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Mike31Hey all. I just installed Kubuntu and now I am stuck at the loading screen. It passes BIOS and I can enter BIOS, but the OS will not boot00:25
Mike31I am on 21.0400:26
IrcsomeBot<Mohamed Ikbel> Any error msg or just black screen??? (re @IrcsomeBot: <Mike31> I am on 21.04)00:53
Mike31no it just shows my ROG screen but nothing else01:00
Mike31I have a ROG motherboard01:02
IrcsomeBot<Mohamed Ikbel> Try an older version, the lts version, then upgrade it. I had a problem like that when i tried to istall the 21.04 version, so i installef the older vert, lts version, then i upgraded to the last version and it worked.01:09
IrcsomeBot<Mohamed Ikbel> If you try this tell me if it resolve your problem or not.01:09
IrcsomeBot<Mohamed Ikbel> Good luck :)01:09
Mike31thanks ill give it a try01:11
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lordievaderGood morning06:16
sacardehi07:58
sacardeI search a package like audio-recorder for kubuntu07:58
sacardewhat do you suggest me?07:58
tomreynsacarde: a web search for "record audio kde" returns "kwave" as the first result09:03
IrcsomeBot<Elchin> oexv (re @join_captcha_bot: )09:49
IrcsomeBot<Halis> B09:49
IrcsomeBot<Elchin> I97k09:50
IrcsomeBot<Elchin> 😐 (re @join_captcha_bot: That is not the correct code. Try again...)09:50
IrcsomeBot<Elchin> hello (re @IrcsomeBot: <tomreyn> sacarde: a web search for "record audio kde" returns "kwave" as the first result)09:50
IrcsomeBot<Elchin> i`m simple man (re @join_captcha_bot: That is not the correct code. Try again...)09:50
IrcsomeBot<Elchin> do you know kubuntu sytem requirements (re @IrcsomeBot: <tomreyn> sacarde: a web search for "record audio kde" returns "kwave" as the first result)09:51
IrcsomeBot<Elchin> can i intsall kubuntu on 2gb ram and intel inside laptop09:51
IrcsomeBot<Elchin> can i install kubuntu on 2gb ram and intel inside laptop09:52
archetechyes but may not run great   deps on the cpu/gpu09:53
IrcsomeBot<Halis> H2lD09:54
IrcsomeBot<Halis> Or H2ID09:54
IrcsomeBot<Halis> Captcha Bot seems broken09:55
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> /difficulty 210:17
IrcsomeBot<blinkengine> 😂😂 (re @Halis: Captcha Bot seems broken)10:42
ErmineHello, I've got a BUG with nvidia propietary driver while attempting to suspend computer: https://pastesite.org/view/1312eb6010:51
MekaneckErmine: if you found a bug please report it on Launchpad11:28
ErmineMekaneck: Is 'nvidia-drivers-ubuntu' a correct place for this bug?11:59
tomreynElchin: you'll want a minimum of 4 GB RAM with Kubuntu, I'd say. I do not know what the official system requirements are, but a web search will probably tell you.12:09
BluesKajHi all12:45
IrcsomeBot<Halis> Hi BlusKaj12:55
BluesKaj@Halis, hi12:56
IrcsomeBot<Halis> How it's going?13:22
BluesKajok here, and you?13:37
IrcsomeBot<Halis> İ am also ok 🙃13:41
IrcsomeBot<Halis> Does anyone know if plasma-workspace-wayland is ready for productive usage? (re @IrcsomeBot: <mparillo> You can install Wayland. Somebody will correct me, but I think if you install plasma-workspace-wayland and reboot, SDDM will automagically show you a wayland option)13:43
BluesKajmparillo, is quite knowledgable so if you're adventurous you can try suggestion...personally I haven't bothered with wayland yet.13:52
BluesKajhis suggestion that is13:53
IrcsomeBot<Halis> İ recently got informed that every running process in X11 desktop can read your keystrokes and that it is very insecure. This is why İ am asking14:05
BluesKajnever heard that before14:09
smr1b_hola14:37
smr1b_hola14:39
smr1bHola?14:39
smr1b_siis14:39
smr1bTe han pillado hablando?14:40
smr1b_maaburrooo14:40
smr1b_noo?14:40
smr1b_noo14:40
smr1bdigo jugando14:40
smr1b_creo k no14:40
smr1bAlmenos el ha dicho de quienes sospecha y no ha sido de ninguno de nosotros14:40
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adriiangj014eso e vrda menos mal el k estaba juango 100% era el k jugo con nosotros al 1v114:41
smr1bya ves menos mal14:43
BluesKaj!es14:43
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.14:43
smr1bPorque cuando te pillan una vez la has cagado14:44
adriiangj014po si ya te tiwnwn fichao poer vaya menos mal y sienpre estoy jugando yo14:44
smr1bSi14:44
smr1buna vez te pillen la has cagado porque siempre estan pendientes de ti14:45
BluesKaj!ops14:46
adriiangj014la vrda pero nose como no m a pillao alomejorha sio pork no ha entrado del todo14:46
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smr1b__manueh14:47
adriiangj014la manita relaa manue14:48
BluesKajthanks RikMills :-)14:53
IrcsomeBot<Halis> @BluesKaj https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/4641/why-are-people-saying-that-the-x-window-system-is-not-secure/464614:55
IrcsomeBot<Halis> Or here (since a forum is not really a good source):14:59
IrcsomeBot<Halis> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_(display_server_protocol)#Differences_between_Wayland_and_X14:59
IrcsomeBot<Halis> İn short (copy and paste):15:01
IrcsomeBot<Halis> X11 is not secure and has severe conceptual issues like15:01
IrcsomeBot<Halis> any client connected to the X server (either remote or local) can read all input events15:01
IrcsomeBot<Halis> any client can get information about when another window rendered and get the content of the window15:01
IrcsomeBot<Halis> any client can change any X attribute of any other window15:01
IrcsomeBot<Halis> any window can position itself15:01
IrcsomeBot<Halis> many more issues15:01
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hasanhi16:17
IrcsomeBot<Halis> Hi hasan16:45
brian_hello, i have been looking around to try and figure out how to remove old kernels and they all seem to claim to do apt-get remove linux-image-???  but my problem is that when i run this command it seems to want to install another kernel in its place at the same version number.17:23
brian_also the links used for initrd.img, vmlinuz now seem to point to this old kernel and not the one that is currently printed out via uname -r17:25
brian_i have not rebooted yet. lol17:25
IrcsomeBot_<Halis> Does not "sudo apt autoremove" remove it automatically?17:25
brian_no it just says there is `0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.`17:25
IrcsomeBot_<Halis> Hmm, İ do not know then17:26
brian_i can go into the /boot dir and start `rm -f` things, but that does not seem like the correct way17:26
IrcsomeBot_<Halis> What OS version are you using?17:28
tomreynnc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version_signature,cmdline};echo "Session: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";echo Shell: $SHELL)17:29
tomreynthis would tell17:29
brian_https://termbin.com/3sxz17:30
tomreynand what's in /boot now?    ls -l /boot | nc termbin.com 999917:31
tomreynand which kernels are installed?    apt list --installed linux-* | nc termbin.com 999917:32
brian_vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-5.11.0-17-generic    << after I ran sudo apt-get remove linux-image-unsigned-5.11.0-17-generic  im seeing this17:33
brian_let me get that list. thanks17:33
brian_https://termbin.com/ym9a17:33
tomreyni did not exactly understand your answer to the question of what's in /boot now17:35
brian_whats in boot now:  https://termbin.com/cs06617:35
tomreynaccording to apt, linux images and initrds for kernels 5.11.0-17 5.11.0-34 5.11.0-36 5.11.0-37 should be in /boot now17:36
tomreynand that's the case, plus some others17:36
tomreynist is unusual that the vmlinuz symbolic linki points to the current kernel image when you have never ones installed, though17:37
brian_the initrd.img and vmlinuz links now seem to point to an older kernel17:37
tomreynyou have linux-generic and linux-image-generic installed. my understanding is that those should cause the symlink to be updated to point to the latest kernel image as soon as new ones are installed and an initrd is produced for them17:40
brian_when i try to remove an older one, apt-get is showing this: https://termbin.com/h6gz17:40
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tomreynbrian_: is "secure boot" enabled for this system?17:45
tomreynsudo mokutil --sb-state​17:45
alkisgI think that happens when you install an older kernel (after a newer one)17:45
brian_secure boot is disabled Platform is in Setup Mode17:46
tomreynvmlinuz.old vs vmlinuz seems to suggest that this has been done17:46
alkisgDon't remove just one -17 package, remove all -17 packages17:47
alkisgOtherwise the metapackage pulls the alternative, like you see17:47
brian_i think the older kernel is getting installed when i tried to remove the older kernel.  shown in https://termbin.com/h6gz17:47
alkisgE.g. apt purge linux-headers-5.11.0-17-generic linux-headers-5.11.0-17 linux-image-5.11.0-17-generic linux-modules-5.11.0-17-generic linux-modules-extra-5.11.0-17-generic17:48
alkisgAll the -17- ones in the same line17:48
tomreynthat's the running kernel, though17:48
brian_oh.. let me try that.17:48
brian_uname -a is returning Linux Gemini 5.11.0-37-generic #41-Ubuntu SMP Mon Sep 20 16:39:20 UTC 2021 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux17:49
tomreynoops sorry17:49
tomreynthen its fine17:49
tomreynyes, right https://termbin.com/3sxz17:50
brian_even though the symlinks are now pointing to an older kernel, that i am now going to try to remove?17:50
tomreynthat should cuase the symlinks to get updated as well17:50
tomreyn*cause17:50
tomreynhopefully to the latest kernel image + initrd17:50
brian_@alkisg, as you mentioned to try to remove multiple kernels on one line..  I only have one kernel installe that is a -17?17:52
brian_https://termbin.com/9gbg917:52
brian_but i think its working. :-)17:54
brian_ok, so rather than just removing the kernel, i also have to remove the linux-headers and linux modules and modules-extra17:55
brian_i didnt know that17:55
alkisgbrian_: did you try the command I sent you? sudo apt purge linux-headers-5.11.0-17-generic linux-headers-5.11.0-17 linux-image-5.11.0-17-generic linux-modules-5.11.0-17-generic linux-modules-extra-5.11.0-17-generic17:57
brian_yes that worked.17:57
brian_i am now trying to make the same thing work for the others.17:58
brian_that didnt quite work for the other kernels.  sudo apt purge linux-headers-unsigned-5.11.0-18-generic linux-headers-unsigned-5.11.0-18 linux-image-unsigned-5.11.0-18-generic linux-modules-unsigned-5.11.0-18-generic linux-modules-extra--5.11.0-18-generic18:01
brian_when purging, does every kernel need to also have the headers and modules-extra also removed?18:02
alkisgbrian_: can you paste the command that I wrote? :)18:05
alkisgIt's not just the kernel, it's also the modules and the extra-modules18:05
alkisgThese depend on each other and need to be removed at the same time18:05
alkisgOtherwise an "alternative" is found, which is signed vs unsigned etc, and you see the ping pong you're seeing18:05
brian_the command you wrote for me, i was able to paste into the terminal and it fully worked.18:06
tomreynapt accepts wildcards (and so does apt-get). i think you could just    sudo apt --purge autoremove    now that the symlinks are fine, though18:06
brian_i have other kernels i am also trying to get rid of18:06
alkisgI.e. from that list: https://termbin.com/ym9a18:06
alkisgyou need to remove all the packages that have -17- at the same time18:06
alkisgRight18:06
alkisgapt show linux-modules-extra-5.11.0-37-generic | grep Depends18:07
alkisgDepends: linux-image-5.11.0-37-generic | linux-image-unsigned-5.11.0-37-generic18:07
alkisgThis means that when you remove linux-image-5.11.0-37-generic, to be able to keep the modules installed, the unsigned one is installed too, to satisfy the dependency18:07
brian_in my case the -37 is the one i am wanting to keep i think?18:08
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alkisgWhy, what was the output?18:13
alkisgThe headers can be kept. The modules and extra modules need to be removed. But why not remove all of them?18:14
brian_isnt -37 the one i am currently running:   https://termbin.com/3sxz18:15
alkisgdpkg -l | awk '/linux-.5.11.0-18./ { print $2 }'18:16
alkisgThis will show you the packages with -18; put them in an apt purge18:16
alkisgUsually the two latest kernels are kept18:17
Guest85So I'm on 21.10 Beta w/ the 5.22.90  Plasma backport PPA and I'm encountering an issue where setting my display to 144Hz resets back to 60Hz after a restart/logout18:17
Guest85Using Plasma-Wayland18:17
alkisgAnd the third one gets automatically removed by apt when a new one arrives and you run autoremove18:18
Guest85Anyone has encountered this issue?18:18
alkisgBut if you don't run autoremove for ages, then it ...forgets them and they don't get autoremoved anymore :D18:18
IrcsomeBot_<Halis> Except that issue, does it work? (re @IrcsomeBot: <Guest85> So I'm on 21.10 Beta w/ the 5.22.90  Plasma backport PPA and I'm encountering an issue where setting my display to 144Hz resets back to 60Hz after a restart/logout)18:20
brian_alkisg, i think that awk regex is not working for me.  i know i have some -18's in the list but that command, as you gave it is not returning any values.18:26
tomreyni suspect alkisg meant to write:    dpkg -l | awk '/linux-.*-5\.11\.0-18\./ { print $2 }'18:28
brian_ahh.. dpkg -l | awk '/linux-.*-5\.11\.0-18\.*/ { print $2 }'18:30
brian_i was also missing a * after the 18..   you guys are awesome for offering help, thank you both18:30
alkisgI'm not sure if matrix mangles some stuff18:32
alkisgAs * are considered "italic text" etc, it supports markdown...18:32
alkisgDot matches any character, so it'll match a dot, although sure a backslack makes it more restrictive18:32
brian_i thought the . meant any character and * meant any number of characters?18:32
alkisg*backslash18:33
alkisgzero or more times of the previous character or characters if parenthesis are used18:35
brian_Thank you both for helping me with that issues.. I had 32mb left on my /boot partition and things were probably going to be bad for me had i not fixed it.19:09
brian_another side question if i may.  I used to have chrome be able to hardware decode vp 9, like maybe a month or 2 ago and it seemed to just stop working now.  I noticed this because i play Stadia on my kubuntu system using google chrome.19:11
brian_i had to move to 21.04 because the previous LTS didnt have the support at the time for the new amd 6800xt and 21.04 worked out of the box after install.19:13
genii!info libvpx5 hirsute19:16
ubottuPackage libvpx5 does not exist in hirsute19:16
geniiHm19:16
genii!info vpx-tools hirsute19:16
ubottuvpx-tools (1.9.0-1, hirsute): VP8 and VP9 video codec encoding/decoding tools. In component universe, is optional. Built by libvpx. Size 239 kB / 1,282 kB19:16
geniibrian_: Might want to try that package19:17
genii!info libvpx hirsute19:18
ubottuPackage libvpx does not exist in hirsute19:18
geniiAh, it's at 6 now19:19
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