[07:21] <lordievader> Good morning
[10:20] <jamespage> cpaelzer: thanks for picking up that OpenStack related MIR review
[15:59] <TJ-> ogra: do you have a reference for the ifupdown deprecation? I was asked about that yesterday and couldn't find it, only the one for Debian net-tools from around 2008
[16:00] <ogra> TJ-, theer is a debian wikipage from 2011 ... but that also does not actively point to any announcement 
[16:01] <ogra> https://wiki.debian.org/NetToolsDeprecation
[16:01] <TJ-> ogra: yeah, that's the one for net-tools but I cannot find any /Debian/ reference of deprecating ifupdown. I know there was one for Ubuntu 
[16:02] <ogra> ( that is rather for the package transition coordination i think)
[16:05] <oerheks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MigratingToNetplan
[16:15] <ogra> TJ-, well, ifupdown has ifconfig as a hard dependency, you can not really tell them apart ... and i actually found the upstream announcement of the deprecation https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/03/msg00780.html
[16:19] <TJ-> ogra: yes, I saw that, but surely that is just net-tools and not ifupdown? That just covers replacing various net-tools commands with iproute2 and so on
[16:20] <TJ-> it gets confusing since ifupdown was replaced by the python version ifupdown2