[00:22] <KGB-0> gnome-system-monitor signed tags d7e3f7c Jeremy Bicha upstream/41.0 * Upstream version 41.0 * https://deb.li/uBXy
[00:22] <KGB-0> gnome-system-monitor upstream/latest 1d5e58b Jeremy Bicha * pushed 31 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3YBAn
[00:22] <KGB-0> gnome-system-monitor upstream/latest e3200e0 Daniel Mustieles help/es/es.po * Updated Spanish translation * https://deb.li/34bIs
[00:22] <KGB-0> gnome-system-monitor upstream/latest 14ccb12 Ask Hjorth Larsen po/da.po * Updated Danish translation * https://deb.li/ijnpU
[00:23] <KGB-0> gnome-system-monitor upstream/latest b75b020 Balázs Meskó po/hu.po * Update Hungarian translation * https://deb.li/iAQF
[00:23] <KGB-0> gnome-system-monitor upstream/latest c9d4d8a Ask Hjorth Larsen help/da/da.po * Updated Danish translation * https://deb.li/3Q291
[00:23] <KGB-0> gnome-system-monitor upstream/latest 13cfdf7 ToMe25 .gitlab-ci.yml * Add automated build test on fedora * https://deb.li/qnSd
[00:23] <KGB-0> gnome-system-monitor pristine-tar aaa7f1c Jeremy Bicha gnome-system-monitor_41.0.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-system-monitor_41.0.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-system-monitor_41.0.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3VFXV
[00:27] <KGB-0> gnome-disk-utility signed tags 87a42cd Jeremy Bicha upstream/41.0 * Upstream version 41.0 * https://deb.li/3RB5G
[00:28] <KGB-0> gnome-disk-utility upstream/latest 71109bc Jeremy Bicha * pushed 17 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/L2NR
[00:28] <KGB-0> gnome-disk-utility upstream/latest b96b095 Dušan Kazik po/sk.po * Update Slovak translation * https://deb.li/3qbEv
[00:28] <KGB-0> gnome-disk-utility upstream/latest 54520c8 Boyuan Yang po/zh_CN.po * Update Chinese (China) translation * https://deb.li/i3nky
[00:28] <KGB-0> gnome-disk-utility upstream/latest 657fe35 Goran Vidović po/hr.po * Update Croatian translation * https://deb.li/QbVE
[00:28] <KGB-0> gnome-disk-utility upstream/latest c3579ff Guido Günther data/ gnome-disk-image-mounter.desktop.in gnome-disk-image-writer.desktop.in org.gnome.DiskUtility.desktop.in * desktop-file: Add X-Purism-Form-Factor * https://deb.li/3Hnle
[00:28] <KGB-0> gnome-disk-utility upstream/latest 379ad15 Guido Günther data/org.gnome.DiskUtility.appdata.xml.in * metainfo: Add minimum screen size requirement and input recommendations * https://deb.li/VAgI
[00:28] <KGB-0> gnome-disk-utility pristine-tar c04d3df Jeremy Bicha gnome-disk-utility_41.0.orig.tar.xz.delta gnome-disk-utility_41.0.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for gnome-disk-utility_41.0.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3irxz
[05:55] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[05:59] <ricotz> oSoMoN, hey
[06:02] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN and ricotz 
[06:11] <ricotz> hello duflu 
[06:12] <oSoMoN> hey ricotz & duflu 
[06:43] <didrocks> good morning
[06:43] <jibel> Good morning everyone
[06:45] <didrocks> salut jibel 
[06:45] <jpnurmi> good morning
[06:51] <duflu> Morning didrocks, jibel, jpnurmi 
[06:53] <jpnurmi> hey duflu
[06:53] <didrocks> hey duflu, jpnurmi 
[06:53] <jpnurmi> hey didrocks
[06:54] <jpnurmi> did anyone try https://convos.chat/ ?
[06:55] <jpnurmi> makes irc almost feel modern
[06:57]  * didrocks should admit I’m sill using a CLI tool for IRC
[07:00]  * jpnurmi has been using a home-made client for 12 years :x
[07:11] <jibel> hi didrocks duflu jpnurmi 
[07:11] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[07:11] <jpnurmi> hi jibel and seb128
[07:12] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks, jibel, seb128 
[07:12] <oSoMoN> hey jpnurmi 
[07:12] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN 
[07:12] <didrocks> hey seb128 
[07:12] <jpnurmi> hey oSoMoN
[07:16] <seb128> hhey jpnurmi, duflu, lut oSoMoN didrocks jibel, how are you?
[07:17] <oSoMoN> doing good, how are you yourself?
[07:17] <seb128> I'm alright thanks!
[07:19] <didrocks> ça va, et toi ?
[07:19] <seb128> nickel!
[07:20] <jibel> I'm good thanks
[07:22] <duflu> Morning seb128. Getting sicker, but surviving...
[07:22] <seb128> duflu, sorry to read :-(
[07:22] <oSoMoN> take it easy duflu, I hope you get better soon
[07:23] <seb128> you should call it a day early and get some rest
[07:23] <duflu> I'm mostly functional
[07:23] <seb128> oSoMoN, kenvandine, any idea why we still have core18 on the current impish daily?
[07:24] <seb128> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yZnqFVtjhV/
[07:24] <seb128> that's the manifest diff between before the firefox landing and after, snap:gnome-3-34-180 was removed but I would have expected core18 to also go?
[07:26] <oSoMoN> afaik there's nothing requiring core18 any longer, snap-store and firefox are both core20 based
[07:27] <oSoMoN> and gtk-common-themes is based on bare
[07:33] <seb128> indeed :/
[07:33] <seb128> mwhudson, ^ any idea?
[07:36] <seb128> mwhudson, unping
[07:37] <seb128> $ snap info --verbose gtk-common-themes_1515.snap | grep base
[07:37] <seb128> base:     core18
[07:37] <seb128> $ snap info --verbose gtk-common-themes  | grep base
[07:37] <seb128> base:         bare
[07:37] <seb128> the snap was downloaded with
[07:37] <seb128> $ UBUNTU_STORE_ARCH=amd64 SNAPPY_STORE_NO_CDN=1 snap download --cohort= --channel=stable/ubuntu-21.10 gtk-common-themes
[07:37] <seb128> hum
[07:37] <seb128> snapd bug?
[07:37] <seb128> jamesh, ^ any idea there of what's going on?
[07:38] <jamesh> seb128: we changed the base to bare
[07:39] <seb128> jamesh, ah, I was on the candidate channel and snap info gives you the info of the channel you are using
[07:39] <seb128> k, that's why
[07:39] <jamesh> seb128: the rationale is outlined in this thread: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/call-for-testing-gtk-common-themes/26242
[07:39] <seb128> jamesh, any eta on landing the bare based one to stable?
[07:40] <seb128> or in stable/ubuntu-21.10
[07:40] <seb128> that's currently pulling core18 on the impish iso
[07:40] <seb128> which we probably don't want since we moved snap-store and firefox to core20
[07:40] <seb128> kenvandine, ^
[07:40] <jamesh> seb128: in short, we wanted to avoid cases where gtk-common-themes was the only snap bringing in core18, while not forcing the download of core20 on systems only using core18 snaps
[07:41] <jamesh> I'll look at pushing it to stable
[07:41] <seb128> jamesh, right, sorry my question was not clear, I understand what is happening with the base
[07:41] <seb128> jamesh, I just want core18 out of the impish ISO, which means promoting the candidate theme to stable
[07:41] <seb128> thanks
[07:41] <oSoMoN> or to stable/ubuntu-21.10
[07:42] <seb128> right, or that
[07:42] <seb128> lower impact for now if we don't want to do the jump for stable
[07:45] <jamesh> it's on stable now. Do I need to do anything extra for the branch?
[07:46] <jamesh> or will that just take what's currently stable?
[07:51] <seb128> jamesh, thanks! it takes what is in stable since the channel is closed
[07:51] <seb128> confirmed it works
[07:51] <seb128> $ UBUNTU_STORE_ARCH=amd64 SNAPPY_STORE_NO_CDN=1 snap download --cohort= --channel=stable/ubuntu-21.10 gtk-common-themes
[07:51] <seb128> ...
[07:51] <seb128>    snap install gtk-common-themes_1519.snap
[07:51] <seb128> $ snap info --verbose gtk-common-themes_1519.snap | grep base
[07:51] <seb128> base:     bare
[07:52] <jamesh> I guess we'll need to find room for bare.snap on the ISO now
[07:52] <seb128> :)
[07:52] <seb128> oh
[07:52] <seb128> jamesh, so we need bare seeded?
[07:52] <jamesh> yes
[07:53] <seb128> ok, livecd-rootfs should do the right thing
[07:54] <seb128> it basically does
[07:54] <seb128>             snap_info=$(snap info --verbose ${snaps_dir}/${SNAP_NAME}_[0-9]*.snap)
[07:54] <jamesh> I think it'd try to download "bare" otherwise, which would fail if the network isn't up at that point
[07:54] <seb128>             local core_snap=$(echo "$snap_info" | grep '^base:' | awk '{print $2}')
[07:54] <seb128>             _snap_preseed $CHROOT_ROOT $core_snap stable
[07:55] <jamesh> It'll never be used since no code runs in the context of the gtk-common-themes snap, but snapd will want it to be there
[07:57] <RikMills> is it intended to have both the Firefox snap and deb on the ISO for the beta?
[08:00] <RikMills> oh, the stuff to integrate has no landed yet. I saw the merge requests and assumed they had
[08:00] <RikMills> ignore me ;)
[08:01]  * RikMills needs more coffee
[08:01] <RikMills> oh, and good morning :)
[08:02] <seb128> RikMills, hey, and read #ubuntu-release backlog
[08:05] <oSoMoN> good morning RikMills 
[08:11] <RikMills> seb128: thanks, I missed that in -release
[08:32] <seb128> Trevinho, hey, did you figure anything out with the issue from o_SoMoN yesterday?
[08:33] <seb128> oSoMoN, did you want to me upload the ubuntu-settings change for the default launcher config update?
[08:39] <oSoMoN> seb128, as you wish, I can do it if you're busy
[09:07] <Trevinho> seb128: hey, well not much... Olivier pointed a VirtualBox bug, and looks a possibility, as Xorg starts. 
[09:08] <Trevinho> oSoMoN: if you want we can try something else to see if we can isolate the error better 
[09:09] <oSoMoN> Trevinho, sure, I'll be juggling with other tasks, but if you have suggestions to debug further I'm eager to test them
[09:21] <seb128> oSoMoN, I will do it, just wanted to ask before to make sure we don't dup work
[09:22] <oSoMoN> ack
[09:28] <Trevinho> oSoMoN: I'd suggest to go to a tty I'm the vm (use chvt if you're in ssh) then there launch screen or byobu so you can handle stuff better from ssh.... Connect there and try to launch `XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/tmp/foobar dbus-run-session mutter --display-server --wayland` and see if something appears... I if it does and it's responsive, replace mutter with gnome-shell and check again 
[10:33] <seb128> Trevinho, I just saw you ported xdg portals to fuse3, or did you end up there? ;-)
[11:52] <Trevinho> seb128: oh, I saw mail in Ubuntu devel, so I decided to spend some night time to see how complicated it was... And was not :-)
[11:52] <seb128> Trevinho, you are awesome ;-)
[12:32] <Trevinho> seb128: ahah, too good
[12:33] <Trevinho> I see if tonight I've also some time for open-vm-tools, doesn't seem that hard.
[12:34] <Trevinho> iirc is the only other one blocker which has not a port available, for the rest there should be already something so that we can prepare the transition early next cycle
[12:55] <oSoMoN> well done Trevinho!
[12:55] <Trevinho> :)
[14:47] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers!
[14:47] <oSoMoN> hey hellsworth 
[14:48] <hellsworth> hi there oSoMoN 
[14:50] <laney> oSoMoN: heya, just saw the snap stuff for firefox - nice one. just fyi, you probably want to add it to: https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-upgrader/tree/DistUpgrade/deb2snap.json so that update-manager and the release upgrader do the right thing
[14:50] <laney> and hi everyone!
[14:50] <hellsworth> hi laney !!!!
[14:50]  * laney high fives hellsworth 
[14:50] <laney> what up?
[14:51] <hellsworth> all kinds of buoyant things
[14:51] <hellsworth> :)
[14:51] <seb128> hey laney, how is the new life?
[14:51] <seb128> we are missing you around!
[14:52] <laney> heeeeeeeeeey seb128 
[14:52] <seb128> and not only because we don't have any european around to handle beta requests :p
[14:52] <laney> I'm all about the kubernetes now
[14:52] <laney> heh
[14:52] <laney> kill all freezes, kill all releases, that's what I say
[14:52] <seb128> hellsworth, hey! is that wanted that the indaba is on saturday? https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-desktop-team-indaba-ama-september-25-2021-5pm-utc
[14:52] <laney> Ubuntu Continuous Delivery
[14:52] <hellsworth> seb128: nope good catch
[14:58] <hellsworth> thanks seb128 i've updated the discourse post :)
[14:59] <seb128> 👍
[15:10] <seb128> jbicha, Trevinho, any idea about the gtk4 build failure on ppc? it has been retried enough to be proved to not be flacky so we need to either remove the new version from impish or have someone working on fixing it
[16:15] <oSoMoN> hey laney! yep, that's here: https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+git/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+merge/408838
[16:21] <laney> oSoMoN: ah! nice one
[16:22] <laney> running the snap now btw :-)
[16:22] <oSoMoN> cool, please share your feedback, I'm particularly interested in functional regressions compared to the deb
[16:26] <laney> copied the profile in manually, not sure if I missed some magic there
[16:41] <oSoMoN> laney, if you install the snap from the stable/ubuntu-21.10 channel, you'll get the profile importer that does the necessary magic to import your existing profiles in ~/.mozilla/firefox/ (assuming the snap hasn't been run before)
[16:41] <oSoMoN> and this will soon hit the stable channel
[16:41] <laney> ah, I installed beta, I wanted 93 to potentially fix https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1722369
[16:43] <oSoMoN> ah, beta doesn't have that yet, but it should of course, I'll fix that
[16:43] <laney> 👍
[16:43] <oSoMoN> pushed to the beta packaging branch, it will be picked up at the next beta rebuild
[16:44] <oSoMoN> that won't make a difference for you unless you delete the contents of ~/snap/firefox/common after refreshing
[16:44] <oSoMoN> because the profile importer is a one-off thing
[16:47] <laney> ack
[16:47] <laney> might try it for testing
[18:39] <GunnarHj> seb128, jbicha, Trevinho: As regards failed ppc64el tests: For gnome-shell I brutally disabled the tests for ppc64el. Apparently not an ideal 'solution', but it allowed it to build and migrate for now. A possibility for gtk4 too?
[18:39] <GunnarHj> https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gnome-shell/-/commit/17adb371
[18:40] <seb128> GunnarHj, hum, while I think there are probably almost no user of the shell on ppc that might not be as true from gtk, how confident are you that it's a test issue and not a real problem?
[18:41] <GunnarHj> seb128: I'm not confident at all, which is why I mentioned it. (Should have done so previously, but forgot.)
[23:55] <KGB-1> jsonrpc-glib signed tags 8f64c78 Jeremy Bicha upstream/3.40.0 * Upstream version 3.40.0 * https://deb.li/DSbG
[23:55] <KGB-1> jsonrpc-glib upstream/latest 8e0dced Günther Wagner (5 files in 3 dirs) * message: add the possibility to inject messages * https://deb.li/TY5y
[23:55] <KGB-1> jsonrpc-glib upstream/latest 29f6950 Christian Hergert (5 files in 3 dirs) * Merge branch 'inject_variant' into 'master' * https://deb.li/iiiF4
[23:55] <KGB-1> jsonrpc-glib upstream/latest 87a30dd Christian Hergert NEWS * Release 3.40.0 * https://deb.li/Qege
[23:55] <KGB-1> jsonrpc-glib upstream/latest 12ea772 Jeremy Bicha (6 files in 3 dirs) * New upstream version 3.40.0 * https://deb.li/VslA
[23:56] <KGB-1> jsonrpc-glib pristine-tar 9a70e4d Jeremy Bicha jsonrpc-glib_3.40.0.orig.tar.xz.delta jsonrpc-glib_3.40.0.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for jsonrpc-glib_3.40.0.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3T7ai