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[14:47] <gour> hello, i'm linux user for >20yrs and used many distros (gentoo, arch, suse, fedora, debian) but spent vey little time with ubuntu...as i'm getting older i want to have less tweaking with the system and i'm not doing much development (web web stuff) and lot of writing, taking notes etc. at the moment i run debian/sidx/xfce, but wonder that xubuntu might be a better choice offering (still) fresh packages, but more stable than sid and less admin overhead
[14:47] <gour> any thoughts?
[14:49]  * gour is dl-ing 21.04 release to try it out
[17:16] <diogenes_> gour: with flatpaks, appimages and snaps, you can have up-to-date software even on Debian stable.
[17:17] <diogenes_> But Xubuntu to s awesome.
[17:17] <diogenes_> Is*
[17:33] <gour> diogenes_: ok, thanks for the input, although i'd prefer not to depende too much on containers...what would be main difference between sid and xubuntu?
[17:44] <diogenes_> gour: well Ubuntu is focused on making a desktop OS as simple as possible for everybody with everything set up, customized and ready to run out of the box + paying attention to the look and feel, they tweak some packages to get maximum simplicity and give less headache for users who just want to have everything set up for them, one random example would be the udev package in Xubuntu and Debian, in Xubuntu you get to see and interract with all netwvork
[17:44] <diogenes_> shares (including windows ones) right out of the box in thunar, i've tried to achieve the same result on Debian and failed.
[17:45] <diogenes_> Network*
[18:18] <gour> diogenes_: heh, i can find my way in debian, but it requires time and i'm getting bored to take care about all the details...so, yes, i might try xubuntu, first on my spare machine - old netbook to get a feeling