[01:22] <shay> !ask where can i find a driver for ubuntu 21.04 for the Yamaha Audiogram 6 MIDI Board (USB audio input device)?
[01:32] <klausfiend> okay, i have a puzzler. i set up an LV on top of a VG striped across two physical disks (whole disks, no partitions) and the LV won't mount unless i open up parted and set partition 1 (which magically comes into existence) as "lvm" (although the UUID is persistent) … which means a manual step every time i reboot
[01:35] <klausfiend> has anyone encountered something like that before and if so is there a way to fix it short of wiping my entire PV and restoring?
[03:08] <Afdal> Can someone tell me real quick where Ubuntu stores its system font configuration settings?
[03:09] <Afdal> Havin trouble locating it
[03:09] <Afdal> When I change stuff with the Appearance GUI for example, what file are all those changes written to?
[03:12] <Afdal> oh I guess that's specifically an xfce4 tool
[03:15] <Afdal> Aha, it's etc/fonts/fonts.conf isn't it
[03:15] <Afdal> I'm gettin good at using strace :)
[03:16] <Bashing-om> Afdal: My xfce install: sysop@2004x-c:~$ ls -al etc/fonts/ >> ls: cannot access 'etc/fonts/': No such file or directory .
[03:17] <Afdal> uh well
[03:17] <Afdal>  /etc/fonts/
[03:17] <Afdal> Need the first slash :)
[03:18] <Afdal> Actually I think it might not be fonts.conf
[03:18] <Afdal> dangit what is it...
[03:21] <Bashing-om> Afdal: Uh Huh ! >> -rw-r--r--   1 root root  2808 Apr  6  2020 fonts.conf .
[03:21] <Afdal> :o?
[03:21] <Afdal> I don't think that physically stores current font settings though
[03:22] <Afdal> yeah, no, it's somewhere else...
[03:23] <Bashing-om> Afdal: Fonts are in /usr/share/fonts/ directory.
[03:23] <Afdal> Yeah I know where fonts are stored
[03:24] <Afdal> What I want is the system file that stores the font settings.  Like what font is currently being used, its size, anti-aliasing, etc.
[03:35] <Afdal> Aha, it's ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xsettings.xml
[03:38] <Afdal> No, wait...  I guess that's only true on certain distros
[03:38] <Afdal> oof -_-
[03:39] <Afdal> I guess what I'm really looking for is where ubuntu stores its -default- font settings
[03:39] <Afdal> used when you don't specify something with your particular desktop environment
[06:43] <Guest6748> Hi
[06:44] <Guest6748> I want to report a bug in ubuntu 20.04.3 LTS
[06:44] <Guest6748> Can report it here?
[06:47] <Guest6748> Is anyone listening me?
[06:47] <ogra> Guest6748, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[06:49] <golden_ticket> I installed https://github.com/IBM/clai but it only executes under /bin/bash. I'm using /bin/zsh, how do I make my system recognize the command?
[06:50] <Guest6748> Can I just not tell it here?
[06:51] <Guest6748> That error or bug?
[06:51] <ogra> Guest6748, how would that help anyone ? the developers that can fix it watch launchpad for bug reports
[06:51] <ogra> ... they are usually not around here
[06:52] <Guest6748> Ok
[06:52] <Guest6748> But that process is a bit complex.
[06:53] <Guest6748> Isn't there a chat alternative for it?
[06:54] <alkisg> Guest6748: no, you can't expect application developers to be available on chat 24/7, you need to use bug trackers. But are you certain that this is a bug? You can discuss it here before reporting it...
[06:54] <Guest6748> Ok
[06:55] <Guest6748> Yes that's what I wanted to do
[06:55] <Guest6748> So when I open apps in ubuntu
[06:55] <Guest6748> And I click on the basket or folder  of utilities
[06:56] <Guest6748> Then if I do not click on any of the utility apps
[06:57] <Guest6748> Instead I click on the empty space far away from the folder
[06:57] <Guest6748> Then what happens is that
[06:57] <Guest6748> Many dots come in apps list
[06:57] <Guest6748> Before doing this all there were only two dots
[06:58] <Guest6748> Means apps were present in first page and then on second
[06:59] <Guest6748> And there were two dots one for first and other four second
[06:59] <Guest6748> But after this all the dots increased considerably
[06:59] <Guest6748> Even when the app pages remained two only
[07:00] <Guest6748> This was the bug or error I was talking about
[07:01] <Guest6748> So what should I do now?
[07:02] <alkisg> Personally I'm not using Ubuntu GNOME, but Ubuntu MATE, so I haven't seen what you're describing. You may wait for feedback from others; sometimes people reply in a few minutes, sometimes in more... but you may go to launchpad and report the bug even if noone replies
[07:03] <Guest6748> Ok
[08:20] <nikolam> Hi, I am on 21.04 Xubuntu and having one monitor connected to DiplayPort to HDMI cable (DP on 4600HD i5 4570 on HP 600G1 TWR) and another monitor on VGA output. Problem is that , while in GRUB, when I go and select menus with keyboard cursors, meny selection gets _desinchronised_ between two monitors!
[08:21] <nikolam> E.G. refreshing the picture on DP output ot HDMI monitor lags behind 5+ seconds after the VGA monitor..
[08:22] <nikolam> This must be a new behavior , because I didn't have that before... After booting HDMI monitor behaves almost normally, except it blacks down when I am starting some apps. and then it comes back.
[08:23] <nikolam> I wondwr how it's even possible for two mirrored images to be decynchronized at boot. Is it about GRUB.. or hardware
[08:43] <Saviq> bfortified: hey,  no it's not (directly) possible.  You could use the `libvirt` or `LXD` backends and tweak the machine there directly
[08:44] <Saviq> bfortified: we try to avoid backend / platform-specific features in Multipass
[08:47] <Metamorphosis> Hello everyone, I installed and purged Signal messenger, but I still see its repo link during cmd apt updates, how can I completely remove it?
[08:49] <ravage> Remove the sources file from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[09:23] <daoumilseitek> hey is it possible to install nodejs 12 in ubuntu 20.04 ? only node 10 is available by default
[09:25] <ravage> daoumilseitek: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-node-js-on-ubuntu-20-04
[09:54] <Proxysna> daoumilseitek, you can check this out. Second variant. https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-node-js-on-ubuntu-20-04
[09:54] <Proxysna> Just specify which version you want to install using apt.
[09:58] <ogra> daoumilseitek,  just "sudo snap install node" ...  snap info node shows you the 11 stable versions maintained by nodejs upstream you can pick from by using the --channel option to the install command
[09:59] <ogra> (this is rolling, so it gets regulary updated, unlike the deb packages)
[10:03] <daoumilseitek> thanks for the recommendations
[10:04] <daoumilseitek> i'll do it in a vm though
[10:04] <daoumilseitek> it's too bad standard apt can't follow node
[10:04] <daoumilseitek> better*
[10:05] <ogra> updating stable debs in a release is hard (this is why snaps exist) ... also debs in universe get "best effort" security fixes only
[11:13] <mohit> hello i need some help as i am unable to use webcam on firefox
[11:13] <mohit> i am using hp pavillion '
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> mohit: does your cam work on cheese?
[11:19] <mohit> yes
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> mohit: the website you trying to cam on, using flash or so?
[11:20] <mohit> how do i see it
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> mohit: online test would, like https://seositecheckup.com/tools/flash-test
[11:23] <mohit> it does not include flash objects
[11:24] <ramblebamble> mohit, have you checked FF permissions for the website?
[11:25] <mohit> yes
[11:25] <mohit> its was allowed
[11:28] <ramblebamble> you don't happen to have s.th. like firejail or bumblewrap running with your browser?
[11:28] <mohit> no
[11:30] <ramblebamble> mohit, open the console in ff any webpage and paste navigator.mediaDevices.getUserMedia({ audio: true, video: true }) into the console, it will ask for access to the camera and mic, do you get a permissions prompt?
[11:33] <mohit> where exactly i have to paste it
[11:33] <mohit> ??
[11:34] <rambleba1> mohit, got disconnected what is the result of the JS snippet?
[11:34] <mohit> how do i find the console
[11:34] <mohit> ??
[11:35] <rambleba1> visit any website or the start-page does not matter, press F12 select tab Console
[11:35] <rambleba1> and for the record, there used to be a "worm" abusing the user's trust and they would past random, obfuscated snippets of JS in there and got owned
[11:36] <rambleba1> so be mindful what you are pasting in that console because it runs in the context of the website and has full sway as far as access to the website is concered
[11:37] <mohit> it says hidden
[11:38] <mohit> it says hidden
[11:38] <rambleba1> what do you mean hidden?
[11:38] <rambleba1> where does it say that?
[11:38] <rambleba1> console or UI
[11:38] <mohit> it does not show hidden in the area where i pasted the link
[11:38] <rambleba1> oh one more thing: did you by any chance run apt upgrade?
[11:38] <mohit> no
[11:39] <rambleba1> k
[11:39] <rambleba1> do we have a pastebin for screenshots?
[11:39] <mohit> yup
[11:39] <rambleba1> care to share?
[11:41] <mohit> x-special/nautilus-clipboard
[11:41] <mohit> copy
[11:41] <mohit> file:///home/mohit/Pictures/Screenshot%20from%202021-09-27%2017-10-22.png
[11:42] <mohit> does it help
[11:42]  * rambleba1 laughs
[11:42] <rambleba1> nope, I was looking for a pastebin to share a screenshot WITH YOU and vice versa so I know what you see and you know what I was expecting
[11:43] <mohit> mohit006
[11:44] <mohit> that is the username
[11:44] <mohit> for pastebin
[11:47] <mohit> i have got the extension
[11:47] <mohit> in ff
[11:47] <mohit> simple pastebin
[11:50] <rambleba1> mohit, naa that is not what I ment plus the screenshot utility in FF is most likely not able to take a screeny from the UI of FF
[11:50] <rambleba1> here that is what I would expect https://ibb.co/K92QvVS
[11:50] <rambleba1> is a drop down appearing below your URL-bar once you have entered the JS snippet
[11:52] <rambleba1> because cheese shows your webcam so your system knows of your webcame. so the problem must be with FF
[11:52] <rambleba1> mohit when was the last time you restarted FF?
[11:53] <mohit> doing it now
[11:53] <mohit> no change still the same
[11:55] <rambleba1> mohit what does your about:config say when you enter amera
[11:55] <rambleba1> sry camera
[11:56] <mohit> media.getusermedia.camera.background.mute.enabled	false	
[11:56] <mohit> media.getusermedia.camera.off_while_disabled.delay_ms	3000	
[11:56] <mohit> media.getusermedia.camera.off_while_disabled.enabled	true	
[11:56] <mohit> permissions.default.camera	0
[11:57] <rambleba1> k that is default
[11:59] <mohit> i tried webcam test
[11:59] <mohit> it is working fine on that website
[12:01] <mohit> i also get the error as string time not recognized
[12:01] <mohit> as valid date/time
[12:01] <rambleba1> Then the problem is most likely with the website
[12:01] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:02] <rambleba1> what does the console say when you try to have your webcam accessed by that website
[12:04] <mohit> WebExtensions: reset-default-search: starting. api.js:183
[12:04] <mohit> WebExtensions: reset-default-search: has already ran once and saw panel, exit. api.js:210
[12:06] <rambleba1> There you have it, contact the Admin and move on
[12:06] <rambleba1> nothing you or anyone else can do
[12:06] <rambleba1> at least anyone in this channel
[12:07] <rambleba1> if the error is fatal that is, but seeing that your webcam runs on your computer and with FF on other websites it is a good bet
[12:08] <mohit> admin means whom should i contact
[12:08] <mohit> ?
[12:08] <alterjsive> what mainline kernel version >5.12 would you recommend for kubuntu 21.04? (Got a problem with my dock https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1926809)
[12:09] <alterjsive> (k)ubuntu*
[12:09] <rambleba1> mohit whoever you can get a hold of that is responsible for the website or knows someoe who is
[12:10] <mohit> ok thanks for being prompt to address this issue
[12:10] <alterjsive> I was thinking about the kernel from ubuntu 21.10 beta
[12:10] <alterjsive> but I don't know the exact version there
[12:14] <alterjsive> I guess itś just Linux 5.13 kernel
[12:18] <alterjsive> is it relatively safe to install a newer kernel with mainline? ppa:cappelikan/ppa
[12:20] <ogra> alterjsive, no, it is not ...
[12:20] <alterjsive> ogra: ok thanks. I guess I better switch to another distro since I I also have custom kernel modules for my laptop
[12:21] <alterjsive> https://asus-linux.org/asusctl/
[12:21] <ogra> alterjsive, the mainline PPA is only for testing/verification when some kernel team person asks you to do so in a bug, these kernels are not maintained, receive no security fixes, miss a lot of patches and will not auto-upgrade
[12:21] <alterjsive> ok thanks
[12:21] <jushur> actually it depends, if it is compiled with the same src and settings, and say enabling a module it would be fine. if you change src in any way your out on thinner ice..
[12:23] <ogra> alterjsive, see the first paragraph at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds they are clearly not for daily use
[12:23] <alterjsive> ogra: ok thanks allot.
[12:23] <Recon> Getting a screen tearing issue on Chrome while video playback and scrolling. nvidia x settings app is completely empty/blank for some reason. How do I get the nvidia xserver back?
[12:24] <alterjsive> I guess I can wait a few weeks for the release of kubuntu 21.10
[12:24] <Recon> I have Ubuntu 20.04
[12:25] <alterjsive> ah wait it's 1 month.
[12:27] <ogra> the beta got released last week though
[12:36] <hyperknot> Hi, I've locked myself out of my server's SSH, I don't know how. I can get in via KVM and I've enabled password authentication, yet I still cannot log in via SSH. I can log in via KVM. How can I debug this?
[12:36] <hyperknot> 18.04
[12:37] <ramblebamble> hyperknot, you happen to try to login as root?
[12:37] <hyperknot> yes
[12:38] <ramblebamble> then check your sshd config there is an option dedicated to disable logins from user root
[12:38] <ramblebamble> after that restart sshd
[12:38] <hyperknot> OK, I am able to log in as non-root user
[12:41] <hyperknot> but what is happening with root? I've always been able to log in as root
[12:42] <ramblebamble> dunno, updated sshd recently, new server, did maintenance of your server(managed?) change the sshd-configuration
[12:42] <hyperknot> I didn't do any of these
[12:43] <ramblebamble> is a password set for root? changed the ssh-key recently is the ssh-key under $HOME/.ssh/autorized_keys the right one?
[12:43] <hyperknot> Authentication refused: bad ownership or modes for directory /root
[12:43] <hyperknot> I think I found it in auth.log
[12:44] <ramblebamble> ah then lock at tree -al $HOME/.ssh
[12:44] <hyperknot> it's not that, it's /root, it became user
[12:45] <ramblebamble> then do a sudo su ;)
[12:45] <hyperknot> with chown it's fixed now root works
[12:45] <hyperknot> but I'm super curious how could it happen
[12:45] <ramblebamble> did you create the autorized_keys recently?
[12:46] <ramblebamble> or .ssh for that matter
[12:46] <hyperknot> wow this is crazy, untarring a tar sets the chown of the folder
[12:47] <hyperknot> I just run tar -xjvf ... as root in /root and it changed home dir's ownership
[12:48] <ramblebamble> hyperknot, off the cuffs I don't know baout tar but you may also have a look at umask
[12:51] <MrBar> hello
[12:51] <oerheks>  
[13:06] <Tonius> Hi! Someone try to use iostat with mdadm raid ?
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> please no crossposting in the ubuntu channels Tonius
[13:44] <hyperknot> Hi, what is the right way of installing the linux-tools package? Should I install generic or `uname -r`?
[13:45] <hyperknot> will it upgrade in the future if I install `uname-r` today?
[13:46] <oerheks> !find find  linux-tools
[13:46] <oerheks> !find linux-tools
[13:46] <oerheks> i think so yes
[13:46] <oerheks> !find linux-tools focal
[13:47] <hyperknot> so how do I install the kernel version depended packages?
[13:47] <hyperknot> how do they stay updated to new kernels?
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> hyperknot: apt is smart, it will ask you to install depends
[13:48] <oerheks> info linux-tools-common
[13:48] <oerheks> !info linux-tools-common
[13:49] <oerheks> common package will do, i guess
[13:49] <hyperknot> ok, so I need to install common and it takes care of the versioning for me?
[13:50] <oerheks> hmm, i tested it, but it does not pull linux-tools-<something>
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> hyperknot: what are you trying to do exactly?
[13:52] <hyperknot> use cpupower
[13:52] <hyperknot> OK, -common didn't work, it still needed the kernel modules
[13:52] <hyperknot> -generic installs everything
[13:52] <oerheks> kernel update comming in, brb
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> hyperknot: in this tut, they install several; https://krimson8.github.io/linux/2019/03/13/Configuring-CPU-frequency.html
[13:58] <hyperknot> btw, how can I persist cpu governor changes?
[14:00] <ravage> hyperknot: sysctl.conf
[14:01] <hyperknot> I didn't find anything in sysctl
[14:02] <hyperknot> there is /etc/default/cpufrequtils
[14:02] <hyperknot> but I don't know what uses it
[14:02] <oerheks> sudo systemctl disable ondemand # gives performance mode ( not sure why anyone wants to control cpu speed ), else https://askubuntu.com/questions/1021748/set-cpu-governor-to-performance-in-18-04
[14:11] <hyperknot> oerheks: great!
[14:51] <jayamade> Goodday users, has anyone had any issues connecting a second monitor where the second hdmi is not discovered
[14:57] <ravage> im sure someone did at some point
[15:48] <mythos> hiho. just looked at https://ubuntu.com/security/CVE-2021-29921
[15:48] <mythos> and there is something weird with ubuntu focal
[15:49] <mythos> it says it fixed it with 3.8.5. which could be true. but the latest version is 3.8.10, which was backported from groovy
[15:50] <mythos> so i pulled the source and can't find that fix in the patch series nor a reference to that CVE
[15:51] <mythos> were those CVE fixes forgotten because of that backport?
[16:00] <ravage> the packges includes python3.8-3.8.10/debian/patches/CVE-2021-3177-3.8.patch
[16:00] <ravage> so you should be fine
[16:00] <loganrun> when I log back in after the screen saver has been on, my monitor settings are scrambled. I use NVIDIA-settings program to set up the monitor arrangement. But there is apparently now way to save the settings, you can only apply them
[16:02] <ravage> +++ python3.8-3.8.10/debian/patches/CVE-2021-29921.patch
[16:02] <mythos> ravage, ah, thx. will check again
[16:04] <mythos> ravage, how do you fetch the source? apt-get source python3.8?
[16:05] <loganrun> It is strange the Nvidia program wants to save an xorg.conf file, but it doesn't seem that Ubuntu uses it
[16:05] <ravage> mythos, yes. but the diff is here: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/546203028/python3.8_3.8.5-1~20.04.3_3.8.10-0ubuntu1~20.04.diff.gz
[16:10] <mythos> ravage, where is that diff referenced. i can't seem to find it. here for instance: https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/focal/python3.8
[16:10] <mythos> and doesn't apt-get source apply the current diff?
[16:11] <ravage> apt-get source Downloads. It does not apply anything
[16:11] <ravage> the diffs are linked on https://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/focal/main/security/python3.8 for example
[16:22] <arooni> are samba mounted drives like this: //192.168.1.1/NetworkDriveArooni /media/HardDriveArooni cifs guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8,dir_mode=0777,file_mode=0777,gid=1000,auto,_netdev,vers=1.0 0 0 ;; mounted as root?
[16:22] <arooni> i'm having trouble writing to it via transmissino
[16:26] <mythos> ravage, that patch you linked removes that patch: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/e9616336/
[16:27] <mythos> and i'm unable to fetch a focal python3.8 source with that patch
[16:28] <mythos> maybe you could show me the commands to get a full focal python3.8(.10) source? :)
[16:29] <mythos> I think, that CVE was fixed with 3.8.5 and was reintroduced with 3.8.10
[16:32] <oerheks> arooni, i would download locally, and move it to smb when done.
[16:44] <mythos> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/groovy/+source/python3.8/+bug/1928057 refers to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.8/3.8.10-0ubuntu1~20.04
[16:45] <arooni> the root cause is that ubuntu tries to create each new file as root
[16:45] <arooni> on the samba drive
[16:45] <mythos> where the source is avaiable at the bottom. it doesn't include CVE 2021 29921
[16:45] <arooni> even though uid and gid are set correctly
[16:46] <mythos> hirsute has it
[16:46] <oerheks> This bug was fixed in the package python3.8 - 3.8.10-0ubuntu1~20.04
[16:46] <oerheks> last comment
[16:47] <ezakimak> is there same way to configure dkms to use more than -j 2 when building kernel modules?
[16:47] <mythos> oerheks, could you give me a link to the source where that patch is either applied or a in a patch series?
[16:48] <ravage> i gave you the exact line in the diff
[16:49] <oerheks> https://ubuntu.com/security/CVE-2021-29921
[16:50] <oerheks> incl commit
[16:50] <mythos> ravage, i rechecked. that diff removes that CVE patch
[16:51] <mythos> oerheks, yes. but it referes to 3.8.5. which does have that patch
[16:51] <mythos> as far as i see 3.8.10 doesn't
[16:52] <oerheks> if you think and proof that it does not, file a bugreport
[16:57] <mythos> well, normally i would think, the proof is not on my side. fetching source and looking for a patch in a patch series or already applied, shouldn't be that hard
[16:58] <mythos> hirsute has it. easy to verify
[16:59] <oerheks> groovy is EOL, btw
[17:01] <mythos> oerheks, it's focal's python
[17:08] <ravage> i got the source too
[17:08] <ravage> the patch is missing
[17:08] <mythos> thx ravage
[17:10] <ravage> Lib/ipaddress.py is the file that has the actual leading zeroes patch
[17:10] <ravage> or.. should have
[17:11] <mythos> yes
[17:11] <mythos> it doesn't
[17:12] <ravage> maybe someone with experience to report regressions can file that bug at the right place
[17:12] <ravage> i have no idea if you would comment on the old bug or open a new one
[18:11] <Ali_nz> is there such a thing as a repair install in Ubuntu
[18:16] <Ali_nz> unless someone thinks they can fix my blackscreen no boot issue
[18:18] <alkisg> Well you can install on top of the old one and it'll keep /home
[18:18] <alkisg> but if you describe the issue, how it happened etc, maybe someone can help
[18:18] <minimec> Ali_nz: There is the possibility to boot the installer USB medium and use 'chroot' to execute tasks on the existing installation on the computer. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[18:19] <Ali_nz> Well I tried to boot the live CD, and all the options except something else said they would wipe the existing disk, there wasnt an option to install "over the top" so to speak where it would keep files
[18:20] <minimec> Ali_nz: You just use 'Try Ubuntu' and boot in to the graphical interface.
[18:21] <Ali_nz> the reason my install is borked is because I tried to install VMWare which needed me to follow these instructions to work with secure boot: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1096052/vmware-15-error-on-ubuntu-18-4-could-not-open-dev-vmmon-no-such-file-or-dire - i got to the reoboot step and got the blue screen and installed the key - but then it wont boot - black screen
[18:22] <Ali_nz> minimec: I dont want to try - I need reinstall
[18:23] <minimec> Ali_nz: In case you have a blackscreen on boot try to use the 'recovery mode' boot procedure 'Advanced options for Ubuntu'. Do you have an Nvidia GPU?
[18:24] <minimec> Ali_nz: 'chroot' mode would allow you to fix a broken system that is installed on your computer without overwriting it with a reinstallation.
[18:25] <Ali_nz> well I looked at journalctl and syslog
[18:25] <privato89> Hi guys
[18:25] <Ali_nz> I cant see anything obvious thats wrong
[18:25] <Ali_nz> minimec: no nvidia - its a HP Elitedesk Mini G3
[18:26] <Ali_nz> onboard graphics, prob intel
[18:29] <oerheks> Ali_nz, AFAIK you need vmware 16?
[18:30] <oerheks> seen lots of issues with 15, no clue how to fix them
[18:30] <Ali_nz> oerheks: I did have the latest and got the error at the top of the stack exchange thread, so I followed the instructions
[18:30] <minimec> Ali_nz: Ok. Indeed... Probably Intel internal GPU. I would try 'recovery mode', drop to a root shell and do things like "apt update" "apt full-upgrade" "sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop" as a start
[18:31] <Ali_nz> minimec: ok
[18:38] <Ali_nz> even when installing ubuntu fresh (after ticking the option for secure boot during install) it is going to blue screen during boot for mok management - what key do I press? (continue or add key?)
[18:39] <johnjay> you mean ubuntu crashes while it's printing out system messages?
[18:39] <minimec> Ali_nz: Unfortunately I cannot give you an answer here...
[18:40] <tomreyn> "blue screen" sounds like you'r eon another OS.
[18:40] <johnjay> mok says it's for secure boot. maybe check your efi vars and grub settings?
[18:41] <johnjay> wait by blue screen i think he means the mok screen
[18:41] <johnjay> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/SecureBoot/DKMS
[18:41] <Ali_nz> I will enroll it,
[18:41] <tomreyn> johnjay: oh, right, probably.
[18:41] <alkisg> Ali_nz: in some cases, failed "secure boot" dialogs result in half-updated initramfs. Try to temporarily disable secure-boot, then go to grub > advanced options > and select the previous kernel which will have a normally generated initramfs
[18:43] <johnjay> i've honestly never heard of mok before. is this a new thing in linux?
[18:43] <alkisg> It's a tool to manage secure boot keys (UEFI)
[18:44] <alkisg> It wasn't there back when BIOS dominated the world...
[18:44] <johnjay> i probably should learn more about that.
[18:44] <tomreyn> https://edk2-docs.gitbook.io/understanding-the-uefi-secure-boot-chain/additional_secure_boot_chain_implementations/machine_owner_key_mok
[18:44] <johnjay> i thought in linux it was just the efi boot manager and then grub
[18:44] <tomreyn> "machine owner key"
[18:45] <tomreyn> johnjay: that's what you have if you don't use "secure boot", yes
[18:45] <johnjay> i see
[21:43] <pippo> hi
[21:43] <privato89> Hi