| klausfiend | what kernel command line option should i use with the U20 installer to prevent it from trying to DHCP on all NICs? | 00:05 |
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| Swift110-mobile | hey all | 02:46 |
| yukiup | hi Swift110-mobile | 02:48 |
| Ginalo | o/ | 02:48 |
| guiverc | klausfiend, your question was vague.. u20? no such release; Ubuntu Core 20? Ubuntu 20.04 LTS? etc.. even if 20.04 which ISO? as that dictates the installer (ubiquity, subiquity, calamares if flavor).. etc. Ubuntu doesn't use a single installer (even though a number are di compatible for the most part) | 02:58 |
| klausfiend | guiverc: specifically the 20.04 LTS autoinstaller | 03:09 |
| klausfiend | the new method doesn't use preseed any longer and it doesn't seem to respect the options i used to use with preseed to specify the boot NIC | 03:10 |
| guiverc | ubiquity? subiquity? calamares? you've not said if desktop, server, flavor etc. that define the installer used on ISO | 03:10 |
| klausfiend | ah, sorry, subiquity | 03:11 |
| klausfiend | but the problem isn't the installer per se | 03:11 |
| klausfiend | it's the initrd options | 03:11 |
| klausfiend | in this case it's the initrd that comes from the netinstall ISO | 03:11 |
| dbungert | I see some network options in the casper manpage, is that what you're already using klausfiend ? | 03:12 |
| klausfiend | sec, lemme get you the options i'm using | 03:12 |
| klausfiend | imgargs vmlinuz ip=dhcp ipv6.disable=1 interface=eth0 biosdevname=0 net.ifnames=0 root=/dev/ram0 ramdisk_size=1800000 url=http://installserver/images/ubuntu20/ubuntu-20.04.3-live-server-amd64.iso ds=nocloud-net;s=http://installserver/cloud-init/ fsck.mode=skip ro autoinstall initrd=initrd | 03:14 |
| klausfiend | in our case we're setting the value for "interface" programmatically (so it's not always going to be eth0, hence part of the problem) | 03:14 |
| dbungert | if you controlled the network config from subiquity autoinstall, would that be too late? | 03:17 |
| klausfiend | yeah, the problem is that all of our hardware has multiple NICs, and a majority are connected via LACP trunks, so booting off the non-primary NIC has a high probability of failure | 03:19 |
| klausfiend | (not to mention our provisioning system keys devices to their primary MAC) | 03:19 |
| dbungert | casper manpage sounds like it doesn't acknowledge an interface option, and instead that's part of the ip option. though I don't know if it has the granularity to just do dhcp on one interface. | 03:20 |
| xboxbml | ok, i got ubuntu 21.04 loaded on my Air successfully.. finally.. now, my printer does not work with ubuntu. It does work with Mint..any ideas? it's a Canon MP560 | 03:38 |
| TJ- | xboxbml: how is the printer connected? network or USB or something else? | 03:43 |
| xboxbml | network.. | 03:45 |
| xboxbml | it works in macos and linux mint but not ubuntu.. | 03:46 |
| xboxbml | i usb'd it and it comes up.. i usually have it usb'd to my windows desktop and all other machines print wireless to it.. | 03:49 |
| TJ- | xboxbml: CUPS is used for printer connections, and nowadays expects devices to do IPP. Have you used the CUPS local web admin interface to search for the device? | 03:51 |
| TJ- | xboxbml: as in http://localhost:631/ | 03:51 |
| xboxbml | no i don't think so.. i'm very new to linux.. i did the add printer and it searches and cups comes up by default | 03:52 |
| xboxbml | i tried to send something to it and it says could not start the printer please check configuration | 03:55 |
| xboxbml | ugh | 03:55 |
| TJ- | CUPS is developed by Apple so it should behave very similarly across OSes even. Note however it relies on MulticastDNS for discovery (zeroconf/bonjeur) so firewall rules or network organisation can cause problems. E.g. the printer needs to be in the same Ethernet broadcast domain as the PC | 03:55 |
| TJ- | xboxbml: the PC has discovered the printer then? | 03:55 |
| xboxbml | yeah this is my home network.. | 03:56 |
| xboxbml | everything on same subnet | 03:56 |
| xboxbml | but printer on wireless and this machine is wired | 03:57 |
| xboxbml | main wifi/router in basement and second one up here in office just acting like an AP | 03:57 |
| xboxbml | and switch | 03:57 |
| xboxbml | TJ: well i discovered that somehow it wasn't connected on wifi.. i fixed that and it is pingable | 04:12 |
| xboxbml | however, it still will not print | 04:12 |
| TJ- | xboxbml: well, that's progress! Not being connected is a major problem :D | 04:14 |
| TJ- | xboxbml: has CUPS discovered it on the network and added a driver for it? | 04:14 |
| xboxbml | yeah i can't figure who did that or why it was like that.. | 04:14 |
| xboxbml | crap, now my machine is hosed searching for printers | 04:15 |
| TJ- | if you've previously connected the printer via USB, then that 'printer' won't work and you'll need to add a 2nd 'printer' on the network connection | 04:16 |
| xboxbml | yeahi know.. that's what i'm doing | 04:16 |
| TJ- | OK :) | 04:16 |
| xboxbml | i removed usb and connected it back to desktop | 04:16 |
| xboxbml | i think i gotta restart...brb | 04:17 |
| loganlee | hello what is the offtopic channel's name? | 04:21 |
| lotuspsychje | !ot | 04:22 |
| Swift110-mobile | oh | 04:22 |
| ubottu | #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 04:22 |
| loganlee | thx | 04:22 |
| xboxbml | TJ: i'm back | 04:38 |
| xboxbml | also had to fix wifi issue on this air.. | 04:38 |
| xboxbml | so i can ping the printer by ip | 04:39 |
| TJ- | xboxbml: does CUPS discover the printer though? | 04:44 |
| xboxbml | well, i say add a printer and the big icon circles and it comes up with the MP560 and CUPS-BRF-Printer | 04:45 |
| xboxbml | still does same thing if i select the CUPS printer | 04:46 |
| xboxbml | kinda ticking me off | 04:47 |
| TJ- | it discovers that info from the printer itself, via mDNS service discovery (this is IPP - Internet Printer Protocol) - it is possible the printer isn't providing the correct info - often the case it is incomplete or incorrect | 04:48 |
| xboxbml | i'm fortunate this printer still works with catalina.. not really sure how i got it to work | 04:48 |
| xboxbml | but it does work on mint | 04:48 |
| TJ- | e.g I have Samsung colour laser on network; it works with IPP brilliantly, even understands and uses IPv6! But, it doesn't listen on the IPv6 address to print!! | 04:49 |
| TJ- | (but advertises that it does listen on IPv6 via its mDNS-SD IPP records!) | 04:49 |
| xboxbml | i go into Additional Printer Settings.. | 05:01 |
| xboxbml | click Add | 05:01 |
| xboxbml | Generic CUPS-BRF comes up along with Enter URI and Network Printer.. I expand network printer and I see the Canon MP560 at 192.168.1.5... | 05:02 |
| TJ- | xboxbml: I always use the CUPS admin not the desktop GUI tools which dumb everything down | 05:03 |
| xboxbml | I click on it and it wants to search for drivers.. i go into canon and that model isn't there | 05:03 |
| TJ- | xboxbml: as I said earlier https://localhost:631/ | 05:03 |
| TJ- | xboxbml: if the printer offers IPP it'll be listed as such so you get much more info, and choices | 05:04 |
| xboxbml | ok i see ipp.. selected it now what | 05:05 |
| xboxbml | there's a Enter device URI at the top | 05:05 |
| TJ- | if the printer was listed as a discovered network printer that should be filled automatically | 05:05 |
| xboxbml | crap.. wish i could copy/paste screenshots | 05:08 |
| klausfiend | dbungert, guiverc, does the the new autoinstaller tooling use Casper for everything? | 05:09 |
| klausfiend | or rather, is casper the init process for the subiquity autoinstaller? | 05:10 |
| dbungert | init process, to my understanding | 05:11 |
| xboxbml | this just sucks.. this printer...ugh | 05:12 |
| dbungert | once you make it as far as subiquity, casper really isn't super relevant | 05:12 |
| dbungert | but from your use case, klausfiend, I'm not sure the subiquity network stuff will help you if you have to get it sorted out before subiquity starts. | 05:13 |
| klausfiend | dbungert: so i'm pretty well-read on preseed but this subiquity stuff is still pretty new to me, where does the actual bootstrap tooling get loaded from? cpio tells me the only thing in the U20 live ISO initrd is some kernel microcode | 05:16 |
| dbungert | I'm fuzzy on that part, I mostly know what goes on once subiquity takes over :) | 05:16 |
| pony | how can I add a launcher to the dashboard for an executable that lives at ~/.local/kitty.app/bin/kitty? It doesn't let me 'add to favourites' | 05:16 |
| klausfiend | dbungert: bummer :-( thanks for your insights | 05:17 |
| TJ- | klausfiend: cpio is not good for reading initrd.img; you want unmkinitramfs -- that understands images that have microcode pre-prended | 05:18 |
| klausfiend | TJ-: oh yeah? | 05:18 |
| klausfiend | lemme try that | 05:18 |
| TJ- | klausfiend: that'll extract the actual code into a sub-dir ./main/ | 05:19 |
| klausfiend | nothing to see, unfortunately: | 05:19 |
| klausfiend | /tmp/u20/ | 05:19 |
| klausfiend | /tmp/u20/early | 05:19 |
| klausfiend | /tmp/u20/early/kernel | 05:19 |
| klausfiend | /tmp/u20/early/kernel/x86 | 05:19 |
| klausfiend | /tmp/u20/early/kernel/x86/microcode | 05:19 |
| TJ- | "unmkinitramfs /boot/initrd.img path/to/directory" | 05:19 |
| klausfiend | ugh, sorry about that | 05:20 |
| klausfiend | looks like i got muted | 05:20 |
| klausfiend | is there a better way to paste stuff here | 05:21 |
| xboxbml | i booted mint and got all the printer settings | 05:22 |
| TJ- | klausfiend: why do you need to paste it? we already know what the listing looks like | 05:23 |
| klausfiend | right, but i tried unmkinitramfs and it only found the microcode, same as cpio | 05:25 |
| lotuspsychje | xboxbml: did you try adding your canon tru gnome systemsettings? | 05:26 |
| lotuspsychje | xboxbml: some canons might need extra drivers too | 05:26 |
| xboxbml | have no idea how to do that | 05:26 |
| xboxbml | didn't have to do that in mint | 05:27 |
| lotuspsychje | xboxbml: systemsettings/printers/add printer | 05:27 |
| xboxbml | that's what i've been doing | 05:27 |
| lotuspsychje | and does it list? | 05:27 |
| xboxbml | yeah | 05:28 |
| xboxbml | but it wants to search for drivers and goes into the vendor list.. i select Canon but there is no MP560 in there | 05:28 |
| pony | found solution here nvm https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/binary/#desktop-integration-on-linux | 05:30 |
| lotuspsychje | xboxbml: few ppa's here; https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2442510 | 05:31 |
| klausfiend | ugh, i see something in the squashfs image that leads me to believe the behavior i'm trying to modify is fixed | 05:34 |
| TJ- | klausfiend: where is this file you're aiming unmkinitramfs at? | 05:35 |
| klausfiend | TJ-: i did this: unmkinitramfs /mnt/storage/images/ubuntu20/initrd /tmp/u20 | 05:37 |
| klausfiend | this is what's in the casper squashfs, though: https://termbin.com/wb3fz | 05:38 |
| TJ- | klausfiend: right, what I meant was where is that initrd coming from? is it in an Ubuntu ISO image, or did you build it yourself? | 05:38 |
| klausfiend | TJ-: it's straight from the U20 netinstall ISO | 05:40 |
| TJ- | klausfiend: "U20" means nothing to me | 05:41 |
| TJ- | klausfiend: we have 20.04 and 20.10 | 05:41 |
| klausfiend | sorry, 20.04 LTS | 05:41 |
| klausfiend | specifically ubuntu-20.04.3-live-server-amd64.iso | 05:41 |
| TJ- | klausfiend: is it one of the point releases, e.g. 20.04.2 ? AHA | 05:41 |
| klausfiend | although the .2 live server ISO initrd wasn't any different in layout | 05:41 |
| TJ- | wow! releases.ubuntu.com lost its IPv6 addresses | 05:44 |
| xboxbml | TJ: WONDERFUL!! Thanks so much!! It works! | 05:47 |
| lotuspsychje | !cookie | xboxbml | 05:47 |
| ubottu | xboxbml: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! | 05:47 |
| lotuspsychje | !cookie | TJ- | 05:47 |
| ubottu | TJ-: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! | 05:47 |
| xboxbml | oops sorry | 05:48 |
| TJ- | xboxbml: which 'it' fixed it? | 05:48 |
| xboxbml | lotuspsychje: That was meant for you! | 05:48 |
| xboxbml | apt-cache search bjnp | 05:48 |
| xboxbml | sudo apt-get install cups-backend-bjnp | 05:48 |
| alkisg | !cookie | lotuspsychje | 05:49 |
| ubottu | lotuspsychje: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! | 05:49 |
| alkisg | :D | 05:49 |
| lotuspsychje | oh lol | 05:49 |
| lotuspsychje | !info bjnp | 05:50 |
| ubottu | Package bjnp does not exist in hirsute | 05:50 |
| lotuspsychje | !info cups-backend-bjnp | 05:51 |
| ubottu | cups-backend-bjnp (2.0.3-1, hirsute): printer backend for Canon BJNP protocol. In component universe, is optional. Built by cups-bjnp. Size 27 kB / 77 kB | 05:51 |
| KBar | You get a cookie and you get a cookie. Everyone gets a cookie! :') | 05:51 |
| xboxbml | lol | 05:51 |
| lotuspsychje | maybe they should add that package by default instead of optional | 05:51 |
| xboxbml | it's late.. having hard time reading all these lines crunched together.. thanks all! | 05:52 |
| lotuspsychje | enjoy xboxbml | 05:52 |
| klausfiend | TJ-: so, uh, it seems good ol' BOOTIF= might actually be all i need | 06:11 |
| klausfiend | dbungert: ^^ sometimes the old ways are best? | 06:12 |
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| klausfiend | i feel a bit sheepish lol | 06:24 |
| fedorafan | hello? | 07:19 |
| iogue | hello | 07:20 |
| fedorafan | ah cool :) | 07:32 |
| fedorafan | ;,\'§§§w | 07:33 |
| pycode | how can i upgrade from 20.04 to 21.04 ? | 07:34 |
| pycode | should i reinstall everything with a fresh installation ? | 07:34 |
| pycode | hmm no it is better to stay with 20.04 | 07:35 |
| pycode | long mantainance | 07:35 |
| iogue | pycode: yeah... 20.04 is lts | 07:38 |
| pycode | iogue, so basically every two years there is a new LTS version right? | 07:39 |
| iogue | pycode: yes but a lts release is supported with security updates and bug fixes for five years | 07:43 |
| pycode | ok so 20.04 still has a long life | 07:43 |
| iogue | pycode: but if you don't require full stability and likes to have the latest distro updates, you can install a non-lst release like 21.04 | 07:46 |
| iogue | pycode: and if you are have a adventurer spirit you can even try 20.10, but things can get a litle unstable if you don't mind | 07:48 |
| pycode | iogue, no no it is a webserver that need to run for long time, i need a stable version with security updates | 07:49 |
| pycode | i am not so brave :D | 07:49 |
| iogue | pycode: :D | 07:50 |
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| iogue | pycode: You can read about how it works here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS | 07:53 |
| onizu | hi | 07:55 |
| onizu | how do you install fff file explorer on ubuntu? | 07:55 |
| guiverc | iogue, you said 20.10 (typo?) but I think you meant 21.10/impish (note: both 20.10 (EOL) & 21.10 (beta) are off-topic here for support, so considering support options is useful) | 07:56 |
| iogue | guiverc: yeahp... typo | 07:58 |
| guiverc | onizu, there is no `fff` package on any supported release; providing details of what file-explorer you mean (a link) may help | 07:58 |
| onizu | https://github.com/dylanaraps/fff | 07:58 |
| guiverc | https://www.tecmint.com/fff-fast-file-manager-for-linux/ maybe helpful, but sorry I've no experience with it | 08:00 |
| guiverc | (I'd likely just follow instructions from link you gave, ie. https://github.com/dylanaraps/fff#distros) | 08:01 |
| onizu | yea, i was wondering if there was a repo that allowed installation via apt-get in ubuntu | 08:04 |
| viktor__ | does anyone know if there's a way to use serveral monitors with independant vitual desktops at the same time? | 08:04 |
| pycode | thank iogue | 08:05 |
| ducasse | onizu: search ppa.launchpad.net | 08:23 |
| onizu | ducasse: ok | 08:24 |
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| Franciman | Hi all, I read online that ubuntu has support for miracast for screening on external device via WiFi | 10:35 |
| Franciman | is it corresponding to the truth? | 10:36 |
| Franciman | if so, where can I read the implementatation? | 10:36 |
| ogra | Franciman, the ubuntu phone had miracast support ... buut thats moved to #ubports ... for the desktop there are tools like "mkchromecast" in the archive | 10:41 |
| Franciman | sad | 10:41 |
| ogra | (but that is chromecast, not miracast indeed) | 10:41 |
| Franciman | I would be a sucker for a miracast implementation for linux | 10:41 |
| ogra | there are various projects trying to get miracast into gnome though ... none of them ar packaged yet | 10:42 |
| ogra | https://github.com/albfan/miraclecast and https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-network-displays | 10:42 |
| Franciman | ogra: yea, I tried both of them | 10:52 |
| Franciman | miraclecast for now has just the connection setup | 10:52 |
| Franciman | then you are responsible for how to share things | 10:53 |
| Franciman | (and I don't know how to do it lol) | 10:53 |
| Franciman | the other one does not work | 10:53 |
| Franciman | I hope they get better! | 10:53 |
| AltFantasy | got the resume initramfs error, help? | 11:59 |
| AltFantasy | what in literal fuck | 12:10 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 12:11 |
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| croraf | https://pasteboard.co/hi63KbnCzN5g.png what should i do now | 14:29 |
| ioria | croraf, paste ' sudo apt update | nc termbin.com 9999' | 14:30 |
| croraf | https://termbin.com/vyf4 ioria | 14:31 |
| croraf | Below the given link there is also more errors: W: An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: https://repo.skype.com/deb stable InRelease: The following signatures were invalid: EXPKEYSIG 1F3045A5DF7587C3 Skype Linux Client Repository <se-um@microsoft.com> | 14:31 |
| croraf | W: Failed to fetch https://repo.skype.com/deb/dists/stable/InRelease The following signatures were invalid: EXPKEYSIG 1F3045A5DF7587C3 Skype Linux Client Repository <se-um@microsoft.com> | 14:31 |
| croraf | W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. | 14:32 |
| ioria | croraf, well, i don't use those repos... but i'd say you have a wrong/outdated signature | 14:34 |
| pikapika | Hi | 14:34 |
| ioria | croraf, meaning, delete that and re-download a new key | 14:35 |
| pikapika | If theres a particular package that I suspect might be shafted from the next ubuntu version, what is the best approach to collecting all its file and turning it into a deb or an /opt install etc? | 14:35 |
| croraf | ioria, seems like skype is the only thing that is doing the problem? | 14:40 |
| ioria | croraf, as far i can see now; sudo apt-key del 1F3045A5DF7587C3 | 14:41 |
| laurus | When I scan paper with my Brother DCP-L2550DW scanner using "Document Scanner" (simple-scan), the paper size is _slightly_ wrong. How can I fix this? | 14:41 |
| ioria | croraf, curl https://repo.skype.com/data/SKYPE-GPG-KEY | sudo apt-key add - | 14:42 |
| ioria | croraf, and sudo apt update | 14:42 |
| croraf | I've now closed skype and the warning went away | 14:42 |
| croraf | Skype client was giving me warning that I should close it and apply updates. Guess now it is ok. | 14:43 |
| croraf | Oh, "sudo apt update" still gave me error, even though the error in UI is missing. | 14:44 |
| croraf | But now after I did curl... apt-key add -, and sudo apt update it shows no error :) | 14:44 |
| croraf | thx ioria | 14:45 |
| ioria | ok, no prob | 14:45 |
| ioria | laurus, do you have a ~/.cache/simple-scan/state file ? | 14:51 |
| laurus | ioria: Let me check. | 14:51 |
| laurus | Yes. It doesn't mention paper size though. | 14:51 |
| ioria | laurus, move it from there (or delete) and restart simple-scan | 14:52 |
| laurus | Okay. | 14:53 |
| jsmooth | I just downloaded Matrix screensaver as a JAR file. How do I install it so it is loaded? | 14:55 |
| laurus | ioria: When I open a test scanned PDF in GIMP, it's 821 pixels by 1092, not 850 by 1100. The ratios are different: 0.7518315 vs 0.7727273. | 14:55 |
| jsmooth | I've installed JDK 17, but when testing java version it says 11 | 15:01 |
| pikapika | I think there's some command to switch the system java version isn't it | 15:02 |
| oerheks | does that matrix jar site give install instructions? | 15:02 |
| pikapika | like multiple jdks live alongside | 15:02 |
| oerheks | !java | 15:02 |
| ubottu | To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software Development Kit" (SDK). Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations. | 15:02 |
| oerheks | on that wiki it tells you how to select a java version | 15:03 |
| laurus | Maybe I should give up. | 15:03 |
| laurus | I can't seem to find how to set paper size in some kind of command-line interface | 15:04 |
| laurus | And Simple Scan seems to have no documentation of this | 15:04 |
| oerheks | laurus, simplescan gui gives papersize, standard set to automatic | 15:07 |
| oerheks | so, use the gui? | 15:07 |
| laurus | oerheks: I set it to Letter. It doesn't fix this, this is "slightly off" | 15:07 |
| laurus | As I mentioned, the resulting scans should be 8.5 x 11 but they're not, they're slightly a different ratio. | 15:07 |
| laurus | Or is it just that any scanner cannot fully scan to the margins of a page? | 15:08 |
| oerheks | 8.5 x 11 inch is A4.. | 15:09 |
| laurus | oerheks: No | 15:09 |
| laurus | A4 is 210 mm x 297 mm, which is about 8-1/4 in x 11-3/4 in. | 15:10 |
| laurus | Letter is 8.5 in x 11 in. | 15:10 |
| laurus | I think I'll just give up and try to not write close to the margins on pages | 15:17 |
| iomari891 | greetings, my ssh login to my ubuntu server periodically clears the screen and shows the ssh login message? What is causing this? | 15:28 |
| tomreyn | iomari891: what's the "ssh login message"? which client are you using? which ubuntu version is runnung on the server? are you connecting oiver internet? | 16:38 |
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| utente | ute | 17:24 |
| utente | film | 17:25 |
| Ronalds_Mazitis_ | can I get gnome to drag files from nautilus to apps on gnome dash apps | 18:16 |
| Ronalds_Mazitis_ | ? | 18:16 |
| Ronalds_Mazitis_ | or I can't because effects are disabled | 18:17 |
| derek_ | hello | 18:32 |
| Mekaneck | derek_: hi | 18:32 |
| Mekaneck | if you have a Ubuntu support question just ask, offtopic chit chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic | 18:33 |
| derek_ | i recently installed ubuntu 20.04. on the live usb "try ubuntu" my bluetooth worked. I installed 20.04 onto my sata sdd and now the bluetooth settings say "no bluetooth found. plug in a dongle to use bluetooth" can someone point me towards an article or help me troubleshoot please? | 18:33 |
| derek_ | Mekaneck, | 18:35 |
| oerheks | derek_, did you run full updates? sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade # and also typr 'driver' in dash and the additional driver tool comes up, any available? | 18:38 |
| derek_ | i recently installed ubuntu 20.04. on the live usb "try ubuntu" my bluetooth worked. I installed 20.04 onto my sata sdd and now the bluetooth settings say "no bluetooth found. plug in a dongle to use bluetooth" can someone point me towards an article or help me troubleshoot please? | 18:39 |
| croraf_ | Is 5.11 the kernel used for 20.04.3 (that is latest LTS Ubuntu version)? | 18:39 |
| jeremy31 | derek_: Might need to shutdown the machine and do a cold boot | 18:41 |
| oerheks | croraf_, no, 5.4 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux | 18:41 |
| oerheks | i think 5.11 comes with HWE | 18:41 |
| oerheks | !hwe | 18:41 |
| ubottu | The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack | 18:41 |
| croraf_ | oerheks, thanks. Should I install HWE? | 18:42 |
| oerheks | i would, for LTS. | 18:43 |
| derek_ | is "modprobe btusb" starting a service for a bluetooth usb adapter? what if i have an internal adapter? | 18:43 |
| derek_ | jeremy31, theres a bug report about this and it has me "rmmod btusb" and then modprobe btusb" should i restart after that? | 18:44 |
| croraf_ | oerheks, I guess in a month or so 20.04.4 will come out, right? That should have higher kernel version? | 18:44 |
| jeremy31 | derek_: If that didn't work, do a shutdown and cold boot | 18:44 |
| oerheks | croraf_, yes, AFAIK the one that impish is going to have, 5.13 ?? | 18:45 |
| oerheks | not sure on the same date... | 18:46 |
| croraf_ | oerheks, thanks. I see, I see. I think it will come couple months later than Impish. As seen here: https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle | 18:49 |
| oerheks | after serious testing, indeed, it is LTS. | 18:49 |
| derek_ | hello | 18:53 |
| deliver_ | Halleluiare, Sires | 18:53 |
| derek_ | jeremy31, i restarted and nothing | 18:53 |
| derek_ | i recently installed ubuntu 20.04. on the live usb "try ubuntu" my bluetooth worked. I installed 20.04 onto my sata sdd and now the bluetooth settings say "no bluetooth found. plug in a dongle to use bluetooth" can someone point me towards an article or help me troubleshoot please? | 18:54 |
| cbreak | derek_: have you considered finding out what kind of bluetooth hardware you have? | 18:55 |
| cbreak | there was someone that had the exact same problem here a few minutes ago | 18:55 |
| derek_ | cbreak, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0832MR4WB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 | 18:56 |
| derek_ | cbreak, that is the hardware i have | 18:56 |
| deliver_ | Did you have inxi and clipit? Tell me about yout bluetooth-connection | 18:56 |
| derek_ | i could pare my bluetooth headset and listen to youtube videos | 18:57 |
| derek_ | pair* | 18:57 |
| derek_ | now "settings" says i dont have a bluetooth adaptor installed. i have not changed any hardware | 18:57 |
| derek_ | https://pasteboard.co/2IuiAwYeNHgK.png | 18:59 |
| derek_ | thats a screenshot of my bluetooth settings | 18:59 |
| cbreak | and if you type `lsusb` on your terminal? | 18:59 |
| cbreak | does something Bluetooth related show up? | 19:00 |
| derek_ | https://pastebin.com/WfJi9Qst | 19:00 |
| oerheks | derek_, did you run full updates? sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade # and also typr 'driver' in dash and the additional driver tool comes up, any available? | 19:00 |
| derek_ | i "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" and i installed the nvidia 470 driver..... | 19:01 |
| oerheks | mind the 'full-upgrade' | 19:02 |
| oerheks | !fullupgrade | 19:02 |
| oerheks | !full-upgrade | 19:02 |
| oerheks | !distupgrade | 19:02 |
| ubottu | A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention. | 19:02 |
| derek_ | ill do that right now. there is only one proprietary driver in "drivers" and thats for my graphics card | 19:02 |
| oerheks | oke, it seems that the bt chip is not recognized, or it is a wifi/bt combo without the proper driver | 19:03 |
| derek_ | 0 packages install 0 upgraded on "full-upgrade | 19:03 |
| derek_ | it is wifi/bt combo | 19:03 |
| derek_ | but it worked in live install | 19:03 |
| derek_ | so should i not, by default at least have the driver? | 19:04 |
| oerheks | rfkill list | 19:05 |
| derek_ | derek@Dereks-Desktop:~$ rfkill list | 19:05 |
| derek_ | 0: phy0: Wireless LAN | 19:05 |
| derek_ | Soft blocked: no | 19:05 |
| derek_ | Hard blocked: no | 19:05 |
| oerheks | oke | 19:05 |
| oerheks | then i have to guess; maybe backport-iwlwifi-dkms fixes the driver | 19:06 |
| oerheks | !info backport-iwlwifi-dkms | 19:06 |
| ubottu | backport-iwlwifi-dkms (8613-0ubuntu2, hirsute): iwlwifi driver backport in DKMS format. In component universe, is optional. Built by backport-iwlwifi-dkms. Size 1,569 kB / 10,062 kB | 19:06 |
| cbreak | on my system, the `btusb` driver takes care of the AX200 | 19:06 |
| oerheks | install, and reboot builds the driver | 19:06 |
| cbreak | but your thing is maybe something incompatible | 19:06 |
| cbreak | and it's not even listed in lsusb, which is weird | 19:06 |
| cbreak | derek_: is it listed in lshw? | 19:06 |
| derek_ | how could it be incompatible if it worked in the live install? | 19:06 |
| oerheks | cbreak, yes, that is why i think of backport-iwlwifi-dkms | 19:07 |
| cbreak | oerheks: the amazon thing writes it's some AX200 thing | 19:07 |
| cbreak | but it also writes it's an AX3000... so... who knows... :( | 19:07 |
| oerheks | live iso has an older kernel, and iwdrivers i guess. they match | 19:08 |
| derek_ | wait... | 19:08 |
| cbreak | on my system, the btusb.ko comes from `linux-modules-extra-5.11.0-36-generic` | 19:08 |
| derek_ | there is one thing i did different | 19:09 |
| cbreak | (it's a 21.04) | 19:09 |
| derek_ | i was using cat5 and had the wifi turned off when i was using bluetooth | 19:09 |
| derek_ | would that make a difference? that would be stupid if i had to choose one or the other | 19:09 |
| derek_ | is there a tutorial on installing that driver? | 19:10 |
| cbreak | do you have linux-modules-extra-5.11.0-36-generic installed? | 19:10 |
| cbreak | it seems available for focal: https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/kernel/linux-modules-extra-5.11.0-36-generic | 19:11 |
| cbreak | or some other linux-modules-extra? | 19:11 |
| derek_ | ive installed very little beyon "istall 3rd party extras" ticked on installation | 19:11 |
| derek_ | should i install that module? | 19:12 |
| cbreak | maybe. I don't know if it'd help you. | 19:12 |
| derek_ | "linux-modules-extra-5.11.0-36-generic is already the newest version (5.11.0-36.40~20.04.1). | 19:12 |
| derek_ | " | 19:12 |
| cbreak | so you should have thekernel module that handles the bluetooth ax200 I have | 19:12 |
| derek_ | yeah... | 19:13 |
| cbreak | lshw | grep AX200 # does this list anything? | 19:14 |
| cbreak | or with AX300? | 19:15 |
| cbreak | if it shows something, then maybe the full output of lshw in a pastebin can give someone enough hints to help you. | 19:16 |
| derek_ | nothing for either | 19:16 |
| derek_ | shouldnt the ax200 show up in the proprietary drivers list? | 19:17 |
| cbreak | anything "UNCLAIMED" in lshw? | 19:17 |
| cbreak | my ax200 uses btusb, it's not a proprietary driver | 19:17 |
| oerheks | or maybe a FN + bt key, on your keyboard | 19:18 |
| derek_ | https://pastebin.com/8bUzSAC0 | 19:18 |
| derek_ | its a desktop computer. | 19:19 |
| derek_ | no bluetooth "switch" on keyboard | 19:19 |
| deliver_ | Take freespire and your https://itectec.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-intel-ax200-wifi-card-not-found-on-ubuntu-20-04/ grafkcard is working | 19:20 |
| cbreak | looks like the AX200 thing is recognized as WLAN | 19:20 |
| derek_ | yeah | 19:21 |
| derek_ | im speaking with you via wifi now | 19:21 |
| derek_ | using this card. | 19:21 |
| derek_ | but 0 bluetooth functionality | 19:21 |
| derek_ | is ax3000 the bluetooth ? | 19:23 |
| cbreak | that's what the crappy amazon listing might indicate | 19:23 |
| deliver_ | sudo apt install backport-iwlwifi-dkms | 19:24 |
| derek_ | i found this | 19:25 |
| derek_ | https://askubuntu.com/questions/1272481/intel-ax200-wifi-works-but-bluetooth-doesnt | 19:25 |
| derek_ | and it has these | 19:25 |
| derek_ | https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=kZUy90XZijUtNfb5PUFgeVyssnKP2HrJvbhy | 19:25 |
| deliver_ | Pls be sure to get backports in your source.list | 19:25 |
| derek_ | but how do i install them? | 19:25 |
| derek_ | deliver : its been a bit is that still /etc/fstab/srouces.list ? | 19:25 |
| derek_ | sources.list* | 19:26 |
| oerheks | deliver_, no, backports are not needed for this. | 19:26 |
| oerheks | just that package | 19:26 |
| derek_ | Error! The /var/lib/dkms/backport-iwlwifi/8324/5.11.0-36-generic/x86_64/dkms.conf for module backport-iwlwifi includes a BUILD_EXCLUSIVE directive which | 19:27 |
| derek_ | does not match this kernel/arch. This indicates that it should not be built. | 19:27 |
| derek_ | Skipped. | 19:27 |
| derek_ | oerheks, how do i install the drivers in the link i provided? | 19:27 |
| oerheks | not sure, i do not trust pcloud | 19:28 |
| deliver_ | https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ sry for this: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-backports main | 19:28 |
| oerheks | weird, do you have an ancient CPU? | 19:28 |
| derek_ | i have an I5 9600 3.7ghx 6 core 64bit | 19:29 |
| athena3615 | #join ubuntu-fr | 19:29 |
| derek_ | oerheks, manufacture date is 2019 i bought it in february of 2020 | 19:30 |
| jeremy31 | The problem is that the bluetooth isn't found at all, not even in lsusb | 19:32 |
| derek_ | jeremy31, yeah... thats the problem. yet the wifi part of the card is working better than it ever has. i never got 28 mbps on windows ten | 19:33 |
| derek_ | jeremy31, how do i rectify the problem? | 19:33 |
| jeremy31 | derek_: I am not sure, may have to reset BIOS to defaults | 19:34 |
| derek_ | jeremy31, why would bios have anything to do with this problem? | 19:35 |
| deliver_ | emmabuntu in nigeria: what do you think about it: https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=emmabuntus | 19:36 |
| jeremy31 | derek_: I am not sure but it might be enough to reveal that bluetooth device | 19:36 |
| derek_ | jeremy31, this bluetooth device isan add on card. bios is only pertaining to the motherboard. | 19:36 |
| jeremy31 | derek_: Part of the Intell wifi card? | 19:37 |
| derek_ | jeremy31, its not an intel wifi card | 19:39 |
| jeremy31 | derek_: Your paste shows a wifi card using the iwlwifi module, it is Intel | 19:41 |
| oerheks | ax200 is indeed intel | 19:43 |
| derek_ | jeremy31, ok.... it has the intel chipset...... it is not integral to the motherboard and therefor i dont understand how resetting my bios would help anything | 19:43 |
| jeremy31 | derek_: Sometimes devices don't work on an install that worked during the install, sometimes the BIOS reset can fix. Unless you have too many devices on USB and it caused some power issue | 19:44 |
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| deliver_ | You didn`t https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=emmabuntus. | 19:45 |
| oerheks | derek do the same as in live mode; cable and wifi off.. | 19:46 |
| oerheks | distrowatch is useless, btw | 19:46 |
| deliver_ | I hhave fresoire | 19:47 |
| deliver_ | freespre, sry for that | 19:47 |
| oerheks | not in this support channel, thanks. | 19:47 |
| deliver_ | I have bluetooth | 19:47 |
| jeremy31 | deliver_: try ircs://irc.libera.chat/#ubuntu-offtopic | 19:48 |
| deliver_ | thx a lot sir, oerheks and jeremy31 | 19:49 |
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| makumba | hellllo | 19:50 |
| makumba | how are you guys | 19:50 |
| makumba | ok | 19:50 |
| derek_ | im back | 19:52 |
| derek_ | what is the terminal command to open "Files" | 19:52 |
| Mekaneck | derek_: for simple questions please try to search first on the web before asking | 19:55 |
| derek_ | i need to open the folder "firmware" with super user priveleges | 19:55 |
| derek_ | Mekaneck, i did..... there are several file managers and i dont know which one i have because its just called "Files" on my windows manager | 19:56 |
| deliver | take caja or xfe | 19:57 |
| jeremy31 | derek_: /lib/firmware/intel/? | 19:57 |
| derek_ | theres a TON of iwl drivers in the firmware folder.... | 19:57 |
| derek_ | i think that the "live" version of 20.04 has the older driver which worked. | 19:58 |
| deliver | youu can altought thunar | 19:58 |
| jeremy31 | derek_: All for wifi, the bluetooth stuff is in /lib/firmware/intel | 19:58 |
| derek_ | i think i have the older driver in my downloads directory | 19:58 |
| jeremy31 | which driver? | 19:58 |
| derek_ | ... | 19:59 |
| deliver | inxi | 19:59 |
| oerheks | that backport-iwlwifi-dkms refused to build, interesting. | 19:59 |
| tomreyn | derek_: nautilus admin:///lib/firmware/ - but make sure you know what you're doing is safe. | 19:59 |
| jeremy31 | derek_: you cannot switch drivers between kernels | 19:59 |
| derek_ | https://askubuntu.com/questions/1272481/intel-ax200-wifi-works-but-bluetooth-doesnt | 19:59 |
| derek_ | tomreyn, i have no idea if its safe, but i also dont feel like i have an alternative | 20:00 |
| tomreyn | derek_: i haven't followed the previous chat, so can't comment. i assume others have. | 20:00 |
| jeremy31 | derek_: None of those answers were flagged as a solution or even got 1 upvote, I would ignore them | 20:01 |
| jeremy31 | derek_: post URL from terminal for> dmesg | egrep -i 'blue|firm' | nc termbin.com 9999 | 20:02 |
| derek_ | tomreyn, yes some have worked with me, i am super grateful, but a solution was not found. the problem is that my wifi/bluetooth combo card worked great on the "live usb" but after install i only have wifi and no bluetooth | 20:02 |
| derek_ | jeremy31, why? | 20:03 |
| jeremy31 | derek_: It will reveal any problems with firmware loading for bluetooth or wifi | 20:04 |
| derek_ | it revealed nothing | 20:04 |
| derek_ | there is no issue with wifi | 20:04 |
| deliver | https://askubuntu.com/questions/1272481/intel-ax200-wifi-works-but-bluetooth-doesnt tja | 20:04 |
| derek_ | deliver, theres no solution there | 20:06 |
| deliver | Why is it working, but for you not | 20:06 |
| tomreyn | derek_: if anyone can help with wireless, it's jeremy, you'r ein good hands. | 20:06 |
| jeremy31 | derek_: URL for> dmesg | grep 8087 | nc termbin.com | 20:07 |
| derek_ | deliver, further down that post it says even bigger problems arose from installing those drivers. and i dont even know how to install those drivers... | 20:07 |
| derek_ | jeremy31, i did that. | 20:07 |
| jeremy31 | backport-iwlwifi-dkms is for wifi only, btusb and btintel are for the bluetooth | 20:08 |
| derek_ | and it returned a url... because my wifi is working..... but we knew that because im talking to you... via wifi | 20:08 |
| jeremy31 | derek_: post the URL for the last command | 20:08 |
| derek_ | https://termbin.com/stjx | 20:09 |
| deliver | I don*t know about your knowledge, I go with same of some historical netscape-developers | 20:10 |
| jeremy31 | derek_: that wasn't from dmesg | 20:10 |
| derek_ | ill give you a screen shot | 20:11 |
| derek_ | https://pasteboard.co/fDNgoecWRp7x.png | 20:11 |
| oerheks | lols meanwhile bitcoin mining.. | 20:13 |
| derek_ | ? | 20:14 |
| jeremy31 | Messing with wifi and/or bluetooth drivers is not going to help when it is not being discovered for whatever reason | 20:14 |
| derek_ | is there a way to force it to "look again" ? | 20:14 |
| jeremy31 | derek_: I think there is a way to force a rescan on USB but it isn't likely to help as USB can be hotplugged | 20:15 |
| derek_ | this is in a pcie 1x slot | 20:16 |
| derek_ | https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0832MR4WB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 | 20:16 |
| jeremy31 | derek_: for a long time bluetooth devices piggybacked on wifi cards use the USB bus, the only exception I know of on PCI(e) is Mediatek | 20:16 |
| derek_ | oh shit.... it does actually go to a usb header on the motherboard | 20:17 |
| derek_ | you are absolutely right. | 20:17 |
| jeremy31 | I only use laptops, the USB part is inside the chipset | 20:17 |
| derek_ | so buntu would see it as a usb plugged device | 20:18 |
| oerheks | lsusb would show | 20:19 |
| derek_ | problem found! | 20:19 |
| jeremy31 | On laptops, the cards just slip into a slot and antennas get connected, nothing else and bluetooth shows in lsusb | 20:19 |
| derek_ | brb to show you | 20:20 |
| deliver | The third world, greets you | 20:20 |
| derek_ | hi | 20:23 |
| derek_ | thank you guys so much | 20:23 |
| jeremy31 | One of the pictures on the amazon page shows Note: A power cable needs to be connected to the motherboard 9 pin interface, missed that | 20:23 |
| derek_ | this time it was my own idiocy | 20:23 |
| diniwed | looking at Win10 partition folder Windows/Fonts and all the font files have a padlock next to them in Nautilus... trying to copy them over to ubuntu gives me an 'Input/output error' | 20:23 |
| jeremy31 | derek_: check lsusb now, you should have another device with ID 8087:???? I have no idea what might be in place of ???? | 20:24 |
| derek_ | jeremy31, sooo | 20:24 |
| derek_ | when you brought up that it plugs into the usb bus i remembered....... while installing buntu i took the side panel off to clean a filty with a small paint brush..... | 20:25 |
| jeremy31 | derek_: I have no idea why a desktop needs that cable when a laptop doesn't. | 20:25 |
| jeremy31 | Unless it has something to do with the number of pins on the motherboard slot | 20:26 |
| derek_ | https://pasteboard.co/kseQF94PJNJX.jpg | 20:26 |
| derek_ | i must've gave that jumper a little tug with the paint brush! | 20:27 |
| derek_ | its back in an working fantastic | 20:27 |
| jeremy31 | Good, a fairly simple solution for once | 20:28 |
| derek_ | jeremy31, also for your viewing pleasure https://pasteboard.co/X4A1q2FceE9L.jpg | 20:28 |
| derek_ | thank you guys so much! | 20:28 |
| deliver | yeah | 20:29 |
| oerheks | :-D | 20:29 |
| derek_ | "you're connected. Battery FULL" | 20:29 |
| oerheks | good spot | 20:29 |
| morganu | and hello again. 20.04 update appears in background and completely steals the cursor. I rebooted before I thought of it. So immediately I went to update mgr and it said, Nope, you are up to date. Then Crome started and the Update Manager interrupted me. What is wrong with this OS? | 20:33 |
| cbreak | nice :) hardware problem... :( | 20:35 |
| morganu | cbreak, talking to me or another? | 20:36 |
| cbreak | someone else. | 20:36 |
| morganu | ty | 20:36 |
| jeremy31 | morganu: open a terminal and do> sudo apt update | 20:37 |
| morganu | did update and upgrade and ... (waiting for it to finish), done can I automate this? [I had already answered YES to doit now?.] | 20:40 |
| dung3onm4st3r13 | Ikelis, what is your quest? | 20:44 |
| Afdal | Anyone have any idea what might be wrong with this apt-get update ouput here? https://termbin.com/lmgk | 20:44 |
| Afdal | It's not merely corrupted sources lists; I've already tried deleting everything in /var/lib/apt/lists/ and that doesn't help | 20:46 |
| cbreak | xenial? Isn't that, like, prehistoric? | 20:46 |
| Afdal | Yeah, yeah... I know it's EOL. I just need this apt problem resolved and then I'm doing a release upgrade. | 20:46 |
| leftyfb | Afdal: remove all of the repo's mentioned at the bottom | 20:46 |
| cbreak | I wouldn't be surprised if the servers for that thing have been shut down, or at least the no longer needed stuff deleted | 20:47 |
| Afdal | This just started occurring out of the blue yesterday and I can't figure out what the problem is. | 20:47 |
| leftyfb | adduc: getdeb, riot, packagecloud, winehq, etc | 20:47 |
| tomreyn | getdeb has been non-existing for some 3 or 4 years, i think | 20:47 |
| Afdal | D:> | 20:47 |
| leftyfb | Afdal: xenial is no longer supported, which means most repo's will be removing support for it | 20:47 |
| morganu | jeremy31, I have constantly had problems since I installed 20.04 and had to reboot. | 20:48 |
| Afdal | Is there an easy way to save repo lists so I can re-add them again once I've released upgraded? | 20:48 |
| morganu | and thanks for this fix. | 20:48 |
| leftyfb | Afdal: you are better off only adding repo's you know you need after the fact | 20:48 |
| tomreyn | rename the .list file to .save | 20:49 |
| leftyfb | Afdal: don't just "port" over everything | 20:49 |
| Afdal | -_- | 20:49 |
| tomreyn | but yes, for release upgrades you really should remove all ppas and packages / (updated) package versions installed from them, gettign back to a pure ubuntu system | 20:50 |
| cbreak | does it even make sense to upgrade a xenial machine? | 20:50 |
| cbreak | maybe reinstalling 20.04 fresh is better | 20:50 |
| cbreak | maybe not. :/ | 20:50 |
| tomreyn | probably | 20:50 |
| Afdal | It does for me, because *buntu installers tend to lock up when attempting to install on this hardware | 20:50 |
| Afdal | for some other reasons I won't go into | 20:51 |
| tomreyn | there are three different installers which should be usablenone of them works? | 20:51 |
| Afdal | I don't remember, it's been a while since I last tried | 20:52 |
| leftyfb | about 5 years | 20:52 |
| tomreyn | probably :) | 20:52 |
| leftyfb | Afdal: from just the looks of your repo's, I would highly recommend a fresh install of 20.04 or wait till April and go with 22.04 | 20:53 |
| Afdal | Look that's not an option for me :( | 20:53 |
| cbreak | wonder if the distupgrade stuff for 18.04 even still exists | 20:54 |
| Afdal | lol, really? | 20:54 |
| cbreak | no idea. I'm just wondering. | 20:54 |
| leftyfb | Afdal: it's going to take you a lot longer to upgrade the mess you have there now, if it'll even work when you're done, then it will to just install from scratch | 20:55 |
| Afdal | Yes but at least that's doable | 20:56 |
| Afdal | Whereas installing from scratch is not | 20:56 |
| leftyfb | Afdal: why not? | 20:56 |
| EriC^^ | Afdal: why does it lock up? | 20:56 |
| Afdal | omg -_- | 20:56 |
| cbreak | I've installed ubuntu without it locking up | 20:56 |
| Afdal | I have a cryptic motherboard problem relating to monitor output that basically causes my system to freeze in various scenarios | 20:57 |
| cbreak | that sounds annoying. | 20:57 |
| Afdal | They usually have to do with unplugging or sending an off signal to an active monitor | 20:57 |
| Afdal | but most Linux installers also make it happen even after I take steps to disable power control | 20:57 |
| cbreak | wonder if that problem also manifests itself with a dedicated GPU | 20:58 |
| Afdal | I do have a dedicated GPU | 20:58 |
| cbreak | or with an ubuntu server installer without X | 20:58 |
| Afdal | But it's not the GPU | 20:58 |
| Afdal | This was a problem with a previous GPU as well | 20:58 |
| Afdal | I've pretty much replaced every part in this system now and the motherboard is the last possible culprit | 20:58 |
| cbreak | the server installers can install ubuntu server, which can later be upgraded to something similar to ubuntu desktop | 20:58 |
| cbreak | maybe it's your monitors? :/ | 20:59 |
| tomreyn | debootstrap would also work, there it's certainly to you to handle signalling. | 20:59 |
| Afdal | Can a monitor even send a signal back in the other direction? | 21:00 |
| leftyfb | HDMI-CEC | 21:00 |
| cbreak | my systems recognize when screens are turned on. | 21:00 |
| Afdal | Well I've got DVI/VGA and this happens on both formats | 21:01 |
| Afdal | I don't think VGA can send anything in the other direction... | 21:01 |
| Afdal | Anyway, I just wanna get this apt problem resolved | 21:02 |
| tomreyn | disable the apt sources which are reported in lines starting "E:" | 21:04 |
| Afdal | Woo, that worked \:O/ | 21:06 |
| Afdal | Thanks a bunch | 21:06 |
| tomreyn | your main problem remains unsolved, though. | 21:06 |
| Afdal | Seems weird to me that dead repositories can cause the entire apt system to breakdown | 21:06 |
| Afdal | instead of simply being ignored | 21:06 |
| tomreyn | you | 21:07 |
| tomreyn | are running an EOL system, that's the definition of broken | 21:07 |
| Afdal | that old getdeb.net repo was probably the problem | 21:07 |
| Afdal | lol, I'll accept that :3 | 21:07 |
| Afdal | Gonna do a release upgrade later | 21:07 |
| ThinkT510 | you should have done that ages ago when it was supported | 21:08 |
| Afdal | Yes well, as I mentioned about my hardware problem | 21:08 |
| Afdal | I was afraid of doing a release upgrade without the ability to install other OSs | 21:08 |
| Afdal | in case something went wrong | 21:08 |
| Afdal | I recently finally got a different distro installer to work today, which changes everything | 21:09 |
| Afdal | Hmm should I click the big "Upgrade..." button on the Software Updater GUI or is it smarter to do this in terminal | 21:10 |
| ThinkT510 | the first smart step is a backup | 21:10 |
| Afdal | Most of my files are on a separate drive/partition | 21:11 |
| Afdal | and I rsync them regularly | 21:11 |
| Afdal | I should probably save my home folder config files though | 21:11 |
| Afdal | Actually the most annoying part about release upgrade/distro changes for me are the changes I sometimes need to make outside /home/ | 21:12 |
| Afdal | that I don't write down on a list and can't remember | 21:12 |
| leftyfb | Afdal: look into ansible | 21:12 |
| Afdal | such as editing sshd_config and what not | 21:12 |
| ThinkT510 | maybe make a list this time | 21:12 |
| Afdal | :) | 21:12 |
| Afdal | What about ansible? | 21:13 |
| Afdal | Is there something handy it can do with configuration management? | 21:13 |
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| Afdal | Maybe I should finally separate my /home/ folder into its own partition. | 21:22 |
| Afdal | Always been a little unsure if there are cons to this when using an SSD though. I think making lots of separate partitions makes it more difficult for an SSD to handle garbage management and thus reduce its lifespan | 21:23 |
| cbreak | Afdal: not really | 21:24 |
| cbreak | if you want to not reduce the lifespan of an ssd, don't fill it too much, and use TRIM | 21:25 |
| cbreak | I have a separate dataset for each user | 21:25 |
| cbreak | and separate datasets for various parts of the system | 21:25 |
| Afdal | Do you use logical volumes on your SSD? | 21:25 |
| cbreak | no, I use zfs | 21:25 |
| cbreak | there are GPT partitions too of course, two of which are for zfs pools | 21:26 |
| Afdal | does that have its own high level partition system analogous to olgical volumes | 21:26 |
| cbreak | if you don't use zfs, you'd use normal partitions | 21:26 |
| cbreak | zfs allows "thin provisioned" partitions, called datasets | 21:26 |
| cbreak | they're not really partitions, but are in some ways similar | 21:26 |
| gneeriiloeepdeer | how com I have to run sudo for htop to work? If I run it as regular user all I get are zeros for CPU and MEM usage | 21:40 |
| gneeriiloeepdeer | come* | 21:40 |
| Afdal | I not only don't need to run sudo to run htop, but I can kill processes with it without sudo. Unlike other commands like pkill. I've always found that a bit odd... | 21:43 |
| oerheks | gneeriiloeepdeer, not here, works fine without the use of sudo | 21:43 |
| oerheks | must be mint or something.. | 21:43 |
| gneeriiloeepdeer | no, I dont have mint | 21:43 |
| oerheks | ubuntu in a VM ? | 21:44 |
| gneeriiloeepdeer | reinstall? | 21:44 |
| gneeriiloeepdeer | no, no VM either | 21:44 |
| gneeriiloeepdeer | plain ubuntu | 21:44 |
| gneeriiloeepdeer | htop is already the newest version (3.0.5-6). | 21:44 |
| oerheks | all i find is the mac os issue https://superuser.com/questions/338749/htop-isnt-returning-cpu-or-memory-usage | 21:45 |
| gneeriiloeepdeer | no mac | 21:45 |
| oerheks | what CPU do you have? | 21:46 |
| oerheks | i have no clue why it should not access cpu/mem usage | 21:46 |
| gneeriiloeepdeer | Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7500U | 21:48 |
| oerheks | no funny ryzen .. oke, maybe you can post this on askubuntu too, with screenshots to show the diff? | 21:49 |
| gneeriiloeepdeer | oerheks, are you talking to me? | 21:49 |
| oerheks | gneeriiloeepdeer, yes | 21:50 |
| gneeriiloeepdeer | I just learned that ryzen is a brand... | 21:51 |
| oerheks | amd ryzen, a pretty neat processor gaining market. | 21:52 |
| gneeriiloeepdeer | crap, now I have to log a bug... | 21:53 |
| Sven_vB | hi :) I have some devices that interfere with my bluetooth audio when they're active, and I'd like to detect them to log dates and timespans when the interferences are present. I could imagine setting up a bluetooth audio sender/receiver pair, transmit DTMF and detect the anomalies. might there be an easier way? could my USB BT antenna maybe monitor interference passively? | 22:36 |
| Sven_vB | (and if it could, what software would I use on focal to ask it?) | 22:37 |
| oerheks | some devices? | 22:42 |
| oerheks | microwaves? cellphones? | 22:42 |
| Sven_vB | not sure, it's behind my neighbor's wall | 22:44 |
| Sven_vB | or at least I suspect it's coming from there. having a time pattern might help identify i | 22:45 |
| Sven_vB | *it | 22:45 |
| oerheks | microwave/waterheater probably | 22:46 |
| Sven_vB | yeah could be | 22:46 |
| Sven_vB | depending on how raw the antennae report it, maybe I could even triangulate the signal | 22:47 |
| oerheks | journalctl -r -u bluetooth | 22:47 |
| oerheks | journalctl -r -u bluetooth > /someplace.txt for logging | 22:48 |
| Sven_vB | "sudo journalctl --reverse --unit bluetooth.service" only has entries for my BT headset connecting and disconnecting. latest entry is from 3 hours ago when I put it on. | 22:50 |
| Sven_vB | the latest anomaly was less than an hour ago | 22:50 |
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