[00:35] <ezakimak> what package provides the 'file' command?
[00:36] <sarnold> $ dpkg -S /usr/bin/file
[00:36] <sarnold> file: /usr/bin/file
[00:36] <ezakimak> this system doesn't have it installed
[00:36] <ezakimak> thus why I ask, dpkg can't solve it
[00:39] <ezakimak> found it. nm. apt-file search.
[01:33] <donofrio> why extend LTS to ten years and not include all ARCH's?  tinyurl.com/ubuntu10yearslts (looks like no ppc32/64be and no x86-32?)
[01:38] <skoobasteeve> 32bit and PPC is a whole nother can of worms
[01:38] <skoobasteeve> credit where credit is due they are doing what they can
[02:31] <Firefishe> Does anyone have any information on using ubunto (any flavor) with a M$ Surface Book 3 laptop?  The keyboard and touchpad and touch screen don't function, so I wonder if anyone has a ppa compiled module that could be inserted at boot time for this functionality?
[02:31] <Firefishe> ubuntU rahter
[02:31] <Firefishe> rather
[02:33] <skoobasteeve> Firefishe: Don't have experience with that model but I know it's generally difficult on those devices
[02:33] <skoobasteeve> you can check here and see if they're working on it
[02:33] <skoobasteeve> https://github.com/linux-surface/linux-surface
[02:34] <Firefishe> skoobasteeve: Thank you.
[03:27] <england_bound> hello
[03:30] <yukiup> Hi
[03:30] <england_bound> how are you?
[03:30] <yukiup> good
[03:30] <yukiup> itchy
[03:31] <england_bound> i feel that. try calamine lotion
[03:34] <Firefishe> skoobasteeve: Well, I read up a bit.  I'm compiling a custom kernel now.  Wish me luck.  I haven't done this in about a decade.
[03:34] <england_bound> i have no idea how to do it, since im new to computers. Sounds fun
[03:35] <Firefishe> skoobasteeve: I'm just hoping the modules load properly at boot time.
[03:35] <england_bound> fair enough
[03:35] <Firefishe> england_bound: Are you talking to me?
[03:36] <Firefishe> Too bad.  I wanted to tell him/her/they to try compiling a kernel.  It's fun and frustrating.  Good computer stuff! ;-) LOL
[07:35] <wwwi> hello
[07:35] <wwwi> do you need a domain name, to use postfix?
[07:49] <ducasse> for incoming mail, yes
[08:03] <wwwi> ducasse, I see, thanks.
[08:05] <ducasse> wwwi: be aware that you also most likely can't use it on a home connection
[08:08] <wwwi> ducasse, I see, useful information, thank you.
[08:09] <wwwi> ducasse, what kind of connection do I need?
[08:09] <ducasse> wwwi: most isps block the necessary ports on home connections and the ip ranges are blacklisted, so you need a business connection or a rented server
[08:10] <wwwi> ducasse, I see.
[08:12] <ducasse> wwwi: a fair amount of vps providers are blacklisted too, so research before you buy
[08:12] <ducasse> and an email server is not the easiest thing to run
[08:29] <wwwi> ducasse, I see. Thanks.
[08:32] <kylesinlynn> Oh shit
[08:59] <BrianHechinger[m> Does anyone know the ETA for nvidia-proprietary drivers 470.74 to hit the graphics ppa?
[09:24] <vuurdraak> is there anything special about that driver, im currently using 470.63.01
[11:03] <nborisov> hello is there a way to get  newer networkmanager on focal?
[11:04] <nborisov> current one is 1.22 i'd like 1.30 or 1.32 ?
[11:07] <tarzeau_> nborisov: backport a later version?
[11:07] <nborisov> tarzeau_, well has anyone already done this so i can simply install a package?
[11:09] <nborisov> let me reconnect just real quick
[11:19] <tarzeau_> nborisov: is that 20.04 ? or which one?
[11:19] <nborisov> 20.04 yes
[11:20] <gunnakaa> hello I quite nev user of Ubuntu and I am trying to get the tinc vpn to work. I hawe an problem to make username by following the description on the Ubunto store. Am also trying to connect to the tinc nettvork that is not happening anything. Are there an correct way of type in the terminal acording to get an username in tinc-vpn?
[11:20] <gunnakaa> sorry my hopless english :/
[11:22] <nborisov> tarzeau_, so yeah, 20.04
[11:25] <gunnakaa> Yes Ubuntu 20.04 is what I am running
[11:25] <tarzeau_> nborisov: you first have to figure in which packgae it is, i think?  dpkg -S `which NetworkManager`
[11:25] <nborisov> well i know it - it's network-manager
[11:26] <tarzeau_> nborisov: i usually do something like this: dget http://deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/n/network-manager/network-manager_1.30.6-1.dsc; dpkg-source net*.dsc; cd net*/; debuild
[11:27] <tarzeau_> you might want to take http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/network-manager/network-manager_1.32.10-0ubuntu1.dsc
[11:27] <tarzeau_> if that looks impossible, fall back to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/network-manager/network-manager_1.30.0-1ubuntu3.dsc
[11:27] <tarzeau_> or upgrade to hirsute for 1.30, or impish for 1.32
[12:04] <fdan> i get this error since today
[12:04] <fdan> Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[12:04] <fdan> what could be the issue
[12:06] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:06] <alkisg> !paste
[12:06] <alkisg> fdan: it means the server can't be contacted. If you put the whole output to a pastebin, we'll tell you which server that is
[12:07] <oerheks> without errors in a pastebin, we guess
[12:07] <oerheks> and tell us what ubuntu version
[12:11] <fdan> https://dpaste.org/Dzib
[12:12] <oerheks> oh, join #debian for that..
[12:12] <oerheks> 'our' ppa seems not to be the problem
[12:19] <alkisg> fdan: like oerheks says, you're using debian, not ubuntu; join #debian and ask there...
[12:19] <fdan> ok
[12:59] <kernel> greetings
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> welcome kernel
[14:26] <jmaselbas> hi, I am looking for a stress-ng maintainer, I don't know where to search.
[14:28] <oerheks> jmaselbas, colin king; https://snapcraft.io/stress-ng
 "is there anything special..." <- Liquorix upgraded to 5.14 and while 470.63 does install it gives me a black screen.
[15:04] <oerheks> for what nvidia card?
[16:14] <BrianHechinger[m> 3080Ti
[16:16] <ghostnik11> can anyone help me with trying to get back to my system. i used a boot-repair disk to try and fix the issue but still i keep booting to grub-rescue
[16:16] <ghostnik11> https://pastebin.com/G4cN7yDe
[16:18] <ghostnik11> is it possible to wipe out the uefi off of a system? like just get rid of it all together b/c it keeps giving me problems when i have to install ubuntu or any linux os. its one of those 32 bit uefi built on top of a 64bit architecture
[16:19] <alkisg> Press del to enter setup, check for CSM or Legacy mode
[16:22] <ghostnik11> alkisg: i have it set up for no uefi but just getting ubuntu to install is too much of a headache. i want it to be erased and just back to normal or is it impossible due to the bios?
[16:25] <alkisg> No, it should be easy; format the disk in mbr, not in gpt then
[16:25] <oerheks> all 32 bit uefi machines i know, cannot be switched
[16:26] <oerheks> i wonder how you get 64 bit linux running on that
[16:30] <ghostnik11> oerheks: i have had 64 bit running for many years on it. but i got it installed and now i wanted to update and installed a new version of ubuntu but now i keep getting grub rescue and when i try from live disk to drop down to command prompt and boot via the linux and initrd commands. i then get stuck at intrams
[16:31] <ghostnik11> oerheks: alkisg: i think its b/b they created this garbage uefi with 32 bit on top of 64 architecture.
[16:31] <ghostnik11> oerheks: there is no purpose to uefi, other than to make it harder for people to install linux
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> BrianHechinger[m: did you try other kernel/nvidia driver version combo?
[16:34] <oerheks> it is just a cheap machine that did not want to pay for 64 bit uefi
[16:34] <oerheks> and send us the issues
[16:35] <BrianHechinger[m> lotuspsychje: 460 doesn't work with 5.14 (not without a patch) but it works fine with 5.13. I've not tried 470.63 with any other kernels though, no
[16:35] <oerheks> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[16:35] <oerheks> grub-efi-ia32
[16:35] <oerheks> that is your bug
[16:36] <ghostnik11> oerheks: yeah i seen that. it keeps giving this: /sbin/grub-install: error: failed to register the EFI boot entry: No such file or directory.
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> BrianHechinger[m: whats your current ubuntu release?
[16:36] <BrianHechinger[m> 21.04
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> BrianHechinger[m: are you testing wayland or xorg?
[16:37] <BrianHechinger[m> I'm on Xorg (Ubuntu Studio)
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> ah kk
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic hirsute
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> try this kernel BrianHechinger[m and switch driver versions on your current kernel
[16:38] <BrianHechinger[m> I can go back to generic or liquorix 5.13, it's just not super critical right now so I was curious if 470.74 would make things work
[16:38] <BrianHechinger[m> but, it's not available in the ppa yet
[16:38] <BrianHechinger[m> and I don't know of another sane way to install it
[16:39] <oerheks> 470 is published for hirsute https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-470/470.63.01-0ubuntu0.21.04.2
[16:39] <BrianHechinger[m> that's 470.63
[16:39] <BrianHechinger[m> but now lotuspsychje has me interested if 470.63 works with generic or not.
[16:40] <oerheks> 2 days old, wait for it
[16:41] <BrianHechinger[m> Right, which is why I was asking about an ETA. :)
[16:42] <BrianHechinger[m> Until Proton fully supports RTX/DLSS I have to reboot to play CP2077 anyway, so like I said, not a critical issue. :D
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> seems like these days ubuntu nvidia driver versions match the graphics ppa equaly
[16:43] <lotuspsychje> !nvidia
[16:44] <lotuspsychje> BrianHechinger[m: usualy we advice the latest driver(s) for big RTX cards
[16:47] <ghostnik11> oerheks: okay i think i will find a way to fix it. b/c i remembered i installed ubuntu 16.04 in the past with no problems. i will follow this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/815618/how-to-resolve-this-grub-efi-ia32-error-in-asus-t100-of-16-04
[16:51] <ghostnik11> oerheks: also when i had tried to after running ubiquity -b. after that i did try to install the bootloader but it froze the system when it came to install grub
[16:51] <BrianHechinger[m> So I don't understand reddit timestamps but it looks like 470.63 was released about a month ago and the ppa build is 4 weeks old so it shouldn't be long to wait.
[17:56] <Guest22> Hi all, what would be the route to take if you have a ubuntu host and a windows 7 QEMU/libvirt guest and wanted to give internet access to the guest but restrict what can come in on a whitelist basis?
[17:56] <Guest22> so like everything is blocked perhaps like a firewall unless allowed through
[17:56] <Guest22> or at the least, the ability for the host to block certain ports etc?
[18:04] <coconut> Guest22, Timekpr or CTParental perhaps?
[18:07] <Guest22> hmm
[18:07] <Guest22> ill have a look
[18:07] <Guest22> thx
[18:11] <fedorafan_altern> hey guys i copy some stuff over wifi from ubuntu to mac osx and now i cant open cause of the permissions
[18:53] <fedorafan_altern> are you all dead
[19:16] <Intelo> Is there a package in ubuntu/  thing that can make a function/flow/chain textual or diagram for me?  I wish I could see function call chains in type of diagram generated by my code. It's nicer to visuallize. like a(p1,p2) -> b() -> c() so one
[19:20] <sarnold> Intelo: I know I've seen something *simple* in debian a decade ago or something, but wow it's hard to find it again now
[19:21] <sarnold> Intelo: I used a beta of this perhaps eight years back, it was pretty neat, https://www.sourcetrail.com/
[19:30] <Intelo> sarnold truely fantastic. free. but doesn't supports my langauge : javascript/typescript
[19:30] <sarnold> oh man, that's probably a very difficult language to support
[19:31] <sarnold> granted, it probably needs such a tool way more than C..
[19:31] <zinanis> hello
[19:34] <Intelo> sarnold maybe its dynamic.
[19:35] <Intelo> sarnold nice tip though. any other keywords or tools to consider?
[19:35] <sarnold> Intelo: all my apt-cache search queries were things like "call graph" "code graph" etc. but those returned *so* many results
[19:36] <Intelo> hm
[20:06] <zph1nx> Hello, i am trying to automate my install with autoinstall in 20.04, and when presenting a manual partition table to autoinstall it crashes with "unknown error crashed with ValidationError" is this a known bug?
[20:07] <dbungert> zph1nx: are you able to pastebin a sample?
[20:08] <sarnold> zph1nx: that doesn't sound familiar to me, no; pastebin the config?
[20:11] <zph1nx> dbungert sarnold https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/D4jpTrP5pX/
[20:13] <zph1nx> i did snip serial of the disk out though
[20:15] <dbungert> zph1nx: you might need to put serial back, curtin handles the storage part and it tends to want the serial
[20:16] <sarnold> zph1nx: the late commands, one is in quotes, the other not; does that matter?
[20:16] <zph1nx> @dbu
[20:17] <zph1nx> ergh, anyhow, the problem is that this autoinstall is supposed to match a wide varaity of server disks.
[20:17] <dbungert> zph1nx: fair, let me dig a bit
[20:20] <dbungert> zph1nx: ok, so the storage config is valid according to curtin, so that part should be fine
[20:21] <dbungert> zph1nx: can you pastebin /var/log/installer/subiquity-server-debug.log?
[20:25] <zph1nx> seems it hangs now
[20:27] <dbungert> when?  befor starting the install?  around the late commands time?
[20:27] <zph1nx> i did manage to get a screenshot of it earlier
[20:27] <dbungert> yea, the full backtrace would help if you have it
[20:40] <ghostnik11> oerheks: hey just a quick question b/c i am not understanding the instructions for this particular information on how to get grub back. i am stuck at the point with sudo mount /dev/mmclbk1p2 /mnt vs. sudo mount /dev/mmcblk1p2 /boot/efi
[20:40] <ghostnik11> https://askubuntu.com/questions/260297/why-12-04-fails-to-install-grub-efi-to-target/774537#774537
[20:41] <ghostnik11> thats the instruction if anyone can tell me. should i do sudo mount /dev/mmcblk1p2 /mnt first and then sudo mount /dev/mmcblk1p2 /boot/efi and then the other commands?
[20:43] <ghostnik11> i am trying to figure out if i should bind it to /boot/efi instead of /mnt
[20:44] <genii> ghostnik11: What sort of device is this, a desktop ... laptop ... something else?
[20:45] <ghostnik11> genii: its a something else (one of those low powered 2 in 1 tablets with a 32 bit uefi on top of 64 bit architecture
[20:45] <genii> So then it may not use grub but something else like U-boot
[20:45] <ghostnik11> genii: but i am about to solve my problem, i just want to make sure i do it in the correct order.
[20:45] <ghostnik11> genii: it does use grub
[20:46] <genii> hm
[20:46] <ghostnik11> genii: its just that the 32 bit uefi causes problems when installing a new copy of ubuntu
[20:46] <genii> ghostnik11: Yes, that is also a common issue with older Macs with 64bit systems but 32bit EFI/UEFI
[20:46] <ghostnik11> genii: i had it working with previous versions of ubuntu but wanted to do an update and fresh install and something with less resource hogging
[20:47] <ghostnik11> genii: but i am going to just try with the sudo mount /boot/efi instead of sudo mount /mnt
[20:47] <ghostnik11> genii: i will see how it works out
[20:52] <sybariten> oh hai
[20:53] <sybariten> I have a fujitsu mini desktop machine, which used to work allright, with a Ubuntu 20 install i believe. On a SATA drive, no other OSes. Now i suddenly get a "boot error", not much other info, when turning it on.
[20:53] <sybariten> I'm typing this from the machine, booted from a USB Lubuntu distro. The BIOS sees the Western Digital hard drive. Is there any analysis i can do from inside Lubuntu now to see whats up with the drive?
[20:54] <_7zip> E
[20:59] <genii> sybariten: First you can find out what drive it is with: sudo fdisk -l  and find the corresponding drive and partition designations. Then to check the filesystems of partitions of that drive using syntax like: sudo fsck /dev/sdx9  but put the actual partition instead of sdx9
[21:00] <ghostnik11> okay so i keep getting errors with sudo mount /dev/mmcblk1p2 /boot/efi
[21:00] <ghostnik11> it keeps saying /boot/efi does not exist
[21:01] <zph1nx> dbungert https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Ng2Jn3xrKK/
[21:01] <sybariten> genii: yeah i'd guess its sda from the looks of it. Theres a two gig sdb too but i dont know what that does. so i'll run fsck on that partition then
[21:01] <zph1nx> sorry it took awhile, had to set up a reverse ssh tunnel
[21:02] <genii> sybariten: Remember to run the fsck command on the partitions, and not on the entire device
[21:03] <genii> ghostnik11: Whatever directory you try to mount things to must already exist
[21:03] <ghostnik11> genii: but it does exist
[21:03] <dbungert> zph1nx: you need a "version: 1" under autoinstall, looks like.  autoinstall: version: 1
[21:05] <zph1nx> dbungert id did have it, but last in the file, since i snipped the autoinstall from a manual install and ran it
[21:05] <zph1nx> ill give it a try setting it just below autoinstall
[21:05] <sybariten> aha. sdab2 i would guess   https://pastebin.com/Td9Hvkmk
[21:05] <dbungert> order shouldn't matter, but in the run with that traceback it seems to be not there.
[21:05] <genii> ghostnik11: Does: ls /boot  show a directory named efi in it? If not then it doesn't
[21:06] <sybariten> genii: i took a copy paste there of the fdisk output
[21:06] <ghostnik11> genii: no but i am a bit confused b/c i am on a live ubuntu cd. so when i do ls /boot is it looking at the live usb side?
[21:07] <genii> ..for that matter I can't remember if livecd/usb even has /boot
[21:07] <genii> ghostnik11: That's correct, you are looking at the filesystem in ramdisk the livecd/usb made
[21:08] <ghostnik11> genii: yeah b/c when i run ls /boot it gives me a few stuff and i know when i check via file manager i see more stuff
[21:09] <sybariten> genii: https://pastebin.com/ARBtZs8h
[21:11] <ghostnik11> genii: what if i ran: sudo mount /dev/mmcblk1p2 /boot
[21:11] <ghostnik11> genii: since it might then mount it in order
[21:13] <_7zip> OwO
[21:13] <Guest2195> hi
[21:13] <Guest2195> hi
[21:14] <zph1nx> dbungert https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zWWNYCjv67/ seems i ran into another error
[21:14] <Guest2195> how do I change my ubuntu version to an older one?
[21:15] <genii> ghostnik11: The prudent thing to do is mount it to /mnt  and then get a file listing of /mnt and see if the contents of this are actually the contents which are expected to be seen in the machine's native /boot directory first to make sure you are working on the correct partition
[21:15] <genii> \
[21:15]  * genii wanders back to work for a bit
[21:15] <sybariten> ill try the boot-repair tool and see what happens
[21:16] <ghostnik11> genii: okay i will see if i can do that. but i also have to help a friend go over some questions. so i am going to have to take a pause. thanks for the help bro
[21:16] <leftyfb> Guest2195: you don't. Why do you think you need to?
[21:19] <dbungert> zph1nx: not sure why that's failing, might be a bug, looking
[21:21] <zph1nx> i removed the offending key though, it wouldnt take the linux generic kernel as a package argument, which is fine for me i suppose.
[21:22] <dbungert> that's a generated autoinstall, right?  looks like it has an extra level of kernel (kernel: kernel: package)
[21:22] <dbungert> instead of kernel: package
 I want to because My current version of linux is a little unfriendly with me
[21:28] <leftyfb> Guest2195: what version of Linux wound that be?
[21:29] <dbungert> zph1nx: yes, I'm seeing multiple invalid things in an autoinstall I just generated from subiquity, so that's for sure a bug
[21:33] <ghostnik11> genii: yep you were right when i run ls /mnt/boot
[21:33] <ghostnik11> thats where the efi folder for /boot/efi is located for my /dev/mmcblk1p2 partition
[21:37] <zph1nx> dbungert now however is crashes without any schema errors and throws errors, i think manual partition setups are quite shaky in 20.04
[21:41] <dbungert> zph1nx: thanks for all the debug info.  This is a nice reminder about the autoinstall we generate from subiquity, so I'm planning to add a test case to our automated tests to help check that the autoinstall we generate isn't overtly broken.
[21:41] <dbungert> if you're still up for debugging I'd like a look at the next crash log
[21:42] <zph1nx> ill try and grab it, i run this through packer and qemu, and for some reason qemu likes to take the image down after a few minutes
[21:51] <zph1nx> dbungert https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hYwSj9syX6/
[22:00] <sybariten> anyone know if grub-install is generally a "safe" process? I am trying to salvage a machine that won't boot anymore
[22:00] <sybariten> I'm suspecting because of having turned off the machine with the power button a number of times
[22:01] <valderen> sybariten: I believe it'll be ok. All update-grub does is scan the system for OS's and kernels then creates a new grub config file.
[22:03] <sybariten> update-grub?
[22:04] <sarnold> update-grub is called by /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub
[22:04] <sarnold> as part of the kernel upgrade process
[22:06] <dbungert> zph1nx: curtin is unhappy about something, and the info isn't in the subiquity log :(  This might be salvagable but it involves analyzing the systemd journal
[22:07] <sybariten> ok...
[22:08] <zph1nx> dbungert if you tell me where to look i can check
[22:08] <zph1nx> want the journalctl -xe output?
[22:09] <dbungert> please
[22:12] <dbungert> mwhudson: thanks for peeking in, here's the most recent log  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hYwSj9syX6/
[22:12] <mwhudson> having a look at /var/crash/1632347240.061345577.install_fail.crash would be helpful
[22:18] <zph1nx> dbungert https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GsHVwsWGnS/
[22:18] <zph1nx> Sep 22 22:13:35 ubuntu-server subiquity_log.2121[2423]:         Stderr: Could not create partition 2 from 4096 to 31455231
[22:18] <zph1nx> Sep 22 22:13:35 ubuntu-server subiquity_log.2121[2423]:                 Could not change partition 2's type code to 8300!
[22:18] <zph1nx> does look like the offender.
[22:20] <mwhudson> zph1nx: is it possible the system you installed this on to get the autoinstall file had a larger disk than the one you're installing now?
[22:22] <zph1nx> mwhudson: they're both supposed to be 15GB, the idea is to provision a small image and then blow it up via rc.local once its dd'ed to a disk
[22:23] <mwhudson> 'sgdisk', '--new', '2:4096:31455231'
[22:23] <zph1nx> although now i just noticed im off a GB in the packer.json file
[22:23] <mwhudson> how big is that in actual units i understand :)
[22:24] <mwhudson> just under 15 GiB
[22:25] <zph1nx> my idea of running MaaS fell on deaf ears, so we're dd'ing ubuntu installs via sccm now instead :/
[22:31] <zph1nx> setting -1 for size for the pv seems to have solved it
[22:36] <zph1nx> dbungert mwhudson huge thanks to you both
[22:37] <mwhudson> zph1nx: ah great
[22:37] <mwhudson> there are a few things here
[22:37] <mwhudson> 1) we are really bad about presenting install failures in a comprehensible way
[22:37] <dbungert> zph1nx: thanks for sticking with it, we got some good data here
[22:38] <zph1nx> yeah, it's not very verbose
[22:38] <mwhudson> 2) it would be good if you followed the guided flow to do an install, the autoinstall file that got spat out used the guided flow
[22:40] <zph1nx> mwhudson: does the output change depending on if i go guided or manual?
[22:43] <mwhudson> zph1nx: no
[22:43] <mwhudson> but maybe it should
[23:32] <Undekan> JO
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[23:36] <TheRealSoundWave> Hey all, I'm trying to use apt-offline and I'm in a pickle. When a do apt-offline install upgrade.zip --verbose, it does not install anything, just telling me the files in the zip are synced
[23:38] <sarnold> TheRealSoundWave: try an apt-get upgrade?
[23:39] <sarnold> "After successful completion of Sequence 1 and Sequence 2 in order, further running apt-get upgrade will result in 0 bytes of additional download."
[23:40] <TheRealSoundWave> apt-offline is for update/upgrading and installing packages on offline devices
[23:41] <sarnold> TheRealSoundWave: yes, and it's entirely possible that apt-offline has pushed the downloaded contents into the apt cache
[23:41] <sarnold> TheRealSoundWave: it'd be nice if the manpage would just outright say what it does, but it sure sounds to me like a quick apt upgrade will do the job :)
[23:43] <TheRealSoundWave> so if everything is in the apt-cache, could I do a upgrade
[23:43] <sarnold> I hope so, yeah
[23:43] <TheRealSoundWave> How then
[23:45] <TheRealSoundWave> the manpage says apt-offline install do the following : install installs APT data to the APT package database and updates i
[23:46] <TheRealSoundWave> the manpage says apt-offline install do the following : install installs APT data to the APT package database and updates it
[23:48] <superdad> Does anyone happen to have experience ipxe booting the ubuntu cloud images?
[23:49] <superdad> Trying to ipxe boot them on vsphere and baremetal, and can't seem to get it to work.
[23:49] <sarnold> TheRealSoundWave: just try running 'apt upgrade'