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mwhudsonthere is a bunch of ubiquity code that talks about language-support-$LL packages02:00
mwhudsonwhen did they stop being a thing?02:01
mwhudsonhuh i guess https://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/language-support-en/ suggests 2009!02:01
sarnoldall the datestamps on the directories on http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/ suggests maybe 2016 instead02:03
sarnoldis there a reason we don't reap the empty directories on the mirrors?02:03
mwhudsonah that's when they got deleted https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-support-en/+publishinghistory02:04
mwhudsonlast upload was karmic though02:04
mwhudsoni guess they got deleted from archive.ubuntu.com when lucid went EOL?02:05
sarnold"Deleted on 2011-05-26 by Martin Pitt" "Removed from disk on 2016-10-31"  heh02:06
mwhudsonANYWAY02:09
mwhudsonlong dead02:09
sigvif there is a package versioned 5.0.0-4 (directly pulled from Debian) and I want to get it SRU'd in Focal based on a bug - what should the new version number be?06:27
sigv5.0.0-4ubuntu1 or 5.0.0-4.1 or something else is preferred?06:27
sigvBionic is back on 4.6.1-1 so there is not reason for putting the 20.04 in the version for the SRU, I would assume.06:28
Unit193teward: Any updates on those two simple pastebinit commits? :)07:35
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ddstreetmapreri teward i set 'expires' for all of us in the ubuntu-backports team, and it's self-renew once the expires date arrives, i figured neither of you would mind that11:55
tewardUnit193: Its Simon's Fault?12:15
tewardddstreet: ack alls good12:16
jawn-smithbdmurray: good morning. mwhudson uploaded golang-1.17 with the risc-v shared library patches and it successfully made it into -release overnight14:34
bdmurrayginggs: Have you looked at the hwloc ppc64el autopkgtest failure closely?14:58
slyonddstreet: what do you think about https://pad.lv/1943982 (also see attached MP to revert the change in Focal and unblock the phased updates)? I'll be working on integrating the additional relevant patches into Hirsute next.15:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1943982 in systemd (Ubuntu Focal) "Revert resolved-disable-event-sources-before-unreffing-them.patch" [Undecided, New]15:00
ginggsbdmurray: I have not, I only triggered the test in release to confirm it wasn't a regression caused by nvidia-settings15:07
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bdmurrayginggs: ack, thanks15:13
jawn-smithShould we aim to get Go 1.17 in the impish beta?17:32
jawn-smithwell, golang-defaults 1.17 that is17:33
bdmurrayjawn-smith: what does "in the impish beta" mean to you?17:36
jawn-smithbdmurray: It was my understanding we were building beta images next week. So by "in the impish beta" I meant golang-defaults 1.17 in -release when those images are built17:38
bdmurrayjawn-smith: but is golang-defaults in those images?17:38
jawn-smithAh good question17:39
jawn-smithI'll check, but I think you're right that it's not17:39
jawn-smithbdmurray: you are correct, it's not in the images.17:41
bdmurrayjawn-smith: out of curiousity how did you check?17:41
jawn-smithI conveniently have both a desktop and server image that I flashed to Pis yesterday and haven't touched17:42
jawn-smithI checked if it was installed on them. So not an exhaustive check. Is there a better way to check that?17:43
bdmurrayyou might want to check out seeded-in-ubuntu17:43
jawn-smithAh I've used that for MIRs17:43
jawn-smithIt says golang-defaults is seeded in ubuntu-mate17:44
jawn-smithor more specifically: golang-go and golang-src (which are provided by golang-defaults) are seeded in ubuntu-mate17:44
bdmurrayit doesn't seem to be on the images though http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mate/daily-live/current/17:45
jawn-smithSo I'm no longer worried about getting golang-defaults uploaded quickly, but I'm curious why it would be seeded in ubuntu-mate but not present in the images?17:48
bdmurray'The minimal, boot, standard, desktop, and either ship or live seeds go onto our CDs and the supported packages are available from the FTP site.'17:49
bdmurrayhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeedManagement17:49
jawn-smithcool, thanks! I'll give it a read17:49
jawn-smithah yeah it's seeded in ubuntu-mate (supported). Very informative, thanks again!17:51
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jawn-smithI've identified a couple of packages that should be removed from both Debian and Ubuntu. They are leaf packages that don't provide any binaries.19:38
jawn-smithI know the process for requesting a package removal in Ubuntu, but haven't come across this situation yet where it needs to be removed from Debian as well19:39
jawn-smithShould I just create the bug requesting removal in both the Debian BTS and LP?19:39
bdmurrayjawn-smith: the removal that we'd do in Ubuntu is temporary the package would get auto imported during JJ's development19:44
jawn-smithbdmurray: it gets auto imported from Debian right?19:45
bdmurrayyes at the start of the development cycle19:46
jawn-smithSince it's also a leaf package in Debian it should just be removed there as well, right?19:46
bdmurrayautoimported up to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebianImportFreeze19:47
dbungertjawn-smith: are these packages going to want control file changes?19:47
bdmurrayWhy are you asking for its removal? Would the same reason apply to Debian?19:48
jawn-smithbdmurray: I am asking for removal because the package is a leaf that provides no binaries, and FTBFS with Go 1.1719:48
jawn-smithDebian is not on Go 1.17 yet, so they are not seeing FTBFS issues with this package19:49
bdmurraySo then it seems to me there isn't a reason to remove it from Debian19:50
jawn-smithOkay great, I'll just request the removal in Ubuntu then. Thanks bdmurray19:50
jawn-smithand dbungert: No control changes needed, the packages just FTBFS and aren't needed to build any other packages19:51
dbungertI wonder if they are meant to be someone else's build dependency.  Not a reason to keep it for impish though, especially if jj will just reimport it.19:52
jawn-smithYes that's exactly what they are. There are quite a few go packages that just provide source code used to build other packages. Some of them no longer have reverse-dependencies though'19:57
bdmurraywell you might check to see if there is already a removal request for the package in debian20:02
jawn-smithbdmurray: there are not removal requests in Debian for the packages that I'm looking at20:09
bdmurrayjawn-smith: okay, if there were then we'd probably also want to add them to the sync blacklist20:09
jawn-smithThat makes sense. Thanks for answering all these questions20:10
bdmurrayno problem20:11
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