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EickmeyerOvenWerks: We have a situation. Somehow our ISO size has exceeded the allowable 4.0GB and they're not building anymoree as of yesterday. What can wee eliminate?00:49
OvenWerksEickmeyer: how much larger? Are there any parts of kde iso we start from that can be dropped?14:50
OvenWerks(I think we include the whole libre office chunk)14:50
OvenWerksEickmeyer: do we ship more than one theme? I know we ship too many back drops.14:51
Eickmeyer[m]I already removed some stuff, including lmms for now. 14:51
Eickmeyer[m]We'll see what happens with today's build. Basically, we reached the hard technical limit of ISO9660.14:52
OvenWerksEickmeyer: if you have removed that, then lv1 packages can go too14:53
OvenWerks(ladspa) and probably vst2 packages14:53
OvenWerksEickmeyer: can we group these things into one meta that installer can readd?14:54
Eickmeyer[m]True, but I want to see how this build goes, which happens around 11am.14:55
Eickmeyer[m]Perhaps.14:55
OvenWerksThe one thing that ladspa has that can't be found anywhere else is the ambsonics plugins14:55
Eickmeyer[m]Something happened between the 26th and 27th that caused this. People I've talked to can't figure out what since we eliminated stuff prior.14:56
Eickmeyer[m]What's really killing us is the fonts.14:57
OvenWerksthe iso I have from 23rd is already border line, ls -lh shows 4.1G14:59
Eickmeyer[m]Yeah. 21.04 was 3.5, so something grew.15:00
OvenWerksplasma?15:00
OvenWerksArdour? :)15:00
Eickmeyer[m]Something. I'm honestly wondering if we should drop "publishing".15:01
Eickmeyer[m]That would take care 9f the fonts as well as other things.15:02
OvenWerksit would be nice to know how many people use these parts of things15:02
Eickmeyer[m]Specifically, on a live session.15:03
OvenWerksIn many ways, someone doing publishing may find studio is not the best tool15:04
Eickmeyer[m]Agreed.15:05
OvenWerksEickmeyer: making installer willing to source packages from a local partition to add in extra things would help.15:08
OvenWerksit would allow a full install off of a single USB stick off line15:08
Eickmeyer[m]Right, and that should be able to be done in theory.15:09
Eickmeyer[m]Or simply let installer handle things after the fact.15:09
OvenWerksSome people like to do their whole install off line15:10
OvenWerksor have no choice15:10
Eickmeyer[m]To be honest, though, I think we should drop publishing from our scope. It gets into a weird territory that people don't expect from us.15:11
Eickmeyer[m]Makes our scope a little too broad.15:11
OvenWerksI honestly can't really coment. Certainly graphics would be a part of pubishing but maybe not the reverse15:16
Eickmeyer[m]Nah, graphics is its own category. There is certainly some overlap, though.15:18
OvenWerksyes graphics is it's own catagory, but publishing would probably depend on it in most publishing workflows15:26
OvenWerksA novel would not (aside from cover art) but a brosure would15:27
EickmeyerThe publishing meta contains some graphics items as recommends (such as gimp), but the removal wouldn't affect the graphics meta since those same items are listed.15:47

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