[15:38] 4 o'clock on a sunday. the long dark tea time of the soul... [15:38] time to break out an emergency treat to survive it? :) [15:39] and i'm all out of terrys chocolate oranges... [15:39] not even an emergency backup bag of generic chocolate peanuts [15:39] *gasp* to use one of your lines from the past, "why'd you let things get so bad?!" [15:40] you of course what this means... it's time to go... <_< ... >_> ... shopping... [15:40] say it ain't so! D: [15:40] and my favourite cattle prod barely holds half a charge [15:42] i've made a list, i've checked it twice, i'm going to aldi, i won't be nice. zxmpi is going to town! :-) [15:44] are the infected cases and public wanderings of the anti-vaxxer crowd still an issue over there? [15:46] at 183.8 on 7 day per 100k uk mainland is at 341.5 [15:46] https://oscovida.github.io/countries-incidence-rate.html [15:47] has been slowly falling for a few weeks but we've also been opening up at same time so we're kinda treading water [15:54] anti vaxxers are on back foot since they 'rescued' someone from been intubated and brought him home. from where he got worse and went back to hospital and died [15:55] :O [16:00] dont get me started on the anti-vaxxers.. [16:04] they've implemented vaccine passports here, along with banning protests in front of hospitals, vaccine centers and schools.. because the anti-vaxxers feel the need to intimidate the sick, elderly and children. [16:04] they. are. everywhere. [16:05] i dont get it [16:05] stupid people who think they are smart [16:05] they claim "but it's my freedom" .. sure, you can have your freedom, just get the damn shot. [16:06] smart people in one area of speciality who thinks that makes them smart at everything [16:06] and a constant feedback loop of social media which tells them they are freedom warriors not plonkers [16:08] our numbers here in quebec how that you are 34.9 times more likely to end up in hospital if you're unvaccinated and get infected. [16:08] even with one dose, you're down to 4.6 times [16:09] 90+% of our cases are unvaccinated who now make up <25% of population [16:09] we're now looking at rolling out to over 5 year olds next [16:10] same here.. majority of our cases are amongst them [16:10] again, same .. they're looking to give it to 5-11yr olds, which is great.. i want my kids to be able to have it. [16:10] for my eldest, i have said to her that i won't force her to do it, but i would encourage her to get it. [16:12] * zxmpi remembers vaccine day when i started school. i was 4-5 when we were all lined up for polio and measles vaccines [16:12] yeah, i remember lining up for them too [16:13] i think florida has said it's gonna look at making those not mandatory for schools too 0o [16:13] are they introducing vaccine mandates there yet? .. a lot of businesses and government are starting to here.. get the vaccination or get fired basically. [16:15] from tomorrow if a school kid gets nits or scarlet fever a teacher will have to tell the rest of the parents but say nothing if one of them has covid 0o [16:15] they have been telling rest of parents till now [16:16] last monday was back to office day. and there was no rejoicing [16:16] there are vaccine passes but no one checks them properly [16:16] wait. what? [16:16] exactly [16:17] you got any source on that, like a news article? [16:17] the teachers thing? gimme a sec [16:22] https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40706801.html [16:23] a lot of teachers with or caring for family with health conditions feel abandoned from intervies i've heard on radio [16:24] that's maddening D: [16:25] yeah, this is the same government that opened everything up for christmas last year and made is #1 on worlds covid list in january. now we have decent vaccine rates they're trying again [16:27] also winding down pandemic payments in next few weeks to get everyone back to work [16:32] very difficult to know which way it's going in the UK; it had been going down nicely, for no apparent reason, blipped up a bit [16:32] still high on the 7 day incident rate. but fewer deaths from vaccines. still burning out medical staff rates [16:33] and it's not like you can import a tonne more from eu anymore [16:33] people in hospital going down at the moment [16:46] i just think governments and business should be taking away antivaxxer rights, because f**k 'em. they're doing it here and it's funny to watch. bitching about a two-tier system, well buddy, you can join the other tier by getting the shot. [16:48] nah, a small fine for forwarding misinformation online. 50shekels a pop. soon curb the lies online when people stop forwarding them [16:49] Steve Coogan to play Jimmy Savile D: [16:49] the online version of littering fines