[01:28] <Endermen1094> how can i fix having two unalicated spats on kde partition manager
[01:33] <Endermen1094> i am trying to expand a different os-s partision size but it seams that i am unable to do that
[01:34] <Endermen1094> *spots
[01:42] <endermen1094> How can I fix two unallocated partitions on the same drive
[03:23] <guiverc> endermen1094, you can only expand a partition using space that is next-to the partition you want to expand (partitions need to be contiguous) ; ie. movement maybe required, you cannot be using the partition to move/expand etc - so boot live media first
[06:42] <Maxwellcrafter> Hello
[06:43] <Maxwellcrafter> Anyone on?
 Hi there
 I m fairly new to Linux, been using Windows since my childhood.
 I have started learning programming mainly Python and most of the people suggested me to move to Linux and asked me to check Kubuntu since it is beginners friendly.
 I have a netbook with Intel Atom, 2GB RAM and 32GB emcc, it came with Windows 10 pre-installed, and it is performing horrible.
 My question is, if this netbook can handle Kubuntu?
 Yes it will, your CPU is a little slow so don't expect amazing performance. Kubuntu 20 04 has a footprint of around 600MB, but that will increase when using apps, including browser. One trick you can use is to increase the swap space, reach out here for advice on that if you need it.
 How to increase swap space in a pre installed kubuntu (re @Rick_Timmis: Yes it will, your CPU is a little slow so don't expect amazing performance. Kubuntu 20 04 has a footprint of around 600MB, but that will increase when using apps, including browser. One trick you can use is to increase the swap space, reach out here for advice on that if you need it.)
 Yes you do it by switch of swap, make bigger swap file, switch swap on. Google is your friend, plenty of examples on Ubuntu forum
 @Rick_Timmis thanks for your reply
 I tried installing Kubuntu last night with manual partitioning and assigned around 2GB SWAP but right at the end of OS installation process it gave me an error, I dont exactly remember the error but it has something to do with some EFI file
[07:59] <TJ-> zeeshanmazhari: for such a low-resourced device you'd be better off trying with Lubuntu or Xubuntu which don't need such powerful GPUs (often a problem with GUI desktop environments)
 My netbook BIOS is 32bitso after I created my bootable Kubuntu USB, I pasted bootia32.efi inside BOOT/EFI
[08:06] <TJ-> zeeshanmazhari: ahhh, you'd need to put that file in the correct location, and also a copy renamed to something else! For the removable media path it'd be "/EFI/BOOT/BOOTIA32.EFI" but for the installed system that was hopefully added into the firmware's menu, you'd need a copy of it at /EFI/ubuntu/grubia32.efi" - when installing, and before rebooting, installing "grub-efi-ia32" package is a way to
[08:07] <TJ-> fix that
 Hi, I am using the latest backport of plasma and when I wake up my PC from sleep, it ejects DVD burner.
 I'm not sure if someone without it finds this funny, but it's not funny
 😂😂😂 (re @ksenchy: Hi, I am using the latest backport of plasma and when I wake up my PC from sleep, it ejects DVD burner.
 I'm not sure if someone without it finds this funny, but it's not funny)
 I understood the first part wherein the correct location is EFI/BOOT here the file bootia32.efi name has to be in capital or lower case would work also?
 The 2nd part of your message, where you said to copy grub, I don't get it. Can you please elaborate for me
[08:16] <alkisg> zeeshanmazhari, are you booted from a live usb now?
 Yes I have booted from live USB, it has bootia32.efi file inside EFI/BOOT folder. I am able to properly boot into Kubuntu but at the time of installation it is giving me error something like efi, I don't exactly remember
 Ah, you might need to change a setting in your BIOS set it to legacy, I think...
[08:19] <alkisg> Is this Kubuntu 18.04 32bit?
 The BIOS doesn't have suck option. It has a very basic BIOS settings. I only had an option to disable secure boot which I already did
 Nope. Kubuntu 20.04 64bit (re @IrcsomeBot: <alkisg> Is this Kubuntu 18.04 32bit?)
[08:21] <alkisg> That's not a good option if you only have 2 GB RAM. Use a 32bit OS
 Which one do you suggest?
 Considering my netbook has 32bit efi bios and no option for legacy. I tried Puppy and MX last night but none of them detected my wifi card
[08:24] <alkisg> Debian Bullseye KDE or Kubuntu 18.04 32bit should be fine
[08:25] <alkisg> You may need the nonfree firmware for your card
[08:28] <alkisg> zeeshanmazhari, is your wifi card detected in kubuntu 20.04?
[08:30] <alkisg> (note that kubuntu 18.04 is not receiving security updates anymore for its GUI, but oh well with 2 GB RAM you'll need to make some compromises; debian bullseye is properly supported though)
[08:36] <alkisg> Debian Bullseye KDE 32bit + Konsole => 420 MB RAM in use after login
 Yes, Kubuntu is detecting my card properly.
 How about Xubuntu or Lubuntu but both of them are 64bit. I have tried Debian installation once and it was not user friendly that is why I would like to avoid (re @IrcsomeBot: <alkisg> zeeshanmazhari, is your wifi card detected in kubuntu 20.04?)
[08:39] <alkisg> zeeshanmazhari, a 32bit browser would be able to open e.g. 4 tabs, an 64bit browser would open 2 tabs
[08:39] <alkisg> It's not about the base OS, it's about the apps, they need more RAM when the pointers and the integers are 64bit
[08:40] <alkisg> kubuntu/xubuntu/lubuntu/mate are about the same, give or take 50MB RAM; while 32bit vs 64bit is a whole lot bigger difference
[08:40] <alkisg> I think currently, it's lubuntu < kubuntu < xubuntu < mate, in terms of initial RAM usage
[08:41] <alkisg> But that quickly changes when you launch a browser, as the browser will load more libraries, wasting almost equal ram in lubuntu as well, making the initial difference moot
[08:42] <alkisg> (and, lubuntu doesn't implement some important stuff, e.g. it doesn't even provide logout inhibitors)
[08:42] <alkisg> I'd go with debian/bullseye/kde/32bit if I were you, and I'd take an hour or so to set it up properly even if the installer seems more difficult
 Can you please point me to the URL where I can download Debian ISO, the one which I am trying is downloading some netinst which is merely 377mb (re @IrcsomeBot: <alkisg> (and, lubuntu doesn't implement some important stuff, e.g. it doesn't even provide logout inhibitors))
[08:44] <alkisg> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/11.0.0-live+nonfree/i386/iso-hybrid/
[08:44] <alkisg> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/11.0.0-live+nonfree/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-11.0.0-i386-kde+nonfree.iso
 Do you think it will boot onto my 32bit efi bios? (re @IrcsomeBot: <alkisg> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/11.0.0-live+nonfree/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-11.0.0-i386-kde+nonfree.iso)
[08:48] <alkisg> zeeshanmazhari, before rebooting, check which module your wifi adapter is using, to know what to search for. If it's in the pci bus, the command would be: lspci -nn -k | grep -iA3 wireless, while if it's in the usb bus you'd need lsusb instead
[08:48] <alkisg> zeeshanmazhari, I've never had a 32bit uefi device, if you said you did manage to boot debian at least once, I imagine this will also work
[08:50] <alkisg> You may ask in #debian if you want, I guess someone there has tested a 32bit uefi device...
 I will try tonight and will post the results here
[08:52] <alkisg> 👍️
 Thanks for your time (re @IrcsomeBot: <alkisg> You may ask in #debian if you want, I guess someone there has tested a 32bit uefi device...)
[08:53] <user|35> Hi guys
 I dont have a working system since I tried installing Kubuntu and removed the hard disk (re @IrcsomeBot: <alkisg> zeeshanmazhari, before rebooting, check which module your wifi adapter is using, to know what to search for. If it's in the pci bus, the command would be: lspci -nn -k | grep -iA3 wireless, while if it's in the usb bus you'd need lsusb instead)
[09:06] <alkisg> Ah OK I thought it was working in the liveusb as well
 Oh yes. i can do that.
 lspci -nn -k | grep -iA3 wireless
 This is the command to check, right? (re @IrcsomeBot: <alkisg> Ah OK I thought it was working in the liveusb as well)
[09:28] <alkisg> zeeshanmazhari, IF the device is attached to the pci bus, then you need lspci, while if it's attached in the usb bus, you need lsusb
[09:28] <alkisg> Test it and let us know
 So if pci then the command will be
 lspci -nn -k | grep -iA3 wireless
 And if it is usb then command will be
 lsusb -nn -k | grep -iA3 wireless (re @IrcsomeBot: <alkisg> zeeshanmazhari, IF the device is attached to the pci bus, then you need lspci, while if it's attached in the usb bus, you need lsusb)
[09:34] <alkisg> No, lsusb doesn't accept the same options as lspci
[12:51] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:39] <R13ose> When I try to open Dolphin not shows up.  I tried in command line and got this error "kf.dbusaddons: DBus session bus not found. To circumvent this problem try the following command (with bash): export $(dbus-launch)"  How do I fix this?
[13:53] <BluesKaj> R13ose, dbus-launcg dolphin, sudo is not needed
[13:54] <BluesKaj> err launch
[13:55] <R13ose> Yes but how do I get this to work without terminal?
[13:59] <TJ-> R13ose: most like the user session is missing the DBUS environment variables
[13:59] <alkisg> The question is why your panel doesn't have the DBUS_SESSION_BUS variable set. In your terminal, what's the output of: env|grep DBUS
[14:00] <R13ose> Here is the output https://termbin.com/nfik
[14:04] <R13ose> alkisg: ^
[14:05] <alkisg> R13ose: and yet if you run dolphin from that terminal where DBUS *is* set, it complains?
[14:06] <alkisg> What happens if you run `dbus-launch xterm`, and then you try to launch dolphin from inside that xterm?
[14:06] <alkisg> And if it runs there, what's the output of env | grep DBUS, there?
[14:06] <R13ose> If I run the command dolphin gives me that error.  If I run dbus-launch dolphin that works.  I want to launch the app from the app launcher.
[14:08] <alkisg> See my last 2 sentences too
[14:08] <R13ose> Using the command dolphin works in xterm
[14:08] <R13ose> The output in xterm is https://termbin.com/u72f
[14:09] <alkisg> So it runs on a new dbus, but not on your existing dbus. Hmm, does that always happen, or is just your dbus hanged currently, and if you logout or reboot, it'll work?
[14:12] <R13ose> Most likely if I logout or reboot this might work again but I don't want to do either if possible.
[14:13] <alkisg> And you want to change the launcher to permanently start a new dbus, even if the problem will be solved after reboot?
[14:14] <alkisg> dbus is the program that lets applications communicate with one another, and provide services to other apps
[14:14] <alkisg> Usually we don't ever need to start a new dbus
[14:15] <R13ose> Yes, if possible.  If this isn't possible, I will logout first and see if that works and if not, I will reboot.
[14:25] <R13ose> I fixed the problem by rebooting
[14:25] <R13ose> Thanks for the help
[14:28] <alkisg> np, it was the right decision :)
[15:06] <trollygon> g
[15:07] <Mekaneck> trollygon: welcome, if you have a Kubuntu support question just ask, offtopic talk is in #kubuntu-offtopic
[15:08] <trollygon> I'm new on this, how do I get all the channels? Is there a command for it?
[15:09] <Mekaneck> ask over at #libera on how to get a channel list
[15:09] <TPOSE> okies
[15:09] <oerheks> depends on the client you are using, join #libera for chat help?
[15:16] <TPOSE> I'm using Konversation, it comes with Trinity desktop environment
[15:16] <TPOSE> It came with Q4OS, but I'm using ubuntu, as I installed Trinity over it
[15:16] <TPOSE> and bam
[15:16] <TPOSE> kmail, kopete and konversation show up
[15:17] <TPOSE> Trinity looks like a legit OS from early 2000s, thats why I like it, too bad Q4OS doesnt really work well
[15:18] <TPOSE> so I put it over a more popular linux distro
[19:52] <clancy> hell out