| Swift110-mobile | sup all | 01:02 |
|---|---|---|
| thowilwin0 | i have know idea what im doing | 01:58 |
| thowilwin0 | hello | 01:58 |
| Bashing-om | thowilwin0: Ubuntu-support; you have a question ? | 01:59 |
| thowilwin0 | im trying to see how hexchat works | 02:00 |
| Swift110-mobile | oh ok | 03:27 |
| QuickBASIC | Is there a linux cmdline utility that allows you to monitor a log (like tail -f), but attaches to an existing .socket, so you can pass stdin to the running program? Right now I'm just using tail in screen and using echo "command" > /run/programname.stdin in another screen, but it's not great | 03:33 |
| === scoobydoo_ is now known as scoobydoo | ||
| DarkTrick | is bazaar (svn client) not supported anymore? while bzr is in the repos bzr-gtk is not - and bazaar's PPAs seem to be invalid | 05:46 |
| === cacti is now known as ice | ||
| alkisg | QuickBASIC: do you mean `mkfifo`? Can you elaborate? | 06:31 |
| lotuspsychje | DarkTrick: maybe its related to gtk3 they dont support the package anymore? | 06:50 |
| DarkTrick | lotuspsychje, is gtk3 not supported anymore? | 06:51 |
| lotuspsychje | well not sure hows the deal exactly, but i heared some devs talk about gtk and the future | 06:51 |
| alkisg | Eh most people only use bzr for legacy branches, while all their new versions have already been converted to git... | 06:54 |
| alkisg | So maybe there's no interest anymore in maintaining a GUI version | 06:54 |
| lotuspsychje | that might indeed be a more sane explain alkisg : ) | 06:55 |
| alkisg | 👍️ | 06:55 |
| Dax2050 | Hi | 07:29 |
| lotuspsychje | welcome Dax2050 | 07:30 |
| Dax2050 | Thank you | 07:30 |
| lotuspsychje | how can we help you today Dax2050 | 07:30 |
| === greknod29 is now known as greknod2 | ||
| Guest13 | hello | 11:41 |
| Guest13 | i have an idea for nautilus | 11:41 |
| lotuspsychje | Guest13: come to #ubuntu-discuss please | 11:45 |
| mundelj | hello my friends | 11:46 |
| mundelj | jupiter126: hello my friend | 11:48 |
| mundelj | how are you today? | 11:48 |
| mundelj | shored: hi | 11:49 |
| mundelj | how are you today my friend? | 11:49 |
| lotuspsychje | !chat | mundelj | 11:49 |
| ubottu | mundelj: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 11:49 |
| mundelj | lotuspsychje: hi | 11:49 |
| mundelj | lotuspsychje: how are you today? | 11:50 |
| Mekaneck | mundelj: this got you banned in the other channels in the first place so stop it | 11:53 |
| mundelj | Mekaneck: stop talking? | 11:53 |
| Mekaneck | as said this is a support channel, please move over to #ubuntu-offtopic for casual talk and nonsense | 11:54 |
| Mekaneck | mundelj: if you don't have a support ubuntu question then yes | 11:54 |
| mundelj | stevecam: ooooooooooooo my friend. hi, how are you? going to drink some beer today? | 11:54 |
| Mekaneck | mundelj: cut the crap | 11:54 |
| mundelj | Mekaneck: i am simply talking with my friend | 11:54 |
| Mekaneck | !ops | 11:54 |
| mundelj | nothing criminal | 11:54 |
| ubottu | Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, chu | 11:54 |
| mundelj | is it a crime? | 11:55 |
| Mekaneck | mundelj: stop it now | 11:55 |
| stevecam | dont reply to him | 11:55 |
| stevecam | !ops | 11:55 |
| ubottu | Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, chu | 11:55 |
| Mekaneck | move over to offtopic | 11:55 |
| mundelj | p0indexter: hi my friend. how are you?? I am good. thanks | 11:55 |
| mundelj | volki57: oooooooo long time, long time my friend | 11:56 |
| mundelj | where you been? | 11:56 |
| gartt | mundelj: There's a line between being friendly and being annoying on purpose | 11:57 |
| Mekaneck | trolling behaviour isn't acceptable | 11:57 |
| TJ- | mundelj: don't start in here; you've been disruptive in #linux and #hamradio and been banned as a result. No off-topic chat here, support questions only. | 11:58 |
| mundelj | gartt: i am friendly | 11:58 |
| mundelj | see. i am asking my friends how they are | 11:58 |
| gartt | Although the ignore feature works just as well as ops for trolling | 11:58 |
| Mekaneck | mundelj: you've been reported to the libera staff since you can't seem to quit | 11:58 |
| mundelj | delki8: how are you today? | 11:58 |
| TJ- | mundelj: /join #ubuntu-offtopic for that; no chat in this channel | 11:58 |
| stevecam | mundelj, want to take it all to private message if you leave the channels alone, i dont think you mean any harm but it does ruin the environment | 11:58 |
| mundelj | Mekaneck: please call 911 also | 11:59 |
| Mekaneck | troll | 11:59 |
| mundelj | report them | 11:59 |
| mundelj | and call ministry of defence | 11:59 |
| stevecam | mundelj, PM? | 12:00 |
| Mekaneck | sigh.. ignore it is. Bye bye... | 12:00 |
| mundelj | what else you can do? only reporting.. so sad.. | 12:00 |
| mundelj | stevecam: what is PM? | 12:00 |
| mundelj | TJ-: i was banned on linux and hamradio for nothing | 12:01 |
| mundelj | just for talking to people | 12:01 |
| gartt | You were banned for acting like this and spewing nonsense that crowded the channel buffer for no good reason | 12:01 |
| Mekaneck | mundelj: you've been banned for the same reason as you pull off here, now move on please to offtopic | 12:02 |
| Mekaneck | you're filling the channel with cruft which we don't need | 12:02 |
| stevecam | to be fair the channel could employ more moderators | 12:02 |
| gartt | Or fewer, but with better time coordination | 12:03 |
| Mekaneck | there are enough moderators but in the wrong timezone i guess | 12:03 |
| mundelj | stevecam: i can do moderator job | 12:03 |
| mundelj | but unfortunately unable to do it for free... | 12:04 |
| mundelj | $15 per hour will be acceptable | 12:04 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 12:51 |
| mundelj | BluesKaj: hello | 12:54 |
| mundelj | how are you today, my dear friend? | 12:55 |
| * PCatinean facepalms | 12:55 | |
| Mekaneck | mundelj: we asked you to stop it a couple of times. Go troll elsewhere. | 12:55 |
| mundelj | my friends, please ignore such trolls as Mekaneck | 12:57 |
| BluesKaj | mundelj, do you have an ubuntu support question? | 12:57 |
| Mekaneck | he doesn't | 12:57 |
| mundelj | BluesKaj: i am going to ubuntu-offtopic now | 12:58 |
| BluesKaj | just making it clear that this is not a general social chat | 12:58 |
| mundelj | BluesKaj: how are you anyway? | 12:58 |
| TJ- | BluesKaj: already known | 12:58 |
| atharv | i need a gelp | 12:59 |
| atharv | help* | 12:59 |
| TJ- | don't we all!? | 12:59 |
| atharv | there is a file on my desktop i cant delete | 12:59 |
| atharv | its name is brave.desktop.ICG690 | 12:59 |
| atharv | this file is undeletable | 12:59 |
| TJ- | atharv: how was it created? what user is it owned by? "ls -latr $HOME/Desktop/" | 13:00 |
| atharv | TJ-, i am the one and only user and it was automatically created when i installed brave browser from software boutique | 13:00 |
| TJ- | atharv: so maybe it is owned by root | 13:01 |
| TJ- | atharv: show us, in a pastebin, the results of the command I gave | 13:01 |
| TJ- | !paste | atharv | 13:01 |
| ubottu | atharv: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 13:01 |
| atharv | you mean termbin.com can i use | 13:01 |
| atharv | https://termbin.com/4se8 | 13:03 |
| atharv | TJ-, ?? | 13:04 |
| atharv | ubottu, | 13:04 |
| atharv | ? | 13:04 |
| atharv | anyone | 13:04 |
| TJ- | atharv: there is no file names "brave.desktop.ICG690" there, only "brave.desktop" | 13:04 |
| atharv | TJ-, it is, i could send a screenshot? | 13:06 |
| TJ- | atharv: you're probably seeing the Name= set inside brave.desktop | 13:07 |
| gartt | Allie: mundelj | 13:07 |
| Allie | gartt: hm? | 13:08 |
| mundelj | gartt: why pinging me? | 13:08 |
| mundelj | do you have ubuntu related question? | 13:08 |
| gartt | Allie: Ah, I assume you were here due to a complaint about mundelj | 13:08 |
| Allie | What seems to be the issue? | 13:09 |
| gartt | Crowding the channel buffer with trolling after repeated requests from multiple people here to knock it off. I don't mind ignoring, but when it's a screenfull of garbage for others in a support channel.. | 13:10 |
| Allie | do we have any active channel ops about? | 13:11 |
| gartt | Negative | 13:11 |
| Mekaneck | pinged the libera staff too, some are around but didn't give a response yet gartt | 13:13 |
| Allie | Mekaneck: I'm *right here*. | 13:13 |
| Mekaneck | oh, sorry, didn't know | 13:13 |
| Mekaneck | he's also very annoying in #ubuntu-offtopic Allie | 13:14 |
| TJ- | Allie: to keep this channel clear, -discuss to get some background, if you want | 13:14 |
| Allie | TJ-: ah, hello! yes, that sounds good to me :) | 13:14 |
| Simplar | how to kill a process in ubuntu? | 13:39 |
| TJ- | Simplar: depends on what process and which user owns it | 13:40 |
| R13ose | When I try to open Dolphin not shows up. I tried in command line and got this error "kf.dbusaddons: DBus session bus not found. To circumvent this problem try the following command (with bash): export $(dbus-launch)" How do I fix this? | 13:44 |
| oerheks | R13ose, remove or rename ~/.config/dolphinrc and try again? | 13:48 |
| R13ose | Okay | 13:49 |
| alkisg | R13ose: how are you launching it, via ssh? | 13:55 |
| R13ose | from the app launcher and since that isn't working, I'm trying terminal. | 13:56 |
| alkisg | Which desktop environment, ubuntu gnome? | 13:57 |
| alkisg | Ah nvm you're already troubleshooting this in #kubuntu | 13:58 |
| R13ose | Yep :) | 13:59 |
| quangthang | Hello! | 14:24 |
| R13ose | My issue is fixed by rebooting | 14:25 |
| quangthang | I'm having a problem. I was using Debian and just switched to Ubuntu. Since Ubuntu 20 uses netplan by default. Can any here help me to config it | 14:25 |
| quangthang | I already have interfaces file, how I convert to netplan config file? | 14:26 |
| leftyfb | quangthang: desktop or server? | 14:26 |
| quangthang | server | 14:26 |
| leftyfb | quangthang: https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-bionic-netplan | 14:26 |
| leftyfb | quangthang: https://netplan.io/examples/ | 14:27 |
| quangthang | I already read several guide. However, I still can't figure it out. In netplan configuration file, how do I add pointopoint and netmask as in interfaces file? | 14:28 |
| leftyfb | pointopoint? | 14:29 |
| leftyfb | the netmask is specified by the CIDR now | 14:30 |
| quangthang | @leftyfb thank you, I ran across this post: https://docs.hetzner.com/robot/dedicated-server/network/net-config-debian-ubuntu/. As I said, I've added those routes lines; but I still don't haev internet connection | 14:39 |
| quangthang | Is there any way to debug network configuration? | 14:39 |
| leftyfb | quangthang: https://netplan.io/troubleshooting/ | 14:40 |
| leftyfb | quangthang: look at logs | 14:40 |
| leftyfb | quangthang: you could also paste your config into a yaml validator | 14:41 |
| leftyfb | quangthang: the spacing in the config file is very important | 14:43 |
| quangthang | If I were indentation issue, I would've received a warning after running netplan apply, right? | 14:44 |
| oerheks | netplan try | 14:45 |
| quangthang | I also notice that there are two netplan configuration files, one is 01-netcfg.yaml which I'm editing, another is 01-network-manager-all.yaml | 14:46 |
| leftyfb | quangthang: delete one of them | 14:46 |
| ioria | quangthang, if you have that file, it means that you installed a DE (gnome3, probably )on a server edition and the two configs conflict | 14:48 |
| ioria | quangthang, ps -A | grep -i net should report NM running | 14:49 |
| quangthang | ioria, yes, you're right, I've a DE on my server | 14:49 |
| ioria | quangthang, so you just use NM, period | 14:49 |
| ioria | quangthang, i suggest you backup 01-netcfg.yaml and 8probably) disable cloud-init | 14:50 |
| quangthang | SO, I should keep second file and not the netcfg file? | 14:51 |
| ioria | quangthang, you have NM, use NM | 14:51 |
| leftyfb | quangthang: you should use network manager | 14:51 |
| leftyfb | quangthang: can I ask, if this is a server, why do you have a DE installed and running? | 14:52 |
| FragtioN | hi all. i created a bridge and gave it a /32 IP, but that IP doesn't appear in the 'ip route' table so it's not propagating to ospf peers. any pointers on what I'm missing please? I don't want to create the route manually with a script as that seems like a very unelegant workaround | 14:54 |
| quangthang | leftyfb I intend to use it as a remote workstation @leftyfb | 14:54 |
| leftyfb | quangthang: ok, then use network manager to manage your network | 14:54 |
| === kirk781 is now known as bklshp | ||
| quangthang | leftyfb: in network manager, there's no option that I can edit pointopoint like in debian config | 15:00 |
| === bklshp is now known as kirk781 | ||
| quangthang | If it helps, I said I was using Ubuntu. But actually, I'm using Elementary OS. I just think that it's based on Ubuntu so it should be the same | 15:02 |
| Mekaneck | quangthang: Elementary OS is a different distro and doesn't belong here at all, | 15:03 |
| Mekaneck | you should seek for support at their end | 15:03 |
| quangthang | Okay. Thank you all. Guess I'll stay with Debian | 15:03 |
| oerheks | first server,t han desktop elementary ... | 15:03 |
| oerheks | volunteer abuse, it is | 15:03 |
| quangthang | I have no mean of abusing. I just thought it based on Ubuntu so it should be the same | 15:04 |
| Mekaneck | no it isn't | 15:04 |
| quangthang | I'm sorry, no more question | 15:04 |
| ioria | quangthang, run 'nm-connection-editor' | 15:06 |
| ioria | quangthang, what you need exactly dsl/ppoe' or a ptp tunnel ? | 15:06 |
| Mekaneck | ioria: they are gone and it was about Elementary OS which isn't supported here | 15:06 |
| ioria | i see | 15:07 |
| mundelj | ) | 15:07 |
| mundelj | khe eh khee, excuse me | 15:08 |
| Allie | mundelj: yeah, no thank you. | 15:08 |
| dust | wayland-egl is that missing in repo? | 15:22 |
| oerheks | !find wayland-egl | 15:23 |
| ubottu | Found: libwayland-egl-backend-dev, libwayland-egl1, libwayland-egl++0, libwayland-egl1-mesa | 15:23 |
| oerheks | sudo apt install libwayland-egl++0 libwayland-egl1-mesa libwayland-egl1 ## from https://askubuntu.com/questions/1335754/how-to-install-missing-plug-in-wayland-egl | 15:24 |
| === Ricardus_ is now known as Ricardus | ||
| Hash | Chromium in Ubuntu is the most unstable browser. | 16:04 |
| Hash | *sigh* I'm really just about to start crying. | 16:04 |
| Hash | I'm very seriously | 16:04 |
| Hash | Again the browser just crashed and now I have login to a bunch of sites again, 2FA, browser crashes, just disappears, and now I hav eto login to everything again. WTF | 16:05 |
| Hash | Why? | 16:05 |
| Hash | Every since they made web browsers free, every single has has been trash. | 16:06 |
| Hash | Haven't seen a decent browser since Netscape Nagivator Gold 3.0 | 16:06 |
| Hash | I would happily pay for a web browser if it was stable and didn't crash and didint' give me stupid problems. | 16:07 |
| oerheks | chromium is a dragon to maintain | 16:09 |
| oerheks | PITA also | 16:09 |
| Hash | Right now | 16:09 |
| Hash | I just need a hug. | 16:09 |
| Hash | I am soooooo just... ughn/ | 16:09 |
| alkisg | Hash: is that chromium snap? Try the original google chrome.deb one... | 16:12 |
| Hash | I don't use non free software | 16:12 |
| Hash | Which is why I'm wondering why the hell am I on ubuntu to begin with> | 16:12 |
| Hash | Seriously questioning my life choices right now. | 16:12 |
| Hash | Very seriously. | 16:12 |
| alkisg | Eh, I can't imagine you actually browse the web without non-free software :D | 16:13 |
| alkisg | No microcode, no firmware, nothing? | 16:13 |
| alkisg | It's a good choice, sure, but... I wonder how feasible it is for desktop users | 16:13 |
| Hash | *sigh* | 16:13 |
| Hash | I'm not looking for a nonsense argument. | 16:13 |
| * alkisg uses firefox, btw | 16:13 | |
| Hash | Have a good day. | 16:13 |
| alkisg | You too | 16:14 |
| alkisg | But I mean it as, google-chrome is as free as the other things you're probably using.It's not a closed source browser | 16:14 |
| Hash | It closed. It's not open. Chromium is open. Google chrome is a closed browser based on chromium open source. | 16:14 |
| Hash | With custom google thingies and trackers and etc. | 16:15 |
| alkisg | While snaps have problems on their own; that's why I suggested using a deb instead | 16:15 |
| alkisg | Even if it's any of the other chrome-based ones | 16:15 |
| Hash | Google Chrome is a closed source web browser based on Chromium. | 16:15 |
| Hash | Please, do not advise people to use closed source software in a FOSS community | 16:15 |
| Hash | That dose a disservice to us all who are collaborting on and bulding free software. | 16:15 |
| alkisg | If you not want that advice, do ignore it. But several ubuntu users do use google chrome, even if I'm not one of them | 16:16 |
| Hash | It also tracks people, monitors them, and spies on them. | 16:16 |
| alkisg | I've been developing floss for 30 years now | 16:16 |
| alkisg | I've done my part in contributing stuff | 16:16 |
| alkisg | But I'm not a floss chauvinist | 16:16 |
| gartt | Hash: There are a million and one linux distros out there, and also great BSD OSes. Nobody's trying to sell you anything here :) | 16:16 |
| Mekaneck | mind taking it to #ubuntu-discuss since it's not a ubuntu support question related thing? | 16:17 |
| oerheks | gartt, it is not about distro, but browser | 16:17 |
| === diskin_ is now known as diskin | ||
| gartt | There's always Firefox or many others | 16:17 |
| Hash | Hash | Right now, I just need a hug. | 16:17 |
| gartt | oerheks: Sure, but I was responding to his ubuntu comment | 16:17 |
| leftyfb | Hash: this isn't the place for it. Do you have an ubuntu support question? | 16:18 |
| Hash | Yet, you folks thought it was more appropriate to hassle someone who is already super frustrated. | 16:18 |
| Hash | Wow. | 16:18 |
| Hash | Such 'Ubuntu' Humanity in #ubuntu. | 16:18 |
| Hash | <3 | 16:18 |
| Hash | Good job. | 16:18 |
| leftyfb | Hash: this isn't the place for it. Do you have an ubuntu support question? | 16:18 |
| gartt | Hash: Well, he's right. He's not being mean | 16:18 |
| Mekaneck | it's typical for Hash to react that way leftyfb | 16:18 |
| Hash | I'm just commending you on othe amazing job you did at being 'Ubuntu' Humanity. | 16:18 |
| Hash | Carry on. | 16:18 |
| Mekaneck | and i asked kindly to take the conversation to -discuss by the way :) | 16:19 |
| gartt | Hash: If you go to Burger King and start talking about your life choices while you're at the line to order and they tell you deal with that at the appropriate places, are you going ot rant about how they lack humanity? | 16:19 |
| Hash | Mekaneck | it's typical for Hash to react that way leftyfb <- and engaged in slander and tried to make soeone look bad. | 16:20 |
| leftyfb | !ot | gartt | 16:20 |
| ubottu | gartt: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 16:20 |
| Hash | Perhaps try to be more productive and helpful instead. | 16:20 |
| dzwdz | how big should /boot be? i thought that 256m would be plenty but it was at 100% immediately after installation | 16:20 |
| Mekaneck | and another one added to the ignore list, great | 16:20 |
| leftyfb | Hash: use firefox. Let us know if you have any technical issues with it. Or if you'd like to troubleshoot your chromium issues without adding in personal feelings about it | 16:20 |
| ThinkT510 | dzwdz: that is quite tiny | 16:20 |
| Lumpio- | Just get a non snap chromium Hash | 16:21 |
| Hash | leftyfb: either of the two is fine with me. | 16:21 |
| leftyfb | dzwdz: I typically give it a couple gigs these days | 16:21 |
| Lumpio- | I'm thinking of going back to that too because the snap one always breaks | 16:21 |
| alkisg | dzwdz: if you can spare it, use 1 GB. You need at least 300 for 3 initramfs+vmlinuz, and some for grub | 16:21 |
| Hash | Lumpio-: I'm thinking that very seriously | 16:21 |
| leftyfb | Lumpio-: there is no supported .deb for chromium | 16:21 |
| Lumpio- | You can get one fairly easily from Debian's repositories, which still have a real .deb package as opposed to a fake one. | 16:21 |
| leftyfb | Lumpio-: that isn't supported or recommended here | 16:21 |
| Hash | The snap is absolute trash. I'm just sick of it. Firefox is the only remaining one I can try. I'm not left with many options for quality browsers. | 16:21 |
| leftyfb | Hash: please stop | 16:22 |
| Hash | What? | 16:22 |
| Lumpio- | leftyfb: Too bad for you | 16:22 |
| dzwdz | would half a gig be enough? | 16:22 |
| Hash | Now I can't even reply to a person about the snap and firefox? | 16:22 |
| alkisg | dzwdz: if you regularly purge old kernels, yes | 16:22 |
| ThinkT510 | dzwdz: are you really constrained for space? | 16:22 |
| leftyfb | Hash: use firefox or ask for help with chromium. | 16:22 |
| Lumpio- | If somebody either fixes snap or reinstates a real chromium .deb in ubuntu I'll stop recommending that | 16:22 |
| alkisg | (and you only have 1 distro) | 16:22 |
| Hash | I'm going to leave. | 16:22 |
| Hash | I don't feel welcome here, thanks leftyfb | 16:22 |
| dzwdz | ThinkT510: i'm just going to be dualbooting another distro, and i want to give it as much space as i can | 16:22 |
| Lumpio- | Yeah great job leftyfb | 16:23 |
| ogra | Hash, sudo snap set system experimental.refresh-app-awareness=true | 16:23 |
| alkisg | dzwdz: same /boot for both distros? | 16:23 |
| dzwdz | nope | 16:23 |
| ogra | Hash, that will stop chromium from crashing | 16:23 |
| ogra | (it will stop allowing it to upgrade in the background while it is running) | 16:23 |
| Hash | Ubuntu is an ancient African word meaning 'humanity to others'. <-- anytime you'd like to show some, that'd be fantastic. *afk* | 16:23 |
| dzwdz | wait, was that a question or suggestion | 16:23 |
| ThinkT510 | dzwdz: /boot is actually optional so you could just assign / and /boot will take up only what it needs | 16:23 |
| dzwdz | i want to encrypt / though | 16:24 |
| Lumpio- | ogra: ...is that what's happening? | 16:24 |
| alkisg | dzwdz: if you're going to have a common /boot for both distros, do give it 1 GB | 16:24 |
| ogra | Lumpio-, most likely, yeah | 16:24 |
| Lumpio- | Because I distinctively notice it sometimes working but then randomly stopping, my working theory was that it was upgrading in the background in a way that doesn't work but never confirmed it | 16:24 |
| leftyfb | dzwdz: the answer to your question is, give it 2Gb if you can, if not, get as close to that as you can and see how far you get | 16:24 |
| Lumpio- | Like for instance it just randomly forgets some fonts exist | 16:24 |
| Lumpio- | Or that context menus shouldn't freeze a process when opened | 16:24 |
| cbreak_ | I'd recommend firefox | 16:25 |
| cbreak_ | but I noticed that sometimes, it just refuses to open new tabs. Claiming "that tab crashed", requiring a restart | 16:25 |
| ogra | Lumpio-, well, not sure abut these bits, but it will definitely affect crashing ans session saving to enable that snap option | 16:25 |
| ogra | s/ans/and/ | 16:25 |
| cbreak_ | this doesn't happen with firefox on macos, but it happens with several firefoxes on several ubuntus I've tried | 16:25 |
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| dzwdz | how big is /boot on your current installs? | 16:26 |
| dzwdz | as in how much is actually used up? | 16:26 |
| alkisg | cbreak_: is that when it was updated and you didn't close it / restart it? | 16:26 |
| cbreak | I suspect updates to be a problem, yes | 16:26 |
| dzwdz | because 2gb seems like a LOT | 16:26 |
| cbreak | but unlike on macos, updates on ubuntu aren't firefox-controlled | 16:26 |
| leftyfb | dzwdz: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/yphyQW95Fy/ | 16:27 |
| Hash | God forbig someone be human and go through a bit of frustration when everything crashes, you lose your tabs and all your work. No, I have to be a robot, show no emotion, or feeling, or frustration. Humanity to others. What a bloody joke. | 16:27 |
| leftyfb | dzwdz: looks like I actually did ~700M on mine. You should be good | 16:27 |
| dzwdz | leftyfb: ty | 16:27 |
| dzwdz | oh hey, i was planning to make mine 700m too | 16:27 |
| dzwdz | that's a nice coincidence | 16:27 |
| cbreak | my /boot is 2GB | 16:28 |
| cbreak | I've found it to be too small often | 16:28 |
| cbreak | I think this is caused by ubuntu's zsys thingie not purging snapshots after cleaning up kernels | 16:29 |
| cbreak | so I had to go in a few times and manually destroying them | 16:29 |
| cbreak | (you probably don't have this exact problem unless you also use a zpool for /boot) | 16:29 |
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| pi0 | https://i.imgur.com/YF4f94E.png how do obtain this crash report without submitting it | 18:40 |
| alkisg | ls /var/crash => they're there | 18:47 |
| pi0 | ah thank you!! | 18:56 |
| vitus` | Hey guys! Can anyone help me get an unofficial debian app running on (Garuda) Arch Linux? | 19:33 |
| Dax2051 | Hi. | 19:33 |
| vitus` | hey there! | 19:33 |
| Dax2051 | Hi Vitus. | 19:34 |
| vitus` | do you have an idea how to install this package on arch linux: https://www.sciebo.de/install/linux/download/ | 19:35 |
| vitus` | i have somehow managed to get a trusted key but do not know how to download it | 19:36 |
| Dax2051 | I can't install quake game on ubuntu. Please help. | 19:37 |
| ioria | vitus`, correct me: the key is for the repo; the repo would use apt ; you don't have apt; how do you think you can download/install it ? | 19:39 |
| vitus` | i did not know this, I am a complete beginner | 19:41 |
| alkisg | I think you should ask this in #archlinux, not in #ubuntu, for example https://www.maketecheasier.com/install-deb-package-in-arch-linux/ says you can use "debtap" to convert a .deb into an archlinux package | 19:41 |
| Dax2051 | I'll try. Thank you Vitus. | 19:41 |
| vitus` | I have seen this post online: https://archived.forum.manjaro.org/t/solved-install-a-program-from-another-repository/155603 | 19:41 |
| vitus` | it contains a link to a tutorial how to convert .deb packages to arch linux packages, but the app I just posted is not in the debian repository, so I am completely overwhelmed | 19:42 |
| ioria | vitus`, if the source is available, maybe your bes bet is pkgbuild | 19:43 |
| ioria | *best | 19:43 |
| alkisg | vitus`: the packages are there, you can download them: https://www.sciebo.de/install/linux/Ubuntu_21.04/ | 19:43 |
| alkisg | You don't need a key or apt to download them, you can use a browser | 19:44 |
| ioria | dpkg works on arch ? didn't know that | 19:45 |
| vitus` | so what do I do exactly? download every file in the directory you sent me, and then? | 19:45 |
| alkisg | No not all of them. They seem to target different file managers | 19:48 |
| alkisg | So if you use kde, you'd download the one that says dolphin, etc | 19:48 |
| alkisg | But you'd need to know which ones you want | 19:49 |
| vitus` | yes, I use KDE and my file manager is Dolphin | 19:49 |
| vitus` | i have downloaded the packages, what do I do now? | 19:49 |
| alkisg | Now you ask in #archlinux for the rest | 19:50 |
| alkisg | debtap sound like a good bet | 19:50 |
| vitus` | okay, great! thank you guys :) | 19:51 |
| alkisg | 👍️ | 19:51 |
| obby | hey guys | 20:25 |
| obby | anyone available to try and help me with a boot issue | 20:25 |
| obby | i have a ubuntu desktop 20.04 that i use as a server and i cleared the cmos cuz the gpu wouldnt post, fixed the gpu but it cleared my EFI boot options | 20:25 |
| obby | so now everytime i boot it goes into grub (didnt before) and then gives me option to boot into ubuntu but it fails, i just tried to make a new fstab with properly mounted luks drives and generate a new grub-mkconfig with the proper cryptsetup hook but it still wont work | 20:26 |
| obby | before it would immediately boot into a Ubuntu themed menu and do the cryptsetup immediately, any help | 20:27 |
| toddc | obby: I recall I had to point uefi bios to the efi bootloader | 20:28 |
| obby | I shouldnt be trying with GRUB at all is what youre saying? | 20:29 |
| obby | toddc: ? | 20:29 |
| toddc | obby: 1 sec looking for notes | 20:29 |
| obby | thanks | 20:32 |
| toddc | obby: I cannot find it but bios need to point to ubuntu efi grub since you cleard cmos the bios need to be able to find it | 20:33 |
| obby | hmmmmm | 20:34 |
| obby | frick im not sure how id do it | 20:34 |
| TJ- | obby: just saw your question in #linux | 20:34 |
| TJ- | obby: you say the system boots to GRUB still? is that to the GRUB menu ? | 20:35 |
| toddc | how set efi bios path varis by bios oem you can also try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair | 20:36 |
| TJ- | toddc: hold off please; this is my particular area of expertise (can do this stuff in my sleep!) :) | 20:36 |
| TJ- | obby: still there? | 20:37 |
| obby | hi sorry | 20:38 |
| obby | i was checking the system | 20:38 |
| obby | the system previously did not boot to grub or if it did it didnt show the menu | 20:38 |
| TJ- | obby: OK ... I might be able to help you bootstrap into it if you can answer a few questions | 20:38 |
| TJ- | obby: yes, that would be expected behaviour if previous boots were good - it hides the menu! | 20:38 |
| obby | /dev/sda5 is boot partition /dev/sda6 is a LUKS | 20:38 |
| TJ- | obby: so you see the menu now, and there is an "Advanced..." sub-menu with recovery options on it? Have you tried any of those recovery options and do they fail the same way if so? | 20:39 |
| TJ- | obby: right now are you on IRC from the problem PC using a LiveISO, or another PC? | 20:40 |
| obby | uhh | 20:40 |
| obby | I havent tried using the other options | 20:40 |
| obby | I am on IRC from my desktop computer | 20:40 |
| obby | I am using the problem pc from a arch linux live boot iso usb | 20:41 |
| TJ- | obby: OK, good, let's see if we can do a repair. Can you get on IRC from the arch liveISO as well? so I can give you commands you can copy/paste, and collect info easily? | 20:42 |
| obby | yea i can | 20:43 |
| obby | i just tried the other options and they didnt work | 20:44 |
| obby | but i am going to try and get on irc on it now | 20:44 |
| TJ- | obby: great! | 20:45 |
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| obby_ubuntu | hi im here | 20:47 |
| obby_ubuntu | i dont think ill be able to copy paste but i can use like curl or something to send command outputs to a pastebin site | 20:48 |
| obby_ubuntu | TJ-: | 20:48 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: OK what client are you using? | 20:49 |
| obby_ubuntu | irssi | 20:51 |
| obby_ubuntu | i dont have a x server running tho just like tty | 20:51 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: "sudo -i" then let's start with " (lsblk; blkid ) | nc termbin.com 9999 " | 20:51 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: you could ssh into that system from your desktop | 20:52 |
| obby_ubuntu | tbh probably ill see if i can now | 20:52 |
| obby_ubuntu | termbin.com/jnin | 20:56 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: is that from within a chroot? | 20:58 |
| obby_ubuntu | yes i cant boot into real ubuntu | 20:58 |
| obby_ubuntu | i can leave chroot tho | 20:58 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: I know, just need to be clear. First thing we need do is ... | 20:58 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: ... give the LUKS container device-mapper the same name it has in /etc/crypttab | 20:59 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: so you might need to exit chroot and unmount everything to do that | 20:59 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: if we don't do this, the various tools will get very confused and it won't repair cleanly | 20:59 |
| obby_ubuntu | it says sda6_crypt | 20:59 |
| obby_ubuntu | where do i put that name | 20:59 |
| obby_ubuntu | in cryptsetup? | 21:00 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: currently you've called it "luks" | 21:00 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: where have you mounted the chroot? what path? | 21:00 |
| obby_ubuntu | the vgubuntu-root is mounted on /mnt and /dev/sda5 is mounted on /mnt/boot | 21:01 |
| obby_ubuntu | and swapon the vgubuntu-swap | 21:01 |
| obby_ubuntu | do u think if i grub-mkconfig with the proper name sda6_crypt instead of LUKS it would fix? | 21:02 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: ok, so "umount --recursive --lazy /mnt/" should unmount everything from there | 21:02 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: do that, then check "mount | grep mnt" ... if that's empty then "cryptsetup close luks" | 21:02 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: I usually follow the debian-installer pattern and call the mount-point /target/ so I'd do "mkdir /target; cryptsetup open /dev/sda6 sda6_crypt; mount /dev/mapper/sda6_crypt /target; chroot /target mount -a; chroot /target grub-install -v |& tee /tmp/grub-install.log; chroot /target update-grub" | 21:04 |
| obby_ubuntu | it refusing to close the luks | 21:04 |
| obby_ubuntu | even tho i cant find anywhere its still mounted | 21:04 |
| obby_ubuntu | i did swapoff for the swap part | 21:04 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: so you have something open from within it, or a shell still in a directory under /mnt | 21:05 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: does "mount | grep mnt" report anything? | 21:05 |
| root_ | it refusing to close it | 21:06 |
| root_ | ima reboot | 21:06 |
| root_ | back | 21:07 |
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| TJ- | root_: OK not opened the LUKS yet I hope! | 21:07 |
| obby_ubuntu | oh i just reopened it now with the proper name | 21:09 |
| obby_ubuntu | and remounted everything do u want me to close it | 21:09 |
| obby_ubuntu | i did it to /target too | 21:10 |
| TJ- | no, if you've got it with the correct name | 21:10 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: this is the usual sequence I do | 21:10 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: I usually follow the debian-installer pattern and call the mount-point /target/ so I'd do "mkdir /target; cryptsetup open /dev/sda6 sda6_crypt; mount /dev/mapper/sda6_crypt /target; chroot /target mount -a; chroot /target grub-install -v |& tee /tmp/grub-install.log; chroot /target update-grub" | 21:10 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: if all that completes, pastebin the /tmp/grub-install.log | 21:11 |
| obby_ubuntu | uhhh okay | 21:11 |
| obby_ubuntu | ive done all the mounting and cryptsetup stuff properly | 21:11 |
| obby_ubuntu | so ill go to the chroot mount -a part | 21:11 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: oh hang on, I missed a bit ! | 21:13 |
| obby_ubuntu | uhhh | 21:13 |
| obby_ubuntu | i was gonna say | 21:13 |
| obby_ubuntu | i dont think the grub install part is right | 21:13 |
| obby_ubuntu | and im not sure what mount -a did | 21:13 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: need to do "mount -t proc proc /target/proc; mount -t devtmpfs udev /target/dev; mount -t devpts devpts /target/dev/pts; mount -t sysfs sysfs /target/sys" | 21:14 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: sorry about that! THEN you can continue with "mount -a" (-a == --all and mounts all 'auto' entries from the fstab) | 21:14 |
| obby_ubuntu | its failing to run grub-install | 21:18 |
| obby_ubuntu | no such command | 21:18 |
| obby_ubuntu | if i try to chroot into /target without a command it says sys already mounted | 21:18 |
| obby_ubuntu | o nvm | 21:18 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: errrr that sounds .... weird ! | 21:19 |
| obby_ubuntu | what is the point of the tee tmp grub install | 21:19 |
| obby_ubuntu | what is the grub-install -v supposed to do | 21:19 |
| obby_ubuntu | because grub-install -v fails | 21:19 |
| obby_ubuntu | error: Cannot find EFI directory | 21:20 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: that means your fstab doesn't have an entry for the EFI-SP, or it is broken | 21:20 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: so now we diagnose and fix! | 21:20 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: from outside the chroot: "cat /target/etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999" | 21:21 |
| obby_ubuntu | my fstab only has the vgubuntu-root as /, vgubuntu-swap as swap and then /boot as /dev/sda5 | 21:21 |
| obby_ubuntu | but ya i will | 21:21 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: this looks like the EFI system partition: /dev/sda1: UUID="C676-9018" TYPE="vfat" | 21:22 |
| obby_ubuntu | termbin.com/n6r38 | 21:23 |
| obby_ubuntu | yea sda1 is 512m | 21:23 |
| obby_ubuntu | probably efi boot part | 21:23 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: ok, we now fix it | 21:23 |
| obby_ubuntu | where should i mount it | 21:23 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: "mkdir /target/boot/efi" | 21:23 |
| obby_ubuntu | exists | 21:23 |
| obby_ubuntu | if i mount /dev/sda1 to /target/boot/efi its empty | 21:24 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: " echo 'UUID=C676-9018 /boot/efi auto umask=0077 0 1' >> /target/etc/fstab " | 21:25 |
| obby_ubuntu | termbin.com/4jri | 21:26 |
| obby_ubuntu | will thAT WORK | 21:26 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: after that "umount /dev/sda1" then ensure it can be mounted from fstab with "chroot /target mount -a" and check "mount | grep efi" | 21:26 |
| obby_ubuntu | or change it | 21:26 |
| obby_ubuntu | i just used genfstab | 21:26 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: it'll mount; whether the options are appropriate is another matter! | 21:27 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: so ensure it will mount from fstab as I said | 21:28 |
| obby_ubuntu | okay sure | 21:28 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: if so, then "chroot /target grub-install -v |& tee /tmp/grub-install.log" | 21:28 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: then paste the /tmp/grub-install.log when it finishes | 21:28 |
| obby_ubuntu | i think it worked | 21:29 |
| leftyfb | !rootirc | obby_ubuntu | 21:29 |
| ubottu | obby_ubuntu: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet. | 21:29 |
| obby_ubuntu | ill try | 21:29 |
| obby_ubuntu | im on live usb | 21:29 |
| leftyfb | ah, ok :) | 21:29 |
| obby_ubuntu | thanks | 21:30 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: "cat /tmp/grub-install.log | nc termbin.com 9999" | 21:30 |
| TJ- | IRCing as root is a bloody good idea!!# | 21:30 |
| obby_ubuntu | well i ran grub-install -v and it did a bunch of lines then it quit saying installation completed successfully but i did it without the pipe | 21:32 |
| obby_ubuntu | do uw ant me to run again with pipe to show u the log | 21:32 |
| obby_ubuntu | or u think its good | 21:32 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: I want to see the log | 21:32 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: "cat /tmp/grub-install.log | nc termbin.com 9999" | 21:32 |
| obby_ubuntu | ok sec ill run it again with the pipe | 21:32 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: I wish you'd follow my instructions! I don't give these exact commands for fun! | 21:33 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: I know what to expect; if you deviate, you may cause something else to happen, and then we waste lots of time trying to figure out what happened | 21:33 |
| obby_ubuntu | termbin.com/x4q32 | 21:34 |
| TJ- | thank you | 21:34 |
| obby_ubuntu | i cant follow ur exact commands | 21:34 |
| obby_ubuntu | im not on a debian usb or ubuntu usb | 21:34 |
| obby_ubuntu | i have to actually chroot and stuff | 21:34 |
| TJ- | this looks good: | 21:34 |
| TJ- | mkimage --directory '/usr/lib/grub/x86_64-efi' --prefix '/grub' --output '/boot/grub/x86_64-efi/core.efi' --dtb '' --format 'x86_64-efi' --compression 'auto' --config '/boot/grub/x86_64-efi/load.cfg' 'ext2' 'part_msdos' 'search_fs_uuid' | 21:34 |
| obby_ubuntu | nor can i cp so its a total pain | 21:34 |
| obby_ubuntu | sorry | 21:34 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: that grub-mkimage looks good | 21:35 |
| obby_ubuntu | should i run grub-update / mkconfig u think | 21:35 |
| obby_ubuntu | ? | 21:35 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: but this doesn't 2/usr/sbin/grub-install: warning: EFI variables are not supported on this system." | 21:35 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: looks like you also don't have the efivars file-system added | 21:35 |
| obby_ubuntu | i think i have a cryptsetup hook in my /etc/default/grub | 21:35 |
| obby_ubuntu | do i have to mount that as well/ | 21:35 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: if you do, then you have /boot/ encrpyted as well. Hang on a mo | 21:36 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: no, you won't have (or should't have) GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y in /etc/default/grub | 21:36 |
| obby_ubuntu | I just used ubuntu gui luks setup for this and i dont think that does /boot | 21:37 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: your /dev/sda5 is an unencrypted ext4 for /boot/ | 21:37 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: correct | 21:37 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: but now we need to fix the efivars issue | 21:37 |
| obby_ubuntu | in /etc/default/grub i just added cryptsetup:/dev/sda6:luks to the GRUB_DEFAULT_LINUX_CMD_LINE or whatever | 21:38 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: "mount -t efivars efivars /target/sys/firmware/efi/efivars " | 21:38 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: that isn't necessary on Ubuntu; cryptsetup-initramfs takes care of that | 21:39 |
| obby_ubuntu | hmm okay ill remove it | 21:39 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: once you've mounted the efivars, redo "chroot /target grub-install -v |& tee /tmp/grub-install.log" | 21:39 |
| obby_ubuntu | unknown filesystem efi-vars | 21:40 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: then check the last 10 or so lines and pastebin them: "tail -n 15 /tmp/grub-install.log | nc termbin.com 9999" | 21:40 |
| obby_ubuntu | oops efivars* | 21:40 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: there is no - in there :) | 21:40 |
| obby_ubuntu | yea my b it doesnt have one | 21:40 |
| obby_ubuntu | triple checked none of them have - | 21:41 |
| obby_ubuntu | but get error | 21:41 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: what's the error? | 21:41 |
| obby_ubuntu | do u think this arch usb doesnt support it maybe?\ | 21:41 |
| obby_ubuntu | no such filesystem efivars | 21:41 |
| obby_ubuntu | Unknown filesystem type efivars | 21:42 |
| obby_ubuntu | * | 21:42 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: you did boot this rescue LiveISO in UEFI mode? | 21:42 |
| obby_ubuntu | i believe so | 21:42 |
| obby_ubuntu | is there a way to check | 21:42 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: I think the kernel can help: "journalctl -k | grep efi:" | 21:42 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: I see 3 lines, one of which is "kernel: efi: seeding entropy pool" | 21:43 |
| obby_ubuntu | my actual looks like | 21:43 |
| obby_ubuntu | EFI v2.4.0 | 21:43 |
| obby_ubuntu | one line says | 21:43 |
| obby_ubuntu | my actual /sys efi-vars thing is populated | 21:44 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: you mean /sys/firmware/efi/efivars (outside the chroot) ? | 21:44 |
| obby_ubuntu | yea | 21:44 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: did you correct mount sysfs into /target/sys/ ? check with "mount | grep target/sys" form outside the chroot | 21:45 |
| obby_ubuntu | sysfs on /target/sys | 21:45 |
| obby_ubuntu | it says | 21:45 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: good. | 21:45 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: and does "mount | grep efivars" report anything about it being mounted at /sys/firmware/efi/efivars ? | 21:46 |
| TJ- | this is outside the chroot of course? | 21:46 |
| obby_ubuntu | type | 21:46 |
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| obby_ubuntu | yea outside of chroot | 21:46 |
| obby_ubuntu | i think the chroot PATH is broken if it matters | 21:47 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: something like "efivarfs on /sys/firmware/efi/efivars type efivarfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)" | 21:47 |
| obby_ubuntu | even tho im not inside it right now | 21:47 |
| obby_ubuntu | yea exactly | 21:47 |
| obby_ubuntu | elivarfs on | 21:47 |
| obby_ubuntu | /sys/firmware whatevfer | 21:47 |
| obby_ubuntu | elivarfs | 21:47 |
| obby_ubuntu | maybe thats the name | 21:47 |
| obby_ubuntu | ? | 21:47 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: then we'll simply bind-mount it. "mount --bind /sys/firmware/efi/efivars /target/sys/firmware/efi/efivars" | 21:47 |
| obby_ubuntu | if i change the name from efivars | 21:48 |
| obby_ubuntu | to evivarfs | 21:48 |
| obby_ubuntu | it mounts properly | 21:48 |
| obby_ubuntu | with ur original commabnd | 21:48 |
| TJ- | "evivarfs" ? | 21:48 |
| obby_ubuntu | es | 21:48 |
| obby_ubuntu | yes | 21:48 |
| obby_ubuntu | oops | 21:49 |
| obby_ubuntu | i mean | 21:49 |
| obby_ubuntu | efi | 21:49 |
| obby_ubuntu | but ya | 21:49 |
| obby_ubuntu | not evi | 21:49 |
| DeeJay2 | Hi | 21:49 |
| TJ- | ahh, efivarfs | 21:49 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: yes! my typo in the command, sorry, missed the 'fs' on the end | 21:49 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: should have been: "mount -t efivarfs efivarfs /target/sys/firmware/efi/efivars " | 21:50 |
| Swift110-mobile | hey all | 21:50 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: glad we figured that out :P | 21:50 |
| obby_ubuntu | termbin.com/n76a | 21:51 |
| obby_ubuntu | does that look good now? | 21:51 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: "/usr/sbin/grub-install: info: setting EFI variable Boot0000." looks good | 21:51 |
| obby_ubuntu | thanks a lot for ur time TJ- it really means a lot to me if u have a crypto address like btc or preferably eth or something id be happy to send something | 21:51 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: so now "chroot /target update-grub" | 21:51 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: then reboot and test and tell us it works! | 21:52 |
| obby_ubuntu | my chroot $PATH is broken | 21:53 |
| obby_ubuntu | what should a proper default $PATH be? | 21:53 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: for the root UID 0 user? | 21:53 |
| obby_ubuntu | i did export PATH=/usr/sbin and grub-update was able to find grub-mkconfig but now it says 'basename not found' when i run grub update | 21:53 |
| obby_ubuntu | ya | 21:54 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: "/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/snap/bin" | 21:54 |
| obby_ubuntu | fun life for me i get to type that out | 21:54 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: if it is broken then you should fix that now, before reboot! | 21:54 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: that should be in /etc/environment | 21:55 |
| obby_ubuntu | im afarid to reboot | 21:58 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: :D | 21:59 |
| obby_ubuntu | grub-update looks like it ran properly | 21:59 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: if it listed the installed kernels it did | 21:59 |
| obby_ubuntu | lool inb4 i reboot and its still broken | 22:00 |
| obby_ubuntu | going to have a mental breakdance | 22:00 |
| obby_ubuntu | brb checking | 22:00 |
| obby | hate my life | 22:02 |
| obby | looks like it booted better then before but not right | 22:02 |
| obby | still doesnt even ask me for my luks key | 22:02 |
| obby | i forgot to remove the thing from /etc/default/grub so im gonna try to manually remove the cryptsetup hook from grub.cfg i guess | 22:03 |
| obby | sigh | 22:03 |
| TJ- | obby: well that wouldn't help for sure; maybe you also broke the regular cryptsetup-initramfs support and we need to to fix that? | 22:06 |
| TJ- | obby: did it boot to kernel then fail and drop to a busybox shell prompt? | 22:07 |
| obby | it wont go to a shell | 22:07 |
| obby | it shows a bunch of kernel module information | 22:07 |
| obby | and then just freezes | 22:07 |
| obby | a lot of info about the amd drivers at the bottom | 22:07 |
| TJ- | obby: try tapping Esc key (that will toggle the splash screen) then try pressing Enter a few times, you may find there's a shell prompt lost in the spam! | 22:08 |
| obby | ok ill try | 22:09 |
| obby | nothing | 22:10 |
| obby | last line is fb0:switching to amdgpudrmfb from efi vga | 22:10 |
| obby | Starting version 245.4-4ubuntu3.11 i can see somewhere up high | 22:10 |
| TJ- | obby: that's systemd starting, the init daemon | 22:11 |
| TJ- | obby: that seems strange; you wouldn't see that if the root-fs hadn't been unlocked, since it isn't used in the initialramfs | 22:11 |
| obby | impossble it never asked me for the decryption key | 22:12 |
| obby | :) | 22:12 |
| obby | Sorry i accidentally closed my weechat | 22:13 |
| obby | Did you say something, I was going to say I have a feeling that the problem lies with it not asking for the passphrase | 22:13 |
| TJ- | obby: yes,I suspect the initialramfs (initrd.img) doesn't have the cryptsetup-initramfs tooling | 22:14 |
| obby | how do i make a new one | 22:14 |
| obby | or is there a way to make grub cryptsetup work | 22:14 |
| TJ- | obby: you'll need to boot the liveISO again, so we can ensure it is configured correctly, and then we rebuild the initrd.img | 22:14 |
| TJ- | obby: GRUB has nothing to do with LUKS in your case | 22:14 |
| obby | man it seems absurd to me there isnt a ubuntu gui process for fixing the boot loader | 22:15 |
| obby | if u clear ur cmos or something | 22:15 |
| obby | at this point im thinking of just reinstalling ngl | 22:15 |
| TJ- | obby: what you're actually referring to, is addding a kernel command-line option that the tooling in the initrd.img scripts reads from /proc/cmdline ... but if cryptsetup isn't installed in the initrd.img that won't help | 22:15 |
| obby | i see | 22:15 |
| obby | is it pretty easy to do the initramfs | 22:16 |
| TJ- | obby: yes | 22:16 |
| obby | or the initrd.img * | 22:16 |
| obby | hmm sec ill boot into it right now | 22:16 |
| TJ- | obby: we need to re-construct the chroot | 22:16 |
| TJ- | obby: all the same mount operations as before | 22:16 |
| root_ | hi TJ- | 22:24 |
| root_ | i restored it all the chroot etc | 22:24 |
| === root_ is now known as obby_ubuntu | ||
| obby_ubuntu | all the mounts etc | 22:24 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: OK | 22:26 |
| TJ- | you did the proc dev dev/pts sys as well? | 22:26 |
| obby | no what is the command sorry | 22:26 |
| TJ- | obby_ubuntu: "mount -t proc proc /target/proc; mount -t devtmpfs udev /target/dev; mount -t devpts devpts /target/dev/pts; mount -t sysfs sysfs /target/sys" | 22:27 |
| TJ- | obby: once those are in place I need to gather some info to determine what state the install is in | 22:28 |
| TJ- | obby: so " (cat /target/etc/crypttab; chroot /target lsb_release -r; chroot /target apt list --installed 'cryptsetup*'; ) | nc termbin.com 9999 " | 22:30 |
| obby | frick man i wish my ssh worked | 22:30 |
| obby | sshd is running but it wont let me connect port 22 is conn refused | 22:30 |
| obby | it works on 127.0.0.1 on that machine tho | 22:30 |
| TJ- | obby: some firewall in the arch liveISO? | 22:31 |
| obby | oh i got it to work | 22:32 |
| obby | i was using wrong ip my router was reporting wrong one smh | 22:32 |
| obby | mounting that stuff now | 22:32 |
| TJ- | obby: OK, that's going to help! | 22:32 |
| obby | okay ran that big one | 22:33 |
| obby | uhh | 22:33 |
| obby | do i need to remake the | 22:33 |
| obby | efivarfs? | 22:34 |
| TJ- | obby: shouldn't need that this time around | 22:34 |
| TJ- | obby: I just need to see all that info so I know how we fix it | 22:34 |
| obby | https://termbin.com/ipuf | 22:35 |
| TJ- | obby: that's good; so now we'll get the installed kernel versions, rebuild the initrd.img for the latest, check what is actually put inside it, and if it is correct, try another reboot | 22:36 |
| TJ- | obby: so show me " ls -latr /target/boot/ | nc termbin.com 9999 " | 22:36 |
| obby | https://termbin.com/uf93 | 22:37 |
| TJ- | obby: just in case, make sure you've done "chroot /target mount -a" | 22:37 |
| obby | done | 22:37 |
| TJ- | obby: right; now we rebuild the initrd.img for 5.11.0-34-generic and capture the verbose log so I can be sure all the correct crypt bits are added. " chroot /target update-initramfs -v -u -k 5.11.0-34-generic |& tee /tmp/initrd.img " | 22:38 |
| TJ- | obby: then "cat /tmp/initrd.img | nc termbin.com 9999" | 22:39 |
| obby | https://termbin.com/abf9 | 22:41 |
| TJ- | obby: looks good so far,but I haven't read to the end yet, so wait "Adding script /usr/share/cryptsetup/initramfs/bin/cryptroot-unlock" | 22:42 |
| TJ- | obby: looks correct! | 22:44 |
| TJ- | obby: that wouldn't have been added if an /etc/crypttab entry didn't match the current root-fs container | 22:44 |
| obby | should i reboot? | 22:46 |
| obby | or do another command | 22:46 |
| TJ- | obby: From what I can see it should boot correctly, and offer the LUKS prompt for passphrase | 22:47 |
| obby | ok ill try | 22:47 |
| TJ- | obby: you did remove the addition from the kernel commandline in /etc/default/grub ? | 22:47 |
| obby | i didnt TJ- | 22:48 |
| obby | but i just rebooted | 22:48 |
| obby | and same exact thing | 22:48 |
| obby | honestly my files arent that precious and i think this is taking longer then reinstalling at this point | 22:48 |
| obby | so i think ima just give up | 22:48 |
| TJ- | obby: are you sure this is even reading the same file-systems we're editing? | 22:48 |
| obby | i know its booting the grub boot menu options we created with update-grub | 22:49 |
| obby | but there isnt any ext4 with a full fs anywhere else on that pc iirc | 22:49 |
| TJ- | obby: I was wondering if it is using a different /boot/ !! | 22:49 |
| obby | i dont think there is any other /boot | 22:50 |
| TJ- | obby: no, that is the weird part. Did you check if the GRUB entry that is booting has the same kernel version we just built the initrd for? | 22:50 |
| TJ- | obby: can you get it to the GRUB menu, then press 'e' to edit the 'default' (topmost) entry | 22:51 |
| obby | hmm let me double check | 22:51 |
| obby | sec | 22:51 |
| TJ- | obby: then navigate down to the "linux ..." and "initrd ..." lines and check the version is 5.11.0-34-generic | 22:51 |
| TJ- | obby: and check the "linux ..." line has "root=/dev/mapper/vgubuntu-root" | 22:53 |
| TJ- | obby: that line should have very little else except "ro quiet splash" maybe | 22:53 |
| obby | all of those look correct | 22:54 |
| obby | i even tried booting editing the menu to not include the cryptsetup | 22:54 |
| obby | im going to just reinstall | 22:54 |
| obby | thanks a ton for ur help tho man | 22:54 |
| obby | it means a lot to me | 22:54 |
| obby | anyone reading this make sure u backup ur efi boot stuff before clearing ur cmos ! | 22:55 |
| TJ- | obby: I don't think a reinstall is necessary; you can get it to drop into the initrd shell and figure out the issue there | 22:55 |
| TJ- | obby: if you add "break=premount" to that "linux ..." line, then press Ctrl+X it'll boot into a busybox shell in the initrd | 22:56 |
| obby | okay i will now | 22:56 |
| TJ- | obby: there you can check if you can manually unlock, and check for clues as to why it isn't prompting you, such as the /etc/crypttab being incorrect or empty | 22:57 |
| TJ- | obby: once you have a shell, check that with "cat cryptroot/crypttab " | 22:58 |
| TJ- | obby: you'll expect to see that sda6_crypt .... entry | 22:59 |
| === LabMonkey is now known as Mechanismus | ||
| TJ- | obby: if the file seems correct, try a manual unlock with "/usr/bin/cryptroot-unlock" | 23:01 |
| obby | i added break=premount and it still booted the same way | 23:01 |
| TJ- | obby: that breaks before LUKS unlock is attempted; so if you're not getting a shell at that stage, there's something else wrong | 23:03 |
| obby | yea screw it i dont need anything on the fs | 23:05 |
| obby | thanks a lot <3 | 23:05 |
| obby | ima reinstall later | 23:05 |
| TJ- | obby: despite all those console messages, have you tried just pressing Enter a few times? that usually uncovers the shell prompt if console messages have overwritten it | 23:05 |
| obby | yea i did | 23:05 |
| obby | wont take input | 23:05 |
| TJ- | obby: is it on the /wrong/ tty? | 23:05 |
| TJ- | obby: this sounds like an issue Ubuntu used to have with using a different tty for graphical splash | 23:06 |
| TJ- | obby: and as a result input went to a different tty | 23:06 |
| TJ- | obby: long shot and I cannot recall how exactly to fix it when you're at the console, but I /think/ Alt+F1 or some other function key then back to Alt+F1 might do it | 23:07 |
| obby | no keys do anything | 23:07 |
| TJ- | obby: that suggests the hardware has hung then | 23:07 |
| obby | i give up ubuntu has defeated me | 23:08 |
| TJ- | obby: that'd certainly explain the symptom, if there is no reaction to input. Try this. Press Ctrl + Alt + SysRq, then the S key | 23:09 |
| TJ- | if the kernel is still responsive you should see a message "emergency sync" or similar | 23:09 |
| TJ- | (this is called Magic Sys Request) and are kernel hotkeys it will always obey | 23:09 |
| obby | what is sysrq | 23:10 |
| TJ- | usually on the PrntScrn key | 23:10 |
| TJ- | obby: all the details including all the keys it'll respond to https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/sysrq.html | 23:11 |
| obby | nothin | 23:11 |
| obby | unless sysrq is a diff key | 23:11 |
| obby | tried ctrl alt and a bunch of keys | 23:12 |
| obby | just ended up rebooting | 23:12 |
| TJ- | obby: so possibly kernel has locked up | 23:12 |
| obby | dont worry about it im going to go make some food and when im done eating im gonna install arch on it probably or something | 23:14 |
| obby | thanks a ton for ur help | 23:14 |
| obby | <3 | 23:14 |
| TJ- | obby: one last thing you might find helpful. Early this week we had someone else with the same issue; and there it turned out a kernel module being loaded from initrd was responsible. We discovered that by using "break=top" which drops to the busybox shell even before it tries to load kernel modules. You might try that, if you do get a shell, you know where the issue is | 23:14 |
| asarch | One stupid question: can Xen, in the dom0/domU combination, "emulate" other arch than the dom0's arch? | 23:26 |
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