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lotuspsychjegood morning01:52
lordievaderGood morning06:03
marcoagpintoHeya06:12
ducassegood morning06:31
MekaneckAllie: looks like they are back in offtopic as vagaj4 and misbehaving again. However they left. Just keep an eye on it please.09:11
AllieMekaneck: ah stunning, ban evasion is something i can certainly look into09:17
Mekaneckthanks :)09:17
Mekaneckiirc you didn't ban them from #ubuntu-offtopic yesterday but just quieted them. They were banned from #ubuntu however.09:18
AllieMekaneck: i shall have drone upgrade the ban if they return on v409:19
Mekaneckthey are still in offtopic as mundelj09:19
MekaneckAllie: roger09:20
Alliea discussion is being had, since they do seem to be a particularly strong font of drivel.09:20
Mekaneckthey probably used another IP or maybe a proxy to get in offtopic again09:21
Mekaneckalright09:21
Allieand whilst it mostly seems they want to make friends, not respecting "go away" is more of a problem09:21
Mekaneckthis isn't acceptable: [03:11:17] <vagaj4> can i put my penis in acetone? [03:11:28] <vagaj4> just want to ask 09:23
MekaneckAnyway, thanks Allie for looking into it :)09:25
oerheksWindows 11 is no longer compatible with Oracle VirtualBox, hurray for KVM!10:51
Mekanecki don't even care for windows at all11:04
guivercMekaneck, if it wasn't for windows on the wall; I'd not be able to see outside at all.. windows aren't all that bad even if one type is :)11:30
Mekanecklol11:32
lotuspsychjelol11:38
marcoagpintolol12:11
marcoagpinto:)12:11
marcoagpintoI won't update to Windows 1112:12
marcoagpintounless I buy a new laptop that comes with it12:12
Mekaneckyou probably can't upgrade to W11, all depends on your machine if it's compatible and has TPM 2.012:26
Mekaneckalso they will force you to have a webcam to run W11 in the near future12:26
Mekanecki'd switch to linux only if i were you, support for W10 ends in 202512:27
daftykinsMekaneck: lol what nonsense are you spreading?12:57
TJ-presumably https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/08/27/update-on-windows-11-minimum-system-requirements-and-the-pc-health-check-app/13:03
TJ-there's been talk about the minimum hardware requirements being applied to VM guests, and breaking VirtualBox as a result, despite MS saying the minimum hardware requirements do not apply to virtual machines13:04
daftykinsthe webcam claim is what i'm considering nonsense13:15
daftykinscertainly some eyebrow raising choices all in all13:25
TJ-oh, I think that was hyperbole13:27
TJ-as in 'what next!? webcams?'13:28
daftykinsi don't13:29
daftykinsTJ-: had a fun one the other day, 2.7 kW oven heating element blew mid-cook of fish and chips, took out the power to the whole house :D13:30
TJ-ouch!13:30
TJ-we had a Land-Rover burst into flame whilst being driven past the farm last evening; luckily they got out in time but it's melted the lane13:31
daftykinswowzer13:31
TJ-I was driving past it to block the lane when a tyre explosed; flames were about 5 metres high at that point13:31
Mekaneckdaftykins: i read the webcam nonsense somewhere a while ago, can't recall where though13:35
daftykinsi have a feeling a lot of the nonsense news will go away after release13:36
leftyfbI worry about my car bursting into flames almost every day13:57
MekaneckAllie: mundelj is active again in #ubuntu-offtopic15:22
AllieMekaneck: noted. eyes on them.15:23
Mekaneckthanks15:23
oerheks"New malware strain dubbed 'Sanya'. Sanya targets Windows via the Windows subsystem for Linux."... 16:45
lotuspsychje: o16:46
Mekanecklooks like mundelj also evaded his ban in #linux-offtopic, pinged the Op there about the matter17:13
Mekaneckmundelj!~s@2.26.176.128 from yester day  and  mundelj!~s@91.110.123.38  from today17:15
hggdhMekaneck: they did not, it seems, the ban expired at 14:57 UTC today17:15
hggdh(at least for today, in #u-offtopic)17:15
Mekanecknot in linux-offtopic afaik17:16
Mekaneckand ubuntu-offtopic he wasn't banned, just quieted17:16
hggdh4:57:29       -- | Notice(Drone): [#ubuntu-offtopic] Drone sets [#154 -q *!*@2.26.176.128 - mundelj!~s@2.26.176.128, 1d 0h 18s]                                                                  │17:16
hggdh                           │15:09:33       -- | Notice(Drone): [#ubuntu] Drone sets [#155 -b *!*@2.26.176.128 - mundelj!~s@2.26.176.128, 1d 0h 27s]17:16
Mekaneckthat wasn't a ban :)17:17
hggdhindeed17:17
lotuspsychje!next18:02
ubottuImpish Indri is the codename for Ubuntu 21.10. For technical support, see #ubuntu-next. For testing and QA feedback and help, see #ubuntu-quality.18:02
Bashing-omUWN: Issue 701 is on the streets: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue701 :D 20:19
ubottuBug 701 in gaim (Ubuntu) "gaim crashes on startup" [Medium, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70120:19
daftykinsnice work there, ubottu 20:20
goddardwhen do the nvidia drivers usually get updated after nvidia releases?21:23
Mekanecknot21:28
goddardMekaneck: sorry?21:51
Mekaneckthey don't get updated on ubuntu unless you use a PPA21:53
Mekaneckat least that's what i remember from years ago21:54
Mekaneckif you use the ones from the repo then that's what you get afaik and those won't be updated21:55
sarnoldgoddard: it depends upon the series you're using, check the packages21:55
sarnoldhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-470/+publishinghistory21:55
sarnoldhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-460/+publishinghistory21:55
sarnoldhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-450/+publishinghistory21:55
sarnold...21:55
goddardyeah i was looking at that ppa21:56
goddardlooks like it still hasn't released the newest yet21:56
goddardhttps://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/180475/en-us21:57
sarnoldit's not a ppa, it's just the archive21:57
sarnoldgoddard: oh nice, a test case that's here and now :)21:57
goddardwhat is involved with packaging up the nvidia drivers22:11
daftykinsprobably great pain and hair loss22:12
goddardis nvidia's .run file an archive ?22:12
daftykinsthat's a binary22:12
goddardhaha22:12
daftykinswouldn't recommend version chasing22:12
sarnoldno kidding22:12
sarnoldlet our guy do it22:12
goddardit lets me open it with neovim22:13
goddardyou can put ELF binary data in a shell script?22:13
goddard800 lines of shell then a giant ELF 22:14
sarnoldsure22:15
sarnoldshar archives were doing that before there was an ELF22:15
sarnoldcoverity distributes their gunk that way, and apparently so does nvidia22:16
sarnoldit's not real popular among foss folks but proprietary people seem to love it22:16
daftykinsanything to be different!22:16
daftykins;)22:16
goddardis it some program that packages it for them?22:20
goddard:q22:21
sarnoldchances are good they wrote it themselves, but yeah22:21
goddardwhoops22:21
goddardahh22:22
goddardprobably fun working at nvidia22:22
goddardlove AMD drivers though22:25
goddardhopefully their next gen cards are better than nvidia22:25
goddardor maybe Intel will pull a rabbit out of the hat22:25
sarnoldunlikely :)22:25
goddardya sadly22:25
sarnoldthey're having trouble with CPUs these days, relatively speaking22:25
goddardbut two open source driver companies is cool22:26
sarnoldI mean, I've always looked specifically for intel graphics on my systems because I don't want to deal with the hassle :) but I don't think they come anywhere close to the performance of amd/nvidia22:26
daftykinsnope!22:27
goddardno and their new graphics are not well supported22:27
goddardi have a xe 1 or whatever they are calling it in the 11th gen chips and it just not can play doom eternal 22:27
goddardsorry didn't get my license to type yet22:28
goddardhaha22:28
goddardjust NOW can play doom eternal 22:28
daftykinshmm must be at low res, low detail22:28
goddarddoom is pretty optimized but yet only 720p 22:28
goddardworks well though with latest kernel and latest mesa22:32

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