[00:47] <ghostnik11> if i install ubuntu will it be able to see my other partitions and leave grub so i can still boot into those partitions?
[00:47] <ghostnik11> also where could i go to be able to save a backup of my grub file just in case i erase it?
[00:51] <ghostnik11> so my question is this, for the partition that i will install ubuntu on, i will also keep that same partition to install the bootloader on? after the installation then i can do a grub-update to find the other boot system for my second OS
[00:56] <ghostnik11> how can i change my grub2 to another location so that i won't erase it when i install a newer version of ubuntu
[01:06] <guiverc> ghostnik11, grub has two components, stage 0 is the MBR and for legacy systems that installs to sector 0 of the specified DRIVE (outside of partitioning layout); the rest goes in /boot/grub inside partition installed to.   I QA-test installed ubuntu on a system I used yesterday; I let it overwrite the boot system & verified it had options for my other OSes; then after verifying all was as expected; booted the OS I want to control boot & made it
[01:06] <guiverc> take ownership back from the QA-tested impish ubuntu system.  Ubuntu has various installers though selected by ISO used to boot & install from
[01:16] <ghostnik11> guiverc: okay. yeah i feel like i probably could still install and just back up my grub folders and then if i can't get in to my other partition. look at the backed up files and then input the correct information to make my other partitions accessible
[01:18] <guiverc> the MBR (sector 0 of drive) is really just a point to the location on partition where later stages of grub are; ie. the /boot/grub/ folder on the OS system drive.. `grub-install` will put the MBR in place (grub stage 0)
[01:19] <ghostnik11> guiverc: okay. well i want to try it. if anything i will learn from it and figure out a way to get back into my other partition.
[01:20] <guiverc> I've had experiences where systems weren't recognized (btrfs i think, maybe encrypted partitions too) thus grub failed to recognize the other systems on 'new' install.. but they are rare (I again fix post-install; but I have to given I QA-test so I can't tweak!) using live media usually to make the wanted system own boot
[01:21] <guiverc> those situations are rare though  (where grub doesn't recognize the other partitions so as to add entry to it's boot; encryption is one you'll know before hand as easier to understand - if it can't read it - it can't know what's on it to add entry for)
[01:30] <ghostnik11> guiverc: okay cool. yeah i won't have any problems i will be able to copy anything over to the backups to make it work. so backup will be important.
[01:30] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/491300d0541e88bf0076cc8ef90d779d/pasted.txt
[01:30] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> I found tutorial on cuda which is not nvidia driver?
[01:31] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> ubuntu does not show GTX 1650Ti model
[01:31] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> no way
[01:31] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> and I can't install driver on 20.04
[01:31] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> https://www.acer.com/ac/en/GB/content/model/NH.Q9HEK.003
[01:31] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> my laptop
[01:39] <grys> Ronalds_Mazitis_: hi
[01:39] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> grys hey
[01:40] <grys> Ronalds_Mazitis_: visit https://h-node.org/search/form/en fill in the box at the bottom
[01:40] <grys> it tells you hardware compatibility with free drivers. i'm wondering what it will say for yours graphics
[01:42] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> nothing
[01:42] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> I was here asking about this laptop
[01:42] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> and people said it would work
[01:42] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> with ubuntu
[01:42] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> google also has a lot of tutorials and links where such model gets drivers
[01:42] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> all fake
[01:42] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> ?
[01:43] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> I wasted my time with ubuntu
[01:45] <grys> pastebin that "lspci -vmmnn" output somewhere please
[01:45] <grys> to paste.ubuntu.com
[01:46] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2019/04/nvidia-430-09-gtx-1650-support/
[01:46] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> but Ti might be other version
[01:47] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/1e4ab859ea514fb01c1a9f64700456b9/pasted.txt
[01:49] <grys> so there is #nvidia and #nouveau channels where a note about https://www.acer.com/ac/en/GB/content/model/NH.Q9HEK.003 and "GTX 1650Ti model" and a mention of ubuntu could be of utility
[02:28] <noarb> on http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ are top level dists frozen on their release day? It seems that way. If I built an iso from those archives, would it match the release iso?
[02:34] <jaggz> my friend's ssh login is failing, but syslog and auth.log aren't showing their failed attempt
[02:35] <jaggz> they show my successful logins, but i don't see anything from them
[02:37] <jaggz> well, whatever.. I just added in a DEBUG LogLevel directive.. maybe INFO just doesn't show failed stuff
[02:44] <Swift110-mobile> sup folks
[02:52] <tical> .
[02:56] <alkisg> noarb: the debs in the isos exist inside pool/ (not inside dists/). What do you need exactly?
[04:15] <Croran> Trying to get Bluetooth working on Ubuntu
[04:15] <Croran> I've got Broadcom Corp. BCM92046DG-CL1ROM Bluetooth 2.1 Adapter (per lsusb)
[04:16] <Croran> and I'm trying to connect my phone so that I can use my PC speakers from my Phone.
[04:16] <Croran> Phone gives the message "pairing unsuccessful"
[04:16] <Croran> any advice?
[04:18] <Bashing-om> !bcm | Croran
[04:19] <Croran> Bashing-om: thanks but i don't think that's relevant.
[04:20] <Croran> my adapter is a stand-alone bluetooth unit, not a 802.11 card.
[04:21] <Bashing-om> Croran: Yukkie then on me - Can offer no othger assist as I have no experience to relate with :(
[04:25] <Croran> also my bluetooth is generally working fine. i can connect a BT headset to my PC.
[04:26] <Croran> just can't figure out how to connect my PC as a 'speaker'
[04:46] <Croran> anyone using Pipewire on Ubuntu 21.10?
[04:49] <yukiup> but ubuntu .10 isn't out yet
[04:49] <Croran> yukiup: it's in beta, no?
[04:59] <Intelo> I see blurry screen if I do scaling like this. Any solutions? xrandr --output DisplayPort-0 --mode 1920x1080 --rate 143.85 --scale 0.75x0.75
[05:01] <guiverc> Croran, only supported releases are on-topic in this room
[05:08]  * Intelo waits
[05:11] <Croran> Okay I get that no one has any idea how bluetooth works. Is there an easy way to get any debug output from bluetoothd?
[05:22] <yukiup> Croran sudo sed -i 's/bluetoothd/bluetoothd \-d/g' /lib/systemd/system/bluetooth.service
[05:22] <yukiup> maybe that?
[05:22] <yukiup> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingBluetooth
[05:24] <Croran> good call. looks like `sudo btmon` is giving me some potentially relevant output
[05:35] <webchat47> Hey guys, is slack not starting lately? I can see icon on top panel but window is not starting at all. I'm using ubuntu 21.10 daily build.
[05:35] <Croran> https://pastebin.com/PuxeSdZM
[05:35] <Croran> btmon output when i try to pair
[05:35] <Croran> FYI looks much better if you copy the 'raw data' and paste into your own editor
[05:45] <guiverc> webchat47, Ubuntu 21.10 will be released on October 14, then it's on-topic here, you could try #ubuntu+1 for help
[05:45] <guiverc> but Thank You for testing the dailies - appreciated webchat47 !
[05:47] <guiverc> fyi webchat47, if it's QA you're asking for #ubuntu-quality may help, it's not for support though
[06:05] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> Turns out Nvidia GTX 1650Ti is not compatible with Ubuntu or Linux, can somebody confirm? :)
[06:07] <webchat47> guiverc: Thanks!, I'll try reporting there.
[06:17] <Croran> Ronalds_Mazitis_: why do you say that?
[07:36] <nello> hello
[07:36] <nello> I am trying to improve my Linux administrator/Ubuntu skills
[07:36] <Croran> nice
[07:37] <nello> so far, I created a user, installed a ssh server, created a virtual machine with KVN, I created a shared folder, installed LAMP, I assigned persmissions with chown
[07:37] <nello> what else, can I do?
[07:38] <ducasse> nello: did you try the suggestions you got yesterday?
[07:38] <nello> ducasse, yes, except for acl, I don't want to install it
[07:39] <nello> i prefer ubuntu's existing functionality
[07:39] <ducasse> have you got more than one machine?
[07:40] <nello> ducasse, two
[07:40] <Croran> nello: sounds good. it's not ubuntu-specific but i really like the free 'ndg linux essentials' course via NetAcad.
[07:41] <Croran> nello: it has live labs built-in so you don't even necessarily need to configure anything locally.
[07:41] <nello> Croran, thanks for the suggestion
[07:46] <ducasse> nello: try setting up nfs server and client
[07:47] <nello> ducasse, I have samba set up, don't they do the same?
[07:48] <Croran> nello: kind of, but not really. samba is a reverse-engineered microsoft technology
[07:48] <Croran> nello: NFS is designed from the ground up to be accessed as a real file system and in thin-client situations and such
[07:48] <nello> ducasse, I have a windows pc and an ubuntu pc, is nfs appropriate?
[07:49] <nello> ducasse, nfs is for shared folders, right?
[07:49] <Croran> nello: all depends what you want to ultimately do. I'd suggest learning Ansible before NFS
[07:49] <ducasse> not really, but you can use it between a physical host and a vm
[07:50] <nello> I see
[07:51] <nello> is nfs only for linux machines?
[07:52] <ducasse> mostly
[07:52] <ducasse> or mac etc
[07:52] <nello> I have only one linux pc
[07:52] <ducasse> didn't you have a vm?
[07:53] <Croran> nello: NFS can be used on Mac OS and Windows too
[07:53] <nello> ducasse, yes, a physical ubuntu pc that has a vm with ubuntu
[07:53] <nello> Croran, I see
[07:53] <ducasse> you'll need 3rd party software for windows, though
[07:54] <Croran> ducasse: not sure it's third-party. seems like a windows feature to me. https://it.umn.edu/services-technologies/how-tos/network-file-system-nfs-mount-nfs-share
[07:55] <ducasse> it was supported for a while, then not, might be again
[07:55] <Croran> ah ok
[07:56] <Croran> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/storage/nfs/nfs-overview
[07:56] <Croran> looks like windows server even supports creating nfs shares. i didn't realize that.
[08:33] <nello> if i got that correctly. nfs is for creating shared folders?
[08:53] <detnetos> hey
[08:54] <alkisg> nello: over the network, yes
[09:08] <nello> alkisg, I see, thanks
[09:26] <glick> hi
[09:26] <glick> parden whats the way to automate things in ubuntu, not using crontab?
[09:26] <glick> i have some automated tasks but i forgot where i put them
[09:26] <glick> but i know it wasnt crontab
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> glick: startup items or systemd?
[09:26] <glick> lotuspsychje, no like some certbot stuff
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> glick: you're on -server?
[09:30] <glick> lotuspsychje, yes ubuntu 20.04
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> glick: might wanna ask the #ubuntu-server experts then
[09:31] <ogra> glick, systemd timers ?
[09:31] <glick> ogra, ah yes let me chck there
[09:33] <glick> there it is
[09:33] <glick> thanks
[09:56] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> again
[09:56] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> DOES GTX 1650Ti have proprietary driver than can edit 4k files and 3d on Ubuntu 20.04
[09:56] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> ?
[09:57] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> I installed ubuntu 20.04 on laptop, and I can't work in such slow thing as opensource driver provides
[09:59] <LnxTen> How to install bestowed indicator in Ubuntu mate?
[09:59] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> one question per time
[09:59] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> :D
[10:00] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> I wasted 10 hours yesterday, I am inpatient
[10:00] <LnxTen> 3:29 PM <LnxTen> How to install net speed indicator in Ubuntu mate?
[10:06] <ogra> Ronalds_Mazitis_, whats wrong ? you just go to "Additional Drivers" in the gnome apps and pick the recommended closed driver ...
[10:08] <ogra> (just type "drivers" in the app seearch)
[10:19] <LnxTen> I did it. Thank you
[10:19] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> ogra it does not work
[10:20] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> those drivers make my pc not start without acpi=off
[10:20] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> and then everything lags
[10:20] <TJ-> Nothing these days should require, or work reliably, with ACPI disabled. ACPI is integral
[10:21] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> AGAIN CAN SOMEBODY CONFIRM GTX 1650Ti works with closed driver
[10:21] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> TJ-
[10:21] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> the pc gets stuck
[10:21] <vuurdraak> best is to try the lowest version of the driver first if stuff doesnt work
[10:21] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> I tried
[10:21] <vuurdraak> like the 390 driver from nvidia
[10:21] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> every version
[10:21] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> tried
[10:21] <vuurdraak> oww :(
[10:21] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> does not work
[10:22] <vuurdraak> weird
[10:22] <TJ-> Ronalds_Mazitis_:I wouldn't/don't touch Nvidia because it is always causing issues of some sort
[10:22] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> do I look like gpu factory
[10:22] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> I touch it because I need it
[10:22] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> I don't have just money to swing around to buy cards for linux
[10:22] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> use
[10:23] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> only
[10:23] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> that's why I am asking, if there is anybody who can 100% confirm
[10:23] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> this
[10:23] <vuurdraak> Ronalds_Mazitis_, you can add an extra driver ppa -> " sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa "
[10:24] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> I tried, I think it did not work ether
[10:24] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> I spent 10 hours
[10:24] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> I need somebody who has this card
[10:24] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> it's pretty popular online
[10:24] <vuurdraak> you can also try to get help on nvidia's forum
[10:25] <vuurdraak> and potentialy manualy install a driver not suplied through the ppa
[10:25] <vuurdraak> but its a hassle
[10:29] <vuurdraak> nvidia has it's own driver install scripts for linux drivers, but I think since ubuntu 16.04 they are not always easy to install and/or might bork stuff, if not everything is properly settup in grub
[10:30] <TJ-> GRUB has nothing to do with the OS drivers; I think what you're referring to is the kernel command-line options when things go wrong such as nomodeset
[10:30] <vuurdraak> TJ-, yeh true 'nomodeset' stuff
[10:35] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> it does not work
[10:35] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> with nomodeset
[10:35] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/geforce-graphics-cards/5/469191/does-proprietary-drivers-work-for-gtx-1650ti-on-ub/
[10:39] <vuurdraak> hopefully somebody has an answer :) for me my geforce 1060 3GB works just fine with all the drivers, maybe this is some special sauced laptop model idk
[10:42] <lotuspsychje> Ronalds_Mazitis_: details matter, like kernel version, nvidia driver versions available?
[10:42] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> I tried 390, 460 and 470
[10:42] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> both repos and not
[10:42] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> kernel version is the one provided automatically
[10:43] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> I am on windows at current moment
[10:43] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> can't tell
[10:53] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> okay, I upgraded the article in nvidia forum - https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/feed/469191/does-proprietary-drivers-work-for-gtx-1650ti-on-ub/
[10:58] <vuurdraak> maybe ubuntu doesn't understand the hardware yet from the laptop, maybe you can set other options then just acpi=off , as in this article -> https://askubuntu.com/questions/139157/booting-ubuntu-with-acpi-off-grub-parameter
[11:00] <vuurdraak> it is suggesting you can cycle through other things to turn off see if one specific thing works better -> nolapic
[11:00] <vuurdraak> noapic
[11:00] <vuurdraak> acpi_osi=“Linux”
[11:00] <vuurdraak> acpi_osi=“Windows 2006”
[11:00] <vuurdraak> acpi=ht
[11:00] <vuurdraak> pci=noacpi
[11:02] <vuurdraak> sorry :') didnt realise it would send nultiple lines
[11:02] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> well, I told You it only starts with acpi=off if driver is installed
[11:02] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> that was given really clear
[11:03] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> but when it starts it is lagging as hell
[11:06] <TJ-> vuurdraak: those ACPI suggestions look like a drowning man casting around for twigs!
[11:25] <byron> Hello
[12:04] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/discover/469191/does-proprietary-drivers-work-for-gtx-1650ti-on-ub/
[12:07] <Ronalds_Mazitis_>  libnvidia-decode-470:i386 depends on libnvidia-compute-470 (= 470.63.01-0ubuntu0.20.04.2); however:
[12:07] <Ronalds_Mazitis_>   Package libnvidia-compute-470:i386 is not configured yet.
[12:07] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> I installed and removed nvidia so many times it started doing this
[12:07] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/7bbadcabddafd0ecca0fe228611e0ab1/pasted.txt
[12:19] <user_33212> how do i open .mmdb files? its a database
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> Ronalds_Mazitis_: lets have a look in your dmesg please
[12:39] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:50] <JeanyBS> Hey. installing ssh-server on ubuntu 21.04. But cant start the service. Get errors host is down.Please help
[13:18] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> hey I created startup disk
[13:18] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> on 20.04
[13:18] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> with 21.04
[13:18] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> I can't see the usb drive content on win 10
[13:18] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> plus I can't seem to boot it
[13:18] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> bios shows only linpus ubuntu and windows
[13:25] <alkisg> Ronalds_Mazitis_: how did you create it, with which tool?
[13:25] <alkisg> JeanyBS: what's the output of `journalctl -u ssh-server`?
[13:26] <alkisg> Eh, journalctl -u ssh
[13:28] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> why I can't boot 21.04
[13:28] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> ?
[13:28] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> usb flash drive
[13:28] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> from
[13:28] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> it shows correct in ubuntu correct hash
[13:29] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> does not appear in windows
[13:33] <ogra> would help if Ronalds_Mazitis_ answered questions instead of just repeated complaining 🙂
[13:43] <sudorm> Hi
[13:43] <lotuspsychje> welcome sudorm
[13:44] <sudorm> lotuspsychje, hi
[13:45] <sudorm> I'd like to create a emaillater@mydomain.com that will store messages until 9am the next day, and if a mail client queries it via POP3, it displays "no mail"
[13:45] <sudorm> i.e. if I send a mail now to emaillater@mydomain.com, then, when I check new mails with Thunberbird, it will display "0 new mail". This new mail will appear in POP3 only tomorrow at 9am
[13:45] <sudorm> Any idea? :)
[13:46] <leftyfb> sudorm: don't use POP, use IMAP
[13:46] <leftyfb> sudorm: btw, your question is completely unrelated to ubuntu
[13:46] <sudorm> leftyfb, eventually I'd like Gmail to import from this POP3. Gmail supports IMAP for itself, but not for foreign address imports.
[13:47] <sudorm> leftyfb, I'd like to do it inside my Ubuntu server
[13:47] <leftyfb> sudorm: this is a client issue (gmail is a terrible client for external email), not a server issue
[13:48] <leftyfb> sudorm: tell thunderbird and any other client to talk to your ubuntu email server via IMAP, not POP
[13:48] <TJ-> sudorm: sounds like a job for procmail and a timer (procmail to deliver those emails to a directory/mbox outside the normal location, and a timer to trigger a script to put those emails into the visible location
[13:48] <sudorm> leftyfb, I need to do it with POP3, but anyway this is not the problem.
[13:49] <sudorm> The problem is how to do the "waiting" logic? i.e. each new mail that arrives will only be seen as new mail the next day at 9am?
[13:49] <TJ-> sudorm: it /is/ a server issue, not a client
[13:49] <sudorm> TJ-, yes
[13:50] <sudorm> TJ-, i'd like to avoid receiving emails 50 times per day, which is very distractive
[13:50] <leftyfb> sudorm: try #ubuntu-server
[13:50] <coke> turn off notifications on your email client
[13:50] <coke> or only check mails once a day
[13:56] <TJ-> Assuming Maildir storage($HOME/Maildir/) and home directory/account per email account, $HOME/.procmailrc rule: ":0H  \n* To: .*emaillater@mydomain\.com\n $HOME/Maildir.held/.pending/\n"    and "mkdir $HOME/Maildir.held" and then a systemd.timer that triggers on a daily Calendar event and runs ascript that does (for the user account)  "mv $HOME/Maildir.held/.pending/* $HOME/Maildir/cur/"
[13:59] <sudorm> TJ-: emails are just files in $OME/Maildir/ ?
[14:00] <sudorm> what does ":0H  do?
[14:00] <TJ-> sudorm: it's part of the procmailrc syntax
[14:00] <sudorm> ok I'll read this. What does it do?
[14:01] <sudorm> in this specific cas of :0H
[14:01] <TJ-> sudorm: Maildir mail storage usesd 1 file per email so is easy to work with; MBOX uses 1 file with all emails in so merging would be a pain
[14:02] <TJ-> sudorm: see http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/en/man5/procmailrc.5.html
[14:03] <TJ-> sudorm: "H    Egrep the header (default)."
[14:03] <sudorm> ok so grep the headers
[14:03] <sudorm> I understand thanks
[14:04] <sudorm> A last question TJ- : I just installed dovecot, but not postfix:  apt install dovecot-core dovecot-pop3d dovecot-imapd
[14:04] <sudorm> I then configured the MX and A records of DNS
[14:05] <sudorm> I then sent an email from gmail  to emaillater@mydomain.com. Should it work straightforward?  Or should I also install a MTA such as postfix, in order to be able to receive emails?
[14:05] <TJ-> sudorm: I am assuming you're operating a receiving MTA; I use postfix with Maildir storage
[14:06] <sudorm> TJ-, I mean: if I only want to *receive* emails and not send any, would theoritically  dovecot be enough alone? Or is a MTA mandatory to receive emails?
[14:07] <TJ-> sudorm: well procmail is usually integrated into the postfix receive flow so it is passed each email as it is received and decides what to do with it
[14:07] <TJ-> dovecot is just an IMPAPv4 access layer to where the MTA has put the emails
[14:08] <sudorm> TJ-, so dovecot alone cannot receive emails arriving  to the server?
[14:08] <sudorm> Isn't it a listening server on a certain port, able to receive emails?
[14:09] <TJ-> sudorm: no; dovecot is where clients connect to, to read their remotely stored emails.
[14:14] <sudorm> TJ-, ok thanks. So an additional MTA (like postfix) is mandatory, even to just receive emails?
[14:18] <TJ-> sudorm: not for the client to read them, but to receive emails from senders, yes
[14:19] <TJ-> client's don't 'receive' emails they just read them (although POP3 has the option to remove them from the server when fetched)
[14:38] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> so I upgraded to 21.04
[14:38] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> upgraded to kernel 5.14
[14:38] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> mesa newest
[14:38] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> installed 470 nvidia driver
[14:39] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> NVIDIA-SMI has failed because it couldn't communicate with the NVIDIA driver. Make sure that the latest NVIDIA driver is installed and running.
[14:39] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> dkms status
[14:39] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> nvidia, 470.63.01: added
[14:44] <TJ-> Ronalds_Mazitis_: "added" should be "installed"
[14:44] <TJ-> Ronalds_Mazitis_: therefore, presumably the nvidia kernel module wedge failed to build against the 5.14 kernel
[14:45] <TJ-> Ronalds_Mazitis_: if you used the shell command-line to install the package(s) it would have reported a failure and mentioned a DKMS build log where more info of the exact failure wouldbe found
[14:46] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> dude how much more inconvenient they could make this
[14:46] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> wthell I have to do
[14:48] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> so
[14:49] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> how do I make added to installed
[14:51] <TJ-> Ronalds_Mazitis_: you'll find the log somewhere under /var/lib/dkms/ - directories named for the module, and its version
[14:51] <jeremy31> sudo dkms install
[14:51] <TJ-> Ronalds_Mazitis_: try "find /var/lib/dkms -type f  "
[14:51] <jeremy31> Stupid phone
[14:52] <linsux> is there telegram group for ubuntu? so i can easily post image?
[14:52] <TJ-> !paste | linsux
[14:52] <linsux> yah i know. hate them
[14:53] <leftyfb> linsux: this is the official volunteer-run support chat. Why would you join a telegram group for support?
[14:54] <linsux> irc is not convenient to post screenshot and lines
[14:54] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> again, where that log was? I restarted again
[14:54] <ravage> im sure he can find a nice telegram group that takes his credit card information for "support" :)
[14:54] <TJ-> Ronalds_Mazitis_: try "find /var/lib/dkms -type f  "
[14:55] <leftyfb> linsux: if you do find a telegram group, I do not recommend seeking support from it.
[14:55] <TJ-> linsux: paste.ubuntu.com and imgur.com are very convenient for volunteers here
[14:56] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> there is no log
[14:56] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> just
[14:56] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> 8/var/lib/dkms/dkms_dbversion
[14:57] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> 2.0.0
[14:57] <Donald__> Hello guys, is there ubuntu desktop for ARM?
[14:57] <TJ-> Ronalds_Mazitis_: so something didn't work correctly
[14:58] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> dude like I did not do basic installation
[14:58] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> how did I fail
[14:58] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> ?
[14:58] <leftyfb> Donald__: https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/focal/daily-live/current/
[14:58] <TJ-> Ronalds_Mazitis_: look at the name / version of "dkms status" for the nvidia module
[14:58] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> I shoulda put my graphics card with holy water before installing it?
[14:58] <ogra> Donald__, there are 21.04 ad onwards images for raspeberry pi
[14:58] <TJ-> Ronalds_Mazitis_: then you can do "sudo dkms install <modulename>/<version>"
[14:58] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> nvidia, 470.63.01: added
[14:58] <leftyfb> Ronalds_Mazitis_: please leave the emotional comments out of the troubleshooting
[14:59] <TJ-> Ronalds_Mazitis_: so "sudo dkms install nvidia/470.63.01"
[14:59] <TJ-> Ronalds_Mazitis_: if that fails it'll provide a path to a build log where errors are reported
[14:59] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> Error! Your kernel headers for kernel 5.14.6-051406-generic cannot be found.
[14:59] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> Please install the linux-headers-5.14.6-051406-generic package,
[14:59] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> or use the --kernelsourcedir option to tell DKMS where it's located
[15:00] <Donald__> @ogra, noted, I am thinking if ubuntu is able to installed on Mac M1
[15:00] <TJ-> Ronalds_Mazitis_: there you go then
[15:00] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> E: Package 'linux-headers-5.14.6-051406-generic' has no installation candidate
[15:00] <leftyfb> Donald__: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/01/corellium-got-ubuntu-linux-running-on-m1-macs-and-you-can-too/
[15:00] <TJ-> Ronalds_Mazitis_: that looks like it was a mainline build that you likely downloaded manually, not through apt install ?
[15:01] <ogra> Donald__, i think we do have some people running server installs (for building ARM packages) on the M1 .... but to my knowledge the graphics driver has not been reverse engineered yet
[15:01] <leftyfb> Donald__: https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/06/28/apples-m1-now-supported-by-linux-kernel-in-version-513
[15:02] <ogra> Ronalds_Mazitis_, where did you get that kernel ? does not look like a supported kernel version at al
[15:02] <ogra> *all
[15:02] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> https://sypalo.com/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu
[15:02] <ogra> oh my
[15:02] <TJ-> Ronalds_Mazitis_: you'll need the 2 linux-headers packages (-generic- and all.deb) from https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v5.14.6/amd64/
[15:02] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> because dudes on #linux that I will need 5.14
[15:03] <ogra> i doubt you need 5,14 ...
[15:04] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> linux-headers-5.14.6-051406-generic depends on libc6 (>= 2.34); however:
[15:04] <Ronalds_Mazitis_>   Version of libc6:amd64 on system is 2.33-0ubuntu5.
[15:04] <ogra> your card has definitely been supported by the nvidia driver since at least -430 ... it should just work with enabling the drivers with one click
[15:04] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> it did not work
[15:04] <ogra> but it looks like you complretely messed up your install already
[15:04] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> on 20.04
[15:04] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> yeah I messed up
[15:04] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> I
[15:04] <ogra> like .... installing completely unsupported kernels etc
[15:04] <leftyfb> "<Ronalds_Mazitis_> so I upgraded to 21.04"
[15:04] <ogra> with that nothing  from the nvidia support bits will work anymore
[15:05] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> I could not boot 21.04 flashdrive
[15:05] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> cause bios could not find it
[15:05] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> blame me
[15:05] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> again
[15:05] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> I upgraded
[15:05] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> and I did what dude said to get 5.14
[15:05] <leftyfb> !enter | Ronalds_Mazitis_
[15:05] <leftyfb> Ronalds_Mazitis_: please pick whether you'd like support from #ubuntu or #linux. Not both
[15:06] <ogra> well, then ask "dude" for further help 🙂
[15:06] <ogra> since she seems to know what to do
[15:07] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> Command '​sudo' not found, did you mean:
[15:07] <Ronalds_Mazitis_>   command 'sudo' from deb sudo (1.9.5p2-2ubuntu3)
[15:07] <Ronalds_Mazitis_>   command 'sudo' from deb sudo-ldap (1.9.5p2-2ubuntu3)
[15:07] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> Try: sudo apt install <deb name>
[15:07] <leftyfb> !paste | Ronalds_Mazitis_
[15:07] <ogra> jumping back and forth between different support channels wont help a clear path forward
[15:08] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> so since 21 you can't add repo
[15:08] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> ?
[15:10] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> Command '​sudo' not found, did you mean:
[15:10] <ogra> Ronalds_Mazitis_, do you have any sensible data on that inatll ? it really looks messed up to a point where a re-install would be f more value
[15:10] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> wthell
[15:10] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> I did not mess anything up
[15:10] <leftyfb> Ronalds_Mazitis_: if sudo isn't working, you have a completely broken OS. Reinstall
[15:11] <ogra> well, you have a broken, unsupported kernel installed, sudo is missing
[15:11] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> well it's ubuntu's fault I did not do anything stupid
[15:11] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> and?
[15:11] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> I can't boot flashdrive
[15:11] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> I put ubuntu image on
[15:11] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> startup disk creator did not work
[15:12] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> or what
[15:12] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> hashes were right so
[15:12] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> again, I am guilty it does not work normally?
[15:12] <ogra> phew
[15:12] <leftyfb> oh not, they will be back
[15:13] <leftyfb> not/no*
[15:13] <ogra> for sure
[15:15] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> so how do I make linux flash drive with 21.04 to be seen on bios
[15:15] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> ?
[15:16] <linsux> https://imgur.com/a/Z26tl1I
[15:16] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> this is internet, and standart ubuntu issue
[15:16] <linsux> 20.04.3
[15:16] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> this is avarage pc
[15:17] <leftyfb> linsux: you can ignore those "Possible missing firwmare" messages if that is your question
[15:17] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> I had 20.04.3 nvidia di not work
[15:17] <linsux> you mean those are ok?
[15:17] <leftyfb> yes
[15:17] <linsux> ok
[15:18] <linsux> ok second problem: https://imgur.com/a/eLVyPi7
[15:19] <linsux> always 100% cpu
[15:25] <leftyfb> linsux: maybe try #kubuntu and ask why the KDE window manager is eating 100% CPU
[15:27] <linsux> ok
[16:11] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> well Nvidia drivers work outta box on ubuntu 21.04 for gtx 1650Ti
[16:12] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> most likely any new PC needs the latest ubuntu, if it has nvidia some sort of
[16:15] <ogra> this is why the official hwe stack exists, it provides drivers and kernels from newer releases to LTS releases
[16:18] <iammrmyth> hi
[16:20] <braindaemon> hi
[16:31] <jhutchins> Is there a simple utility to strip text out of an html document?
[16:36] <ogra> jhutchins, html2text
[16:36] <ogra> (from the same named package)
[16:41] <coke> ogra: something like intel gpu drivers fro ubuntu18?
[16:42] <ogra> coke, referring to my hwe command above ?
[16:42] <ogra> *comment
[16:42] <coke> yes
[16:42] <jhutchins> ogra: I knew there was something.
[16:43] <coke> I have to stay on 18 cause of a strange hardware but would like to use hw decoding of new intel Igpus
[16:43] <ogra> the hwe stack should definitely bring you the latest supported intel drivers too (along with a newer kernel, mesa, xorg)
[16:46] <coke> dont think that strange hardwares driver will compile for a newer kernel
[16:47] <jhutchins> ogra: Perfect, thank you.
[17:00] <privato89> Hi guys
[17:00] <privato89> I've installed Vbox machine on my Ubuntu 20.04 LTS
[17:01] <privato89> I noticed that after the installation the system has started to work bad
[17:02] <privato89> The resolution of the screen changes alone, the windows close down alone
[17:02] <privato89> I tried to remove that software but the issues are still there
[17:02] <privato89> Can someone help me?
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> privato89: if you mean your ubuntu system working bad, perhaps share your dpkg logs in a paste so volunteers can trace what happened exactly
[17:05] <privato89> lotuspsychje, can you explain me hot to have that datas to share them?
[17:06] <privato89> infos*
[17:06] <privato89> which command have I to launch on terminal
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> !pastebinit | privato89
[17:07] <privato89> which is the command for dpkg logs?
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> privato89: cat /var/log/dpkg.log | pastebinit
[17:20] <privato89> https://bpa.st/KTQA
[17:20] <privato89> that is my dpkg logs
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> privato89: system up to date to latest?
[17:27] <privato89> yes
[17:29] <lotuspsychje> privato89: apt giving you any kinds of errors?
[17:30] <privato89> no
[17:30] <lotuspsychje> privato89: ok, lets see a; dmesg | pastebinit please
[17:38] <privato89> lotuspsychje, https://pastebin.com/N0x0rJC1
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> wow
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> seems like your wifi chipset having a hard time there privato89
[17:41] <privato89> what means that?
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> privato89: that your atheros wifi network card is spamming so many messages into dmesg, its not normal
[17:47] <privato89> about what can depends that?
[17:47] <oerheks> removed vbox, did you restart after that to drop the vboxdriver and networking at all?
[17:48] <privato89> I removed already vbox and restarted the system
[17:48] <privato89> after I removed vbox i launched the command: sudo apt --purge autoremove
[17:49] <privato89> then: sudo apt update
[17:49] <privato89> thats all
[17:51] <oerheks> still something funny happening to your wireless.
[17:51] <oerheks> not sure what to do/see there
[17:53] <privato89> But Idk how to solve it
[17:56] <Intelo> I am using fish terminal andtrying nvm. I added export commands as instructed by the nvm installed but it cannot find node or npm. What can i do?  https://pastebin.mozilla.org/zJWsGaYs
[18:16] <BinarySavior> my ubuntu 20.04 network driver is not working, I'm not sure what happened, I was trying to reinstall the nvidia graphics driver because it was malfunctioning and now the network driver just stopped working
[18:17] <BinarySavior> but if I boot from usb 21.04 disk the network is working
[18:17] <BinarySavior> is there a way to upgrade my current ubuntu 20.04 installation to 21.04 using the usb disk? (without wiping the home directory)
[18:21] <ravage> plug in your phone in tethering mode and see if you get a network connection
[18:29] <leftyfb> BinarySavior: boot to the previous kernel
[19:05] <BinarySavior> leftyfb, booting to previous kernel has fixed the graphics card situation
[19:05] <BinarySavior> i mean network card
[19:06] <leftyfb> BinarySavior: sudo apt install linux-image-generic-hwe-20.04   # and don't mess with other kernels :)
[19:08] <BinarySavior> it appears to have worked, but there were some errors along the way, it couldn't find my kernel headers
[19:08] <BinarySavior> it says I should use --kernelsourcedir to tell DKMS where it's located
[19:09] <leftyfb> you probably saw errors with initramfs building your initrd for your other kernels which don't have the headers/modules installed which is what caused your original problem
[19:09] <leftyfb> BinarySavior: ( uname -a ; ls -l /boot/vm* ) | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:10] <BinarySavior> https://termbin.com/mfy0
[19:12] <nuala> grep -r --exclude-dir='content/some_dir' foo ; does not exclude some_dir... what do I do wrong @.@
[19:13] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> where to
[19:13] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> get
[19:14] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> Package libapache2-mod-wsgi is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[19:14] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> ?
[19:14] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> I can't believe standart packages don't come together
[19:14] <nuala> Ronalds_Mazitis_: which ubuntu version?
[19:14] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> 21.04
[19:15] <ravage> the package name is libapache2-mod-wsgi-py3
[19:15] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> libapache2-mod-wsgi-py3 is already the newest version (4.7.1-3build1).
[19:15] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> but I still can't a2enmod
[19:15] <nuala> ((https://packages.ubuntu.com/hirsute/ at the bottom theres also a searchable txt file ))
[19:16] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> sudo a2emod headers
[19:16] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> sudo: a2emod: command not found
[19:16] <ravage> fix the typo
[19:16] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> ah right
[19:18] <leftyfb> BinarySavior: you should be good. Reboot into the 5.11 kernel that got installed as part of HWE. The older ones should get removed on their own over time
[19:22] <ForeverNoob[m]> hello, is there a way to configure which secrets storage apps can use? Suppose I have kdewallet, gnome-keyring and keepassXC all installed on a system, but I want to prioritize keepassXC.
[19:24] <BinarySavior> i can't get my nvidia drivers to work on ubuntu 21.04: https://bpa.st/EXFQ
[19:24] <leftyfb> BinarySavior: you said you were running 20.04
[19:24] <BinarySavior> leftyfb, sorry that's right.  I am on 20.04
[19:25] <BinarySavior> my desktop is on 21.04 however and I've had similar issues with the new 470 driver
[19:25] <BinarySavior> I ended up installing from a .run file to get it to work on my desktop, which is what I tried on this laptop that messed with my kernel
[19:26] <Bashing-om> BinarySavior: Did you remember to disable secure boot before installing the driver ?
[19:26] <BinarySavior> I did not do that
[19:27] <Bashing-om> BinarySavior: Secure boot I can assume is doing its job :D
[19:27] <jhutchins> Which has longer shelf life, CD/DVD RW, or poered off spinning discs?
[19:28] <leftyfb> !ot | jhutchins
[19:28] <BinarySavior> do I need to disable secure boot before running ubuntu-drivers install?
[19:28] <leftyfb> jhutchins: optical media is not know for it's shelf live
[19:28] <leftyfb> BinarySavior: you should disable secure boot period
[19:29] <Bashing-om> BinarySavior: Yes - once the trusted driver is installed if ya want you can re-enable secure boot.
[19:30] <BinarySavior> I'm not even sure if it's enabled or not. I vaguely remember turning on legacy boot but I will go check
[19:30] <ioria> BinarySavior,   mokutil --sb-state
[19:31] <Bashing-om> BinarySavior: legacy boot and secure boot are 2 different things .
[19:31] <iogue> BinarySavior: what exaclty is the problem you have? I'm on a Ubuntu 20.04.3 with nvidia-driver-470 and 3 monitors right now
[19:31] <jhutchins> leftyfb: What about the 20+ y.o. floppies in the attic?
[19:32] <leftyfb> jhutchins: again, completely offtopic here. That said, if they're in an attic, the data on them is almost guaranteed to be gone by now.
[19:32] <ioria> demagnetized probably
[19:34] <summonner> the magnetic particles on each track will have realigned over time, so 1/0 will all be the same
[19:35] <BinarySavior> okay I confirmed secure boot is disabled and has been since I installed Ubuntu on here
[19:39] <iogue> BinarySavior: my system is pretty close to yours with a hybrid setup so here goes a link that may help you:
[19:39] <iogue> BinarySavior: https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/black-screen-on-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-mobile-with-nvidia-driver-470/189029
[19:40] <BinarySavior> thanks iogue which solution did you use?
[19:40] <BinarySavior> oh, nevermind, there's only one
[19:41] <iogue> :)
[19:44] <BinarySavior> iogue, the problem was even though the driver was installed, the graphics card wasn't being used, instead the onboard card was being used
[19:46] <iogue> BinarySavior: are you sure?
[19:47] <BinarySavior> in the link i posted when i typed lshw -c video it says *-display UNCLAIMED for my GTX 1050 Ti
[19:49] <iogue> BinarySavior: hum... is it a notebook? Are you using just the notebook screen or do you have anoter monitor pluged in?
[19:49] <BinarySavior> it's a notebook, i'm using it with a single display, no external monitors connected
[19:50] <BinarySavior> i tried the solution you posted, it's still not working
[19:51] <iogue> BinarySavior: I think I have never used my nootebook whithout using an external monitor. Have you tried to connect an external monitor with an hdmi cable to see if it uses the nvidea card?
[19:53] <BinarySavior> i've tried using cuda to process on the gpu but it fails
[19:53] <BinarySavior> i can try the HDMI hang on
[19:56] <BinarySavior> okay i have dual screen going on now with HDMI + laptop screen
[19:56] <BinarySavior> but if i run nvidia-settings I get a blank window with 2 buttongs (help quit)
[19:56] <iogue> BinarySavior: and with this setup is nvidea card been used?
[19:57] <leftyfb> BinarySavior: glxinfo -B | grep Device   # what does this give you?
[19:58] <BinarySavior> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
[19:59] <leftyfb> BinarySavior: uname -a
[19:59] <BinarySavior> this is what happens when i type nvidia-settings https://bpa.st/4NAA
[20:00] <BinarySavior> uname -a https://bpa.st/OIWA
[20:01] <leftyfb> BinarySavior: open the "Software & Updates" app and click on the "Additional Drivers" tab. What driver is selected?
[20:01] <BinarySavior> 470 (recommended)
[20:02] <BinarySavior> or i mean 470 (proprietary, tested)
[20:02] <BinarySavior> https://imgur.com/Rk0jo4T
[20:04] <BinarySavior> is it hardware failure?
[20:04] <BinarySavior> i doubt it, i could boot into windows and test it
[20:04] <iogue> BinarySavior: Very strange... it is the same system I have here and I have the same nvida card and the intel graphics card is almost the same (at list is the same chipset, I think): HD Graphics 630
[20:05] <BinarySavior> did you install the driver using ubuntu-driver?
[20:05] <BinarySavior> ubuntu-drivers*
[20:06] <iogue> BinarySavior: yes. directly with Software & Updates > Additional Drivers
[20:08] <iogue> BinarySavior: do you have a way to share a 500k file?
[20:08] <BinarySavior> yes
[20:08] <iogue> so run this:
[20:08] <iogue> sudo nvidia-bug-report.sh
[20:09] <iogue> and share the file with us, or open a post in that nvidea forum I have sent you
[20:12] <BinarySavior> alright, i switched to 470-server, then switched back to 470 using the software & updates, now i'm gonna reboot, if this doesn't fix it then i will run that script
[20:14] <iogue> BinarySavior: have you tryed the nvidia-driver-460 ?... I've seen some people trying this sucessfully
[20:15] <BinarySavior> i think i have tried it
[20:15] <BinarySavior> it's worth a shot again though
[20:16] <iogue> BinarySavior: that command will generate a gzip log file with lots of info about your system, you can gzip it and find for errors
[20:18] <iogue> say: gunzip it
[20:18] <BinarySavior> okay i installed 460, rebootin
[20:26] <iogue> BinarySavior: I'll have to leave now... I'll come back later
[20:26] <BinarySavior> ok
[20:27] <Bashing-om> BinarySavior: As I do follow along -- You do purge the old driver prior to attempting a bew driver install, right ?
[20:28] <Bashing-om> bew/new*
[20:38] <BinarySavior> Bashing-om, yes, i did remove && purge
[20:38] <BinarySavior> https://josh.vet/static/josh.vet/main_site/nvidia-bug-report.log.gz
[20:38] <BinarySavior> iogue, ^
[20:58] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> ffmpeg -version
[20:58] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> ffmpeg version 4.3.2-0+deb11u1ubuntu1 Copyright (c) 2000-2021 the FFmpeg developers
[20:59] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> Unknown input format: 'gdigrab'
[20:59] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> 21.04 :)
[21:01] <Ronalds_Mazitis_> ubuntu?
[21:47] <iogue> BinarySavior: Have you made some progress?
[21:51] <BinarySavior> ok i figured it out
[21:52] <BinarySavior> i had a blacklist file preventing the driver from loading
[21:52] <BinarySavior> i just deleted the blacklist file and rebooted and now it seems to be working
[21:53] <BinarySavior> iogue, ^working
[21:54] <iogue> BinarySavior: wow!... simple to make it work... hard to find it! Good news!
[21:56] <Bashing-om> !yay | BinarySavior