[01:52] good morning [06:03] Good morning [06:12] Heya [06:31] good morning [09:11] Allie: looks like they are back in offtopic as vagaj4 and misbehaving again. However they left. Just keep an eye on it please. [09:17] Mekaneck: ah stunning, ban evasion is something i can certainly look into [09:17] thanks :) [09:18] iirc you didn't ban them from #ubuntu-offtopic yesterday but just quieted them. They were banned from #ubuntu however. [09:19] Mekaneck: i shall have drone upgrade the ban if they return on v4 [09:19] they are still in offtopic as mundelj [09:20] Allie: roger [09:20] a discussion is being had, since they do seem to be a particularly strong font of drivel. [09:21] they probably used another IP or maybe a proxy to get in offtopic again [09:21] alright [09:21] and whilst it mostly seems they want to make friends, not respecting "go away" is more of a problem [09:23] this isn't acceptable: [03:11:17] can i put my penis in acetone? [03:11:28] just want to ask [09:25] Anyway, thanks Allie for looking into it :) [10:51] Windows 11 is no longer compatible with Oracle VirtualBox, hurray for KVM! [11:04] i don't even care for windows at all [11:30] Mekaneck, if it wasn't for windows on the wall; I'd not be able to see outside at all.. windows aren't all that bad even if one type is :) [11:32] lol [11:38] lol [12:11] lol [12:11] :) [12:12] I won't update to Windows 11 [12:12] unless I buy a new laptop that comes with it [12:26] you probably can't upgrade to W11, all depends on your machine if it's compatible and has TPM 2.0 [12:26] also they will force you to have a webcam to run W11 in the near future [12:27] i'd switch to linux only if i were you, support for W10 ends in 2025 [12:57] Mekaneck: lol what nonsense are you spreading? [13:03] presumably https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/08/27/update-on-windows-11-minimum-system-requirements-and-the-pc-health-check-app/ [13:04] there's been talk about the minimum hardware requirements being applied to VM guests, and breaking VirtualBox as a result, despite MS saying the minimum hardware requirements do not apply to virtual machines [13:15] the webcam claim is what i'm considering nonsense [13:25] certainly some eyebrow raising choices all in all [13:27] oh, I think that was hyperbole [13:28] as in 'what next!? webcams?' [13:29] i don't [13:30] TJ-: had a fun one the other day, 2.7 kW oven heating element blew mid-cook of fish and chips, took out the power to the whole house :D [13:30] ouch! [13:31] we had a Land-Rover burst into flame whilst being driven past the farm last evening; luckily they got out in time but it's melted the lane [13:31] wowzer [13:31] I was driving past it to block the lane when a tyre explosed; flames were about 5 metres high at that point [13:35] daftykins: i read the webcam nonsense somewhere a while ago, can't recall where though [13:36] i have a feeling a lot of the nonsense news will go away after release [13:57] I worry about my car bursting into flames almost every day [15:22] Allie: mundelj is active again in #ubuntu-offtopic [15:23] Mekaneck: noted. eyes on them. [15:23] thanks [16:45] "New malware strain dubbed 'Sanya'. Sanya targets Windows via the Windows subsystem for Linux."... [16:46] : o [17:13] looks like mundelj also evaded his ban in #linux-offtopic, pinged the Op there about the matter [17:15] mundelj!~s@2.26.176.128 from yester day and mundelj!~s@91.110.123.38 from today [17:15] Mekaneck: they did not, it seems, the ban expired at 14:57 UTC today [17:15] (at least for today, in #u-offtopic) [17:16] not in linux-offtopic afaik [17:16] and ubuntu-offtopic he wasn't banned, just quieted [17:16] 4:57:29 -- | Notice(Drone): [#ubuntu-offtopic] Drone sets [#154 -q *!*@2.26.176.128 - mundelj!~s@2.26.176.128, 1d 0h 18s] │ [17:16] │15:09:33 -- | Notice(Drone): [#ubuntu] Drone sets [#155 -b *!*@2.26.176.128 - mundelj!~s@2.26.176.128, 1d 0h 27s] [17:17] that wasn't a ban :) [17:17] indeed [18:02] !next [18:02] Impish Indri is the codename for Ubuntu 21.10. For technical support, see #ubuntu-next. For testing and QA feedback and help, see #ubuntu-quality. [20:19] UWN: Issue 701 is on the streets: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue701 :D [20:19] Bug 701 in gaim (Ubuntu) "gaim crashes on startup" [Medium, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/701 [20:20] nice work there, ubottu [21:23] when do the nvidia drivers usually get updated after nvidia releases? [21:28] not [21:51] Mekaneck: sorry? [21:53] they don't get updated on ubuntu unless you use a PPA [21:54] at least that's what i remember from years ago [21:55] if you use the ones from the repo then that's what you get afaik and those won't be updated [21:55] goddard: it depends upon the series you're using, check the packages [21:55] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-470/+publishinghistory [21:55] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-460/+publishinghistory [21:55] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-450/+publishinghistory [21:55] ... [21:56] yeah i was looking at that ppa [21:56] looks like it still hasn't released the newest yet [21:57] https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/180475/en-us [21:57] it's not a ppa, it's just the archive [21:57] goddard: oh nice, a test case that's here and now :) [22:11] what is involved with packaging up the nvidia drivers [22:12] probably great pain and hair loss [22:12] is nvidia's .run file an archive ? [22:12] that's a binary [22:12] haha [22:12] wouldn't recommend version chasing [22:12] no kidding [22:12] let our guy do it [22:13] it lets me open it with neovim [22:13] you can put ELF binary data in a shell script? [22:14] 800 lines of shell then a giant ELF [22:15] sure [22:15] shar archives were doing that before there was an ELF [22:16] coverity distributes their gunk that way, and apparently so does nvidia [22:16] it's not real popular among foss folks but proprietary people seem to love it [22:16] anything to be different! [22:16] ;) [22:20] is it some program that packages it for them? [22:21] :q [22:21] chances are good they wrote it themselves, but yeah [22:21] whoops [22:22] ahh [22:22] probably fun working at nvidia [22:25] love AMD drivers though [22:25] hopefully their next gen cards are better than nvidia [22:25] or maybe Intel will pull a rabbit out of the hat [22:25] unlikely :) [22:25] ya sadly [22:25] they're having trouble with CPUs these days, relatively speaking [22:26] but two open source driver companies is cool [22:26] I mean, I've always looked specifically for intel graphics on my systems because I don't want to deal with the hassle :) but I don't think they come anywhere close to the performance of amd/nvidia [22:27] nope! [22:27] no and their new graphics are not well supported [22:27] i have a xe 1 or whatever they are calling it in the 11th gen chips and it just not can play doom eternal [22:28] sorry didn't get my license to type yet [22:28] haha [22:28] just NOW can play doom eternal [22:28] hmm must be at low res, low detail [22:28] doom is pretty optimized but yet only 720p [22:32] works well though with latest kernel and latest mesa