[00:14] how to fix broken packages [00:16] alvaro: broken how? which ubuntu version? can you post error messages to a pastebin? [00:19] Err:1 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security InRelease [00:19] Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (91.189.91.38). - connect (111: Connection refused) Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (91.189.91.39). - connect (111: Connection refused) [00:19] Err:2 http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu bionic InRelease [00:19] Could not connect to archive.canonical.com:80 (91.189.92.191). - connect (111: Connection refused) Could not connect to archive.canonical.com:80 (91.189.91.15). - connect (111: Connection refused) Could not connect to archive.canonical.com:80 (91.189.92.150). - connect (111: Connection refused) [00:19] Err:3 http://ppa.launchpad.net/lutris-team/lutris/ubuntu bionic InRelease [00:19] Could not connect to ppa.launchpad.net:80 (91.189.95.85). - connect (111: Connection refused) [00:20] !paste | alvaro [00:20] alvaro: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [00:21] W: Target Packages (contrib/binary-amd64/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:52 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/virtualbox.list:1 [00:21] W: Target Packages (contrib/binary-all/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:52 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/virtualbox.list:1 [00:21] W: Target Translations (contrib/i18n/Translation-en_US) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:52 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/virtualbox.list:1 [00:21] W: Target Translations (contrib/i18n/Translation-en) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:52 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/virtualbox.list:1 [00:21] W: Target DEP-11 (contrib/dep11/Components-i386.yml) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:52 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/virtualbox.list:1 [00:21] W: Target DEP-11 (contrib/dep11/Components-all.yml) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:52 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/virtualbox.list:1 [00:21] W: Target DEP-11-icons-small (contrib/dep11/icons-48x48.tar) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:52 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/virtualbox.list:1 [00:21] alvaro: dont post it here [00:21] see what ubottu told you [00:25] alvaro: you can talk again now, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com for the output [00:29] just did it [00:32] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RbxS43D3dm/ [00:36] alvaro: do you have an outbound firewall? [00:37] yes I do [00:38] alvaro: the hostnames of the apt mirrors your system wants to connect to seem to be resolved fine, but setting up TCP connections to those mirrors fails with a TCP connect timeout. your outbound firewall seems to be blocking these connections. [00:38] alvaro: is this what you meant by "fix broken packages" or is there yet another problem? [00:44] yes,thakns that fixed my problem [00:45] nice :) [01:04] hello [01:04] looking for help with netplan [01:06] r0tt13: Ask - and wait for response :D [01:08] I have a machine with 1 nic and i want to assign it to vlan 10 via netplan... what is the best way to accomplish this? before it was . [01:09] i looked at netplan.io and used an example for vlan, but that seems to add a vlan, but i want it tied to the main if. [01:09] currently when i add a vlan section with an address it now makes both ips pingable, but it seems to have issues with a default route [01:10] also i used 2 addresses to make it work... seems incorrect as an approach [01:10] current config: [01:11] enp3s0 has a 10.0.10.x, then vlan also has the same but incretmented by 1 [01:12] should i be leaving enp3s0 blank and move the default config to the vlan? [01:13] * enyc meows r0tt13 Deudz [01:15] r0tt13: there is a #netplan channel that might more likely get you answer... [01:15] funny .. netplan said there is an #ubuntu channel === M4he is now known as mahe [01:19] Can someone explain to me why rsync --existing -a doesn't seem to be preserving my file and directory permissions? [01:20] r0tt13: a dear... do ask in both patiently anyhow, may take the right people coming/going [01:21] I did, thanks [01:47] i solved my issue.. thanks [03:07] anyone know if the ubuntu server cloud images contain the right bits for mounting 9pfs? [03:08] papertigers: the #ubuntu-server crew might know that [03:08] thanks lotuspsychje === trekkie1701c_ is now known as trekkie1701c [04:28] hi [06:18] 123 === Droid is now known as Mekaneck [08:35] can someone tell me if it's possible to install dual boot windows alongside ubuntu 20.04 main? [08:35] silatel: yes but much easier if windows installed first, or preferably on a separate hard disk [08:35] silatel: unplug linux disk while do the latter, yo ucan get into all sorts of fun with windows overwriting bootloader and making linux 'unbootable' [08:36] enyc: the thing is i have all my important things on ubuntu rn and i dont have a hard drive [08:36] enyc: that's why i'm trying to install windows [08:36] silatel: In any case, look at virtualization for windowsrather than dual-booting [08:36] silatel: or indeed alternative apps -- what is the windows-need anyhow, others here may be able to help! [08:36] enyc: my laptop is old so virtualization runs very slow [08:37] enyc: the single and only windows need is to play dota 2 :D [08:37] silatel: what's your partition table look like? type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999' [08:37] enyc: because it runs very slow on ubuntu, but i remember a couple years ago it was running better when i had windows [08:38] enyc: if there's a solution for me to improve my dota 2 performance without installing windows i'd want to do that [08:38] silatel: https://www.protondb.com/app/570 [08:38] silatel: spec/ytpe of machine !?!? it may be better just to look at better machine anyhow! [08:39] enyc: i don't have the money right now [08:39] silatel: used thinkpad with gpu, or osmething [08:39] silatel: do you have full backup, ability to reinstall ubuntu and all profiles/data if needed? [08:40] enyc: yes why? [08:42] silatel: if you didn't you shouldn't be messing with partitions and booting ;p [08:42] enyc: oh yeah yeah i know :) [08:43] enyc: my processor is intel i5-7200 and graphics is mesa intel 620 [08:44] silatel: in terms of other OS setups, you might also try a Pop-OS-21.10 or similar (which would be better at multi-booting with ubuntu 20.04 more friendly), newer linux+proton+gaming setup, instead of win10 .... linux gaming involves all the time, recent news on anticheat improvements, etc etc... by 22.04 even in ubuntu should be much improved. [08:44] enyc: i also read about Pop OS, can i install that alongside ubuntu? [08:45] silatel: yes, and s I'm saying, more easily than windows which will like to take over booting (but may be different on UEFI) [08:45] silatel: OK that is 7th generation intel-core , rather new by my standards! [08:45] silatel: here I am typing away on x201 tablet thinkpad 1st generation! [08:46] enyc: :D yeah but dota still doesn't run that well [08:47] silatel: this may be software fun, as I'm saying try newer pop/ubuntu/etc... in a month or so 21.10 versions will be out. [08:47] anyhow! [08:47] enyc: ok then, thanks a lot i appreciate your help [08:47] :) [08:47] silatel you don't need Windows to play Dota 2. It runs natively on Ubuntu with no issues. [08:48] silatel: I *think* for pop, you want the ATI version when using intel graphics, in any case for Ubuntu, I don't think there is a special graphics driver option for Intel. [08:48] silatel your specs are much better than mine and yet I can play Ranked Dota 2 at 30 fps with minimal settings. [08:48] KBar: indeed, but poor performance for silatel, not sure why, suggesting try newer linux 21.10 versions when released. maybe you know more speciic ... Are you us 20.04 LTS stock ubuntu !?!? [08:50] silatel to improve performance, make sure nothing is running in the background. Plus, switching to Xfce/Xubuntu might also be a great way to increase FPS by a bit. [08:50] ok guys thanks a lot === diskin is now known as Guest250 === diskin_ is now known as diskin [09:03] `apt list --upgradable` lists 11 packages can be upgraded but `update-manager` is sure that 'The software on this computer is up to date'. Does anyone have any idea what's going on? [09:05] libnss-systemd, libpam-systemd, libsystemd0, libsystemd0, libudev-dev, libudev1, libudev1, systemd-sysv, systemd-timesyncd, systemd, udev [09:05] These are the upgradable packages. [09:11] KBar: what does 'apt-cache policy systemd' give? [09:11] and which ubuntu version are you using? [09:11] `apt-cache policy` says "Install systemd system and services." [09:14] EriC^^ `apt-cache policy` confirms that there is a candidate: [09:14] `systemd: [09:14] Installed: 245.4-4ubuntu3.11 [09:14] Candidate: 245.4-4ubuntu3.13` [09:15] Ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS (Xubuntu flavor) [09:18] KBar: please don't cross post [09:18] you already asked in #xubuntu [09:19] It's also relevant to Ubuntu, though. [09:23] still, cross posting is not done: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [09:23] you're asking in #xubuntu when this discussion was started [09:24] KBar: try to keep the discussion in one channel please. Thanks in advance. [09:25] Mekaneck https://ubuntu.com/community/code-of-conduct [09:25] irrelevant in this matter [09:26] KBar: you were asked kindly so please try do do so as asked. Thanks [09:29] !ops [09:29] Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, chu [09:29] !ops [09:30] KBar: trying to poke fun now? [09:30] not sure why you call the ops over nothing [09:32] KBar: also calling the ops won't matter, they won't do a thing at all. They are probably not even around and the list is old, most of them aren't Ops anymore so it's of no use. [09:33] !ops [09:33] Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, chu [09:33] something wrong ExplosiveUB? [09:33] !ops [09:33] Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, chu [09:33] Can you share insights on how much does microcode by AMD/Intel made in system performance and stability including temps? [09:34] ExplosiveUB: stop it please [09:34] ! ops [09:34] Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, chu [09:34] !ops [09:35] ExplosiveUB: are you quite done? [09:35] !ops [09:35] Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, chu [09:35] ExplosiveUB: you've been reported [09:35] i'm not being reported [09:35] bye bye [09:36] was trying to decide if I should do that >.> [09:36] thanks popey [09:36] don't wait, just do it. now, let's move on [09:36] A_Dragon: faster action is needed sometimes [09:36] popey: in future that something you want staff to poke at? [09:36] Mekaneck: its not my channel so Im still learning :P [09:36] A_Dragon: let's take it to #ubuntu-discuss [10:46] Hi guys [10:48] I've got a problem: When I try to reboot the gnome shell through ALT+F2+R, after it, the system changes resolution, and make it bigger. [10:48] To solve it I should reboot the system [10:51] Is there someone? [10:56] privato89: someone here yes someone with a good answer???? [10:58] no one I think [11:27] hi there can anyone help me on ssh tunneling and settings for remote [11:30] can anyone help me plz [11:33] doxa: man ssh_config [11:33] look for ProxyJump [11:34] ı know it [11:34] if you want to tunnel ssh over ssh [11:34] ı ı want to tunnel over my router to server without vpn and forwarding [11:35] use SSH [11:36] google "ssh tunneling" [11:36] or "ssh port forwarding" [11:36] ı did all commands in there [11:36] my modem dont let me vpn or port forwardıng [11:36] ıts my problem [11:38] and your modem runs ubuntu ? (how would we be able to help here ??) [11:38] if it blocks everything there is not much you can do ... [11:38] no ı have a modem and linux server connected to that [11:46] Hi guys, [11:46] I got a problem which I think it relates to the gnome shell. I'm using Ubuntu 20.04 LTS Focal Fossa. I noticed lately that every time the gnome shell reboots or I reboot it manually via ALT + F2 + R, after it, the screen change resolution and everything gets bigger, so to solve I have to restart the system. [11:46] Why should happen this and how to fix it? [11:46] Thanks [11:47] you can change the resolution back in the settings [11:48] No, in setting the resolution is still the same [11:49] Every time I reboot the shell it get bigger the screen [11:51] check the UI scale parameter too [11:52] how do it? [11:52] Hi folks [11:54] in 21.04, there's a "Scale" setting in the display settings [11:54] 20.04 has something similar I think [11:55] cbreak , It doen't changes [11:55] I checked [11:55] and if you change it, and then change it back? [11:57] cbreak , no it doesn't [11:58] Would someone be able to tell me which apt repository is failing the key check based off of this? https://dpaste.org/FPLA [12:01] yes [12:01] . W: An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: https://dl.yarnpkg.com/debian stable InRelease: The following signatures were invalid: EXPKEYSIG 23E7166788B63E1E Yarn Packaging [12:01] it's the Yarn repo [12:05] klausfiend: thanks! I found a github issue and it seems a while back they changed keys. Re-adding the key fixed it [12:05] Any idea what's happening with the postgres repo? Do I have the wrong architecture type selected? https://dpaste.org/FPLA#L18 [12:08] Found the solution https://stackoverflow.com/questions/61523447/skipping-acquire-of-configured-file-main-binary-i386-packages [12:13] Any solutions to run Snapchat directly? [12:14] from what I see it must be bluestack via wine [12:20] vimart: snapchat is mobile/android based, try virtualbox + androidx86 iso and run snapchat from there on your ubuntu [15:16] you can also use anbox [15:16] vimart: https://anbox.io/ [15:16] allows you to run android apps in a container on GNU/Linux [15:17] so basically you get native performance, no hardware virtualization whatsoever [15:18] last time i tested anbox was a bit of flaky experience legend [15:24] last time I tested anbox, I had a great experience [15:24] so it depends on what apps you are running [15:25] I've managed to get social media apps working no problem, haven't tried games yet [15:43] Hey, kinda worried, my server is slowing to a crawl, and BYOBU's disk IO monitors are reporting super high usages of 1-2GB/s read and 500MB-1GB/s write. iostat, dstat and htop all show now real activity. How can I find the source of this killing my server? Thanks [15:47] Try iotop [15:49] ravage: Literally took 5 seconds to launch, another couple seconds to populate and its showing 0B/s I/O whilst BYOBU still shows 1GB/s [15:49] even typing into bash is laggy [15:52] maybe the BYOBU monitor just sucks? never used it [15:53] Well, I would be inclined to agree, except, another server is showing very low usage, and also, the server is shitting itself with lag [15:53] so something is clearly wrong [15:53] Pokey: logs to the rescue [15:56] lotuspsychje: dmesg -w shows nothing exciting, just the occasional forewall block, its not spewing activity [15:57] !info lynis | Pokey maybe a deeper investigation then [15:57] Pokey maybe a deeper investigation then: lynis (3.0.2-1, hirsute): security auditing tool for Unix based systems. In component universe, is optional. Built by lynis. Size 213 kB / 1,549 kB [15:59] wich server release are you on Pokey and kernel version? when did the lag start to occur? [15:59] Linux 5.4.0-59-generic #65-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 10 12:01:51 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [16:00] I couldn't tell you exactly when the lag started to occur, just, this IRC connection I speak to you on is running upon that server, and this morning I was kicked off of all of my networks, so I logged in to take a look [16:01] When I logged in, MySQL was crapping itself all over my CPU, pinning it to 100% (my own fault) so I stopped its service, so thats definitely not running now [16:01] I have since rebooted the box [16:02] I realkise that uname -a output does not mention release, so, 20.04 [16:03] s/realkise/realise [16:03] then it's time to upgrade the kernel (current is 5.4.0.86) === Exa is now known as Exagone313 === Exagone313 is now known as Exa [16:05] ioria: An outdated kernel, whilst not good and yes should be updated, should not cause a system to be reading and writing gigs per second and locking up at a bash prompt [16:06] lotuspsychje: I'm running the lynis using the default command line options as shown on their site [16:06] Pokey, can you paste 'ps auxf | sort -k3 | nc termbin.com 9999' [16:06] yeah well its not really prudent to keep kernels behind 24/7 neither [16:08] ioria: Sure, just had to check it for sensitive info hence delay [16:09] Unsorted: https://termbin.com/6j1b Sorted: https://termbin.com/bl0g [16:10] it contains my hostname but oh well [16:13] Pokey: did you enable logging so it's writing to a file? [16:16] TJ-: Logging for what in particular? And surely if so, it would show in IO statistics? [16:17] Pokey: sorry, I'd scrolled back! BYOBU (ex 'screen') [16:18] TJ-: Didn't even know BYOBU has a logging option, so no, it is not logging. But there shouldn't be enough logging anyway to spike at 4GB/s writes [16:19] Pokey: can you tell which files/sockets it has open by grabbing its process ID and looking at "ls -l /proc//fd" ? [16:21] The lagginess is occurring even without BYOBU open at all, but sure: https://termbin.com/ag0q4 [16:47] Pokey: have you checked the kernel log for unexpected reports? [16:47] Hi, I instaleld a version of ubuntu on a mac, and the sound when using GNOME or ubuntu window manager is working. but I installed openbox, and there it seems sound isn't working, also pavucontrol for pulse audio is not working correctly, it flashes in the beginning (showing something, and then saying that it tries to connect to the daemon). Any [16:47] idea what is going on here ? [16:48] what is the application btw, in the traybar that shows the volume slider etc ? [16:55] TJ-: I mean, if you mean dmesg, yes, nothing abnormal [16:56] lotuspsychje: lynis' default execute showed me a bunch of warnings for things I am already aware of, other than that, nothing interesting [16:56] Pokey: right, I've seen that kind of issue when there's I/O device errors [16:58] TJ-: Errors would show as no Disk IO using normal tools, extremely high disk IO using BYOBU and cause the system to be crawling slow? [16:59] Pokey: hitting the kernel not devices [17:00] TJ-: Oh I see, you're saying you've seen that kind of situation before, not that I am experiencing it necessarily [17:00] Pokey: yes, and it is confusing! [17:01] TJ-: Very much so. I can't use the server properly at all at the moment [17:01] Pokey: what OS release is that? [17:01] 20.04 [17:03] Pokey: and which kernel ("uname -r") [17:03] Thanks for the command ptr [17:03] 5.4.0-59-generic [17:11] Pokey: doing some checks in case this is known [17:13] Pokey: have a scan through these bug reports in case any seem to match https://bugs.launchpad.net/byobu/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0 [17:14] keke [17:18] With Ubuntu 21.10 (Beta), is there a way to install extensions with Firefox? I am currently getting issues with the chrome-gnome-shell and the new sandboxed firefox.... Getting around it by installing and using Chrome [17:19] !ubuntu+1 | troozers [17:19] troozers: Impish Indri is the codename for Ubuntu 21.10. For technical support, see #ubuntu-next. For testing and QA feedback and help, see #ubuntu-quality. [17:20] Oops, will go and ask there - thanks :) [17:24] hi all [17:24] can i get some assistance in re-installing a BT adapter ? [17:27] VIA: could you describe what you mean [17:36] paz can i get some assistance in re-installing a BT adapter ? [17:36] lol [17:37] BT adapter not working. [17:37] bluetooth [17:37] maybe needs driver purge or something i dont know if i would i wouldnt ask [17:38] VIA: show us " pastebinit <( journalctl -k ) " [17:42] I am running xfce on ubuntu 20.4.03. I plugged in a second monitor but can only get it to show the upper left quandrant of my other monitor. Is there any way to configure this properly on ubuntu? [17:43] loganrun: Settings Manager > Display [17:45] so oyu have no concrete idea TJ- ? [17:45] VIA: not until you give us some data to work with [17:46] loganrun: with xfce question, you may have a better audience in #xubuntu - but do point it out if you'r enot actually using xubuntu. [17:47] playing with xrandr directly may or may not help [17:48] and much will depend on your graphics hardware and, moreover, drivers. [17:48] tomreyn, It looks like I have to use the Nvidia app directly to do it [17:48] well this command seems slightly usefull thanks anyway [17:49] loganrun: that will be so if you are limited to nvidia drivers. [17:54] u were interested in this TJ- https://pastebin.com/SwhSYTDM ? [17:54] tomreyn, yeah, I have an nvidia graphics card [17:55] VIA: I need to see the entire log, not just a short excerpt [17:55] the stupid nvidia-settings app crashes when I try to write the xorg.conf file.also it doesn't seem to exist, it wants to write it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf [17:55] right [18:03] TJ-: I'm pretty certain this has nothing to do with BYOBU [18:03] The whole system is almost at a standstill with BYOBU closed [18:15] Pokey: hmmmm, it's a tricky one then. You can't find any indicators of the cause, no clues, anything 'feels' wrong? [18:15] TJ-: Nothing other than the fact its hellishly slow [18:16] Pokey: how about updating to latest first? [18:16] Pokey: how many users currently? use this: "w" [18:16] TJ-: Literally just me right now [18:16] there are hunters out there, scanning outdated servers like yours :p [18:17] Welp [18:17] I guess I'll just install all updates [18:18] Pokey: is there no process eating at least a bit of extra CPU? [18:19] Pokey: have you tried using 'atop' to analyse it - that is quite useful in these cases [18:20] Pokey: the summary device list at top may reveal something [18:24] TJ-: Nop,e and atop shows nothing, and nothing in top or iotop [18:28] Pokey: is the host running any containers, or virtual machines? [18:32] TJ-: Containers, yes, but they're all stopped [18:33] right now I apparently have a consistent 2 GB/s read and 3GB/s write [18:39] 20.04 Hey my Ubuntu volume during zoom keeps going down. I actually cannot keep it up, even by keeping my finger on the button holding it there. What's up with htat? [18:39] I am fully updated [18:46] TJ-: Sorry, went offline due to server reboot after updates. If you said anything after [19:33:20] right now I apparently have a consistent 2 GB/s read and 3GB/s write [18:46] I missed it [18:46] Pokey: no, I saw you drop off [18:46] Pokey: any improvement after the reboot? [18:46] The reboot has certainly calmed it down now but its still ~300MB/s and iotop shows no real usage [18:46] Its not dead of lag though [18:47] where are you seeing this 300MB/s reported if iotop doesn't report it? [18:48] TJ-: Specifically in BYOBU [18:49] In the config menu it is labelled as disk_io [18:49] Pokey: so you're only seeing this in BYOBU stats? [18:49] Pokey: you have no other evidence that there is actually disk I/O from the tools that really know how to report it [18:50] TJ-: Correct, which does lead one to believe BYOBU could be showing wrong stats, but something tells me it isn't totally wrong, as when the disk usage was 2-4GB/s on BYOBU, the whole server (even with BYOBU fully closed) was almost at a standstill and iotop showed nothing [18:50] Pokey: you reported sluggish input; was that with BYOBU or without? Because I saw quite a few bug reports of false stats and laggy behaviour of BYOBU [18:50] without [18:50] Pokey: was BYOBU stopped or was there a process detached in background? [18:51] Stopped [18:51] Pokey: try disabling BYOBU entirely and see if you can still detect laggy behaviour, I/O issues [18:52] It is just a tmux wrapper, and with it not open, the server was still laggy as hell [18:52] It isn't laggy at this very moment [18:52] I'll have to monitor it [18:56] Pokey: I suspect it is loosely related to this bug (misreading block device stats) https://bugs.launchpad.net/byobu/+bug/1658524 [18:56] Launchpad bug 1658524 in byobu "tmux: disk_io hides right statusbar" [Medium, Confirmed] [18:57] Pokey: are there any loopdevs (snaps maybe like lxd) ? [19:05] TJ-: Yes [19:14] Pokey: I'd focus on the "i/o" on those virtual devices - that's almost certainly the source of the I/O stats; as to the lag, that may be a by-product of those figure changing so much the stats are continuously being regenerated for the status bar [19:17] TJ-: The stats there would make some sense except 4GB/s? and the lag was occuring with BYOBU fully closed so no stats generation [19:19] Pokey: right, but sometimes there are background processes generating those stats anyhow. It may not be this but right now it'd be my prime suspect [19:35] Again apt error: https://pasteboard.co/uA9gZcewuW4g.png [19:36] Please advise how to fix [19:38] croraf_: does the given file exist, who is it owned by? [19:56] tomreyn, -fopen is not part of the file name? [19:56] I have this "-rw------- 1 _apt root 4502 kol 10 14:05 repo.skype.com_deb_dists_stable_InRelease" [19:58] croraf_: hmm, okay, for me (18.04 LTS) it's all owned by root:root, and with group/other read access: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root [19:58] im on 20.04.3 [19:59] croraf_: so you did not apply changes to ownership or permissions there yourself, irght? [19:59] *right [20:00] no [20:01] hmm it's also root:root with -rw-r--r-- on a 20.04 LTS VM i have [20:01] wait i had the same issue yesterday with mongodb package [20:02] io'ria i think solved it by doing something [20:03] can you check that in the history [20:03] 1-2 days ago [20:03] check how he solved it [20:03] so can you. [20:03] !irclogs [20:03] Official channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ [20:08] Hmmm, tomreyn. I check that now. Strange. I had mongodb warning yesterday, and apt update showed skype GPG error, so I did [20:08] curl https://repo.skype.com/data/SKYPE-GPG-KEY | sudo apt-key add - [20:08] as ior'ia suggested [20:08] I wonder if anyone here has some experience trying to get Intel Quick Sync to work in Ubuntu [20:09] But that was mongodb permission error. Now I have skype permission error [20:09] In the UI. But in terminal on apt update I had an error on skype repo. [20:10] After the curl command skype error in the terminal got fixed, but now I have skype error in the UI [20:19] croraf_: sudo find /var/lib/apt/lists -maxdepth 1 -type f -exec chmod 644 {} + -exec chown root:root {} + [20:20] this would update permissions and ownership on all files in this very directory /var/lib/apt/lists to match what i'm seeing [20:20] tomreyn, what are the "+" signs for never seen that before [20:21] ramblebamble: it's a way to indicate to gnu find that the command to be executed ends there [20:22] ah so that way find executes 2 exec commands at once? I always used \; the terminate exec, quite interesting thanks [20:23] ramblebamble: \; only passes one {} but \+ will add as mnay {} as it can to the -exec chown command line [20:23] find(1) -> ACTIONS -> -exec command {} + [20:23] ramblebamble: which results in less executions of the chown command [20:24] TJ- thanks [20:24] ramblebamble: in other words; more than one filename is put on the 'chown' command line [20:25] yes gotcha, I am always amazed, you know the manpages you read them every once in a while if you need sth and you are still missing stuff :D [20:25] ramblebamble: especially 'find' ! [20:26] yeah, and also sed and awk and they are what? 20-30 years old now? [20:27] about 14 years ago I was writing long awk programs to analyse ACPI DSDT; forgotten so much, and go back to that code to re-learn the tricks! [20:27] * ramblebamble chuckls [20:27] I do the same thing for other stuff I do [20:28] keeping programs around to look stuff up [20:31] I tend to remember concepts rather than the exact syntax (I know it can be done, and can visualise the solution in almost any programming language or tool, but not the exact syntax or exact option name), so end up rediscovering code from old programs, and command options from man-pages [20:33] hmmm,, until you end up in a programming language with a completly different paradigm but I hear you am the same way [20:34] gets frustrating when you have to language surf (I have to do that chasing down bugs/adding features across all packages) [20:35] Thankfully, that is something I can only imagine [20:35] When you say packages, are we talking about apt-packages? [20:36] ramblebamble: yes; all Debian/Ubuntu packages [20:36] ramblebamble: also some projects I'm on the process of packaging for Debian [20:36] ok then I have to ask, what is your job that you do that? [20:36] ramblebamble: I don't have one as such [20:37] I run some R&D/Innovation businesses but I tend to spend my time hacking on code as much as possible [20:37] k, now I am confused [20:37] ah ok gotcha [20:38] we get to bang our heads against bleeding-edge Debian and Ubuntu bugs :D [20:38] ahh, so that is where the blood comes from when one looks at the edge [20:39] you got it :) with that, must get to bed, late here. Don't lose your find :) [20:39] tomreyn, let me see once more. all in that folder have this permission: -rw-r--r-- [20:39] :D thanks, nighty night TJ- [20:40] only this skype that is causing problem has this permission -rw------- [20:40] So I guess I just have to change that file to have the same permission? [20:41] croraf_: you can then just sudo chmod 644 this file. but you'll also need to change file ownership, i assume [20:42] running the find command should still work and not break things [20:42] How do i get appimage apps running on ubuntu? [20:42] yes, this is the only file that is owned by _apt [20:44] tomreyn, by just changing the ownership it got the correct permissions [20:44] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4502 kol 10 14:05 repo.skype.com_deb_dists_stable_InRelease [20:45] croraf_: now run sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade and post any output to https://paste.ubuntu.com or another pastebin [20:45] no change in those commands [20:45] everything up to date [20:45] as it was before the fix [20:46] no W:arnings, no E:rrors? [20:46] nothing, not even before this fix [20:46] does sudo apt full-upgrade want to do anything? [20:47] The error in the UI disappeard when I closed Skype [20:47] And now it didnt reappear [20:47] no, it does nothing [20:47]