[11:37] <daftykins> happy weekendings
[11:38] <zxmpi> merry saturdaying
[12:29] <penguin42> yawwwwnnns
[13:36] <zxmpi> oh goodie, my new cdo keyboard arrived :-P https://i.redd.it/ms24xmnyhmp71.jpg
[13:54] <penguin42> oh weird
[13:55] <penguin42> odd punctuation placement as well
[13:56] <zxmpi> well when you've changed every other keys placement it seems a shame not to move them
[13:57] <penguin42> I wonder if it started out as French layout
[13:58] <zxmpi> the accents on the number row suggest somewhere non english speaking
[13:59] <penguin42> but I think it's only the French who are mad enough to have shifted numbers
[18:11] <m0nkey_> zxmpi: what is that horror?
[18:12] <zxmpi> someone posted it on reddit as an artwork
[18:37] <daftykins> :S
[21:56] <m0nkey_> daft question, but is there a release of ubuntu that doesn't have snap enabled by default?
[21:57] <m0nkey_> or should i embrace snaps and not worry about it?
[21:58] <m0nkey_> and can I move /home/$user/snap to something like /home/$user/.snap .. I like a clean home dir
[21:58] <daftykins> kubuntu doesn't have it, at least in 20.04 - no idea about newer
[22:01] <m0nkey_> that's kde, right? .. i'm not a fan if it is. i much prefer gnome.
[22:01] <daftykins> blech then you're stuck with their sauce!
[22:01] <daftykins> at least i am led to believe it relies on it, i just purge snapd when i see it
[22:02] <m0nkey_> i'll try it in a vm
[22:37] <m0nkey_> de-snapifying wasn't difficult
[22:37] <m0nkey_> nothing broke, which is good
[22:37] <m0nkey_> lol. but the store is gone, so there's that. 
[22:37] <daftykins> \o/
[22:37] <daftykins> that's a plus
[22:39] <m0nkey_> it's a simple process, remove all snap packages, remove snapd and the gnome plugin.. put the snapd package on hold in apt, reboot and done.