[04:42] <Berlyn> What kernel version is 20.04.3 at currently? Is it on par with the latest 21.04?
[04:45] <toddc> Berlyn: 5.11.0-34-generic for 20.04.3  I assume that 21.04 in newer but not looked yet
[04:46] <toddc> Berlyn: google says 21.04 uses 5.11
[04:49] <Berlyn> Thanks toddc
[06:51] <ducasse> morning folks
[06:51] <alkisg> o/
[08:43] <neurochrome> Hey folks! I've got a weird issue, which seems to be down to a missing package (maybe).  I'm on Ubuntu 18.04, I had to upgrade from the 4 series kernel to the 5 series kernel due to a breakage with my system and nvidia.  5 works fine, but every new kernel install results in a broken boot state, and I need to install additional packages to get it to boot.
[08:43] <neurochrome> So for the latest kernel on my system (5.4.0-84) I was missing the linux-signatures-nvidia-5.4.0-84-generic package.
[08:44] <neurochrome> What package do I need to install to ensure that the next version of this is installed with the newer kernel?
[08:56] <Hanumaan> applied netplan in 20.04 but it is taking the values although configuration does not complain for eth1 : https://pastebin.com/cbpAYvvx what could be the reason?
[09:09] <ogra> Hanumaan, do you have any other files in /etc/netplan ? als, is that a server with network-manager installed ?
[09:09] <ogra> *also
[09:10] <ogra> (see https://netplan.io/ ... "renderer: NetworkManager" effectivey hands over the managment to NM)
[09:19] <Hanumaan> ogra there is another file 50-cloud-init.yaml
[09:19] <ogra> well, with any content ?
[09:21] <Hanumaan> ogra, updated the paste : https://pastebin.com/cbpAYvvx
[09:24] <ogra> Hanumaan, so do you have network-manager installed there or why did you pick it as a renderer ? that will definitely make it default to DHCP unless you set up the device in netwrok-manager to be static (again, see the netplan.io frontpage)
[09:28] <Hanumaan> ogra, ok wonderful got that after removing the renderer ..
[09:28] <ogra> great
[09:38] <eoli3n> Hi
[09:39] <eoli3n> is there any reason why a snap package would not detect nvidia GPU with blender ?
[09:40] <neurochrome> I should probably rephrase that question... how can I ensure that the relevant `linux-signatures-nvidia-*KERNEL_VERSION*-generic` package is automatically installed with a new kernel.  There doesn't appear to be a meta package for this. Any ideas?
[09:47] <EriC^^> neurochrome: you could try a apt-cache rdepends to see what is pulling it in
[09:48] <nikolam> I just wonder, Why, while I am using HD4600 graphics in Intel i5 4570 (Hp 600 G1 twr) , whenever I start some apps whole 24" screen on DP to HDMI output, displays black screen while application is loading and then image comes back on the screen
[09:48] <nikolam> I previously had installed AMD RX480 but I moved to using integrated Intel graphics
[09:57] <neurochrome> Cheers EriC^^
[09:58] <neurochrome> That led me to the following packages: linux-modules-nvidia-470-lowlatency-hwe-18.04 linux-modules-nvidia-470-generic-hwe-18.04
[09:59] <Guest14> Hi
[10:03] <Guest14> I was trying to open port 22 in my ubuntu home desktop using ufw firewall tool but it doesnt open it when i try sshing to the machine? it remains closed. any help please?
[10:04] <eoli3n> Guest14 i will be helpful if you paste the command you used
[10:05] <eoli3n> you are connecting through a local network ?
[10:06] <Guest14> ufw allow 22
[10:06] <Guest14> yes my through my home network
[10:06] <eoli3n> to test if the port is open, on the server machine run "nc -vz localhost 22"
[10:07] <eoli3n> then same from a client "nc -vz $server_ip 22"
[10:07] <eoli3n> if port is open from server itself and from a client, then it should be a problem with you sshd config
[10:08] <Guest14> a question do I have to install open-ssh or only ssh will do ?
[10:09] <Hanumaan> what is the default network manager in ubuntu-xenial-16.04 and ubuntu-focal-20.04 and 21.04?
[10:09] <Guest14> the port i am sure is not open even after adding the ufw rule
[10:09] <Hanumaan> is it NetworkManager or networkd?
[10:09] <eoli3n> Guest14 what does give ufw status
[10:10] <Guest14> it shows the allowed ports
[10:10] <eoli3n> state is active ?
[10:10] <eoli3n> test nc commands that i gave you
[10:11] <eoli3n> "Guest14: the port i am sure is not open even after adding the ufw rule", test it
[10:11] <eoli3n> testing a port, is not testing a server
[10:12] <eoli3n> from the client "nc -vz $serverip 22"
[10:12] <Guest14> i am not connected to the server now, i will try it when i go home. thank you
[10:12] <eoli3n> from the client(!)
[10:13] <eoli3n> the one you use to connect with ssh
[10:13] <eoli3n> oh ok, i get it
[10:13] <eoli3n> you're not at home, so you're not trying to connect in a local network
[10:13] <eoli3n> ?
[10:13] <Guest14> yes the problem is i have dynamic public ip at home, i need to make it static first
[10:14] <eoli3n> that's not "local network"
[10:14] <eoli3n> did you open the port on your box
[10:14] <eoli3n> ?
[10:14] <eoli3n> you need to forward port 22 to the local ip of you server
[10:14] <eoli3n> on your router*
[10:16] <Guest14> yes that i did in my home router , port 22 is forwarded to my machine. I would like to know how ports are supposed to get opend, is it from the server itself or the router ?
[10:17] <eoli3n> run the command i gave you
[10:17] <eoli3n> instead of "ssh user@server" use "nc -vz server 22"
[10:19] <eoli3n> a port needs to be 1° forwarded from wanip to local ip, 2° allowed in you host firewall, 3° listened by a ssh server
[10:21] <eoli3n> you should also protect yourself from bruteforce with "fail2ban", just install the package and enable/start the service
[10:21] <eoli3n> 22 port opened directly on internet is honey for attackers
[10:22] <eoli3n> in the sshd_config, you should not "permit-root-login", and allow only key authentication
[10:23] <eoli3n> changing the default port will reduce a lot the number of attack attempts
[10:25] <Guest14> ok thank you
[10:46] <varaindemian> what can I install if I am on Ubuntu 21.04? https://www.fortinet.com/support/product-downloads/linux
[10:47] <varaindemian> I mean I have this option for 20.04 `deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.fortinet.com/repo/6.4/ubuntu/ /bionic multiverse`
[10:47] <varaindemian> but what about 21.04?
[10:48] <_________> openfortivpn maybe
[10:53] <Hanumaan>  I have set /etc/network/interfaces but the ip was not showing with "ip a" after I have done netplan it was showing what does it mean? actually this is in Ubuntu 20.04
[10:58] <Hanumaan> is ifupdown by default installed in Ubuntu-20.04?
[11:02] <varaindemian> anyone?
[11:20] <ogra> varaindemian, apt-cache search fortinet ... that should list a bunch of clients that are already maintained in the archive
[11:20] <wwwi> hello
[11:20] <wwwi> I am improving my linux administration/Ubuntu skills
[11:20] <wwwi> so, I am doing various tasks
[11:21] <wwwi> I created a user, a shared folder, installed an ssh server
[11:21] <wwwi> what else  can I do?
[11:30] <varaindemian> ogra: nothing related to forticlient
[11:32] <tarzeau_> wwwi: install a webserver? add cgi support? give users possibility to use ~/public_html ?
[11:33] <tarzeau_> wwwi: create more users? learn rsync?
[11:33] <ogra> varaindemian, huh ? i doubt they have been dropped since 20,04 ... there are network-manager integrations, an openfortivpn package etc etc if you look in an LTS (20.04) install
[11:34] <varaindemian> ogra: I want the client
[11:35] <ogra> $ apt-cache search fortinet|grep client
[11:35] <ogra> openfortivpn - Fortinet client for PPP+SSL VPN tunnel services
[11:36] <ogra> (or use network-manager-fortisslvpn for desktop integration)
[11:36] <varaindemian> ogra: can I just add `deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.fortinet.com/repo/6.4/ubuntu/ /bionic multiverse` with `/hairsute` instead of `/bionic`?
[11:37] <ogra> varaindemian, no idea, if you trust fortinet enough to give them full root access to your machines ... and if they offer an actual hirsute archive (seems they do not), it migth work
[11:39] <ogra> i'D just go with the packages from the ubuntu archive
[11:39] <varaindemian> ogra: hmm why would i not trust them?
[11:40] <ogra> dunno, i wouldnt give random people full root acces to my machines ...
[11:40] <ogra> but up to you ... though i dont think they even offer builds for non-LTS releases at all ... so this is moot anyway
[11:44] <wwwi> tarzeau_, thank you for the suggestions
[12:34] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:36] <wwwi> hello
[12:36] <wwwi> what is the Public folder about?
[12:37] <tarzeau_> wwwi: people that have $HOME/public_html get automatically a webpage at yoursite/~username
[12:43] <wwwi> tarzeau_, I see, thank you
[12:44] <BadKarma> Hi
[13:04] <watchcatss> hell9
[13:04] <watchcatss> jsjska
[13:38] <letterrip> hi all - any idea why kernel 5.11.0-34 would not detect usb devices but 5.11.0-31 would?
[13:39] <letterrip> also any idea why my usb devices might be getting less power with these kernels vs 4.x series?
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> letterrip: we currently have a lot of bugs regarding 5.11, you might wanna browse around the latest added kernel bugs to see if your issue is amongst them
[13:40] <letterrip> k
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> letterrip: you can also share your dmesg in a pastebin, so volunteers can take a long for you for a deeper investigation
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> *look
[13:40] <letterrip> ok - i didn't see anything obvious in dmesg
[13:40] <letterrip> but I'm fairly ignorant about it :)
[13:41] <letterrip> where is the bug tracker for the kernel located?
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> lemme arrange you a link letterrip
[13:41] <letterrip> ty
[13:42] <letterrip> note that the debian distro has the same issue with the kernel
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> letterrip: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bugs?orderby=importance&start=0
[13:42] <letterrip> so it isn't ubuntu specific (dual booting w bullseye)
[13:43] <lotuspsychje> interesting letterrip
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> bug #1939222 here's a displayport issue over usb bug letterrip but not sure related to yours yet
[13:51] <letterrip> lotuspsychje, seems most similar to this ancient bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1291969
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> yeah but thats an older bug letterrip
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> we need some that are 5.11 specific as in your issue
[13:52] <letterrip> yes - hence my statement of ancient :)
[13:52] <letterrip> I'm guessing it is the same breakage mechanism
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> try to share your dmesg letterrip so volunteers might find something
[13:52] <letterrip> yep
[13:52] <letterrip> will do
[13:52] <letterrip> pretty sure it is a power management issue
[14:33] <shah519> hey hey
[15:22] <noarb> is there a way to exclude files or types from the dash file search? When I enter in "Type to Search" i get a lot of characters (probably a font installation?) that I won't be searching for in the dash
[15:40] <clay> good morning everyone!
[15:43] <ioria> noarb, i guess you have 2 choices : 1) via the System Settings 2)  a gnome extension ( https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/3956/gnome-fuzzy-app-search/ )
[15:54] <noarb> ioria: oh great, I didn't know there was an option for filetype in the system settings. That fixed it!
[15:55] <ioria> ok
[17:16] <szindzeks> hello? does this work?
[17:16] <Mathisen> szindzeks, yep
[17:17] <pavlos> what is "this"?
[17:17] <szindzeks> yay
[17:17] <szindzeks> it's my first time using irc and i didn't know if i connected correctly
[17:17] <pavlos> welcome
[17:19] <szindzeks> i have a problem - i forgot my windows password. i know a how to changing using ubuntu, but the problem is that NTFS volume is mounting in read only mode, because windows is hibernated. I want to either force-mount it to rw mode or to somehow fully shutdown windows. can you help me with some of that?
[17:20] <szindzeks> omg my english is so bad
[17:20] <szindzeks> i know how to change it*
[17:20] <Mathisen> szindzeks, just a tip you dont need linux to reset the password
[17:20] <szindzeks> how can i do that?
[17:20] <leftyfb> szindzeks: that is a Windows issue. You need to boot into Windows and tell it to reboot, TWICE. Do not hibernate it.
[17:21] <leftyfb> Mathisen: feel free to help szindzeks with resetting the password without using ubuntu in #windows
[17:21] <Mathisen> leftyfb, yep
[17:22] <Mathisen> szindzeks, as leftyfb said join #windows and i help you with that
[17:24] <szindzeks> when i type "/join #windows" it joins me to #windows-please-register
[17:24] <leftyfb> !register | szindzeks
[17:27] <TheBigK> is there a good howto out there to recompile a specific kernel module and sign it for secure boot?
[17:36] <EriC^^> SzinDzeks: if you reboot windows instead of shutting down it should properly reboot and not hibernate
[17:36] <EriC^^> SzinDzeks: "ntfsfix /dev/sdxY" can remove hibernation as well
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> TheBigK: we usualy advice to not compile own kernels on ubuntu and use the !mainline kernels for testing purposes, but if you wanna help out on other purposes, perhaps talk to the #ubuntu-kernel guys
[18:17] <pi___> test
[18:17] <pi___> hey!
[18:18] <el> hi, do you have a question for the support channel?
[18:18] <pi___> no, is this the support channel?
[18:18] <ogra> yes, can we help you ?
[18:19] <pi___> i'm sorry where is the chat room
[18:19] <el> it is. you can see what channels are about by doing /topic where you type chats
[18:19] <ogra> there are #ubuntu-offtopic and #ubuntu-discuss
[19:05] <timvisher> Is there any way to debug slow connectivity to apt repositories? I'm assuming there isn't a general problem with that right now?
[19:06] <leftyfb> timvisher: try a different mirror
[19:07] <sarnold> timvisher: you could bust out mtr to the IP addresses that you're contacting and see if you can spot a lossy / slow / route or something similar
[19:08] <timvisher> leftyfb: That's a good idea. Is there IP based rate limiting or anything involved here? Essentially I'm seeing intermittent issues with a building a docker image that does an apt install but I can only reproduce it (intermittently) in CircleCI.
[19:08] <timvisher> (The mirror).
[19:09] <timvisher> I'm also not sure whether it's really apt or something wider. I just observed 50 k/s to install the microk8s snap.
[19:09] <jpmh> I want to communicate between two servers.  Sort of ideally I would have a pipe, where one sits and waits for input from the other.  I would like to avoid writing my own sockets code.  I tried mounting using sshfs and inotifywait but the latter does not get triggered.  Ideas please
[19:11] <leftyfb> timvisher: so now you're saying this is slowness with apt and snap repo's within docker within CircleCI? How is this in any way an issue with ubuntu?
[19:12] <leftyfb> jpmh: communicate for what purpose?
[19:13] <timvisher> leftyfb: I actually don't think it's directly related to ubuntu but how to debug the apt slowness or get more verbose logs about its operations would be.
[19:13] <jpmh> leftyfb: I need another server to receeive information that is provided to the first.  I realize this is a bit vague, but essentially I have used ssh from one to the other and that works well, BUT I would like to avoid the overhead of starting that connection
[19:16] <leftyfb> jpmh: look into rabbitmq
[19:17] <jpmh> leftyfb: TY - will check that out
[19:25] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> hey why ssh server so slow
[19:25] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> I am using putty and it just glitches on xwindows
[19:26] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> it was not doing that before
[19:28] <sarnold> are you tunnelling X through ssh in order to run putty? I'm confused what you're doing..
[19:30] <leftyfb> wtf?  putty, xwindows, ssh?
[19:30] <sarnold> I heard there's a putty that runs on linux
[19:30] <leftyfb> there is
[19:30] <leftyfb> put still
[19:32] <leftyfb> Ronalds_Mazitis_: are you really trying to X forward an application running on an Ubuntu machine to a Windows machine using putty and xwindows(Cygwin)?
[19:33] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> I am trying to use putty on windows to get to ubuntu server
[19:33] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> I was unclear
[19:33] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> it was not lagging
[19:33] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> last time I used it
[19:33] <leftyfb> Ronalds_Mazitis_: why did you mention "glitches on xwindows"?
[19:33] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> forwarding for gui
[19:34] <leftyfb> Ronalds_Mazitis_: are you really trying to X forward an application running on an Ubuntu machine to a Windows machine using putty and xwindows(Cygwin)?
[19:34] <leftyfb> Ronalds_Mazitis_: or are you running putty on Ubuntu?
[19:34] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> dude I am using xming
[19:34] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> it was working perfectly
[19:34] <leftyfb> ok, same idea
[19:34] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> ...
[19:35] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> whatever
[19:35] <leftyfb> Ronalds_Mazitis_: it was running perfectly until ....  ?
[19:35] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> idnk
[19:35] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> it's windows
[19:35] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> it's unpredicatable
[19:35] <leftyfb> !enter | Ronalds_Mazitis_
[19:35] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> yesterday I could not record system sounds on it, because something about this sound card was not the thing that audacity would understand
[19:36] <leftyfb> Ronalds_Mazitis_: ok, sounds like you might be having #windows problems
[19:36] <leftyfb> Ronalds_Mazitis_: I really do not think this is related to openssh
[20:59] <Exa> Hi, when looking at the dependencies for the wireguard package for focal, it seems to depend on either wireguard-dkms or wireguard-modules, but I don't see the kernel packages providing wireguard-modules (or the website misses it).  I have a server with wireguard installed and running, it didn't pull the dkms dependency.  What's configured to do that on the APT side?  Thanks.
[21:04] <sarnold> $ apt-cache show linux-image-generic | grep wireguard-modules
[21:04] <sarnold> Provides: virtualbox-guest-modules (= 6.1.26-dfsg-3~ubuntu1.20.04.1), wireguard-modules (= 1.0.20201112-1~20.04.1), zfs-modules (= 0.8.3-1ubuntu12.12)
[21:05] <sarnold> Exa: ^^ linux-image-generic and maybe two dozen other packages provide it
[21:05] <goddard> who thought it was a good idea to make the same key you enter the grub menu to be the same key that also drops you into the grub command prompt?
[21:05] <goddard> i wanna smack that person
[21:05] <leftyfb> Exa: do you have linux-image-generic-hwe-20.04 installed?
[21:06] <leftyfb> goddard: feel free to file a bug
[21:06] <goddard> leftyfb: with who?
[21:06] <Exa> sarnold: thanks, I see it in dpkg -s linux-image-virtual
[21:06] <leftyfb> !bug | goddard
[21:08] <goddard> leftyfb: that isn't applicable i don't think
[21:08] <leftyfb> goddard: ubuntu-bug grub
[21:08] <goddard> yeah but its not really a bug
[21:08] <goddard> its just a dumb choice
[21:09] <leftyfb> goddard: this is a support channel. Feel free to rant in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:12] <goddard> leftyfb: here https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1943883
[21:38] <ravage> If you boot in bios mode holding shift should work fine to bring up the grub menu
[21:43] <BinarySavior> i booted my laptop into safe mode, enabled networking, it worked, then i booted back into desktop and now my wifi card is not detected
[21:52] <BinarySavior> if i type sudo lshw -c network it shows my card but the first line says *-network UNCLAIMED
[21:52] <BinarySavior> i've tried running ubuntu-drivers install
[21:58] <genii> Find the vendor:device code by running either lsusb, which will show it without special switches, or  lspci -nn   ... the code is the part of the output which looks like 168c:002b   .. once you know the vendor:device  it will help to find out exactly what device it is and what driver it should use
[22:07] <Hash> Is there a reason i am using chromium instead of chrome?
[22:07] <Hash> Chromium is so ridiculous it crashes if you try to upload a file, image, try to link bank to your other site, literally everything makes it crash, I don't mean a tab, like the whole browser just disappears from desktop.
[22:08] <Hash> So infuriating.
[22:08] <Hash> Is there a reliable web browser in Ubuntu I can use that doesn't randomly crash? I'm very angry right now and perhaps I should go do something else. Ugh. In the meantime, I need stability in Ubuntu.
[22:09] <Hash> 20.04 has not proven to be stable. Randomly things just crash and I lose data.
[22:09] <leftyfb> Hash: work with people here to troubleshoot your chromium issue or use firefox or chrome. Pretty sure you already knew this answer though
[22:11] <Hash> Chromium is a snap package, not an ubuntu package. I just discovered
[22:12] <Hash> leftyfb: I've researched this issue and many people have it and no one has ever found a fix. Ever.
[22:12] <Hash> People just give up and move to a diff browser.
[22:12] <leftyfb> Hash: I've been using google chrome for years without issue
[22:12] <Hash> I'm not just telling you here in frustration the first time it happens.
[22:13] <Hash> If it happens once. Ok, might have been a fluke. Happens twice, sure, I could still be imagnining things. If it happens countless times, it's not me.
[22:13] <Hash> once again, chromium is not chrome.
[22:13] <leftyfb> Hash: ok, then use chrome
[22:14] <Hash> Is it packaged for ubuntu?
[22:14] <Guest37__> akaWolf а чо я на ру заюанен?
[22:14] <Hash> Do I get it from google instead?
[22:14] <leftyfb> Hash: you get google chrome from http://google.com/chrome
[22:14] <leftyfb> !ru | TomFarr
[22:15] <TomFarr> ubottu I understand it but some thing going wrong. I'm banned
[22:15] <TomFarr> and don't know why
[22:15] <leftyfb> TomFarr: you are banned from #ubuntu-ru ?
[22:16] <TomFarr> Yeah...
[22:16] <TomFarr> but i dont understand why
[22:16] <leftyfb> TomFarr: feel free to ask for help in #libera
[22:16] <Hash> Alright
[22:17] <Hash> So, I have chromium -> google-chrome in .config
[22:18] <Hash> Interesting.
[22:18] <Hash> So when I tried to try out the chromium browser (which i've beeno n for like a year or more now)
[22:18] <Hash> I made a symlink from chromium to my chrome dir
[22:18] <leftyfb> don't
[22:18] <Hash> So now if I just install chrome again, I think it will pick it up
[22:18] <leftyfb> Hash: start fresh
[22:18] <Hash> Oh no no no.
[22:18] <leftyfb> export bookmarks if you need to
[22:19] <Hash> Then i'd rather just deal with chromium's crashing and use chrome for what doesn't crash.
[22:19] <Hash> I can't go through logging in dozens of 2FA in another browser
[22:19] <Hash> That's just entirely too painful.
[22:20] <leftyfb> Hash: one of the major benefits of google chrome over chromium is being able to sync all of that with google online. I can wipe all of ~/.config/google-chrome, start chrome, login to google and get everything back
[22:21] <Hash> Oh yeah that's helpful and sync'd too, but things don't just xfer. Sites will require you to sign in again.
[22:21] <Hash> Cookies, logged in data, noone of that goes along with sync.
[22:21] <Hash> Only credentials.
[22:22] <Hash> No, you cannot share cookies across web browsers. At present, there are no services that synchronizes cookies just like how bookmarks are synchronized.
[22:23] <Hash> Oh that was a quote from a googly site.
[22:23] <leftyfb> Hash: good luck
[22:23] <Hash> Thanks man
[22:46] <BinarySavior> if i want to back up my home directory but exclude recursively all projects/[project name]/venv dirs how can i do that
[22:50] <BinarySavior> it might be better to use exclude-tag-all and just place a tag file in all directories where i dont want to back up
[22:51] <Bashing-om> BinarySavior: Take a loog at ' man rsync ' - My use case ' sudo mount /dev/sdb6 /mnt/look/ ; rsync -aiv --exclude=".*" --exclude uwn /home/sysop/ /mnt/look/files/ ; sudo umount /mnt/look/ ' .
[22:51] <Bashing-om> look*
[22:54] <Bashing-om> BinarySavior: ^ if ya have a lot to exclude - rsync can read a external exludes file.
[23:32] <arooni> hi everyone;  after a restart will an app installed via flatpak get picked up on the launcher?
[23:32] <leftyfb> !flatpak | arooni
[23:32] <leftyfb> arooni: flatpak isn't officially supported on ubuntu
[23:33] <matsaman> I wouldn't think even something as silly as flatpak would require a full restart, for any purpose
[23:33] <arooni> :oh sad face
[23:33] <coz_> flatpak rules but not on ubunru %(
[23:33] <sarnold> I wouldn't be surprised if you have to drag an icon from one place to another
[23:33] <matsaman> lawl
[23:34] <sarnold> there's only so much space on a launcher, right?
[23:35] <coz_> arooni, yes as sarnold mentioned, it "should" be listed in the menu after logoff/logon, not sure with ubuntu
[23:37] <coz_> I will have to try this on my ubuntu ssd to see how flatpak functions
[23:38] <matsaman> probably just killing/restarting the launcher would suffice, then
[23:46] <arooni> i hate every pomodoro app i've tried on ubuntu so far
[23:46] <arooni> anyone have any suggestions?
[23:47] <matsaman> what's a pomodoro app?
[23:47] <arooni> gnome-pomodoro has bugs and can't remember sessions;  matsaman : a tool for helping one focus; the idea is to work 25 minutes or 50 or x at a time
[23:47] <arooni> for deep work ; with no distractions; and you dont get to count it unless you were able to complete the time without distraction
[23:48] <matsaman> does it just tell you when to stop doing "deep work" and when to start again?
[23:56] <[itchyjunk]> Hi i had a bit of a convoluted question. I waned to install "qemu riscv". The instruction i am following said `sudo apt-get install qemu` should do it. i did `sudo apt install qemu` but `qemu-system-riscv*` doesn't exist for me. (i've asked in #qemu and waited 8 hours). Do you think i need to download tar and make it myself?
[23:58] <sarnold> [itchyjunk]: try installing qemu-system-misc
[23:58] <sarnold> [itchyjunk]: the apt-cache show qemu-system-misc  output looks promising
[23:58] <[itchyjunk]> ah! will try thanks!