[15:38] <zxmpi> 4 o'clock on a sunday. the long dark tea time of the soul...
[15:38] <daftykins> time to break out an emergency treat to survive it? :)
[15:39] <zxmpi> and i'm all out of terrys chocolate oranges...
[15:39] <zxmpi> not even an emergency backup bag of generic chocolate peanuts
[15:39] <daftykins> *gasp* to use one of your lines from the past, "why'd you let things get so bad?!"
[15:40] <zxmpi> you of course what this means... it's time to go... <_<  ...  >_>   ...  shopping...
[15:40] <daftykins> say it ain't so! D:
[15:40] <zxmpi> and my favourite cattle prod barely holds half a charge
[15:42] <zxmpi> i've made a list, i've checked it twice, i'm going to aldi, i won't be nice. zxmpi is going to town! :-)
[15:44] <daftykins> are the infected cases and public wanderings of the anti-vaxxer crowd still an issue over there?
[15:46] <zxmpi> at 183.8 on 7 day per 100k uk mainland is at 341.5
[15:46] <zxmpi> https://oscovida.github.io/countries-incidence-rate.html
[15:47] <zxmpi> has been slowly falling for a few weeks but we've also been opening up at same time so we're kinda treading water
[15:54] <zxmpi> anti vaxxers are on back foot since they 'rescued' someone from been intubated and brought him home. from where he got worse and went back to hospital and died
[15:55] <daftykins> :O
[16:00] <m0nkey_> dont get me started on the anti-vaxxers.. 
[16:04] <m0nkey_> they've implemented vaccine passports here, along with banning protests in front of hospitals, vaccine centers and schools.. because the anti-vaxxers feel the need to intimidate the sick, elderly and children.
[16:04] <zxmpi> they. are. everywhere.
[16:05] <m0nkey_> i dont get it
[16:05] <zxmpi> stupid people who think they are smart
[16:05] <m0nkey_> they claim "but it's my freedom" .. sure, you can have your freedom, just get the damn shot.
[16:06] <zxmpi> smart people in one area of speciality who thinks that makes them smart at everything
[16:06] <zxmpi> and a constant feedback loop of social media which tells them they are freedom warriors not plonkers
[16:08] <m0nkey_> our numbers here in quebec how that you are 34.9 times more likely to end up in hospital if you're unvaccinated and get infected.
[16:08] <m0nkey_> even with one dose, you're down to 4.6 times
[16:09] <zxmpi> 90+% of our cases are unvaccinated who now make up <25% of population
[16:09] <zxmpi> we're now looking at rolling out to over 5 year olds next
[16:10] <m0nkey_> same here.. majority of our cases are amongst them
[16:10] <m0nkey_> again, same .. they're looking to give it to 5-11yr olds, which is great.. i want my kids to be able to have it.
[16:10] <m0nkey_> for my eldest, i have said to her that i won't force her to do it, but i would encourage her to get it.
[16:12]  * zxmpi remembers vaccine day when i started school. i was 4-5 when we were all lined up for polio and measles vaccines
[16:12] <m0nkey_> yeah, i remember lining up for them too
[16:13] <zxmpi> i think florida has said it's gonna look at making those not mandatory for schools too 0o
[16:13] <m0nkey_> are they introducing vaccine mandates there yet? .. a lot of businesses and government are starting to here.. get the vaccination or get fired basically.
[16:15] <zxmpi> from tomorrow if a school kid gets nits or scarlet fever a teacher will have to tell the rest of the parents but say nothing if one of them has covid 0o
[16:15] <zxmpi> they have been telling rest of parents till now
[16:16] <zxmpi> last monday was back to office day. and there was no rejoicing
[16:16] <zxmpi> there are vaccine passes but no one checks them properly
[16:16] <m0nkey_> wait. what?
[16:16] <zxmpi> exactly
[16:17] <m0nkey_> you got any source on that, like a news article? 
[16:17] <zxmpi> the teachers thing? gimme a sec
[16:22] <zxmpi> https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40706801.html
[16:23] <zxmpi> a lot of teachers with or caring for family with health conditions feel abandoned from intervies i've heard on radio
[16:24] <daftykins> that's maddening D:
[16:25] <zxmpi> yeah, this is the same government that opened everything up for christmas last year and made is #1 on worlds covid list in january. now we have decent vaccine rates they're trying again
[16:27] <zxmpi> also winding down pandemic payments in next few weeks to get everyone back to work
[16:32] <penguin42> very difficult to know which way it's going in the UK; it had been going down nicely, for no apparent reason, blipped up a bit
[16:32] <zxmpi> still high on the 7 day incident rate. but fewer deaths from vaccines. still burning out medical staff rates
[16:33] <zxmpi> and it's not like you can import a tonne more from eu anymore
[16:33] <penguin42> people in hospital going down at the moment
[16:46] <m0nkey_> i just think governments and business should be taking away antivaxxer rights, because f**k 'em.  they're doing it here and it's funny to watch. bitching about a two-tier system, well buddy, you can join the other tier by getting the shot.
[16:48] <zxmpi> nah, a small fine for forwarding misinformation online. 50shekels a pop. soon curb the lies online when people stop forwarding them
[16:49] <daftykins> Steve Coogan to play Jimmy Savile D:
[16:49] <zxmpi> the online version of littering fines