:28] <Guest78> Kel: Thanks for your reply. I hope someone else could take care of this...
[19:25] <Guest39> سلام!
[19:26] <Guest39> کسی نیست؟
[19:57] <dreamon> hello want to set cpu governor to conservative → echo conservative | tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor but have to do it as root. how can I start it at boot?
[19:57] <ubugun> Hi, I am trying to make bootable live usb with Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS. I have tried to simply dd the iso to the usb stick. bios is able to recognize my usb but it doesn't but - black screen with "reboot and select propert boot device...". Is it the proper way to do this with dd? If not can you please provide me an up to date tutorial to prepare
[19:57] <ubugun> bootable usb? Please notice I am working on a different linux system. Because of that I need only generic tools (like terminal stuff) to do this and not ubuntu specific tools.
[20:00] <coconut> ubugun, most easily is to use gnome-disks in my opinion
[20:04] <ubugun> I would like to know what steps are necessary to to crate a bootable live usb.
[20:06] <ubugun> here is also something about dd https://vitux.com/how-to-create-a-bootable-usb-stick-from-the-ubuntu-terminal/
[20:08] <ubugun> "of=/dev/sdb1" is it right? or maybe "sdb" instead of "sdb1"? sdb1 point to a partion. why do I need to select a partition in case of dd?
[20:11] <EriC^^> reading
[20:11] <EriC^^> ubugun: that article seems wrong, you are supposed to use the disk itself and not a partition, e.g /dev/sdb
[20:12] <EriC^^> the iso itself has a partition table and everything
[20:12] <ubugun> dd bs=4M if=ubuntu-20.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdf1 conv=fdatasync status=progress - this was my first attempt. I am dding without "1" now. I hope it will be the solution.
[20:15] <EriC^^> ubugun: looks good
[20:18] <ubugun> yeah. it looks good.  so, the dd command is suifficient. you don't need to create efi/grub etc by yourself. and the tutorials using "sdb1" are stupid ;)
[20:19] <ubugun> thx
[20:25] <coconut> ubugun, terminal with dd or cp works, but you'll end up with a non-readable filesystem on it, so looking on the stick with your eyes will not show files. It will boot however, so if that is your only goal, then fine...
[21:08] <daviddgtnt> ok
[21:08] <daviddgtnt> so
[21:08] <daviddgtnt> sic works
[21:08] <daviddgtnt> suckless is amazing
[21:08] <daviddgtnt> exit
[21:10] <daviddgtnt> hi
[21:10] <daviddgtnt> does suckless ii intimidate you?
[21:10] <daviddgtnt> again does suckless ii intimidate you?
[21:11] <daviddgtnt_> or is hexchat more your style
[21:11] <daviddgtnt__> or sic
[21:11] <daviddgtnt__> also by suckless
[21:12] <daviddgtnt__> [C[B:quit
[22:06] <boxrick> Hello!
[22:06] <boxrick> I have an Ubuntu 20 server and need to talk to an old crappy server that only supports 'Arcfour' ssh protocol.
[22:07] <boxrick> Sadly it seems to have been removed in Openssh 7, any ideas how to run an older openssh version / protocol etc?
[22:09] <klausfiend> boxrick: dumb question but have you considered using a container to do this? you should be able to spin up a Docker instance that uses an older Linux distro that still supports RC4
[22:09] <boxrick> Not yet, was hoping to do it natively before going down that route. But thats a good thought.
[23:53] <stefano999> STATUS