[12:31] <xu-irc59w> Hi guys, Got a problem with my m570 wireless mouse. It stopped working and I pretty sure it's a ubuntu issue
[12:32] <gnrp> xu-irc59w: I suppose Logitech M570?
[12:32] <xu-irc59w> yep thats the one
[12:33] <gnrp> it's a proprietary wireless protocol though, not bluetooth? All the OS will see is a generic USB device
[12:33] <gnrp> you can check dmesg if it is recognized
[12:33] <gnrp> what could also happen is that the receiver and the trackball disassociate
[12:34] <gnrp> then you would need Windows with the Logitech software to re-couple them, as far as I know
[12:34] <gnrp> xu-irc59w: Do        sudo dmesg | grep Logitech
[12:34] <gnrp> and paste the output
[12:34] <gnrp> !paste
[12:34] <xu-irc59w> it's recognized, and paired , I can even get the bat power
[12:34] <gnrp> oh, ok
[12:34] <gnrp> with Windows?
[12:35] <xu-irc59w> works fine in windows, and I got 2 not working
[12:35] <xu-irc59w> Is ubuntu blocking non encrypted connections?
[12:35] <xu-irc59w> cause my k400 keyboard is working fine
[12:36] <gnrp> xu-irc59w: Ubuntu should not really know anything about the connection anyway
[12:36] <gnrp> xu-irc59w: Is it recognized, though? (run the dmesg command)
[12:36] <xu-irc59w> it knows it's not encrypted 
[12:42] <xu-irc59w> working now. reboot might have fixed it.
[12:42] <gnrp> lol, ok^^
[12:42] <xu-irc59w> On a side note, I've been having a poor experance with xubuntu recently
[12:43] <xu-irc59w> quite a few UI hangs and just weird behaviore sometimes
[12:44] <gnrp> xu-irc59w: What kind of behavior is that?
[12:44] <gnrp> I surely cannot really help with that, but there might be others here in the channel
[12:45] <xu-irc59w> like firefox on youtube leaks memory and can lock up the UI  
[12:46] <gnrp> xu-irc59w: If you have a memory leak with firefox, you should make a bugreport
[12:48] <xu-irc59w> Going to boot this computer back to xubuntu and see if it's mouse is fixed too, thx for the help o/
[13:30] <dreamon> Hello. Gimp is crashing by copy and paste. Using xubuntu 20.04 it had to do with clipboard manager I found out. but what can I do?
[13:31] <dreamon> On IRC#gimp ->the fix is in Qt, maybe xubuntu wants to backport that into 20.04: https://codereview.qt-project.org/c/qt/qtbase/+/306771
[13:31] <dreamon> Qt told me to tell it on xubuntu.. where can I send a bug for it?
[13:33] <gnrp> !bug
[13:33] <gnrp> dreamon: Definitely makes sense to report a bug for this
[13:34] <gnrp> however, is this a xubuntu or a ubuntu thing?
[13:35] <dreamon> gnrp, I only use xubuntu.. cant tell you
[13:35] <gnrp> I just realize the bot redirects to the general ubuntu bug reporting anyway, so it's also good
[13:35] <dreamon> I use copyq as clipboard manager, but is already use different clipboard manager with same crash to gimp
[13:39] <dreamon> I think is not only a Ubuntu thing -> https://www.gimpusers.com/forums/gimp-user/21012-gimp-crash-on-copy-paste
[13:39] <dreamon> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1291401/gimp-crashed-on-20-04
[13:40] <dreamon> fix is to uninstall clipboard managers.. :(
[14:11] <oerheks> try the latest 'edge' ?? https://snapcraft.io/gimp .. or maybe the stable 21024 is fixed?
[19:33] <knfevg> Hello everybody. I've got over 60 computer running 18.04 LTS i386 build. Is there anyway I can upragde to the latest 20.04 LTS or do I have to do clean installs on all 60 machines?
[19:37] <gnrp> knfevg: (not really helpful) I guess the information on https://wiki.debian.org/CrossGrading helps as much as it can
[19:38] <gnrp> but in general, this operation is very complicated and error-prone. If I were you, I would re-install rather than migrating. The chances to spend a lot of time on this are lower with a re-installation than with a migration
[19:41] <knfevg> Hmmm, yes, just scrolled through this and it indeed looks like a brute force solution.... Given these computers have to run an unattanded kiosks, I cannot risk stability or security issues....
[19:41] <gnrp> if this is your concern, then you should surely rather go for a re-installation. You will surely not end up with a "clean" system
[19:42] <knfevg> Ok. What would be a good imaging tool to deploy over 60 computers (basicly making a golden image and than giving out USB sticks to technicians that are very expereinced and they need to boot from the USB to flash the image)?
[19:43] <knfevg> We used to use Macrium but it's pricey....
[19:46] <gnrp> I did not do that for a long time. Back in the days, I used FAI (Fully Automated Install), but I think nowadays one might use different tools