[11:56] <tsimonq2> I'd like some more insight on https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-session/359 - was this tested first on Lubuntu? Right now it seems like it's causing our Openbox theme to not be applied at all, was this intentional? 
[11:58] <tsimonq2> To clarify, that environment variable handling was used to set the settings in /usr/share/xsessions/Lubuntu.desktop - now they aren't being applied at all.
[11:59] <RikMills> tsimonq2: 'page not found' on that link
 It was intentional upstream. We need a bug filed for it and a fix. I think we have an rc.xml file we install and we just need to take the lxqt-rc file and apply it.
 I don't think we will need that in the desktop entry then.
[12:00] <tsimonq2> RikMills: Sorry, https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-session/pull/359
 I am sorry I haven't had any time to work on it.
 To make life worse I am on jury duty this week.
[12:01] <tsimonq2> Do you have more details as to what you've seen so far? I'm willing to fix it, would just like to know where it's at.
[12:01] <tsimonq2> lubot_: Ouch.
 I think wxl made a task
 I know that if you mv lxqt-rc.xml rc.xml our theme gets applied.
[12:03] <tsimonq2> Well, if it's that simple, it shouldn't be that hard to knock out. :)
 in the ~/.config/openbox/ directory
[12:04] <tsimonq2> Wow, yeah, that's a one-liner.
[12:04] <tsimonq2> Can confirm.
 nice
[12:05] <tsimonq2> Running a bugfix through the usual paces, will update in a few. :)
 🙏
 Your timing is incredible.
[12:07] <tsimonq2> Well, I saw it on my own machine. :)
[12:34] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: lubuntu-default-settings (impish-proposed/universe) [21.10.1 => 21.10.2] (lubuntu)
[12:35] <tsimonq2> Uploaded. Do we have release notes drafted anywhere?
[12:36] <apt-ghetto> tsimonq2: Can you link the debdiff? I don't see the commit on phab
 Thanks. I don't have anything drafted yet
[12:37] <tsimonq2> Pushing momentarily. Tested on a fresh VM.
[12:37] <tsimonq2> lubot_: No problem. I'll work on something late this evening if nobody gets to it first.
[12:40] <guiverc> i posted  https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/lubuntu-impish-indri-21-10-beta-testing-week/2735 for testing-week purposes on discourse.. release notes NEED to thank fahim for providing wallpaper & greeter background  (discourse; thread being https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/lubuntu-impish-indri-21-10-beta-testing-week/2735)
[12:43] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: accepted lubuntu-default-settings [source] (impish-proposed) [21.10.2]
 thanks <kc2bez> yes it is present in the current LTS. This is the output of 'cat /etc/os-release':
 NAME="Ubuntu"
 VERSION="20.04.3 LTS (Focal Fossa)"
 ID=ubuntu
 ID_LIKE=debian
 PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS"
 VERSION_ID="20.04"
 HOME_URL="https://www.ubuntu.com/"
 SUPPORT_URL="https://help.ubuntu.com/"
 BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/"
 PRIVACY_POLICY_URL="https://www.ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and-policies/privacy-policy"
 VERSION_CODENAME=focal
 UBUNTU_CODENAME=focal (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <kc2bez> @Rodrigo I think one of the first steps is to verify your issue exists in a newer version of Lubuntu so that we know it is a current bug that hasn't been fixed.)
 Kudos to <apt-ghetto> has saved my day with help in the support channel. So I want to contribute to Lubuntu. Unfortunately I am not a developer. But have some time and enthusiasm :)
[14:37] <apt-ghetto> https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/B/Contributing.html lists some ways to help
 Thanks
 Is it still present in 21.04 or 21.10? (re @Rodrigo: thanks <kc2bez> yes it is present in the current LTS. This is the output of 'cat /etc/os-release':
 NAME="Ubuntu"
 VERSION="20.04.3 LTS (Focal Fossa)"
 ID=ubuntu
 ID_LIKE=debian
 PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS"
 VERSION_ID="20.04"
 HOME_URL="https://www.ubuntu.com/"
 SUPPORT_URL="https://help.ubuntu.com/"
 BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/"
 PRIVACY_POLICY_URL="https://www.ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and-policies/privacy-policy"
 VERSION_CODENAME=focal
 UBUNTU_CODENAME=focal)
[18:33]  * Eickmeyer pulls a teward and salts tsimonq2
[18:34] <tsimonq2> Beta images respun, please verify that the setting changes stuck.
[18:35]  * tsimonq2 throws a cat at Eickmeyer @Eickmeyer:libera.chat
[18:35]  * Eickmeyer 's dog eats tsimonq2's cat
[18:40] <teward> *literally drops a crate of crap on top of @tsimonq2*
[18:41] <tsimonq2> TEWARD!
[18:41] <tsimonq2> HE IS ALIVE!
[18:53] <teward> technically speaking
[18:53] <teward> i've been alive a lot more than you have been :p
[19:01] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Impish Beta] has been updated (20210923)
 Tested the beta images and openbox login = black screen after login - (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <tsimonq2> Beta images respun, please verify that the setting changes stuck.)
[22:01] <guiverc> tsimonq2, kc2bez , you don't really want all tests re-performed? or do you?
 I don't think it is necessary.
 As long as the default settings change made it in and is working.
[22:07] <guiverc> @Leokolb is the only one to have done a live test & used openbox.. happy/unhappy with Leok's comment ^ as black screen to me is expected
[22:08] <guiverc> I noticed no changes with Lubuntu (install/live)
 We had the wrong Openbox theme in the Lubuntu session.
 It should be Lubuntu arc instead of the clear looks
 Also I think the key bindings would have been off.
 If that didn't change then we need to go back and give it a look.
[22:11] <guiverc> blimey, I'd have hoped to have notice that  (lubuntu arc vs clearlooks)..  will boot it again
 If the title bar to the window is blue it will give it away.
 I haven't made it to a computer yet, I'm still on my phone.
[22:16] <guiverc> theme arc-darker icons adwaita (neofetch) BUT wm.prefs says Lubuntu.Arc is used
[22:17] <guiverc> I don't see the 'blue'; it's black/grey to me 
 ok sounds like it is good then.
[22:18] <guiverc> ark-darker was the GTk3 theme sorry ^
[22:19] <guiverc> (neofetch doesn't appear to show Qt5 theme)
 I think that would have been unaffected. Only the Openbox theme/settings were wrong.
[22:20] <guiverc> clearlooks appears to be the light-blue one; lubuntu.arc more a whitish-black (dark grey)
 yup
[22:21] <guiverc> clearlooks-3.4 a less-light-blue
 So it should have a ~/.config/openbox/rc.xml file and not a lxqt-rc.xml correct.
[22:24] <guiverc> Sorry if you were asking me I don't know sorry.  I saw your & Simon's discussion last night but being tired was soon in bed
 No worries.
[22:25] <guiverc> i'll change & look at where it's stored
 I guess I was asking a question. I was just looking for confirmation in the latest daily.
 lxqt-rc.xml is no longer used in LXQt so it is useless
 it needs to be rc.xml
[22:26] <guiverc> 21.10.2 (lubuntu-default-settings) is on the ISO, @Leokolb confirmed it was on manifest
 awesome.
[22:26]  * guiverc used apt-cache policy on live session
 perfect
 I think it fixed the issue then.
[22:28] <guiverc> yeah rc.xml is the only file in ~/.config/openbox & has my opensuse like Clearlooks-Olive change
 Excellent. Thanks for confirming.
[22:28] <guiverc> (it's green - i could have said Ubuntu-MATE like; sorry)
 "Chelsea Cucumber" XD
[23:24] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Impish Beta] has been marked as ready